No, i don't want to watch phase or indies.
could people at least agree that ex-holos aren't really treated as indies?
>>107384176I don't watch Vtubers at all, Smiling Friends is pretty good though.
They really have Cover employees patrolling here 24/7, don’t they? No different from the systematic brainwashing of Reddit
>>107384176Based
>>107384218It's funny how holoantis think that exholos would doom hololive. While in reality, exholo only doom indies and other vtubers corps, because they now need to compete with exholos for vtuberfags who didn't want to watch hololive.
>>107384546This, if hololive explodes tomorrow, then the majority of holofags will either move to their reincarnations or stop watching vtubers.
>>107384546No, hiring more shit like Advent and Justice is what's gonna doom hololive.
>>107384218They are by definition indie. Idk why you retards keep sperging about them being called indie when that is LITERALLY what they are, independent vtubers, as in not corpo vtubers. Stop being retarded
>>107384176based
>>107384176And the holochad marches on.
>>107384176Nobody's forcing you to.
>>107385748so indie category is basically that cucked husband who takes his wife back after they have been fucked by another guy. Interesting
>>107384176BASED!
>>107385408Go fuck yourself cuck.
Up to you. There are gems out there, but you'd never know. Probably for the best.
>>107387439If they're gems. They would try hololive audition and pass it
>>107384176Based Nijisanji watcher
>>107384218No, not saba or nimi
>>107384218They are indies when they go against HololiveThey aren’t indies when you compare actual indies to themIt’s that simple
>>107387439>probably for the bestIf they were really good, you would name them instead of pretending to have le sekrit knowledge. What, you're afraid she's not going to pay attention to you anymore after she grows out of being a 2view and no longer needs your donations just to keep going?
>>107384176Theres barely any difference. You people pretend like Holo is this gold standard of entertainment but its nothing but safe-horny baiting, NPC style zatsudans and FOTM garbage gaming.Phase is the same 90% of the time. The remaining 10% is some /pol/ related faggotry.
>>107389924I think you are missing some content there
>>107384176normal mindset if you aren't a shitskin cuckold T B Q H W Y F A M
>>107384176you are missing out on so many loli cunnies
>>107384176BasedStill not watching Saba
>>107385408Ina is the only alive pre-Advent talent that is not significantly worse than anyone in Advent/Justice. If people like Kiara or Bae began their Holo career in 2025, they'd fare as well as Holostars EN
>>107389242>>107389747>Nothing but logical fallacies and accusations to cope with the deep seated realization they are missing out by keeping themselves in their garden containment.Again it's for the best.
>>107384176>biboowhat's the point when your censored "loli" can't even say loli?
>>107394810why should a loli say loli? what difference does it make?
>>107394810>censoredI thought kanicucks preferred the term redesigned
>>107394830how else can she talk about herself or her interests, or otaku culture related to itare you just gonna tiptoe around it like a beta?
>>107394830>>107394902>Censorlive defense forceRoruRumao
>>107384176I dunno why you're still staying in Holo for someone like biboo. She doesn't even consider herself cunny or likes cunny.
>>107384176well youre sleepin on the gold standard for indies and missing out on cinema
Nu-Cover can't help but lick the boots of blackrock with all the mess and censorship going onNo hags in swimsuits and no cunny is unironically a Nu-Cover issue
>>107384176why did you post half JP streamer? EN watchers on suicide watch.
>>107394810>censoredYou mean the thing Saba did to her model?Meanwhile pebbles get Biboo's lolicon pandering audio during the Rust collabs.
>>107384176yeah i get it,i dont want to watch hololive/nijisanji
>>107395110im not even an avid saba watcher, but saba talked about lolis and even recently liked lewd lolis AS saba herself, pic relatedmeanwhile when was the last time any EN holo member did that? like 4 years ago? when gura wasn't fighting for her life against the management to play games and release her daki?>pic related
>>107395110>pebbles get Biboo's lolicon pandering audioalso did she call herself loli or even mesugaki or even anywhere close to pander to lolicons? what lolicon pandering audio? does she even consider herself loli, or is that what you try to cope or think as truth?
>>107395211Sabakeks really are fed by twitter likes
>>107395081retard
>>107395258answer the question then, why do you keep falsely advertising her as a lolicon or loli, when it looks like she may not even consider herself as one as some anon pointed out? there are a lot of fish in the sea, pun intended, and it's not only about saba
>>107395286Cope
>>107395347it's ok, you can admit you don't watch hololive, no need to hide behind blackrock
>>107395312I'm nta, was just passing by and stumbled upon some amusing remark
>>107395250Lmao the chumbud got triggered by the truthNext he's going to try and say Saba's totally just on a super secret vacation.
>>107395403it's ok, you are excused, i just don't like that other hypocrite who tries to attack saba while biboo is in a worse position than her
>>107395421are you sure you're not projecting? it feels like you're the one here triggered by the truth that biboo is either censored by cover or biboo has no interest in lolis at all nor considers herself as onei haven't seen any proof disproving this otherwise
>>107395250>old modelIronic image
>>107395474Why would you? You're a chumbud, you don't watch hololive and never did. Remain ignorant while your oshi is on "vacation"
>>107384176I have to watch indies because there are ZERO (0) GFE vtubers in Hololive
>>107395516>lamy>okayuHuh?
>>107395512if i don't watch hololive then how could i possibly talk about hololive and know about hololive talents?why lie about me and why keep up this lie in the first place about biboo? it's just weird man
>>107384176>i don't want to watch phaseCongratulations, you don't have a cuckold fetish like half /vt/
>>107395546>how could i possibly talk about hololive and know about hololive talents?You can't. Go back to your general.
>>107395559>your generalthere is no general, answer the question first
>>107395546For some weird reason, I'm inclined to believe you are samefagging, anon. Why are you arguing with yourself?
>>107395550Why leave out the indie avengers when they all turned out to not be unicorn friendly?
>>107395571it's just a simple question, when did biboo ever show interest in lolis, lolicons or ever referenced anything related to it such as uoh?to me it feels like the management hates lolis, but the fans want a loli so bad they would keep up the facade that biboo is a loli lolicon
biboo suckssaba sucksenna is the best
>>107395635Exquisite taste, real children lover
>>107395550retard logicbut JP is the exception to my rule>rules for thee but not for me
>>107395625>the management hates lolisThe management is unironically BlackrockSpeaks for itself why they hate cunny and anything sexy like swimsuits
>>107395678Did blackrock make Saba censor her model too?
>>107395714Saba prefers hebes
>>107384176thas ok
>>107395678once again, you are retarded and you clearly don't watch hololive
>>107395211The JP sometimes do.
>>107395764I've found love with indie hags, I don't watch Hololive any moreHave fun with your dogshit censorship
>>107395794>I've found love with indie hags, I don't watch Hololive any moreI'm happy for you, but that doesn't mean you have to spout very obvious lies
>>107395820>liesweren't you the one lying about biboo showing interest in being a lolicon or a loli?
>>107395856believe it or not, I didn't mention biboo in any of my posts, I just wanted to reply to the blackrock retard
>>107395908ok, my bad then, i thought you were the one hypocritically attacking saba while telling lies about biboo
>107395908Nigga why do you get so triggered when someone mentions how buttfucked cover is thanks to blackrock lmfao
People are having a bad time since their oshi's may had graduatedPrease andastan
>>107384226this is somehow even worse also why are you even here
>Censorlive shill thread
>he's too much of a pussy to reply because he knows he'll be btfoalright I'll spoonfeed you retard, off the top of my head: Subaru ass sumo, Pekora melon streams, Advent anniversary + hot limit cover art, half of holo summer art, Iroha+Azki karaoke, Akiroze + Choco radio stream from a few days agobonus:that segment in Raora's 3d debut with Neriass and Moona now go on, tell me how those don't count
>>107396116Notice how Biboo is excluded and discriminated from any of those, yet her fans still have the gall to be the ultracuck for cover lmfaoDo we need to remind you that incident when bibbo censored by the management?>>104000252 >>104000158 >>104025066
>>107396225you are too dumb to even read
>>107396225i know you're a newfag that doesn't watch Hololive, but that always happens because she's a loli, which disproves the other anon's claims that she weren't
>>107396305>>107396320>Censorlive defense force out in full forceKEKAROOOO
>>107396110>it's okay when saba does it
>>107396347why are you doubling down on your retardation? did you check any of the streams I mentioned, I recommend the advent anniversary streamyou are a fucking lobotomite
>>107396380>Doesn't disprove the fact that Bibbo is discriminated and censoredUh oh censorlive shill melty
>>107396374Saba panders to lolicons while biboo does not but her fans pretend that she is a loli as some sort of a cope against the management
>>107396508explain why the management keeps censoring her then if she's not a loli?
God loli biboohttps://youtu.be/xfcnyV_CTx8?t=373
>>107396508>Saba panders to lolicons by censoring her loli model
>>107396400for your sake I hope you are trolling, but I'm convinced you do not particularly care about Biboo or Sabashe's dancing in bikini in their anniversary live, you'd know that if you'd took 2 mins to checknot sure what you mean by discrimination, she had multiple JPs in her 3D live and was invited to Lamy's stamina challenge stream too
>>107396374>>107396508>>107396594Lolis come in all sorts of sizes. Saba likes lewd loli art, presents herself as a loli, and encourages all and every lolicon reference including naming her fanbase KanikiDid Biboo do an uoh art stream like Gura did? Did biboo show herself naked in a video like Gura did a long while back?
>>107384176Hololive always wins.
>>107396669>Lolis come in all sorts of sizesYeah and if they're too small Saba won't approve, what a """based""" lolicon she is
>>107396669>>107396663Nigga stop replying to yourself and bumping your shitty thread
>>107384176Just buy the coffee and stop pissing & moaning
You know who actually has loli models even younger than Saba's old model? Hololive (Moona and Kaela)
>>107396716>noooo she's 2cm taller than before therefore she's not a loli anymore!!retard
very sweaty thread here lads
>>107396718>"noooo stop btfoing me"I don't care about the loli or not loli argument I'm just showing you how retarded you are when claiming cover is censored by blackrock of all thingsalso you are too dumb to notice that I haven't bumped it a single time
>>107396756And why did she make her model older?And why did she remove the crayon drawing from her OP?What's the reason anon?Now it's your turn to answer the question.
>>107396789People here are correct, when was the last time Biboo addressed herself as a loli or acknowledged lolicon culture if at all? She is indeed being censored. Not even JP could talk about them like they used to before.
>>107384176I'm thinking Based
>>107396871biboo is allowed to make a pedophile reference (pebblephile), but she is not allowed to make a lolicon reference because blackrock prefers real kids
>>107396794we're still waiting on that biboo daki that will never come out anon
>>107396917>b-but what about biboo!
>>107396934unironic cope
>>107396943Yes, that's what your post is, since it fails to address the fact that Saba censored her design, since you can't explain it without acknowledging how it shatters your world view
>>107396789Also, I never claimed she was censored by blackrock, that was someone elses' bit, and you're mistaking someone else for me and mistaking me for someone else. I'm merely talking about Saba and Biboo's interests. It doesn't matter whether or not she's censored.
>>107396871>Not even JP could talk about them like they used to before.Literally 7 months ago https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpCYGbaMl-g&t=178sAre you retarded?
>>107396994Why are you pretending to be me? Yes the first sentence is correct, but I don't agree that it doesn't matter whether or not she's censoredShe could either be censored or have no interest in lolis, and the distinction matters a lot
>>107396544>this is what holofans get>meanwhile chumbuds get to watch nothing but saba liking fanart on twitter while censoring her modelYeah I'm thinking biboo wins this one.
>>107397024There are multiple posters here pretending to be me and trollingJesas christ
>>107396871it's a bit ironic how the reply chain ended up like this considering my first reply was to the guy complaining about no hags in swimsuitsI admit I don't follow biboo that closely and I'm not laser focused on them mentioning loli stuff, you might have a point about them being told to tone it down, still, they are allowed to dance in swimsuits and have some pretty risque thumbnails if laplus is anything to go by
>>107397024Yeah and? That doesn't disprove the fact that they couldn't talk about lolis like they did before.
>>107384176thank god
>>107397024>could only reference lolis like it's part of shig ui's songholy grimis this the current state of hololive nowadays? indies often talk about how they love multilating lolis and buying loli doujins all the time
>>107397105My argument was that it wasn't only Biboo being censored about lolis, but Hololive in its entirety, someone affirmed it was Blackrock's fault, but another person was arguing before and after I posted that it was only Biboo who was being censored, and then another anon was arguing that Biboo isn't a lolicon, someone else was saying she isn't a loli, and another anon was arguing that it was only Biboo who couldn't talk about lolis. It could be very confusing when different people are trying to argue at the same time.
>>107396544>>107397024>unironic safehorny censored slopinto the trash it goes
>they have to censor words nowGrim.
>>107397663But enough about saba
>>107384176>phase and indiespro lolicon - talks about lolis all day, lewds lolis all night>covermcdonalds tier normie dogshitwhy are you even wasting your time pebblephile?
>>107397869>sabaCensored her loli model>hololiveNo evidence at all of loli censorship
This thread feels like a hololive vs. everyone proxy war where people don't really care about lolis or content, rather they just want to one up each another pretending to be lolicons
>>107397908>Censored her loli modelno evidence of censorship>hololivefbi no lewd lolis xDDDD
>>107397955Oh I see, now we're just completely making shit up huhInteresting how holo ID has THREE toddler models, including one very recent one, that have never once been censored though
>>107397914So what? It doesn't matter if people arguing aren't lolicons, it's still a valid criticism that their beloved lolis are being censored, and yet they have the gall to attack everyone else
>>107397991Saba is the only vtuber in this entire thread that has any proof or evidence whatsoever of loli censorship lmao
>>107397987>>107398018uh huh keep telling yourself that while laughing like a manchild at the overused fbi meme, because that's what hololive degraded into unlike back then when they openly talked about their loli preferences
>>107398045Clip of hololive members using this meme?
>>107397914It's two holofans against a sababud and a blackrock schizo in a campfire story situation where they run around a tiny room to occupy each corner not knowing there's someone joining the game
>>107398045FBI is literally a pro-lolicon meme that predates uoh and ToT>but it's overused!So is uoh and ToT>but it's western men's spammed by normies!So is uoh and ToT, and you're a normalFAGGOT for using the term normie
>>107398062>retard feigning ignorance at the countless of the subaru police cringe
>>107385748you do know what they mean, don't be disingenuous.
>>107398062Watch streams holofaggot
>>107398175Take a second to learn proper English and then go ahead and post one of these clips since there are apparently a countless amount. Except you won't because they don't exist.
>>107398216>got btfo and coping this hardwatch streams holotard
>>107398244Can't get btfo by something you can't post, seeing as it doesn't exist.
>>107398268>pretends it doesn't existso all holotards can do is to play dumb these days huh
>>107398283If it exists then why can't you post it? I can't pretend it doesn't exist then, can I?
>>107398307>retard begging to be spoonfed instead of looking up subaru loli police on youtubepathetic, and a new low for holotards
>>107398326>go search for this thing i made up and doesn't existNo, retard.
>>107398175Subaru Police is generally not the same.
>>107398349not spoonfeeding a retard, keep pretending it doesn't exist just like all the problems at hololive lmfao
>>107398365Learn what spoonfeeding means newfaggot
>>107398362it's the same old fbi skit every time some holomem says they like lolis, the most egregious part is that no holoen could talk about this at all due to being censored
>>107398425>talk about thistalk about liking lolis*unlike their JP counterpart, which are all met with the JP equivalent of fbi memes, very sad state of affairs
>>107398157>FBI is literally a pro-lolicon memeNah. That shit caused more damage to the anime community more than the loli community while also making lolicons look bad. Anyone who uses an FBI meme deserves to be beheaded, curbstomped and killed in the most painful ways possible.
>>107398604That's only because you're looking at it in hindsight. Getting spammed incessantly to the point of being cancer is the fate of all memes. Ugh and ToT were no different. And no one really uses the FBI meme anymore.
>>107398667There are some retarded 3rd worlders that won't let go of it but it's good that it's dead. The FBI meme unironically proliferated a lot of the fictional characters = real kids bullshit, even when it's not talking about lolis at all, that made it hard to enjoy any western anime community.
>>107398667WrongUoh and tot were positive affirmations, meanwhile fbi memes only started negative discourse and encouraged harrassment of artists and japanese people
>>107398667>>107398157retard
>>107398965Im not interested in what newfags have to say, sorry.
>>107399044Kill yourself then
>>107399029retard
>>107399084>pedophile wants to conflate lolis with real kids so bad he needs the FBI meme to do itit's good it's dead, just like you'll be when people find out where your predator ass lives
>>107399106Oh I didn't actually mean it the first time I was just shitposting, but now I really mean it:retard
>>107399134>i-i was only pretending to be retardedeven worse, kill yoursel retard
>>107399157retard
>>107399169>ped groomer meltykill an fbi meme poster and you kill a child predator in one go
>>107399106>>107399134>>107399169>>107399201I guess now you're seeing a glimpse of what the FBI meme posting devolves intoIt brings about real world problems into anime just like how identity politics affected vtubingLiteral dogshit discourse like these that only ends up hurting artists, innocent fans, and Japanese people
I watch Biboo, Henya and now Nitya. No I don't want to be a tribalfag. Tried getting into holo, and other corpos but the other talents aren't for me. Then there's the indie scene that has too much drama and reincarnation baggage, that I just want nothing to do with it.
>>107398425oh, I thought you meant the actual Oozora Police streams.
>>107384176Ok, That was always an option.>>107384226Most nuanced opinion on /vt/>>107396669The fanbase naming stream was pretty cringe. You just knew, and so did she, that the cunny ref was going to win the moment she put it on the poll.>>107399677Second most nuanced opinion.
>>107385748it's because Saba, Nimi, and Dooby (and let's throw Doki in there, too) would not have as many viewers if they hadn't been in Hololive first, and indies who have not been in Hololive are not in the same position.
>>107384218>>107385748they are technically indies in the same way that cdpr or larian are independent developers but no one would nominate bg3 or cyberpunk for indie game of the year. calling them ex-holo/corpo is much more accurate.
>>107384176You don't have to, but would you say the same in reverse? I don't have to watch Holo, right?
>>107384176There are a lot of cute and lewd indies
>>107384176Same>No, i don't want to watch holo or indies.
When will you retards learn that all women are the same
>>107385408giga based
>>107389242no one wants to join your shitass black companyhololive notoriously steals info from new applicants anyhow, it is the epitome of a heartless and soulless company
