Anything new in the discord(s) or anywhere else?

>>107409224
She caught the clap in Japan

>>107409272
You mean she got sick, right? I hope she gets better soon
Whenever one affirms that a trip is a bad idea for her, it will always be true. Maybe not for the reasons given, but it will never be a good idea to leave her house (without me, i mean)

>>107409224
nope nothing qwerty

>>107409385
Alright, just thought I'd ask since there hasn't been a thread for a bit
Thanks

>>107409224
She is talking in Nina's server instead of her own.

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Good evening Shondophrenics :D

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>>107409625
good evening sam

>>107409625
Good evening

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>>107409188
tuffy caught the groomeranti's red handed in their act after they slipped up bad enough to where it was undeniable so they didn't want to bake the thread like they usually do

lol irl @ them doing the same exact act by baiting with the rrat that i'm the one who bakes them
>inb4 heh you just set this up
i mean go ahead and start the loop and prove me right about you if you want but you're retarded because you're not gonna convince the people you need to cause they know better ;p

kinda weird all the coinky dinks lining up though desu i wonder what's got the usual suspects /here/ acting up

also bonus points for them not realizing that by not baking after getting caught and beat to death by tuffy they just incriminated themselves on yet more disingenuous and dishonest behavior trying to frame him for the antiing that THEY do kek

they've been here since the fleece era at least btw

they've been obsessed with tuffy since then too btw

i'm sure it's just tourists and no name antis though, surely there's nobody who has the motive and has gotten caught engaging in similar or the same behavior literally in regards to tuffy and admitted it ocassionally (to minimize and avoid consequences when held accountable for it)

just some stuff to think about over the night, i don't like looping on this much either but it's important since they're fucking up so bad recently (because they're seething cause they probably realized a few things ;) )

tl;dr: i have just finished cumming inside of fallen shondo and burying my face in her nubile schizo pussy zone (bony (hot))

>>107409224
shondo was arrested for sexually molesting nina while in the subway

>>107410327
>>107398457

Everywhere she goes, she causes trouble.

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>>107410327
get ready for the next 5 hours of damage control btw now that the thread is baked and they gotta get back to it again (kek they were actually pwned so hard they gave up)

>>107410441
>dragging up old shit with no context
>acting like it hasn't been addressed and is le epic own (asserting and bluffing)
yep, you're pissed, keep proving me right. you need to get a new script if you actually want to get away with your manipulation now

>>107398036
hmm i wonder who made this post before that though, since if that post WAS tuffy he wasn't even the one to bring it up and was responding to this weirdo and shutting his bitch shit down kek

>>107410327
Didn't read
You're banned cuck c:

>>107410539
>>107398457

>>107410539
>"old shit" is a few hours ago
lol irl mad you got owned

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>>107410544
ur still banned from her dms tho
>>107410539
also just want to emphasize that this is literally the same exact behavior as usual kek it's kinda crazy how they're so keen on proving him right that it's just the same few pathetic manchildren obsessed with tuffy and weirdly disingenuous and seem to be around antiing shondo and getting pissed when he shuts their manipulation down
>>107410603
no you got owned that's why you have to bluff like that didn't get addressed 4 times over in the last thread, again, kind of a weird coincidence you got so pissed thinking tuffy posted that in reply to this guy first >>107398036

>>107410683
>you
not the same anon, sorry!

>>107410683
>>107398457

>tubby is STILL seething at getting caught antiing shondo
lol irl honestly, the manchild is seething

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anyway yeah like i said, groomeranti squad gonna be running damage control all night so have fun with that i think this is a good place to leave it off frfr rather than water down the significance beating their ass in at every new goalpost or groomstrat
it's bed time for me anyway

victorious lion sleeps with his lioness after winning the entire plains
>>107410768
i think your script broke groomerchama might wanna work on getting that fixed instead tonight
>>107410740
you're just as much of a woman tho lol irl, shondo's a lez but she's into those little girls (based) with DFC like nina so nice try but you're just a manchild from this female energy you're giving off desu

tl;dr she gleep on my glorp till i hear voices in the void type shit

>>107410844
White Knights dont exist in his mind and he thinks he is one. absolutely delulu

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>>107410856
>>107398457

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>>107410856
shondo is not a lesbian, he is a trans man in denial

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>>107410683
this just sad and pathetic of you how are you not tired lil gup

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>>107410904
>groomeranti's already culled themselves from ever ""winning"" this bottom of the barrel skelly twink because he (shondo) is actually trans
KEK oh nononono groomsisters... we got too cocky...

kumo defenders up biggly rn i love my trans husband
>>107410971
shondo won't let me rest the lioness keeps biting my balls wanting to go for round 30+ since she's been in heat rcently

>>107411018
>>107398457

>caught anting her
>antis her more
profound stuff, tiffany. you sure are owning the antis!

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>>107411087
he's honestly right though, why do you think shondo herself chose to lie and why things are better and she's having so much fun in japan recently?
i think your issue is with shondo you should probably let her know you don't like that she lied instead of worrying about tuffy agreeing with her like the pussy whipped simp cuck he is lmao schizo pussy has his sovl locked in

>so mindbroken he just called himself a cuck
LMAO

>>107411166
remember when someone in the thread was bitching about giru and how he could DM shondo and then they posted this image asking how he "knew" shondo owned hand warmers like that before she posted them in the baby metal fit?

man it's really been a while huh, thankfully that tourist/anti is gone or perma'd now

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>>107411246
it's kinda crazy though with all these tourists and banned anti's how shondo's community and thread still has the same problems

i wonder why none of the barbies have this issue? i'm sure it's unsolveable and shondo is just some schizophrenic goddess (she is but ykwim) and it can't be helped

>>107411327
>>107398457
>why ever could those problems still be around

>>107411246
>>107411327
>>107398457
You can't damage control your way out of this one kid. You got caught red handed antiing shondo c:

Reminder that all of his spam is off topic

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>>107411327
a lot of t hose banned guys are long time regulars too like chicken or orange so it's not like it could possibly be a regular issue

>>107411370
think you meant to reply to this >>107398036 post instead that was what anon was responding too

>>107411396
yep it's all just jokes
>minimize
>deflect
>deny
>minimize
>gaslight
>crazymake
>downplay
>loop
something like that

alright i gotta go you retards keep shitting yourself before i'm done replying to the silly shitposts smdh get a life lol leave this poor girl alone and go bother someone else for once in your 6+ year obsession

>>107411484
it's not, it's literally about shondo

also i love how you're begging for people to get rid of it now lmao, kinda crazy how you only seem to care about that when you're getting caught and can't defend yourself with your usual manipulator stuff

kinda like running to the mods snitching on people you don't like and making it a problem for shondo inadvertently cause you have no real ground to stand on beyond dishonest emotional influence (manipulation/abuse(the loser kind too, big T does it in the based way that the bitches like))

>>107411610
they unironically are so fucked they're trying to silence you on 4chan kek

>>107410856
i need to see porn of that glorp Shondo. anyways.

ok frfr shondo is begging me to come to bed she's not feeling well later
>>107411696
holy you cooked you're onto something

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>>107411610
>minimize
>deflect
>deny
>minimize
>gaslight
>crazymake
>downplay
>loop
Literally listing everything he's doing to avoid responsibility for antiing shondo >>107398457
The irony is hilarious

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>>107411610
>>107398457

dm sent

>>107411835
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Raped

>>107411835
LOL

>>107411835
>making a "meme" to self report
well at least you realized shondo wasn't retarded and that you need to run damage control for yourself like this after getting caught
you already know she knows lol dig i guess it's hard enough for her as is so thanks on behalf of us

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>>107411835
holy shit lmao

>>107411835
>this raped him so hard he came back just to damage control
you cooked shogga this manchild is shitting rn

>>107411918
>>107398457

this thread reeks of the gaysquad
wonder why they're so worked up over that guy saying shondo was lying then got caught trying to pin it on tuffy unprompted, bizarre behavior for people unafiliated and innocent, strange thing to care about, guess it's that GFE viewer autism though i'm sure i'ts a coinky dink sorta like how even right after shondo's mother passed this same thing happened hmm
wonder what shondo would think if someone told her,. what she'd do. she's pretty conflict avoidant so i imagine it'd be indirect like in the past

>>107412230
Obviously, the gay squad posted his selfie already, you blind?
>>107411797

sorry it's too good right now i can't resist closing tab i swear have fun diggin
>>107412322
kek... king K... not like this...

>>107412230
>he's actually pretending to have gone to bed but his low IQ custard reveals him
actual retard
>>107398457

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>>107412230
>>107398457

>>107412484
pdf coded behaviour desu

>>107412484
LMAO

>>107412526
anti coded behavior desu >>107398457

>>107412526(me)
meant for >>107412230

>>107412568
pdf's are known for getting this worked up when they're caught with their hands in the cunny jars

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>>107410971
Youre on the same coin as tuffy, just the other side. you pathetic manchild leech

>>107412484
LOL

if you move 2 steps to the right, and then 4 steps forward, you return to where you started off.

>>>/trash/79741521
>>>/trash/79741521
>>>/trash/79741521

>>107414236
canon event

>>107412322
the guy who made that AI image is gay? yeah seems that way, and so are all of (You). literally outed yourselves as twink chasers lmao.

>>107415303
twinks are feminine, so it's not gay to fuck them

>>107415382
no, femboys and traps are feminine, twinks are still male. lmao again at you still saying gay shit. ANYWAY, been practicing HGT with a jar, thinking of making a split evolution type ecosystem. will update when I get further along. my nicotine gum will help, and rotifers i think, as well as many other practices for melding. also downloading factorio as practice for when you're all my slaves in my space empire

>>107415557
femboys and twinks are just different flavors for essentially the same thing

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I love him!

>>107415691
femboys look more feminine than twinks, they dress up as girls and do stuff like makeup and skincare. a twink is just a normal young male, and the word is slang used by gays.

>>107410904
Shondo's tight bussy mmmmfffffm

I realised this thread might cause Alzheimer's with the way you go in circles discussing the same shit day in day out

>>107416807
alzheimers is a specific physical problem with the brain, not daily meditations on the same battles. it might cause psychosis though as seen by the twink chasers

also I can not condone your love of trannies and similar ideologies, those that do itt. it is a legitimate mental illness

>>107416950
My goal is to make antis develop psychosis, yes.

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>>107417041
those that stare into the abyss will soon find it staring back

I'm going to be honest with my feelings
I feel disrespected that her last actual stream was the donothon, raising 100k, had a melty, took a break just long enough to reach the Japan trip in which she happened to become healthy enough to go, further extending her break
Even non-gfe chuubas care for their fans more

https://files.catbox.moe/dkl5ij.mp4

solitude is the same cradle that’s held you since the beginning; it’s not your enemy, just the last honest companion waiting at the edge of your story, it’s only here to remind you that you were never meant to be afraid.

>>107417172
Mutual destruction is a recipe for madness.

>>107417193
It's ok to miss her but It's an internet detox. The trip does not interfere with that . It's the contrary really, touching grass, spending time with a friend in person, seeing new sighs, doing new things. It's all beneficial to her. Instead of staring at a screen all day like she usually does. Let her live for a week or two. You can't equate it to her being good stream just because you miss her and she can function well enough to do things. She is not done with her break like you seem to be implying. A break is not bed rotting. She can do things that's not streaming on her break.
Find some distractions. Don't make her solly responsible for your well being. External happiness does not last long term so do new things yourself until she comes back if you have nothing to do.

>>107419336
she has spend her entire time in japan getting drunk, drinking coffee, or bedrotting. none of these things are healthy

Wouldn't it just make a lot more sense for Shondo to be lesbian anyways if she really wants to do the GFE right?
Normal human desires always end up conflicting with what GFE requires from the VTuber, and only cause mental and emotional anguish, which takes a huge toll, which in Shondo's case is evidenced by her having to keep taking months of breaks.
Honestly I don't think anybody would feel cucked if she was just open about being fully lesbian in her personal love life. That way people wouldn't always feel insecure and defensive about the one real husband coming forward and ruining the pretend play.
She's such a precious girl we should be wishing the best for her.
I'm too tired now to explain it to you with more nuance than this, so I'll revise it a few more times and I'm going to keep spamming it until you retards understand the self evident truth in this.
I'm Team Lez Shondo. love is love, especially if it's just two women

>>107419683
She drank once and is out and about plenty

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>>107419336
Well said.

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she's my fute bagel

>created scenario in my head
you didn't realize what you did and that made her sad

>>107419336
If she is in such need of an internet detox where she cannot give us an update on being sick and only thought to apologize to the Shibes for not seeing their oshi today, than this vacation is not going to cut it.
The break you're implying she needs should be helping her do these small, meaningful things without any external pressure. We only know she is sick from an external source.
This vacation seems to be solidifying her indifference towards us rather than healing it.

What the fuck happened. I stop watching Shondo for a year and check in here to catch myself up for when she returns and now I'm just confused.

>>107421487
Your first mistake was coming to her designated anti general.

>>107421510
Which threads are sympathetic towards her then?

>>107421552
twitter

>>107421552
literally just check her twitter accounts or go into her discord. people there will likely also just give you a QRD or direct you to her twitter.

>>107421552
/lig/ is pretty sympathetic towards her most times.

>>107421552
Not the word "threads"
>>107421614
>>107421737
Bad answers.
>>107421750
Acceptable answer, thank you.

>>107421834
*note

>>107421270
>she immediately talked in discord after this
hi thread reading shondo!

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>feels better
told you she was just drinking too much and needed some sleep.

>>107409625
are you the new gary?

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>>107409625
hi!

>>107423045
Gary was a banned shogger, this is just a Sam (formerly Max) who visits /here/.

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>>107423045
>>107423161
I'm just a Sam/Max who wants to make his oshi's friend's thread more positive :D

>>107423161
most of the people /here/ are banned, and he’s not a shogger.

>>107423400
He was for like 24 hours. Posted on the discord before he got banned.

>>107423415
okay so? he was never one of us and never loved her

>>107423449
True he was never one of us. He had a girlfriend

>>107423496
i have a wife

>>107423559
>i have a wife who takes breaks from me and her other husbands for months at a time
lol

>I have the sniffles and that's why my fingies will disintegrate if I tappy tap on my phone to give a Twitter update

>>107424602
LMAO
shameless grifting ahh bi tch

>>107425115
why do you believe you deserve to know the truth?

>>107421270
>>107421913
she's so groomed it's fucking retarded, already going back to her usual mental illness

she literally cannot help herself for even a single week on vacation

>>107425716
c:

the fact that she even felt bad after those posts on 4chan by the same damn people after EVERYTHING (especially the last 2 days here) is proof of how bad it is
>>107417193
>i'm going to be honest with my feelings
lol irl, saying you're "being honest" is all it takes to guilt trip her into falling back in the same shit

thank you guys for dragging her down every single step of the way of her getting better please keep up the good work i look forward to her 10th loop sperging about being ungroomable on stream or some shit seething

she betrays the people who actually love her and aren't lying to her about "being honest" every time she does this

there's a reason you won't ever see a response to the shit i've been saying that's serious not even on 4chan so i know you guys don't care about her either but like i said she insists on doing things the hard way

epic

https://youtube.com/shorts/-JdH4O-FYL4
How I feel when shoggas larp as me itt

>>107425751
get over yourself for once in your life on the fucking internet

>>107409188
Bring back the poll. Now.

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>>107425877
>jealous
even you know why that's not true

i'm disappointed and she knows why

i'm only bothering to even say anything here because she's incapable of acting rationally and not listening to the same 2 people on 4chan dragging her down if not

>>107425913
i know you think you're proving a point here but you're not. you never have. in the 2 years of me being here you've been nothing but wrong over and over again on this shit so go ahead and get defensive and "joke" around but do it knowing what you're doing

great job you guys guilt tripped her into caving like usual by pretending to be honest and le sad le nice guys (after 2+ days proving for hours that you're just manipulating her lol)

now her ego is kicking in like always and we're gonna do the same loop because like i've been saying for months she needs literal professional therapy levels of help on her pathology that you're in large part responsible for creating in her brain in the first place

>i hope you're proud
i hope they're not proud because they shouldn't be just like how they shouldn't have been proud that you were still doing the subathon on 7 hours of sleep and pushing yourself and engaging in this same exact behavior for the same reasons that started this hiatus

the only people who are "proud" are the same few who cause all the problems and they're not even proud they just lie to her

if she wants to make people proud she should really start by not engaging and letting the same behavior that is responsible for her hospitalization or "lying" in the first place. but she doesn't wanna hear that cause she can't comprehend that sometimes the hardest and most responsible and "proud" thing to do isn't this arbitrary delusion in her head like pushing yourself on 7 hours of sleep in 2 weeks and it's having the maturity and responsibility to your self and the people who actually love you and don't just lie about it to put your irrational groomed ego to the side and recognize it's retarded feelings and the right thing to do is to go against the feelings being manipulated


anyway enjoy i'm done here

>>107426143
>but all her fans say they're proud too!!!
all her fans are fucking clueless and don't know what the fuck is really happening like usual which is how i can be right over and over the last 2 years despite her desperately trying to prove, along with her few dedicated internet antis trying to get her to kill herself or just wanting her to strip better, me wrong

i don't want to be right either but look where we are

>>107425972
You're the /pkg/ schizo, what are you doing here??

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I hate her!

>>107426215
>disproven by shondo herself
yeah just like how she was fine on 7 hours of sleep for her subathon right before she ended up in the hopital lol irl

so proud of her letting internet retards feed her delusions to the point it kills herself and causes problems for her and her family

but it's all just funny games (despite you literally seeing it's not today and yesterday)

so true mhm when shondo ends up in an early grave and her family is left to struggle for no good reason it'll be such a funny meme too just like this thread when her mother died or whatever other shi-

i dont' even need to explain it anymore because i know you know better

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at least the same 4chan groomerantis are happy that their stripper caved in though (they didn't even need to pay either this time)

meanwhile everyone else including herself suffers as she's stuck in the same mindset that causes all these problems in the first place

maybe if she wanted to talk on her own volition she should fix the problems that made her not want to in the first place

>>107426361
i'll apologize for being mean but i'm not wrong and i'm not going to apologize for that just like how i won't apologize for telling her off during the subathon right before she had her cat picnic

yeah none of it matters ignore the last 2 years of this exact kind of thing causing nothing but problems for her and the majority of everyone else over a handful of people who have shown over and over they just lie and guise it as honesty or care

i know you're ragebaiting but it's this unserious dismissive mindset that is the real ragebait

shondo could end up in the grave tomorrow cause of this shit (hypothetically) and she'd still have it written on her tombstone "tubby was wrong"

but at least it'll be epic when i can say "i told you so" on 4chan to pwn le internet people
i'm just overreacting like usual though go ahead and do the same loop for 2 years straight

despite shondo literally doing this japan trip in the first place against the desires of these same groomerantis she's sperging out about me holding her accountable for

it's really hard to leave someone when they're sitting there cutting themself blaming it on you lol but then using you around to further enable them cutting themself

this is the mental isolation and dismissal btw, i'm the bad guy though cause i'm not happynodding in chat saying i'm proud of her for streaming 2 weeks on 7 hours of sleep and being prideful pointlessly about it or that i'm not proud that she fell for the same internet manipulation and lies t hat she literallyt just got talked to about a f ew hours earlier

reminder i've been the only one saying this shit yet somehow always right (and there's not many people who use this thread because even other regulars who are innocent and clueless will agree with me occassionally when they notice what's goijng on with shondo)
need to write "tubby mad lol" on her tombstone

the irony of being smug when all that's happened is i was proven right on things i really wish she'd finally let me be wrong about
dissappointing doesn't begin to describe it

but yeah why am i still here after a year of being perma'd epic own you got me enjoy your cat picnic

>>107411835
I don't get it

Forcing Shondo to stream is anti behaviour everyone who donated on the shondothon is an anti

>>107426758
the usual suspect groomers trying to control the narrative
it's truly a mystery why they are subtly implying that lying to them specifically is bad
>>107426790
no one said this ever take your meds and engage with reality better yet get therapy

>>107414215
??

>>107419336
The internet detox she needs can be found on Sundays at Church in the Divine Liturgy

>>107426813
anti outed alert!

>>107426790
Donating to shondo is generally not anti shondo, save for the chip and drinking milestone. Most of the harm was done to the marriage than to her, but the goals were set by her anyway. Donating for a specific goal can be considered anti behavior (e.g. for feet)

if you're just being honest with your feelings about shondo having actual growth on her grooming victim problem that's good

if you're just being honest with your feelings and reflecting on the years of harm caused to her and her loved ones and everyone around her by her grooming victim problem and lack of growth that's bad

my grooming victim daughterwife told me this btw

>>107426947
i hope under your ego and defensiveness there's a much more serious realization that change needs to be made and mistakes were made and there's reflection because at the end of the day this has nothing to do with the stupid petty shit it gets deflected to

Donating in the shondothon was the same as paying for a prostitute. If you did it you think Shondo is a whore. You can always donate outside of the shondothon without forcing her to do things.

who am i even talking to i am insanely delusional and banned
>>107427010
takes one to know one, i'm built different ye that's how i'm always right but also i'm banned should have left over a year ago and there is nothing to notice about the other people in the equation involving me and the things i have been saying

i apologize sorry bye proud of her for finally getting rid of an anti like me now she can come back from japan and everything will be fixed

>>107427081
TRVKE
and the prices were shit too lol she'll throw away her career and mental and life for you if you just donate a few thousand and implement the most basic grooming strats for a couple years
she's not even a good stripper she's a groomed one baka hate this bitch hope she dies without me

>>107427147
Donate 10k now!

>>107425932
I didn't have the means to update it/ remake it, so i baked without

>>107427169
digits of diligence and trvth
i kneel, godspeed high T

>>107427169
lol divorcee cuck jealous melty ur banned c:

@tuffnar if you start formulating your posts in an intelligible way then maybe people will read what you say more

gaped by thread breeding shondo

Days without custard: 0

>>107427335
what stretched schizo hag pussy does to a virgin simp

>>107427420
this is why all the regulars who stay around have taken the stripper anti pill, because if you don't then you can't handle staying

tuffy should just rape her to fix her t bh

>>107427609
kek irl

>>107427609
male version of brandy melville

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Anything new in the discord?

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>>107427728
She apologized for being so quiet the past few days. Said she has alot of talk about when she gets back from Japan and that she's going to a kimono tea celebration. She's feeling better compared to yesterday and she's trying to make the most of this vacation and has already had a ton of great experiences in Japan. She likes the country but wouldn't move there. She's also wearing a big padded coat while she's outside now to avoid getting cold.

i hate her i love this evil b itch

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https://x.com/Rainmaker1973/status/1997232567125430614
Thoughts?
>>107427874
Thanks!
>She apologized for being so quiet the past few days.
I've already forgiven her
>kimono tea celebrations
If she interacts with men i'm going to lose my mind
She is so gonna get drugged...
>She's feeling better compared to yesterday and she's trying to make the most of this vacation
That's good to hear, i was worried and a bit angry
>and has already had a ton of great experiences in Japan.
If they include men i'll be losing my mind
Same for if they're degenerate in any way & i will blame nina and the devil
>She's also wearing a big padded coat while she's outside now to avoid getting cold
Good idea, men will be less likely to look at her then, too
Unless... she is indeed the cutest... i have no doubts she'd be cute still even with a coat on, maybe even cuter
RAGEY
Thanks again for the info relay

shorkin it to shondo rn

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>>107428276 (me)

how does childhood schizophrenia differ from normal schizophrenia that develops after you have already grown a good amount

>>107428429
As far as i can tell, in my experience, the former seems to lead to more sadness, while the latter to more dissapointment
Also, if you grow up with it you learn to deal with it more, but I'd you start older then you can't recover as well since you know what you're supposed to be like, even though you can't turn back

>>107428592 me
If you*

https://x.com/PunchingCat/status/1997352381089272119
You (not me)

https://x.com/ShitpostGate/status/1997518932195016842
Do you hate mondays?

>>107428592
>then you can't recover as well since you know what you're supposed to be
i think this is actually just one small part of recovery having to do with your mindset and is more of a CBT issue unique to the individual rather than something prominent and concrete, if i had to guess, as far as recovery is concerned that's just more outlook
t. someone who has similar issues to someone who developed schizophrenia later on in life but was a lot more normal before

if anything someone who develops schizophrenia later on in life is going to have better outcomes related to recovery since their brain had more time to form and was likely able to engage in healthier and normal living up until then, whereas someone who had it since a child is being formed and wired by the illness much more fundamentally. of course it's all case by case though and even severe trauma like that can be helped, it really depends and even then we are far from having psychology solved so it's a lot of guessing and broad statements and luck

I will hit Shondo in the head until her schizophrenia is fixed

>>107429353
no me

>>107429075
>>107429290
Maybe i just need a brain doctor
Also psychology is flawed as a "science"

>>107429387
It's fucking broken lol, the gold standard treatment is just placebo

>>107429387
What could be done to make it more of a "science"?

>>107429470
Whose fault is it that it's broken?
And do you think that the field of psychology has produced absolutely no valid findings and theories?

>>107429529
Human experimentation

>>107429290
im more interested in the physical causes and differences, i've heard there are a few ways it can happen, like inflammation

>>107429529
Nothing, it fundamentally is flawed because it has unprovable presuppositions (namely, that you can accurately measure interpret the human psyche)
>>107429584
Having repeatable theories doesn't validate psychology as a science, it just proves that humans have things in common that they generally react to in similar ways

https://x.com/trad_west_/status/1997304807808532885
@santa-deniers
Thoughts?

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>>107430366 (me)

>>107430413
Believing others is a Christian virtue

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>>107430366

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there's something really funny about shondo pushing herself this hard to actually get out of her bubble and live a little while people here are seething about it and refusing to do anything to improve their miserable lives. she's so much better than you fags

>>107430741
>has been touching grass for a long time now
>she's still forcing herself to do it, bwo

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bzz bzzz bzzz bz bzzz bzzzz

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>>107430912

When will Shonbee have a vacation? She works all the time

>>107430884
case in point kek

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>>107430912
bzzzzzzz

>>107431001
It's winter, she will hibernate
Eepy bee

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I love her!

>>107430741
>going on vacation multiple times a year is considered pushing yourself hard

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>>107432490
I love her the most

>>107430784
t. shondo anti cucked by tuffy

>>107432490
Skinwalker
No wrist ribbon

>>107432594
that's why she's outside the bars

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>>107432523
False
I love her the most! I also love the marriage the most

i think it is likely that FS was SRA similarly to me. fills me with anger, but i cant afford to bother with her case when i have troubel deciphering my own memories. i'm going to delete the ego and complete my (mine) mission, not theirs.

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>>107432517
>unable to rotate the apple
>no inner voice
>unable to understand hypotheticals or abstract concepts
you shouldn't willingly expose how retarded you are like this

>>107412855
I have a friend in Shondos community and he's told me LTD and somnium are faggots. From what I've seen he's right.

>>107433216
Who is your friend?

>>107433236
His names Scott. Scott Fuckalltodowithyou.

>>107433096
that's just the majority of zoomers though

>>107433251
Good one shogga

>>107433251
lmao cliquesissy raped and gaped BVC style

tubby said he was done 7 hours ago but he's still here wasting his life away >>107426143

>>107410904
>This is what is making RAM prices so high
Grim.

>>107433754
proof? he's been done over a year now by shondo

>>107433096
sage here, i can rotate the apple but it's always like when you are drunk and lay down and your head keeps spinning and then resetting till you wait. also can do the others.

why did shondo serve the whiny beta cucks at her star bucks by talking in discord when they bitched

>Why did Shondo do the bare minimum for her fans when Shibes got a verbal apology from her when we were about to get nothing
Quite the mystery why she would show her husbands that she cares still.

>>107434137
ur not her husband ur just a beta cuck larping as one in the starbucks
sir please move on

>>107434148
And you are the bottom slut that is permanently banned from starbucks for shitting and pissing yourself.

>>107434237
yeah but that's my point, you've shit and pissed for longer and far worse so back to my question why is shondo still serving just cause you pay for a coffee when you harass her and her family

>>107434414 (me)
also i've never even been banned ever so what's ur point

>>107434414
I haven't done anything you stupid cunt. Pointing out any remote positives in her actions seems to really piss you off, doesn't it?

>>107434458
it's an overall net negative though which is why i'm wondering why she continues the behavior, not that there aren't some irrelevant positives

if you snort coke the positive is you feel good but shondo should probably not do that but idk she's an adult and knows her limits ofc i don't wanna take away her autonomy

You know the perfect way to start the year? A Shondothon.

>>107434491
It is a net negative to show her own viewership the same treatment that she gave someone else's? You really do just want to isolate and control her, groomcuk.

shondo is so committed to wanting to be treated like a little girl she even has the brattiness "know it all" of one
stupid bitch kids don't know shit
>>107434547
why did she give someone else's viewers that treatment then? if this was a one-off you would have a point, unfortunately there is years of shondo struggling with this issue and her herself admitting it's a problem and she wants it to get better so i simply just want to help support her when it comes to her doormat behavior at her starbucks job and this weirdo beta cuck whining at her she caves to and lets make her feel bad

be real, if it was one person @ing her on twitter instead of abusing anonymity do you think that'd have changed her mind as much lmao
it's not even anonymous though cause she's not stupid enough to not know the persons doing that here anyway

>>107434624
she only typed in nina's discord after the thread was bitching about the same problem in the first place too, mind you lol

>>107434148
>post that one starbucks analogy
>/shon/ immediately starts adopting it
truly its a Sage world

>>107434720
>/shon/
no don't give them the credit for my behavior, they aren't based like me and i'm tired of shondo herself projecting me onto them desu that's part of the issue
it ain't a coinky dink i'm the one who adopted it

>>107434624
And we have years of Shondo promising us that she is trying to do better, which you seem oddly opposed to.
>why did she give someone else's viewers that treatment then?
Because she wants to show all parties that she cares?
This is all very interesting timing if she did read /here/ because she would have read your anting >>107398457 and proved you wrong.

You lost again, groomcuck.

when will she come

>>107434820
TRVTH NVKED

>>107434820
you're the one who doesn't want her to do better though? and shondo herself doesn't think lying is bad, that's you, actually, so kinda weird you keep projecting lying = bad onto her like she should be guilty for hiding information from people like you who just use it against her in her starbucks job

it's honestly messed up you think shondo is this retarded desu
stick to manipulating her feelings like you did to get her to talk in discord spergbuck cuck

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Shondo edit?

>>107434752
it's ok, shhh, your value is acknowledged, yung gup

>>107434893
>you're the one who doesn't want her to do better though?
Proof? She seems to be proving me wrong if you believe half of the retarded shit you say.

>Error: You cannot delete a post this old.
fuck

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>>107434900
>i want to be nice
unless you're anyone who isn't like a handful of the meanest kinds of people on the planet (spergbucks manchildren)
she should at least just be based and own it if she'd rather be evil (bad) like she acts in these cases
>>107434927
unfortunately it's not and never really was which is again why this conversation is even happening here rn
i'm getting fleece confessional stream flashbacks of her specifically saying don't white knight and that she's immune and to trust her (right before immediately proving me right to be doing what i did despite what she thought because her mental is in the wrong place for wrong reasons which she literally reflected on and admitted after that first hiatus and fleece left (wasn't banned first, mind you)))

anyway yeah value means nothing here not even the barbies she values enough to reach out and lean on before doing wacky shit like her mania on the subathon and floki etc even when being suggest to do that kek

which i won't get into the nuance of why actually it's okay that she is like this and that her feelings are understandable and it's hard for her because that's an entirely new convo i've already talked about but just to clarify it's more just sad than anything to be mad at her over besides frustration due to that sad stuff

anyway no my value is not acknowledged so i can't shh i do still have to waste my energy talking or else it won't be which is half of why i'm so annoyed at this point i'd rather do anything else and shondo would too but being an adult is doing things you don't wanna for the best right ;p

>>107435179
don't forget for the fleece confessional streams and her mental saying "don't le white knight" she got that from everyone else trying to shill that and put it into her head, which of course it was the usual suspects too lol

2+ years of value being misplaced is precisely the issue honestly
see: le groomer mods melties and similar

>>107435245
also also even within the last 2 years her value with the barbies even has been misplaced just wanna make that point clear since it's not really about me i'm just involved in it i could disappear rn none ofthis changes for the better

>>107435179
@shondo
summarize this post

>>107435338
insanely delusional

I miss the days when 99% of the anons here weren't banned antis

uhhh yeah lemme get a demi shondocunny to go please, that'll be for "Mr. BVC" thanks

>>107435504
sir this is a starbucks the shtarbvcks is down the street

I whish for the times the UK bans /shon/ from Shondo's puter

>>107435477
I'm an anti that doesn't even watch her streams.

>>107435477
i'm not banned (nor am i an anti)

this is hell

>>107436274
don't be so dramatic just close the damn thread

>>107436274
It can always get worse.

>>107434927
>misread gup as pup
Almost spit out my drink. I'm cooked.

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SHONDO COME BACK PLS

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SHONDO I MISS YOU

Is he so obsessed with with Starbucks analogy ATM because his parents forced him to get his first job?

>>107436325
it wouldn't be hell if that was the problem now would it, the dramatic one is you
>>107436346
it will

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SHONDO IF YOU DONT STREAM NEXT WEEK, I CUT DEEPER

>>107436839
he tends to steal vernacular from popular normie tier streamers and the starbucks thing is just the most recent one he's parroting.

>>107430163
hi dewd c:

>>107435179
for a puppy you sure do yap a lot. just take the compliment

tuff i know you're a 2dfd pinkpill pajamadolls ss_andrea aquasamaqueen AINII gooner fr, you're just too nerdy and winner coded

>>107438003
how is he winner coded

>>107438092
you wouldn't get it (he will (platonically and in a healthy way))

>>107438206
ok

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SHONDO PLS PLS PLS

>>107438585
Shonda?

she's such a whore liar now. she really gave up
my wife died two years ago. this disgusting unbecoming cunt wearing her skin is not my wife
she has been replaced by a skin-walker

>>107439041
That's nice tubby

>>107439041
if you don't understand why is she like this currently, you don't deserve to know the truth.

what do you mean she is happy with me i thought, she even dropped by to chat in discord yesterday c:

>>107440287
you seem like a jealous cuck c:

>>107438585
Shonda Civic.

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Good day Shondophrenics :D

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Will the Shondofiles be released?

>>107441226
No, they are kept hidden to protect the Shondophiles in high places.

>>107430163
Who desinged that plusy? How does it look so fucking smug when't not even remotely a human face? Why is psychology so weird?

>>107441359
All fumos look like that

So did the cute twink not bake cuz he got gaped too hard? What happened? There was no thread for hours yesterday.

>>107430282
Do you realize that all you're doing is puling shit out of your ass to justify your ignorance?

>>107441440
he was sent to the silly room for being too based

>>107441409
Whether fumos are designed individually (which I didn't imply) or not have nothing to with what I asked though...

>>107441505
Shondo designed the Shumo but the face is mostly the same for all fumos.

>>107441214
what’s up

she sounds like shondo
https://bunkr.red/f/hBXarrQuj2OTS

>>107442287
nah, she just sounds like a generic cunnytuber

>>107442522
so shondo then

>>107434491
>i don't wanna take away her autonomy
I do

>>107434820
Better in relation to what/ in what regard

>>107442835
ESL moment

>>107435477
I'm banned, but not an anti

>>107441214
Good day to you too

>>107441442
Meds

>>107443046
cope

>>107442287
at 23:38 she sounds like 2022 shondo

Kagebros, I haven't seen our king much since he outed himself as an adorable twink...did...did we fuck up? Oh no no no, what do we do now?

>>107443711
fuck the twink in the ass, that's what we do

>>107435477
I am an anti, but not banned.

https://x.com/JOKAQARMY1/status/1997743933947085275
I can't believe she didn't get kidnapped or go missing in America

>>107443711
>>107443747
sage here this was my op to out you all as faggots, and it worked. cope and seethe

>>107444101
he is conflating missing children with kidnapped children

it's not that kidnappings are common in America and the UK, it's just that, because of the culture, it's common for children to run away from home to try to start to live on their own.

>>107444378
The data is way to high to it just be from kids running away
He also needs to clarify what he means by children

>>>/x/41628244
>>>/x/41628266
@shokage thoughts on the consecutive dubs?

>>107444749
Embarrassing
You need to be 18 to post here

>>107444582
the statistics he cites define "children" as synonymous with "minors" (people under the age of 18).

Ass for your hypothesis (that the unusually high rates of missing children in the USA and the UK is due to high rates of amounts of kidnappings, rather than children running away from home voluntarily), the data disagrees with you.

https://www.unh.edu/ccrc/sites/default/files/media/2022-02/national-estimates-of-missing-children-an-overview.pdf

https://www.ojp.gov/library/publications/missing-abducted-runaway-and-thrownaway-children-america

>>107444883
Yeah ok

>>107444749
missing a 55 so maybe pointing to that. or it could be 6644, or 4466 depending on how you count it. other than that it's just christian stuff I don't care about. talking about the "uncreated cause" and it's some space wizard making jew golems (adam and eve) in israel.

>>107445868
You really should pick up the bible, you'd learn so much. I don't think you're retarded but you seem it when you're ill informed on a subject.

>>107445868
you descended from them, that makes you a golem by your logic lol irl

>>107446121
I do not believe in genesis.
>>107446026
The Bible. a book centred around the tribe of israel and their God. You don't want me to read the bible, just interpret it the same way. God literally creates man the same way jewish occultists create golems

>>107446225
>God literally creates man the same way jewish occultists create golems
Or Jewish occultists formulate the theory of golems on the creation of man by God?

>>107446026
I've read the Bible, and it proves that Christianity is a false religion. There was a reason why reading it was forbidden for most of Christian history. Ironically, Christians (and I mean the ones who are honest, not the ones who have studied it, realized it was just a tool for social control, and then started to pretend to believe for their own benefit), who ask others to read the Bible, haven't read it themselves.

As for the "uncreated cause," it's not in the Bible. It's something a Christian apologist adopted from an ancient Greek philosopher who used the concept to fallaciously argue that there should be dozens of gods in the cosmos. Aquinas copied the argument and added an unfounded premise to claim that there is only one god, and that god just happens to be the one he believes in.

>>107446435
You can just say you hate God and move on with your day

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You know we don't need to repeat the same debate everyday, right? We haven't had different results in months, I've just been right every time

>>107446435
reddit low iq melty

>>107446435
no they just prevented it from being translated into vernacular to prevent retards like you from making up your own retarded interpretation

>>107446750
They're the same kind of people who try to understand the Bible by itself, falling for the word-concept fallacy and assuming every word means what they think it means

>>107446508
I "hate" the God character in the same way that I "hate" Dr. Curtis Connors, Voldemort, or Ilúvatar. They are all antagonists in works of fiction who would be considered terrible people if they existed. However, I don't really care about them at all since they don't exist.

What I care about are people who cause real harm either as a consequence of their religious beliefs or because they use religion as a tool to exploit others.

>>107446818
>What I care about are people who cause real harm either as a consequence of their religious beliefs or because they use religion as a tool to exploit others.
Insane amount of presuppositions that you can't justify without God

>>107446874
It's not a presupposition, it's observed reality.

>>107446904
"Who" or "what" "is" "doing" the "observing"? And what is "reality"?
Without God, you need to justify the concepts between the quotes, otherwise, they are presuppositions
Not even talking about logic as a universal language for coherence

>>107446225
>i do not believe in oxygen
Braindead

>>107447041
Ah yes, the classic pseudo-philosophic Jordan Peterson (who, ironically, is not even a Christian, he is one of the most egregious grifters who exploit the beliefs of Christians for personal gain) maneuver: take everyday words “who,” “being,” “truth,” “chaos,” “order”, and treat them as if they’re ancient runes whose meanings cannot be used unless you submit to his metaphysical framework.

These words starting points of discussion, not things that must be justified before you’re allowed to use language. If you demand a prejustification for every term you use, you end up in an infinite regress where you’re not even allowed to say “word” until you’ve justified “word,” “say,” “you,” and “allowed.”

> Without God, you can't even define X!
You can define “observer” without God: An observer is a cognitive system capable of registering sensory input.

You can define “reality”: The set of all things that exist independently of our beliefs.

These definitions come from empiricism, phenomenology, cognitive science, and basic analytic philosophy, none of which require a deity to operate. Saying you “need God” to justify definitions is like saying you “need Zeus” to justify thunderstorms.

Peterson assumes that if you can't provide metaphysical justification for a concept, then the concept is invalid. Philosophers stopped doing this around 400 years ago, instead, we can use defeasible justification, coherence, empirical adequacy, explanatory power, among other alternatives that Peterson unjustifiably discards.

> Logic as a universal language
Logic is not a god or anything supernatural; it’s a cognitive tool we invented to create our models of reality, in an attempt to explain and predict our past, present, and future observations.

>>107447745
Proof of any of this cope?

>>107447908
It came to me in a dream

>>107447908
desert apes theory crafted it while deliriously dying of malnutrition and heat stroke, so it must be true!

>>107447745
I'm not talking about this definition stuff, i wasn't even aware that JP did this, it's gay af and i don't watch him.
I am talking beyond definitions, I'm talking about justifying your use of those concepts
How do you have identity divorced from God (who and what)? What about states of being (is)? What is being something or someone? What is "is"ing? What is the process of observing? What and how can (ability) "you" (unjustified) even observe anything? What is real and what is fake? Is there such a thing as objective reality? If yes, then it must be grounded in someone or something objective outside yourself. Spoiler alert: you can't justify these without God, and if you try to claim God doesn't exist then you need to individually justify these things or conceptualize justifications for their existence outside God (spoiler alert, again: you cannot)

>>107447745
>"pseudo-philosophic"
>look inside
>philosophy
??? Wdhmbt

>>107448591
You did so well before making the colossal leap that only god could be the grounding factor. you need to justify such a ridiculous unfounded claim

>>107448966
God's existence is not something you philosophically prove, but a requirement for any level of reasoning and for the world to be coherent
God is rightfully presupposed in all that we do, the problem appears when you try to deny God's existence

>>107448591
It doesn't matter whether you personally watch Jordan Peterson or not, many apologists try to imitate his pseudo-intellectual antics.

In short, you are doing the classic presuppositional fallacy:
1) Define God as the necessary precondition for everything.
2) Demand that others justify everything.
3) Reject all justifications.
4) Claim this proves God.

Just replace the concepts in your argument to see how absurd it is: “You cannot explain traffic without the Traffic Fairy. If you deny the Traffic Fairy, you must individually justify cars, roads, motion, friction, and drivers. Spoiler alert: you cannot.”

You have not demonstrated that:
1) why identity requires a deity
2) why observation requires divine grounding
3) why objectivity implies a mind
4) why concepts need ultimate justification
5) why the Christian God is the only candidate
6) why your own concepts are exempt from the demands you impose
7) etc...

By your own (absurd) standards, you aren't allowed to presuppose anything of the previous, so your arguments collapse on their own.

>>107449053
You're applying circular cope, like I said you need to prove your ridiculous leap in logic or concede you don't know shit

>>107449067
>>107449249
My proof is that my worldview is entirely consistent and coherent because of God being the objective source of all that is, in an ideal form and immaterial
It's your worldview that has no justification for objective reality and justified metaphysics and epistemology
Try and give me something that solves these issues outside God in any way
Cry harder; or don't, i would rather read less of your garbage

>>107449383
>God is the objective source because I objectively say it is
This is why religious types will never be taken seriously.

>>107449499
I don't think you understand the argument

>>107449383
Dude, you have no justification for the belief that God exists to begin with.

"My proof is that my worldview is entirely consistent and coherent because of God being the objective source of all that is, in an ideal form and immaterial" is as absurd as saying that "I have $100 in my wallet, therefore it must be true that I killed someone and stole $100 from them while I was asleep"; you have no given no reason to believe that your God is the only thing that could explain existence. As things stand, you're multiplying your entities unnecessarily, the universe itself could take the role God takes in your metaphysics (as you have no given no reason to think that the "uncaused cause" must be a conscious, immaterial ideal form, nor that the supposed conscious, immaterial ideal form must be the Christian God specifically).

>>107449531
a proper understanding of the "argument" leads to concluding that it is a braindead one.

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https://youtu.be/UWMyb4vKRU0 How did shondo come up with such a banger so early in her career? When is she doing something like this again?

>>107449531
>God being the objective source of all that is
That is a subjective opinion and you are stating it as proof. Declaring victory in an argument by saying you believe in your own opinion is vapid and meaningless.
You essentially do not actually believe in anything because this concept of God only exists within your own subjective assertion.
By your own logic, if you ceased to exist, then God in your own conceptualization would cease to exist as well.

This applies for the other doctrines which share the same level of "proof" that you have, which isn't actually proof.
You do realize that God would not exist without others asserting his existence from the same subjective lens as you do, right?

>>107449894
this makes me wonder whether the overly attached yandere wife persona she used to adopt was ever genuine (and that her "husbands" ended up disappointing her, leading her to drop it), or was just part of the kayfabe.

>>107449692
You keep trying to use retarded and irrelevant analogies as arguments
It's more like "there must be an objective source of values because there are values in the world which require objectiveness, which would otherwise, in a subjective world, have no reason to be the case"
In a purely subjective world, you wouldn't be able to have values of even the most minute stuff, like colors. In a subjective world, we wouldn't relate colors as being more red or more blue than yellow or green; rather, not that we wouldn't, but that we couldn't. Instead, we would name them each their individual thing.
Or height and other physical characteristics. You could not compare between two objects, they would simply be as they are.
Only an objective, ontological source could provide the necessary epistemological and metaphysical requirements for the present and actual human experience
Now? Whether this source is personal or the Christian God or not is a different philosophical matter, though i am convinced that is the case; but i don't need to prove any specific God for my worldview to be justified, its up to you to justify a world without God
>>107450058
https://x.com/qwertymchurty2/status/1968441692668772411
I talk about this here

>>107449867
What happens in the Barbies' island stays in the Barbies' island

>>107450595
Objetivism is retarded fuck you plato stay on the cave

I’ve been texting a girl recently and she’s telling me how much she likes dark romance literature and sending me voiceclips more than texts.

>>107450595
> there must be an objective source of values because there are values in the world which require objectiveness
Non-sequitur, also, the premise ("there are values in the world which require objectiveness") is unjustified.

> which would otherwise, in a subjective world, have no reason to be the case
Your stance is the most subjectivist that could exist. You claim that everything comes from the consciousness of a deity. Apologists just disingenuously appropriated the concept of "objectivity" from the Scientific Revolution a few years ago to try to make their baseless beliefs seem as concrete and justifiable as what we know from empiricism.

> In a purely subjective world, you wouldn't be able to have values of even the most minute stuff
Non-sequitur.

> Only an objective, ontological source could provide the necessary epistemological and metaphysical requirements for the present and actual human experience
You are conflating things that are inherently subjective (such as morals) and things that exist in the external world. Also, Occam's Razor suggests that the "objective, ontological source" is the universe itself.

> i don't need to prove any specific God for my worldview to be justified
You literally have. Your whole worldview hinges on it.

> its up to you to justify a world without God
Simple: I exist.

Goodnight shoggas
>>107451053
There's nothing wrong with being simple minded, just don't try to pretend you are something you're not
>>107450963
Run

>>107450595
> I talk about this here
so, basically, we ruined it for her because we are sluts for her attention?

>>107451364
aww.... you've run out of nonsense to regurgitate, so now you've resorted to name-calling? cute.

>>107451364
Do you think she likes me?

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Get to flipping burgers you fucking nigger lmao

>>107452520
getting a job at McDonald's or similar is actually also pretty hard nowadays.

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>>107452520
Obsessed faggot