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>>107491495>lesser form>implying the ones that quit would have even participated in this stream
>>107491495And people shit on this lineup for being the 2nd rate one when the lineup was revealed, when this session that produced all the memes. And from Raora of all people. That's why you never count out any Holo, they all have the potential to be endlessly entertaining
death to kojak!
>Me sick, took medicine and can't sleep for some reasonWhy?
https://x.com/Dahl_UTD/status/1885410748353945923Here's the clip of peanut saying faggot and instantly backtracking on it
>qrd on the yab?here you gohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmGK7KidudI
the queer door is scary
>>107491652watch boring vtubers like kiara and rissa and you'll get sleepy
>>107491660KWAB
>>107491495The fanbase content machine is still trucking along and producing quality fanworks. The main loss community wise is Dudul after Gura left.
bros i accidentally went to /tv/ instead of /vt/
>>107491636>peopleNobody who watches streams. Who would think a collab with 4/5 Cerulean Cup could be worse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7ZSm8HA28U
>>107491627Holy shit. Who angered watamage?
>>107491714Grim, I'm so sorry anon
>>107491660>saying faggotbased>backtrackingfaggot
>>107491712>dudulThis guy is a phasefag
>>107491721People just saw ERB and Bae and just checked out, but I knew my girl Kronii, Raora and even Wawa would pull through. And surprisingly everyone has their own funny moemnts. Honestly every Wawa group collabs has been goldmines. Even the fucking HoloEN/ID Amongus is good
>>107491668>clipping GrimmiBallsy
gosh irys is so dumb
>>107491785clip that could have gotten hundred of thousands of views, weird that nobody did it
https://pardos.shop/products/cecilia-immergreenWhen will this sell out?
>>107491758god she sounds hideous
>>107491794it's great
>>107491774Don't dismiss the talents just because they are from Phase.The Saga gen does "feel" like Phase Connect. They feel like a new vtubing company.
>>107491805woah
>>107491833They feel like HoloEN if HoloEN didn't keep making terrible hiring decisions
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>>107491816Jesus fucking Christ. Why would you even put that shit up on Twitter?
>>107491691I rarely watch Kiara but I know Rissa talks a lot, Kiara probably too? Idk but I could listen to a girl talk for hours and won't get bored but if they play a game which I'm not really that interested or invested in it, it can get kinda boring to watch for me.
>>107491712>main loss>a single artist that takes forever to draw
>>107491774He was a chumbud before going Phase. Even when he did get into Phase he was exclusively a Gura animator until she retired.
>>107491867who dat
>>107491867I'm not surprised that the glorified tech demo has this take
>>107491833>>107491856You continuing to try to shill them here is retarded. Their retarded fanbases are their biggest detriments, including you faggots.
Well bros… what are /our/ thoughts?
https://x.com/ShitpostRock/status/1998070727463845963is he right?
>>107491867Pfffffffff let's be real codemiko only has this take because she's still salty that her >Vtubers will become super realistic Vision never took off
>>107491867The closer you are to flesh streamers more out of touch with the industry you become.
>>107491867>"no bros, you should let vtuber antis enjoy the vtuber fandom that i'm not even in"bitch would be happy posting in okbh
>>107491949imageboard
>>107491856Insulting Hololive isn't going to make people watch Phase.
>>107491833So true phasesis!
>>107491816>2018/2019Who is even that?
>>107491974nvm please don't post twitter screenshot actually
>>107491922>Their retarded fanbases are their biggest detrimentsI agree but what can you do
>>107491974bu that's how they got people to watch Pippa tho
IRyS lost her robot pet...
>>107491867Can we make a new term for lovelive-esque all-girls-school live 3D performance CGDCT vtubing?A term that counts Kinzuna AI but not the homos or the peanut.
>>107491627Wait wtf, this is the first time i heard of it.
So why even lie about being sick and having "import recordings" when all that means is that you're getting railed so you don't feel like streaming? Nimi is such a shit vtuber it's unreal.
>>107492017Virtual idols?
>>107491953I don't know how the fuck she thought that would take off. It already costs the equivalent of a gaming PC to get a good 2D avatar, using her setup is flat out not economical and her model delved too deep into the uncanny valley to be marketable.
>>107491867Add it to the the wall of shame
>>107492032Why do /#/ virgins keep thinking sex has anything to do with streaming
>>107491816Didn't I read somewhere she was supposed to be currently like a 19yo zoomie?
>>107492032She's a subhuman attention whoring grifter.
>>107491660Holy shit, he is a PUSSY.
>>107491867>expressing yourself digitally however you pleaseNo, not at all. VTubing is about an anime girl avatar, if you want to mess with that and have some ugly 2D + 3D fusion abomination as a model, then just be fleshtuber at that point. Like nigga, the wheel has already been invented.
https://x.com/kyomu_utsuro/status/1998181190554009825any idea who this is
300k DORYAAAAAAAAAAAAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-DlVoLizX0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-DlVoLizX0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-DlVoLizX0
>>107492032She already said she wants babies, what else do you need? If you dont care about that and still like her, stop asking retarded shit and wait for the next stream.
>>107492017Idols?
>>107492050The obligatory congratulations from the actual nominees is whatever. The wall of shame should be shit like this
>>107491867Twitch streamers all have this misunderstanding. Streamers don't get to decide what viewers want to watch. They can only decide what they want to stream
>>107492055damn somebody was getting prime cunny then
>>107492085i like the part where they call me a pervert
>>107491660Honestly huge respect meanwhile mori still has never apologized for all the numerous times she has said the n-word
>>107491816Lunlun, i will make you a full nelson enjoyer.
>>107492047I do have to say her recent mocap demos with accurate object tracking she has done are cool as fuck since it seems to use minimal hardware and doesn't take up much room. Too bad the person behind it has the personality of a piece of cardboard lmao.
Next graduation incoming good riddance
>>107492050That's just common courtesy, the shameful part is the ones rolling over on their back to accept all the insults
>>107491990This fat fuck from Nijisanji>>107492055That would mean she was already a whore at 12Remind me Gaou
>>107492132isn't the one who does all that stuff her husband?
>>107492103>>107492138It's a Morischizo that keeps posting the one you replied too even though she has the most meh response. Dude is mad he can't drag her into it.
>>107492047She has the same mindset as tech boomers who worship complexity and graphical fidelity
Is holo witches the most cursed management project https://x.com/i/status/1998226102570164233
>Trying to involve Mori, when Mori herself can't speak in behalf of Hololive to defend vtubing without being suspended.You're not being slick.
>>107492184No. Vsingers are. 100% of vsingers produced by Cover became more successful in their music after they became regular vtubers
>>107492168I don't really care who is doing it in teh end. Just think the tech is cool and could be something soem holomems would want to use
>>107492184did you memoryhole Umisea?
>>107491867famous notvtuber codemiko
>>107492208umisea was Marine's project not management's
>>107492054Because why lie when everyone knows the truth already?Also>keep thinking sex has anything to do with streamingShe literally made herself getting plapped the part of her lore, so it actually has to do with it A LOT in this case.
7k for a kusoge afternoon sea/jp hour is not bad
>>107491923to be fair she got the Vedal buff / raid after they finished the hardcore Minecraft run today. usually shes around 2-3k iirc but i guess many Vedal and Fillian stayed after the raid for contemplating the runs etc. Usually i dont watch crellys stream for the only reason that the Eyes of the Model make me uneasy. I fucking hate the Eyes.
>>107492032this but saba
>>107492079No but he/she sounds based
>>107492237seethe
>>107492178I once again thank the Walled Garden for keeping Hololive largely away from this giant ass meltdown.
>>107492201still holowitches, at least vsinger didn't cause 3 graduation due to workload
>>107492237you say vtubers aren't streaming because they're HAVING SEX when having sex takes like 20 mins
>>107491712Dudul didn't do very much aside from Gura content and still not that much overall.
>>107492274Why does that horse have a such a nice ass
>>107492281Because the three Vsingers in question are arguably three of the most tenacious members in the company. They had to deal with challenges far beyond any other member and persevered. Cover is lucky they found such talent and didn't lose them in their early years
>>107492050I completely see why Mori and Mouse made a post about it and congratulated him. Otherwise it would made em look pissed etc. But the others are just riding the "hurr durr pnut deserved it wow" Train.
>>107492263that's the truth. It's why Connor and Asmon are trying way hard to demonize "Idol Culture". It makes it hard for them to propagate that LA Clique's agenda.
>>107492263the first one is based and a fact, why the fuck nobody can act professional
One of the only times I've seen Scarle engined.
>>107492272???Where am I seething in that post?
So like the peanut thing is just gonna be allowed here? I didn't expect much out of /vt/ mods, but this is a new low.
>>107492292a week is not enough when im done with mio and her roommate
>>107492103
>>107492315Mori moved on and didn't even know it was happening because they're focused on Fes. IM on the other hand...
>>107492263he's correct but probably a LARPer
>>107492350The mods are practically the same kind of people who watch him and hate vtubers so it makes complete sense
>>107491627>giving clout to doxxcuck accountsIf you're gonna be a retard and post rm shit at least post the images instead of making people give views to these faggots
>>107492350err... did you memoryhole the AO threads/generals during this board's inception?
>>107492359Mousey needs to keep the drama alive, or else the raids will stop.
>>107492292i was fucking okayu for the entirety of her 2 month break
>>107491668I get the weirdest vibes from Grimmi and have all year. I'm really glad she's not a Holo.She has this passive-aggressiveness to her (she's desperate for people to think she was invited to join Holo no matter how much she pretends she doesn't care) and on top of that she seems like an unironic low-IQ rube, so it's a really bad combo. She would have been a disaster as a Holo, like I'm imagining ERB except also able to be convinced by any passing sleazy weirdo to leak company secrets or holo doxx.
>>107492103>hes likely a pretty great streamer>sees clip of him saying faggot>cancel arc
>>107492292No, I'm not saying that. My point is why even lie when you officially said that you are in a relationship?
>>107492423the answer is simple, she isn't lying
>>107491635...Yes? Two of the ones that quit were known to be more likely to do collabs than solo streams.
>>107492412You've never watched Grimmi
>>107492359well yes why shouldnt she. The Circlejerk award is just as much of value like the Trashcan outside my Apptmt. She could care less about it. I was surprised she even made a post about it.
IRyS really likes robots for some reason
So, if these vtuber antis are defending peanut going "faggot" once, what is different with Mori saging soft-N once, as her RM, in a joke?
>>107492457>JP hoursNo lol
>>107492457It was a JP hours stream retard. Who was going to be up for that?
>>107492350Did you memoryhole the leaked? They hate vt because it's not real streamer.
>>107491627theres no lunlun in hololive so i dont give a shit
>>107492079Look like BVTM
>>107492457Let's not rewrite history
>>107492474IM can't even see Connor essentially spelling it out for her, but her actions make it seem that the integrity of the circlejerk awards needs to be defended.
>>107492420All of Peanut's fans that I've clicked on are super right wing, like middle aged gun nut/culture war types, but in the way that makes them hate anime/otaku culture for being gay instead of like the RWers who love anime
Watched the rest of the Nerissa stream since I had to leave>6-12 months sometimes before they even think about asking again for permsWowzers no wonder EN covers are so rare. Mentioned Down by the River as the exception since Larian was responsive & enthusiastic. And she's still asking about getting Lillium back RIP
>>107492445I couldn't give two fucks if she's lying or not, but the thing is it's not the first time. Remember the "I will touch some grass" and everyone knew>grass = husband
>>107492490>>107492496It's a 1-off stream, HoloGTA was also at JP hours and they joined.
>>107492121Me too I want a Zako asmr
>>107491627who would want to fuck this thing
>>107492315The Mori ones gives me>Oh mouse congratulated this dude I better do the same Vibes
>>107492523Once this comes to light, We're going to eat lots of popcorn while they mald themselves fighting each other.
So when is EN5 coming out? Before or after fes?
>>107492511Not rewriting history. Two of them were known for not collabing and the other two were known for collabing.
>>107492480There is no difference. It's just pure tribalism. I like my guy so its ok. I don't like that guy so fuck him.
>>107492541>She's lying!>I don't give a fuck if she's lying or not!Nimi Derangement Syndrome
>>107492480From everything I’ve seen the fps community doesn’t care about shit like calling someone a faggot or nigger but they hate vtubers with a passion they consider them all pedo bait or men using voice changers so they’ll do anything to shit on vtubers even if it means contradicting themselves
>>107492470I've watched her Tarot streams where she "tee hee I'm so innocent, oh god I'm shocked, these card pulls are so bad!!! yabai~~" shits on and doomposts about Holo while clearly favoring the company she actually likes and watches (Nijisanji). And I've watched her bait with his "I was invited to join Holo but I didn't because ~scary info~" schtick she's been doing all year to stay relevant and in the conversation.I don't buy her hippy-dippy all-positive act. She seems to me like she low-key hates Holo, or at least has convinced herself to hate it to justify making the biggest mistake of her life. I don't understand why somebody who doesn't like idol culture or Japanese corpos would want to join the idol culture Japanese corpo in the first place. I think she's annoying and I'm glad I don't have to tolerate her as a Holo.
>>107491627NePoLaBo fans have the opportunity to do the funniest thing right now.
>>107492542Who's they? Gura/Fauna definitely wouldnt have. Mumei/Ame, maybe and thats a hard maybe.
Fauna wouldn't even start her stream 2 hours later to play with the others for ENReco and these retards think she would join a JP hours collab
>>107492605I mean you obviously know who I'm talking about - two of them joined HoloGTA and the other two didn't. Obviously it's a maybe but it's not a "definitely not."
>>107492523What is peanut opinion on C.kirk?
>>107492523This is one reason I think the peanut will have a short shelf life. His fans seem the type to move onto the "next thing" followed by the "next thing".
>>107492567It’s kinda already starting if he wins TGA award theyll probably pull the knives out for mr peanut
>>107492597>I've watched her Tarot streams where she "tee hee I'm so innocent, oh god I'm shocked, these card pulls are so bad!!! yabai~~" shits on and doomposts about Holo while clearly favoring the company she actually likes and watches (Nijisanji).Complete and utter bullshit
>>107492594>brazilian schizo melty
>>107492359Focusing on Fes, doing interviews about her Gachiakuta work, recording for her album, accidentally triple booking her day intending to stream over it anyway, literally anything other than caring overmuch about the awards show
>>107492523Yeah there's a big schism in online right wing communities of people who love anime and those that hate it. Might be a generational thing, the older you are the more likely you're against it because it'll turn your son into a femboy or some shit
>>107492623Can't even read my post to tell that I'm not talking about Fauna baka. Was Fauna more likely to collab than do solo streams?
>>107492564she's cute
>>107492636Called him based during one of his drunk streams
>>107492480Difference is when mori said those things she was 19-20
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehJLVYuOEO0https://x.com/it_zzzy/status/1997522652790137155
>>107492649Riddle me this bro, why did she even bring up this Holo topic out of nowhere? Why is this so stuck in her craw? If she's all positive vibes and has moved on, why the fuck is she talking about this out of nowhere, baiting more conversation about it? Wasn't this all like 1.5 years ago?
>Donnie's having a melty>defending Gura>saying she's the Ken-sama of vtubing>Not in Japan, but in Sweden>Not being an idol, being lazy.THIS IS SO FUNNY.
>>107492632We know exactly why they joined holoGTA.
>>107492698damn, liggers are just taking it from all sides
The most likely scenario is she didn't get into Hololive in the first place and is bitter that Cover didn't think she was good enough
>>107492721And what reason was that in your opinion?
Seeing some people disappointed that mori didn't speak out against peanut think too many still think mori is the same rebellious yab machine she was in the early days of holo
>>107492594>point out that she's lying because it's not the first time>N-Nimi Derangement SyndromeYou could just stop replying if you had no arguments left and not act like a retard for no reason
>>107492746Again, stuck in 2021
>>107492705>why did she even bring up this Holo topic out of nowhere?She literally answers this when she talks about itYou're talking so much shit for someone who never even watched what you're talking about
>>107492746That's dramafags wanting hololive to be involved instead of watching from the sidelines
>>107492742Last memories before leaving Holo
>>107492754She's not lying though
>>107492480same reason why "It's okay when Hololive does it". it's okay when Peanut does it.
200K DORYAAA!!! https://youtu.be/tVKgDbElMEc
>>107492778This to me sounds like>WW1 sides wanting to involve the US.Who are the Central powers in this scenario? (You) decide
>>107492795Okay then, so be it. She's telling the truth, you're right.
>>107492480That was a decade ago when she was a teen still. This dude is in his 30s and it happened earlier this year.
>naplings raid
>>107492761I just rewatched it.>I'm gonna say it because everyone has been confused for a very long time about this, and I don't think any of this is NDA...So... Out of fucking nowhere, because "everyone has been confused about it"? Everyone has been confused about it because she has vagueposted and baited about it for over a year! She literally caused all of it! Her new revelation is that fucking Mowtendoo and/or Melody's pimp boyfriend are bad people she shouldn't have listened to? Are you fucking kidding me? why was she even talking to them about her supposed imminent Holo job?Anyway dude, long story short, you clearly like this girl so have fun watching her. I'm glad I don't have to deal with her as a holo. She's a fucking disaster, you ask me. Biggest bullet dodge in holo history.
>>107492761>>107492649>>107492470Why are you so scared to refute his point? He clearly explained his position and you’re here going nuh uh that’s not the real Grimmi1!!1
>>107492792But Gura and Fauna were also in the same situation and didn'tMy only point was pointing out who would potentially be up for JP hour streams. Not really out of the question given past degen hours streams.
>>107492865I understand, I'm just showing how people can be so ignorant other people being human, it's funny.It's as if something made it okay to be assholes to each other. And it aint Christianity.
>>107492882are you announcing it? thats the first mention on this thread
>>107492480Is this the peanut defense force entering? No one here cares about the homo. Have fun with the twitch/ligger crowd though.
>>107492746Meanwhile holo and their fan having fun and making meme with that maori dude.
>>107492470Why the fuck would anyone?
>memory game>IRySuh oh
>>107492079>I am an active/former vtuber/staff suuure lmao
Bettel is literally the sole reason to watch this failed GTA RP whose organizer is not even managing nor streaming, Bedbug or whatever. The whole town has to adapt to the incredible RP he created or nothing happens.
>>107492892>So... Out of fucking nowhere, because "everyone has been confused about it"?Yes>>107492904He doesn't have a point, he's literally making stuff up to trick people who haven't actually watched her
>>107492925No, I'm arguing on behalf of Mori. I'm showing how they're hypocrites.
>>107492910so only Mumei
>>107492961So why was she talking to Vshojo's schizo c-suite about her holo job again? Is that the behavior of a stable and wise woman, a good hire for holo? Or the behavior of an erratic idiot that would have been a disaster?How do you even have this conversation? Did she message them on discord out of nowhere and volunteer the info? Was it over drinks at one of their parties? what the fuck?
>>107492961It's not that deep sis. Grimmi is irrelevant, same as every other Twitch rando. Nobody cares except you
>>107492985Mori doesnt give a shit, she typed a tweet and went on with her life.
Who the fuck is this Grimmi everyone is suddenly talking about?
>>107493020>So why was she talking to Vshojo's schizo c-suite about her holo job again?Because she's friends with him I guess? Who cares?
>>107493052>t. Faggot baiting people to continue talking about her.
Remember the ancient time where people just watch vtubers instead of picking an oshi and shitting them up on 4chan
>>107492480Didn't Pewds do a migo on a bridge?I don't like this guy for his kit or because he's useful club for antis to attack holo with but this isn't career ending. He'll probably just lose the award now since the corporate sponsors can't have that kind of 'ism and have to learn how to dogeza naked like a real vtuber.
>>107493098Yeah, they go to towa now.
>>107493026That's what I >>107492187 said.
Believing grimmi = retards
>>107493007butt
>>107493069Which one was she friends with, the sleazy fuck pimping out his girlfriend as a camwhore for the past decade, or the freak millennial man-child who had to be warned to stay away from female vshojo talents for sliding into their DMs?
>>107492842...who has the most retarded Kaiser Wilhelm equivalent?
https://x.com/NIJISANJI_World/status/1998241366808400155 Announcing NIJI Mix EN' Match! in 2D × 3D 】A show beyond dimensions is coming your way! Livers will form 2D × 3D pairs for a fun-filled party packed with challenges and activities! Hosted by your MCs, @Petra_Gurin and @Seible_2434! Dec 13 (Sat) 19:00 PST NIJISANJI EN Official YouTube channel>NijiEN keeps getting cool stuff>HoloEN is once again treated as second class citizens for Expo and Fes
>>107493020From what I've read from her fans on reddit she's incredibly naive and gullible, gets tricked all the time from her supposed friends probably as a result of growing up in a cult. If she somehow managed to join Holo she would've 100% ended up in a situation where she leaked confidential info and gotten fired.She still trusts and works with the guy who fucking scammed her with hot sauce because he's "autistic just like me!".
>>107492892Didn’t she still vague post? because she didn’t actually say it was hololive just saying “biggest company” which could mean both holo and niji depending on perspective. This is quite shrewd as it saves herself from trouble and misled others.I still don’t buy it anyways. While everyone assuming she could be 5th justice, but it’s much more likely that she was 4th denauth.
>>107493126How would I knowWhy are you even asking me
I think the funny thing about this Gimmi stuff is that every piece of info, false or otherwise just solidifies why no one would want her near hololive
>>107493125Ass even
So this year really was another 2022:resurgence of homo collabs with Shiori turning on unicorns like Kronii did back thenno new gen and a lot of graduationsa lot of days with 1 or no EN stream all dayYagoo learned nothing and is incompetent at best
>>107493128Ironmouse, definitely Ironmouse.
>>107493052A whore and this guy >>107493084 oshi I guess
>>107493052Menhera Twitch indie trying to bait retards into thinking she was some secret fifth Justice member who dropped out. Dramatubers fell for the bait and started reporting on it.
>>107493143You're accusing me of making shit up but you yourself seem like you don't even know what you're fucking talking about. Why are you replying to me in the first place?
>>107493098
>>107493131>no nijijp>no watchI don't watch shitter branch.
>>107493069Breaking this supposed NDA to talk about getting into Hololive with a Vshojo exec is far worse than you think because they are direct competitors.She dug herself into a hole that disproves her own rrat by revealing those two details. She must not be under NDA otherwise she would not be admitting that, so she must be lying about being under one.
>>107493131kek they have to mix 2D with 3D because they can't or won't afford all of them 3D
>>107493133I miss ayameposter.
>>107493185>they can't or won't afford all of them 3DHoly black company
>I'm starting to think the doctor might be evilIRyS, that is usually a good starting spot with any sci-fi horror
>>107491668>implying in any way or form that 2 of the 4 ENs that left were mistreatedthat woman behaves like a nigger
>>107493164Oh I see, dramatubers will fell for anything though, as long as it will click.
>>107493138of all the worst traits a holo could have, being a gullible moron while having a ton of sleazy industry connections whispering in your ear are like literally the worst and most dangerous possible. I'd rather have another Rushia sociopath than someone like that.
Really says something that even non-Vtuber and more just anime adjacent creators and such are calling out the bullshit and how community and Vtubers themselves shouldn't just let themselves get rolled over by tourists.
>>107493157>homos collabonly ERB and Shiori, fucking retard.Meanwhile Nimi and Saba are dead :)
>>107493176A bit disingenious to treat these the same.HoloJP talking about their trips is peak CGDCT.
It's herehttps://hololivesuperexpo.hololivepro.com/2026/en/
>>107493131wait why is Scarle doing it in 2D if she already has 3D? Is this an humilliation ritual for not being part of the clique?
>>107493173You are lying. You made up a bunch of shit about her, so I corrected you, because I dislike liarsI still don't know the answer to your questions>>107493178>Breaking this supposed NDANothing she said was under NDAShe could actually be sued for slander for saying that though if they really cared
>>107493178All of her point lead to nijisanji, including the specific VA position corroborate by cyyu, another nijisanji almost hire VA, it was all fallen apart conveniently after selen shock and black stream.
>>107493238it's common twitchfag mentalityprostrate yourself and beg for scraps from more popular streamers because that is the only way to be popular on twitchthey don't realize the vtuber audience only exists on youtube. twitch vtuber viewers are just the usual twitch audience
>>107493272>All of her point lead to nijisanjiYou mean aside from the fact she literally said it wasn't Nijisanji?
>>107492079>had a bf>former corpo vtuber/staff>live in East Asia but probably not a native>retweets holo stuff so most likely a holofan>the way they typed feels like someone who was canceled beforeJust from browsing her TL. Who is this really?
hopefully this whole situation is a huge redpill for Cover (it isn't, they are retarded)
>>107493219Nijien is a 2nd class citizen unless you got favor by the clique.
>>107493283
>>107493262You never corrected anything he said, just brushed the whole statement as false without explanation.
>>107493283>attentionfag liar says it wasn't nijiwhy would you even believe this kek
>>107493131Wont give them 3D or fly them out to be in 3D. Imagine being treated worst than small corpos.
>>107493262>You are lying. You made up a bunch of shit about her, so I corrected you, because I dislike liarsWhat did I say that was a lie?I literally watched her fucking tarot streams, my opinion is that she doomposts Holo in them while downplaying any bad cards for Niji. That's my opinion, but it's not a lie. And the part about her bringing up this Holo stuff out of nowhere is literally just the fucking truth, she could have let all of this fade away but she keeps bringing it up. "Everyone is confused", because she has intimated that she was joining Holo but decided not to for ~reasons~ on multiple occasions and is now all but out and out openly talking about it. Exactly what of what I said is a lie you disingenuous fuck
>>107493303Yagoo is desperate for validations from the fleshies
>>107493286>I would rather let them suffer than let the unicorns have a potential win
>>107493286>so we are all noticed that stars boys are really getting less and lessBros, genuine serious question, will homos be dead before 2026 ends?
https://www.youtube.com/@KairyuCrocodileapparently JaidenAnimations
>>107493296Probably staff/management from of the early EN corpos (2020-22) that imploded, lots of those were tied to small JP groups.
>>107493251let the segregation continue
>>107493140she literally said it's not nijisanji literally like 20 seconds before "new" revelations
>>107493338Unless Yagoo gets ousted from his own company, no.
>>107493338I think they are going to pre Roberu 3D levels of relevancy
>>107493296>Like JP vtuber and hate EN vtuber>Last follow: Flowglow, Phase JP, Phase connect and CoverIdk
>>107493326You pretended that she was shitting on Hololive when she was respectful of everyone she talked about
>>107493338no
>>107493338No, we've been over this. They're just going to get the same treatment that the homojps have
>>107493360Homo schedule is really grim but they don't deserve any better
>>107493389but she was
>>107493283>"fuck, if they knew i applied for nijiEN they will think i'm a fucking idiot that hates selen">>107493307
>>107493389>respecting Hololive>while saying she went back on her decision to join because she heard 2 of the girls were mistreatedwhat a respectful comment, I agree
>>107493323You understand that literally everything you're talking about is just based on Grimmi's word so if you decide she's a liar there's no reason to assume she applied to any company at all
this game IRyS is playing is dogshit
>>107493249That pic has twitch thot culture in mind to be fair, and if I were to see a twitch slut talking about her totally rad vacay to Florida or wherever with her streaming buddies I'd be thinking she's just flying around for sex.
>>107493329Kind of shows the mentality. When I see stuff like this I wonder if they only are """fans""" of homos because they have this hate boner for unicorns for some reason.
>>107493408>>"fuck, if they knew i applied for nijiEN they will think i'm a fucking idiot that hates selen"This is dramafag logic, nobody would care about this in the real world>>107493413That's from a totally different stream and also not disrespectful of Hololive
>>107493238This is the same cycle that youtubers faced when they gained popularity and slowly got injected into normal media campaigns. Then it was streamers getting involved in normie brand sponsors.
>>107493338Maybe the branch won't close, but that won't stop some of them from leaving or getting fired
so an indie says she was going to join Hololive and you believe it because...?
>>107493251>For EXPO 2026, we are planning to sell new fast tickets to prevent people waiting overnight at the venue or entering the venue late at night. We will release details about how to purchase these tickets shortly (around mid-January), so we thank you for your patience.>Those who have fast tickets will get priority entry into the venue from 9:00 am according to the number on your ticket. Interesting
>>107493430Since she works in the virtual world, it's not unreasonable
>>107493140might be vague if you missed the entire vshojo implosion, it's very clear she was talking about hololive. I don't don't actually know, Ironmouse(?) tweeted that vshojo were actively trying to hurt hololive and therefore she's not sure if the rumors were true or not.
>>107493430>not disrespectful to Hololive>while implying they are a black company
>>107493430>lying>not disrespectful of Hololive??
I'm extremely tired of Grimmi discourse. the only reason this chick is relevant at all is because she keeps baiting about her supposed Holo invite for attention.
>>107493238EN vtubing is basically picrel and if they remove hololive they are stuck in step 1
>>107493283>"she'll never lied bro"Anon, she have a brain damage, i don't take her word seriously. Just follow the logic, timeline and her action of what happen and it doesn't line up with her word.
>>107493462That's not implying they're a black company, she's saying that's just what she HEARDThis is fucking Indian izzat logic again
>>107493435because it would mean that hololive is bad and she managed to slap them in the face and reject them last minute
>>107493461>I don't don't actually knowholy stroke. if you don't actually know*
>>107493466It's because nijinigs are desperate to convince everyone she dropped out of Justice despite the timeline perfectly aligning to her leaving because of the black screen stream
>>107493428They have shown this countless time and it's probably the driving reason why they would rather sperg out about unicorns than watch the homos
>>107493469If you believe her, then everything she says lines up If you don't believe her, well there's no reason to discuss it is there
>>107493369>>107493390>>107493395
>>107493475She is claiming she believed it to be true. Are you retarded?
>>107493402Their expo streams did significantly worse in 2025 than 2024. They should be happy they get an area at all
>>107493435Liggers hate Hololive, so they believe her…
>>107493475>dropping out of a gold opportunity because of something she "heard"please make it make sense
https://files.catbox.moe/y9j8us.mp4basically
>>107493504That's still not slandering the company Ranjeesh
>>107493178It is a pretty big red flag in her whole story. Was this guy just lying and spreading rumors to every indie he could, which could be true given everything.Or did she just basically admit she can't be trusted. Be funny if it turned out she did get in but got booted for immediately leaking shit.Story seems off to me to
>>107493430This is grimmi or the mod grimmi is allowing to cum inside her
>>107493431i remember politicians trying to use some vtubers for their shill campaigns kek
>>107493475Apparently it was enough to make her drop out according to you
>>107493509>implying she would get accepted to begin withhahahahahaha
>>107493508something she heard from a company paying shitposters /here/ kek might as well say she was reading rrats here
>>107493535Yeah, what's your point?
>>107493307>VA jobIt line up with that indie vtuber CyYu said about niji looking for specific VA roles, just before nijien exploded.
>>107493432Will they just be ghosted by management, just be there streaming for bots, hoping that someone will send them whatever so they can eat and eventually leave because there is no future for them? How I see it.
we missed out on the sacred timeline...
>>107493506As long as Dubai don't have more privileges than girls, Starmin (read Holoanti) will never be satisfiedThey have the same mentality as the Nijisis
>>107493545Why would she drop the opportunity of a lifetime if she didn't believe what she was fed?
>>107493544Imagine telling your indie friends you didn't join because you read on 4chan that the reason Gura wasn't streaming it's because of management
>>107493575Who said she didn't believe it? You aren't slandering someone by believing a rumor about them
>>107493580And now that she's free from her corpo shackles she streams every da--oh, oh no...
>decided to leave because of a rumour after months of training with the others JusticeWho's going to believe that ?
>>107493307There’s more than this tooHer graduation announcement was on February 4th 2025.https://x.com/GrimmiVT/status/1754346610023452931?lang=enSelen is terminated from Nijisanji on February 5th 2025.https://x.com/NIJISANJI_World/status/1754459182412222481?lang=enElira does her black screen stream on February 12th 2024 at 8pm EST. Grimmi posts her “Anti-Graduation” at 10:30 pm EST.https://x.com/GrimmiVT/status/1754346610023452931?lang=enShe’s trying to clout chase by saying she was in Hololive but all signs point to Niji. Also her original graduation date (March 3rd) wasn’t synced up with the rest of Justice (March 10th 2024).
>>107493286>i also think we should prioritize the boys growth fitst and foremostHoly kek, why would Cover prioritize them in the first place? It's like a farmer prioritizing a cow which is sick and skinny and overall close to dying over a healthy, strong, chubby cow which gives tons of milk.
I'm the type of NTRfan who is into shy, submissive and introverted vtubers who turn out to be massive sluts who sleep around like they're trying for an olympic medal.
>iris out of nowhereliterally just one fucking day without her doing this shit.
>>107493611ok
>>107493554Their only escape is to join FSP, but that makes the sisters who lurk here furious
>>107493595No one sane would believe it.
>>107493611Okay, but do you like the humiliation or stealing such girl?
>>107493600(me)Here’s her canceling her graduation https://x.com/GrimmiVT/status/1757238172063559948
>>107491616https://youtu.be/tYmxPWlaQzcEN songs in the Hololive weekly top 100 Nov 30-Dec 6 (1st week songs excluded):>87) Prisoner (FUWAMOCO) - 44,629 views>81) KING (Gawr Gura/Mori Calliope) - 46,022 views>78) Kaibutsu (FUWAMOCO) - 47,482 views>77) All for One (HoloEN) - 47,613 views>75) Go-Getters (Mori Calliope) - 48,783 views>74) Daidaidaidaidaikirai (Hakos Baelz/Ouro Kronii) - 49,085 views>73) Bunny Girl (Kaela Kovalskia/Ouro Kronii) - 50,175 views>65) Love Me Love Me Love Me (Nerissa Ravencroft) - 53,292 views>49) I Wanna Be Your Slave (Justice) - 64,098 views>45) Orpheus (Mori Calliope) - 67,453 views>30) Team Tomodachi (Advent) - 88,201 views>18) ROCK IN! (Koseki Bijou) - 113,572 views>17) TAKEDOWN (AmaLee/Bao/Mori Calliope) - 113,967 views>14) Silhouette (Promise) - 139,794 views>11) Ash Again (Gawr Gura) - 160,602 views>7) Gold Unbalance (Mori Calliope ft. Nakajima Kento) - 175,596 views>1) LET'S JUST CRASH (Mori Calliope) - 2,053,198 views New:>Propose (Hakos Baelz) - 219,473 views>Zako (FUWAMOCO) - 136,830 views>How It's Done (Bao/Monii/Nerissa Ravencroft) - 48,415 views Notes:Kira Killer and Dynamite fall off the list. Prisoner (FWMC) rejoins the list. Silhouette makes the list in its first eligible week. Let's Just Crash was the #1 viewed song from any Vtuber for the last two weeks in a row.
How come this ligger discussion always ends upIn seething about saba?
>>107493286>if not they'll be forever overshadowed by capitalism greedI can't tell if this a dumb commie or a highly sophisticated psyop
>StarsEN is already on the level of FSPgrim>Flayon the cutestGRIM
>>107493609 (me)The strong, healthy cow is obviously the girls
>>107493639I think the main appeal is just the gap. It's like gap moe, but for NTR.
>>107493600erm no, her clearly completely obviously nijisanji-related panic and backtracking must actually be about Holo somehow because uhh, mowtendoo told her about Gura's graduation (over a year before it happened when she may not have even decided and certainly wouldn't have told some random vshojo asshole)Also she still refuses to use the word "Hololive" even though she'll vociferously and by name deny it was related to Nijisanji, almost as though she'd expose herself to legal risk by using the word Hololive
>>107493655Is the "white sticker" like a joke that there's no sticker so it's applied to everyone, then some people just scribbled circles anyway?
>Grimmi>Unironic Nijisis>Friend with Holoanti like MTD or ApekWe really dodged a bullet
the biggest problem with the "I dropped out last minute" is that the Justice girls met in Japan and recorded vlogs, sorry nijifags and ligcucks but nothing about her claim aligns with reality. not to mention that she retired earlier than the Justice girls's RMs
>>107493678>Also she still refuses to use the word "Hololive" even though she'll vociferously and by name deny it was related to Nijisanji, almost as though she'd expose herself to legal risk by using the word HololiveYou know that points to the fact that it was Hololive because she signed an NDA with them right?
>>107493700The NDA she broke to talk to Vshojo? You can't have it both ways
>>107493655I can't believe fsp won against homo.
>>107493694She dropped out 4 months before their debut not at the last minute
>>107493716You aren't breaking an NDA by saying you're applying to a company
>>107493723retard
>>107493700So she has an NDA with hololive even though she denies having an NDA with Hololive and would be breaking it anyway, because judges don't accept "wink wink nudge nudge" kindergarten technicalities in contract law?Or is she avoiding slandering a giant company by insinuating stuff without actually being explicit about it
>>107493655They start by stealing fans, and then they go on to steal the Talents :)
https://youtu.be/waHnTlLRROwhttps://youtu.be/waHnTlLRROwhttps://youtu.be/waHnTlLRROw
>>107493721FSP paid to leech and showed homosisters they didnt have to be second class citizens
>>107493655>the runts of the runts the ones with the most votehow?
>>107493700No ? You can't lie and say you were going to join Hololive.
>>107493750>So she has an NDA with hololiveIf she made it past auditions then she>even though she denies having an NDA with HololiveDid she?>and would be breaking it anywayNothing she said breaks NDA
It's dead. Can't imagine they're happy they made 8 unique 3D models that got used for two 3D Liveshttps://x.com/holoWitches/status/1998226102570164233
>>1074937853D model reskins cost a few thousand dollars to make
>>107493739How do you know she just said she was applying to Hololive?
are we going to have a timeloop about that literal who indie every month?This post clearly explains why she was joining Niji and not Holo >>107493600
>>107493760she's so sweet...
>>107493671>>107493611I know lots of shy girl secret slut scenarios, and lots of vtuber secret slut scenarios, but I feel like I don't see them combined as much as you'd think.
>>107493354Yeah that's come up a few times. Guess it really is her. Wonder if there will be any buzz when she actually debuts
>>107493785all the more reason to fucking make concessions so talent wont leave
>youtube featured does nothingthen explain how this video has been recommended to me for 2 weeks, I'm not even a member
>>107493799The Grimmifag is still coping
>>107493799just a coincidence broooooo
>>107493785Lamy and FBK just joined, this will burn their group projects forever, and then they complain that the same girls get the gigs, you can barely trust second army as a long time member, let alone the runts.
>>107493768starmin don't watch streams, they love the concept of dubai but not dubai themselves
>>107493797How do you know she didn't?
>>107493817I'm paying for her youtube promotion
As a flips Homos fan, what are you guys gonna do now? Asmond daddy on our side.
>>107491660>says faggotSisters mad>backtracksChuds mad
>>107493338Next year might be their last expo appearance before they're just not put in any event with hololive at all, but they'll probably continue to hang around and Cover won't boot them outside of any individuals who manage to get themselves terminated.
>>107493837Unlike you, I haven’t made any claimsNow answer the question.
>>107493785Kanata is irreplicable and probably in ways that can't be seen publicly too. Should've cowtowed to her, fucking retards.
why are homobeggars having a melty? They are still part of the expo what's the issue?
>>107493772https://youtu.be/YmGK7KidudI?t=1236>I don't think any of this is technically NDAI guess she could be implying she has an NDA but somehow spilling all these retarded beans ISN'T NDA because she's not saying the word "Hololive" even though she's basically all but screaming "IT'S HOLOLIVE" as hard as she fucking can? again, a kindergartener's understanding of contract law.She's lucky she's small potatoes and not worth pursuing for NDA breach or slander, whichever of the two this retarded mess is.I hope she enjoys her 2 minutes of attention but it's not going to incline her career.
>>107493694I actually wish we could see how the model design looked if there was ever a 5th Justice member
>>107493871I haven't made any claims eitherNeither of us know what she said, she could have easily had a conversation about this without breaking NDA
>>107493845Isn't that streaming culture also? You cant say pokimane fans are any different from vtubers in terms of mental illness
>>107493809She's a 7k average streamer on twitch, it will be funny if the vtuber will be her debuff.
>>107493845Is IronMouse joining Mythic?
>>107493880What's she's saying is grounds for being sued for slander yes but it's a really weak case and not worth it like you saidI don't think it's breaking NDA
>>107493609>It's like a farmer prioritizing a cow which is sick and skinny and overall close to dying over a healthy, strong, chubby cow which gives tons of milk.Worse, it's a cow which is sick and skinny and overall close to dying despite 6 years of trying to make the cow a healthy, strong, chubby cow with no progress whatsoever.
>>107493845You know in the vtuber bubble this peanut shit is the biggest, but outside the roach king has his own far bigger fires to fight
>>107493354Is she going to shit on fans if they draw porn of that model?
>>107493760Cute
>>107493785You can't really do shit like this (HoloAlt) without making someone sign a 5 year contract because them leaving suddenly a year or two in fucks it up for everyone else.
>>107493845>spend moneyBRUH, there's like a ton of shitty apps with those base models that let you customize them that's how a friend started and then after getting money she got a l2d model
>>107493925Lunlun is a whore that got her personal twitter leaked where she talked about getting plapped by her boyfriend(s)
>>107493943Speaking of HoloAlt, the most retarded mistake was not using Star Flower more
>>107493881Unlikely because Justice was designed as a 4 man gen with their Chess theme. A potential fifth member would have to predate that theme and therefore a lot of the other girl’s design details (Ceci’s spear, Gigi’s gauntlets, and Raora’s god eyes).
>>107493886>I haven't made any claims eitherHere's your claim >>107493739Now answer the question
>>107493965>Justice was designed as a 4 man gen with their Chess themeYou're aware that there's 6 chess pieces right?
>>107493845Lmao. Asmon is still seething about Hololive's existence. I don't blame Dokibird, but Selen's exit from NijisanjiEN had big consequences. One of them is poisoning the well for corpo vtubers in the West.
>>107493845>Saying like asmonrat opinion is relevantKek, Idol culture keeps going in Holo and he can seethe about it
>>107493959wasn't she exclusive? why a whore?
>>107493872I noticed she was kinda of the main character of HoloWitches
>>107493950Hell I'm sure hundreds of people have tenma's model sitting on their hard drive now ready to start from it as a base since it got leaked
>>107493977She could have said it before she applied and signed an NDAShe could have said it AFTER she applied and said something like "I'm thinking about joining Hololive" even though she already had
>>107493785>8 uniqueit's only 2 with parts and color swap
>>107493998Her boyfriend was mad at her for sleeping at other dudes places. Implication being he thought she cheated on him.
>>107493891Seems like she might have missed the hype window for all the vshojo fallout
>>107494007Lazier than RX-78 recolors?
>>107493979You only count the 4 special pieces, kings aren’t even designated points. Though Grimmi makes an excellent pawn (for Vshoujo)
>>107493925who?
>>107493845why are fleshing pretending e-thots aren't >doing GFE>forming parasocial relationships with fans>exploiting male viewers
>>107493977>>107494005This is the dumbest shit, do you really think hololive has an NDA so draconian they can't even talk to anyone about it?
IC bot...
>>107494025sleeping at other dude's places makes it clear she's cheating lol
I don't care about Grimmi or Asmongold I'm just glad my wife is back and streaming again
>>107494057>do you really think hololive has an NDA so draconian they can't even talk to anyone about it?Yes. That's not unusual at all. That's the type of NDA you sign at pretty much every company
>>107494081>That's the type of NDA you sign at pretty much every companyOkay bud
Asmon's meltdown if Miko wins will be legendary, but this isn't the timeline for it.
>>107494071no...
>>107494051because racism, when they say idol culture they are saying japanese culture and japanese bad
>>107494057The existence of a new predebut holo gen is absolutely under NDA dude, it's literally what they're for. What the fuck do you think would be covered by them if not that? It's extremely important info, it lets competitors make counter-moves or strategic changes.An NDA saying>You cannot talk about being in Holo or the existence of this new HoloEN genduring the predebut period is not only totally reasonable, it'd be insane not to have it
>>107493283Justice are based on themes with Advent and chess piece and each Justice are paired with Advent as Raora with FWMC, GG with Nerissa, CC with Biboo, and ERB with Shiori, Advent vs Justice is an official thing
>>107494106You realize they could have just made that up after Grimmi left? Why is this thread so fucking stupid?
>>107494095Yeah specially XQC since hes in the nomiantion
>grimmi >Male collaber only makes projects if she can invite males>Only plays debuff shit even worse than Shiori>Woke as fuck>Full of toxic positivity loves to defend scumbags in the vtubing community Be glad she decided to leave
>>107494095Nah, I don't care about him.This thread's meltdown when Miko lost tho, that I'm looking forward to.Extra funny if she lost against Charlie, because I want to see if Mori has the ball to congratulate him.
>>107493878y-yeah hololive girls should feed holostars
>>107494051none of these retards know what "parasocial" actually means
>>107494123retard
>>107493878>They're getting even less total screen time despite an extra day being added.>Clown and blue homo aren't appearing.>El Silencio 2: Boogaloo Electrico
>>107494005So you did make a claim? Good.Or maybe she's lying and she was going to join Nijisanji, but without proof, we don't know anything for sure
>>107494129curious that you keep insisting she was accepted at all
>>107494133It's time to quit, Griefous.
>>107494159Yeah you don't have an argument do youYou can't think
>>107493878they keep pushing the lie that homos never got shit they got everything the girls did and none of it helped make them populareat shit beggars
>>107494133Doubt we would care if Miko loses, would be expected.
>>107494123>"chess pieces are 5! she obviously was in!">"uhhh they made up that since grimmi was long gone"...
>>107494170Seethe ligger.
>>107494167Yeah, maybe, no reason why she wouldn't just say it was Niji if that was the case though
>>107494057>do you really think hololive has an NDA so draconianI think she can say “Hololive” on stream, but the other anon is coping
>>107494104>doing GFE>forming parasocial relationships with fans>exploiting male viewersThe problem?>doing GFE>forming parasocial relationships with fans>exploiting male viewers>idol cultureAAAAAIIIIEEEEEEEE
>>107494198She can't say she got into Hololive
>>107494147so what do fleshies think parasocial means?
>>107494123Because they debuted in mid june and she quit in mid February. That’s 4 months to redo a gen theme, model designs, rig the new models, change Above Below’s music video, and edit her out of all work done so far. Highly improbable especially since Justice was in the works since late ‘23 according to Gigi.
https://thegameawards.com/nominees/content-creator-of-the-year
>>107494105>What the fuck do you think would be covered by them if not that?I think the NDA tells them to not make anything public, I'm sure they can talk to mom and dad about her future
>>107494133>Mori said she really likes Charlie and brings him up from time to time>Mori's RM gets a collab with Charlie>Never speaks about him againwonder what happened
>>107494206basically the meme of "thing, thing japan" but in reverse
>>107494123Cover works at a glacial pace do you really thinl cover would redo everything in a couple of months
>>107494225>redoing a gen theme>for one personWho do you think Grimmi is?
>>107494224falling in love with a female streamer
>>107494123>2 big titted onee-san singers>2 brats>2 autists>2 retarded mascotsYeah, guys they made it up after she left it totally makes sense
>>107493878They really want to make Hololive a Nijisani 2.0
>>1074942254 months is ample time to do that
>>107494251Never meet your heroes moment
>>107494133It will be hilarious if Miko wins but she'll get significantly more hate as well and nobody actually thinks she'll win. But at least I'll have some fun around here if she does win.
>>107494269that's literally what fans of e-thots do
>>107494243>For a streamer or content creator who has made an important and positive impact on the community in 2025.what was burnt peanut's impact? lol
>>107494251I'll give you even more: From that day onward, She had been pissed off by Twitch.
>>107494123>>107494225It would have been easier to find a new girl to replace Grimmi than to change everything.
>>107494262Grimmi is the Gura of Justice just like Flayon is the Gura of StarsEN!
>>107494247Do you think leaking your new Holo gig to the sexpest CTO of the seething rival schizo corpo is the same thing as telling ol' mom and dad that you got a job over the dinner table
>>107494133see>>107490436
>>107494293Saying faggot in 2025 and still getting sucked off by qtcinderella
>>107493928He won't have the guts, he's a spinless faggot
>>107494308>It would have been easier to find a new girl to replace GrimmiNot if the onboarding process takes a year and they were already 6 months into it
>>107494243Kai is obviously going to win, he’s an industry plant.
>>107494312if it's a private conversation yes
>>107494293Trying to normalize calling people faggots again. I can get behind that. But I still voted Miko.
>>107494330Oh so you too have a child's understanding of contract law, got it
>>107494298I would believe you but "Mori" still attended a Twitch shit event ONCE after that and THEN she decided to hate it
>>107494314QT literally defended a guy who said he wants to beat up and rape her cohost cause she’s scared of the black twitch crowd.
>>107493878>let's give holostars out support>support in question>melting down on xitter
>>107494253That's honestly the more common version of the meme now
>>107494275IRyS took 2 years just for a simple redesign
>>107494298Naw, that happened later when twitch fucked her out of thousands of dollars of payouts lmao.
>>107494057It's funny when talking about NDA, nijisanji have the worst rep, not because of enforcement but shitty administrative paperwork. Most of the leaked from past interviewers are due to wrong name, wrong date, they just doesn't seem to care to proofread it. So i wouldn't be suprised if grimmi did interview for nijisanji, and she can lied/denied it by naming them because they can't enforce their NDA and just ride the wave with *wink wink big company not niji*
>>107494322It's better to delay a few months than to have only 4 girls.
>>107494348Someone invited her to the twitchcon diddy parties and she noped out
>>107494336>Trying to normalize calling people faggots againNo, he backtracked on that immediately. He is also a faggot.
>>107494355Things at Hololive CAN take a long time, but they don't have to4 months is more than enough time for one song and one non-animated music video
>>107494343Yeah I'm sure hololive has some national defense tier NDA
>>107494243is there a bot engine for these I heard some gacha niggas used bots to win last year
>>107494362You think they were going to debut a week after graduating?
>>107493878>It's just as well they aren't getting more screen time because I wasn't going to watch anywayAm I reading this right? Why are beggars like this?
>>107494051When people say "idol culture" generally they just have that image of the Perfect Blue dude in their head, or the Oshi no Ko guy. You know, both these cases in fiction of idol assault which have someone heavily manipulating them from behind the scenes. But they never bring it up, mostly because a lot of them only read summaries.That's not what they'll say when pressed, but you can see all their statements deriving from it centering around the 'danger' to idols. Despite the problem being incredibly more pronounced with respect to celebs and e-celebs. Find one idol who tried to have a fan stay over at their house thinking they were friends. For streamers this has happened multiple times.
>>107494355I have no horse in this race, but you can't compare IRyS who was under the direct control of Omega, who to this day still gets most of her projects delayed by management, to the amount of time and attention post-Jap EN gens get
>>107494322>They could have changed things after Grimmi left there was still time>But there was no time to give another girl her characterlol
Speaking of Twitch is Kiara still using Twitch or did she give up on it?
>>107494362What's the point in telling me that, do you think I work at Cover?
>>107494290yeah, but that's not what parasocial relationships actually are, that's only part of itparasocial means you are feeling a one-sided relationship with a celebrity does not necessarily mean romantic or sexual
engine?
>>107494351Is ludwig that cucked to still want to be someone so fucking spineless. It'd be a shame of he turns into another idubbz dog walked by average pussy
>>107494389Brother, "don't leak trade secrets to the competition" is the basics of NDAs, not some sort of NSA-tier security clearance. You literally sound like a teenager
>>107494406>>But there was no time to give another girl her characterGrimmi was already many months into the process, and they also might not have another candidate they liked
>>107494407she dual steams
>>107494374well at least I got to see her fat tits jiggling and her cute bare feet
>>107494392Fan vote is almost irrelevant, worth 10% of the vote
>>107494419she is the only holo in any branch streaming and the incline paused when she went to idol meetinglooks about right
>>107494392TGA isn't a popularity thing, it's a jury thing.Basically, if someone wins, it's because the judges know him.
>>107494407>last twitch stream 8 days ago
>>107494401Or that girl that shaved her hair, eventhough most people know what actually happened.
>>107494425Nobody in /#/ knows anything about the real world, their knowledge of business, social interaction, basically anything just comes from watching Hololive and gossiping about shit with their brown friends
>>107494425>"don't leak trade secrets to the competition"And the trade secrets being?
Just accept it holokeks, Grimmi was totally in and then turned it down in an epic moment and Hololive was so disappointed, and she's totally benevolent and at peace about it which is why she keeps bringing it up unprompted every few months like clockwork
>>107494408Grimmi is lying, so the discussion is useless…
>>107494439Grimmi never was in the Holo onboarding process lol, it was Nijisanji>>107493600
>>107494407>everybody complaining about a huge workload>add nightmare setup and interaction problems for streaming in 2 platformsIt should have never been tried in the first place
>>107494493hey be fair, Finana considers making it into the final round for Myth her biggest accomplishement
>>107494476The existence of a new HoloEN gen imminently debuting. Are you retarded?
>>107494439if we believe in her(lol) she's only 2 months in
>>107494442>>107494450then it's already over for miko lmao
>>107494465She pulled a Rushia by acting out immediately after getting caught with a boyfriend. She could've been like Sasshi and naked dogeza'd
>>107494476Your biggest competitor is going to debut a new gen?
>>107494419Looks natty
>>107494527that may well be the only thing she has ever been right about
>>107494520How does anything posted there prove it's Nijisanji and not Hololive
>>107494556Is is, but it says a lot about what she thinks about being a niji
>>107494439Advent and Justice are thematically matched nigger. What do you think it's more probable? That the Grimmi timing aligned with Niji imploding or that the 2 gens just so happened to fit thematically and could be flipped to look completely fine in 4 months?
>>107494409It's funny to see that the peanut thing's "actually this qualifies as vtubing because its an avatar" is basically the same as the "actually parasocial relationships can also refer to things like feeling a connection with Conan O'Brien on TV" but the same people who push the former will be infuriated if you push the latter and accuse you of being disingenuous because "you know what I mean".
Reminder that Yagoo killed vtubing through his obsession with getting into the mainstream
>>107494559Are you retarded?
>>107494386to think for a new theme from scratch and then start planning and producing it after? i don't think so
>>107494569>Advent and Justice are thematically matched niggerNo they aren't, there's nothing thematic about their designs at all, they just gave them matching lore, which is something you could come up with in 5 minutes
>>107494493Reminds me of old kpop stories of girls claiming they almost made it into the final Girls' Generation lineup and bring it up every once in a while to get some free clicks.
>>107494573Yagoo always wanted to be like Niji in how they’re more normalfag friendly in Japan, he’s never hidden that sentiment.
>>107494573Trying to stay away from the mainstream is what would've killed VTubing, not the other way around
>>107493131>can't even give 3D to the main participantsPatheticsanji strikes again, mogged even by a dying small corpo
Again, who tf does Grimmi think she is if she thinks she caused Justice to change themes, both Mori and Gura were selected for Mori and Gura.
>>107494583You can write a song from scratch in a week bro, not to mention there's no need to do it over from scratch they can just modify it to take her part out if that was the case
>>107494573It seems YAGOO recently has been getting a bit too comfortable, I think it's time to remind him that he's just a face without a voice, a puppet...
I don't know why you don't simply call her a retard for not taking the opportunity to join Hololive over shit she "heard" instead of trying to defend the point that she never made it in. Like, who the fuck im their right head would turn down Hololive? I'm sure none of the graduated/terminated members regrets joining besides maybe Aloe. And even if she didn't like it she could have joined to grift for one or two years and then go back to indie
>>107494650Based, Yagoo should be fired in the next investors meeting.
>>107494641At least this project isn't getting cancelled like HoloWitches...
>>107494605>>107494643its really just one nigger arguing with different anons to push "the indie who reject hololive" shit
>>107494662Grimmi's a decent sized indie already so the popularity boost isn't that important
>>107494671>>107494675And there's the mask off.
>>107494573whose post is that?
>>107494662Taken at face value, ignoring the he said she said, what makes more sense: a literal who with zero prospects got into Hololive and said no... or she didn't get in?
>>107494662If she was in, she should just say it. Say the word Hololive. She's implying it so hard she's practically bending over backwards, and she says it wouldn't be under any NDA. So just say it. Why won't she say the word Hololive? Say the words "I was accepted into Hololive but turned it down". Literally just say it
https://x.com/jftc/status/1998281249392369695
>>107494696One of the "gatekeepers "
>>107494662Mint started this trend among indies of talking about their Hololive rejections. Grimmi is capitalizing on that by implying she actually made it in.
>>107494692Here's your mask lil bro. >>107494650
>>107494683>Here's a list of the people I want to leech fromthanks Mint
I'm just catching up on everything and it's very clear that if Grimmi did indeed drop out, Gigi was her replacement. That explains why Gigi graduated later than the others.In any case I'm happy we got Gigi instead.
>>107494712>a literal who with zero prospectsshe is a decent sized indie, much bigger than everyone else who got into Justice>>107494714saying it would be breaking NDA
>>107494681
>>107494755>a decent sized indieanon... she is weaker than the fucking homos
>>107494744Gigi was hired in November, retard.
>>107494744GG got hired late 2023 you fucking dumbfuck, your precious indie is a cloutchaser, deal with it
>>107494764thank you for backing my point up with data
>>107494662That's wrong, the graduated members are far happier now.
>>107494732But Mint and the others say they were rejected, this retard implies she was the one that rejected Hololive
>>107494755what NDA ? She is lying
>>107494810If she got into Holo then she signed an NDA
>>107494821And then broke said NDA by talking with Vshoujo
>>107494573>>107494792why do you cut the name out?
>>107494755>she is a decent sized indiewhat is this... who are you? why are you trying so hard to push that angle lol
>>107494792Are they more successful and taking part in bigger projects, though? Are their names more prestigious?We all know the answer.
>>107494839She can talk about the topic without breaking NDA if she doesn't share details
>>107494845>YoutubeShe streams on Twitch
>>1074948212 years long NDA before debut? One that is lax enough to talk with VShoujo?
>>107494845She was at 500 CCV before she graduated which is enough to make streaming your full-time job
>>107494792>the graduated members are far happier nowI can be happier at my new job without that meaning I hate my previous job or regret ever having it, are you underage?
>>107494821We know very well that this is not true, she started talking about it when people invented the grimmi = 5th Justice.
>>107494889Just like some holostars then, no wonder they won't quit
>>107494792>Name cut offTry harder
>>107494886NDAs last forever>>107494900She talked about it without providing details that break the NDA
>>107494918Holostars have to give half their money to Cover
>>107494889Being janitor is also a full time job, doesn't mean janitors aren't literal-who level IRL
>>107494764>sub-2k twitch post-drama buff>would be sub 500 on youtubelol
>>107494842So you can't harass true patriots like Donie or Ernoul.
>>107494950AIEEEEEE as a homostar fans, we should boycott cover for this.
>>107494959500 CCV is enough to make a good living doing something funvtubers can make a living off 200-300 CCV even without any oil barons
>>107494950and then they get tokyo min wage anyway
>>107494842>>107494921HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>1074949310 clues that suggested it was Hololive >>107493307unlike now, very weird :)
>>107494984DESPITE
>>107494999>0 clues that suggested it was Hololive>biggest vtuber company, is not Nijisanji, graduated at the same time as the rest of the Justice members
>>107494984Yep
>>107494984
>>107494984How many Phase members have graduated out of health issues thanks to the heavy workload?
>Subaru getting strays from asmongoldDidnt expect to see that today
>>107078375It's Shachi's autism.
>>107494984KEKAROOO
>>107495017>retard didn't even understand the post he's replying to
>>107495029The fact that Dizzy HASN'T is some kind of sick twisted fucked up miracle
>>107494974"Make a good living" is very subjective. $3K a month might be enough to make a living for some, while for some others would want $20K+
>>107495017Like I said >she started talking about it when people invented the grimmi = 5th Justice.
>>107495053My indie oshi from a first-world country has 200 CCV and just went on a Japan vacation
>>107494719This has nothing to do with vtubers? They're all tiktok eceleb management corpos.
>>107494950Small price to pay to meet the likes of Suisei FBK Even Sora everyday
I didn't get what "goycattle" meant until I saw the peanuts fans in the twitter arguments. 10 million guys sitting in cars with sunglasses on who do nothing but retweet giveaway raffles
>>107494764 (me)Can someone pull shondo's tweets around shiteaters graduation? IIRC she was the first to heavily imply hololive
>>107495066People invented the Grimmi = 5th justice literally when it happened years ago, she just confirmed it recently
>>107492350Meidos love Asmongold on /v/ so a /vt/ version would be allowed here
uh oh looks like the sales aren't doing too hot
>>107493611
>>107494683https://x.com/moricalliope/status/1998286472156488011Cute MoriMinto
>>107495097Do you call this advertisement or begging?
>>107495107yeah Mint won, honorary holo forever
>>107495097If you combine every nijiEN concert there’s ever been’s attendance, TakoTori have already doubled that with this one concert
>>107495097But they sold out?
>>107495040Re:Zero protagonist?
>>107495097realistically, most people are buying for Ina not her
>>107495107MemintoMori is their ship name
>>107495137>this shit branch is less shit than this other shit branch solid argument>>107495140nope, they aren't doing good at all
>>107495140No longer. Ticketmaster released another wave>>107495097Scalpers won, after all?!
>>107495167Kys napling.
>>107495097>Literally sold out>Sales aren't doing too hotRetard
>>107494984Phaseliggercuck will never beat the allegation.
>>107495156even if I loved Ina it wouldn't be worth it having to endure chickenvoice for her
Grimmi is taking away valuable thread seethe real estate from Nimi
>107495167>107495169>another naplings raidgrim
>>107495169>Ticketmaster released another wavethey never sold out.>>107495181>literally sold out>Kiara begging KFPagpag to buy venue ticketsnot literally then
>>107495192nah that would be retarded. this is Ina's lucky break to skip 3-4 years ahead in the concert queue thanks to Kiara's menhera. all takos should be going
>>107495140She apparently didn't look into what happened with Mori's sololive and fell for the false sell out.
>>107495207Like I said, it's not worth it enduring the mememe girl act to watch Ina
>>107495167>>107495169>>107495202>>107495211Nice raid, retards.
>Being the only holo streaming means you can perpetually inclineI don't think so, anons
>>107495193Shes an appetizer so the other shizopost looks delicious again
>>107495232Like Nimi ?
>>107495232>perpetually>it literally stopsblindchama...
>>107495232>Hololive EnglishLooks natty to me
https://x.com/amanekanatach/status/1998268625539699081
>>107495232looks normal to me, EU is waking up the longer it goes and the nocturnal NA fans are realizing IRyS was streaming after they were done playing vidya
>>107495263Don’t post this retarded traitor hereAlready forced the other JP girls to clean up her mess so she can go stay in kson’s streamer house
>>107495268GG definitely has a take but is smart enough not to share it now that she is in Hololive
>>107495225Don't group me with those faggots. She would have known about the stupid way ticket master does tickets if she talked to Mori about it. It will sell out since it's not that many tickets just takes work to get dumbass fans to realize it isn't sold out.
>>107495263Black company.
>>107495232Oh shit, IRyS gold?
>>107495268>Nerissa anti peanutWhat happened>ERB pro peanutIt’s like she’s programmed to be as dumb as possible on every issue
>>107493845>you are flip let's just sing https://www.youtube.com/shorts/c7newPQwX58
>>107495300Ticket master is shit
where do these gays come from
>>107495156is ina only on saturday?
>>107495268>Mori>pro peanut with that sarcastic as fuck replylmao
>>107495323>doesn't even know Holostars existsounds based to me
>>107495263Taso... stop blaming yourself retard...
Next Phase invaders list got leaked:>mint>chromu>henya
>>107495263it was inevitable, kanata was basically the project manager for holowitches
>>107495355>congrats >LOLOLOL MY QUEEN THE BRAPPER IS DUNKING ON HIM OHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>107495363En5 will have an rts loli
>>107495346Ina is both days. they both are to prevent people from buying one day to target their oshi. to be fair, they would do this no matter who is involved because it maximizes sales
>>107495399Damn seanigger, make it less obvious you are mad as fuck you can't drag mori into this lmao.
I want Mori's big white ass on my face
>>107495401i'd settle for a srw loli
>>107495401Yes it will
>>107495399>congrats>LOLOLOL walk of shame, she is glazing peanut hard
>>107495385Henya despite literally fucking Heavenlyfather would somehow not be the most blacked Phasewhore
>>107495431My POV
>>107495461Oh, IRyS just got a new boost of the engine
>>107495385nopewhonope
>>107495461
https://x.com/takanashikiara/status/1998290821863653729https://x.com/takanashikiara/status/1998290821863653729https://x.com/takanashikiara/status/1998290821863653729
>>107495461Is Roberu the only homo left that can sometimes get ok numbers?
>>107495494Seems normal
>>107495438I don't care who's side she's on because it's irrelevant to Hololive, just stop saying she was sarcastic when she wasn't >>107495452where did I say she's glazing him?
>>107495505>beggingyikes
>>107495385>chromuWho?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfhJK602XdE500 views to 1m
>>107495097there are still a shitload of tickets availale and not just resale holo girls need to fucking stop jumping the gun and learn how ticketmaster works before calling their show sold out after the first wave of tickets got dropped now most people think they missed their chance and won't even try and get tickets
Peo 10k DORYAAAA
>>107495468>Henya despite (headcanon) would somehow not be the most blacked Phasewhore
>>107495321that may be true but they still need to learn to work with the system since nothing else exists in the US
>>107495534LMAO thanks Kiara for making this a flop
Next annoying game arc is going to be Vintage Story btw
>>107495534Kek this is gonna look so pathetic Just like the last showCover needs to face that they’ve simply had too many dramas at this point, they’re poison in the west
>>107495534Yeah, Mori didn't even claim hers sold out early and still had a hell of a time getting people to understand there was ~400 tickets left still. That tweet Kiara made is going to be annoying as hell to combat.
>>107495431Post the rotated version kami-sama
>>107495534>Kiara can't even sell out a 1800 seats venueholy grim, melty into graduation incoming
>>107495534Blame ticketmaster for being a dick
>>107495534Damn, GRIM year will be the 2026 for Hololive.
>>107495544>Peo is 10 times bigger than her boyfriend Flayondamn go girl, get something better already
>>107495461Botrys...
>>107495599>Been saying this on repeat since 2022
At this point holos as well as Cover just need to accept there's maybe like 6 girls in all of hololive who can sell out these venues:MoriSuiseiGuraFaunaMarineand adjust their expectations accordingly, they're not as big as they like to think they are.
>>107495630Don’t forget IRyS and GG
what a boring bait
>>107495630Anon, the thing is months later.
>>107495573why do you say that? i tried manifesting it for months and it didn't work, also it will be too hard for the holoshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teihaBRttcA
>>107495578exactly mori was promoting her show and pushing tickets basically right up until the start of the concert
>>107495573Good! Lots of potential for kino gaming
Did IRyS start fighting Melania or something?
>>107493600I don't think she's lying.It had to be 4th justice mem because nobody would say "It's not Niji" and "The big one. The actual big one" and "The one with eight letters" with a straight vtuber if it was bullshit.
>>107495650Irys could bately sell out limited time merch
>>107495630The fundamental issue is ticketmaster. That being said, the other problem is forcing a concert for a pair who has one girl with the lowest album sales in EN and another who has no album history
>>107495654All of the ones I mentioned above sell out venues in literal minutes of sales opening.
>>107495650Did this nigger really just say GG?Is this what the youngins call ragebaiting because it worked on me.
>>107495654the average holo fan that would go to concerts already assumes that the show is sold out because of kiara's tweet and them not being able to get a ticket during the intital wave
>>107495671Ah, I see a fellow RubixRaptor enjoyer as well! Good tidings anon
>Naplings appear>Thread is suddenly shitGRIM
>>107495693ESL
>>107495710
>>107495683>>107494419>>107495232schizo got mad his shitpost fell flat and decided to take matters into his own handsfigures
>>107495650Gigi could sell out a 1400 capacity
how come connect the world and breaking dimensions had no problem selling out? how come all these issues with ticketmaster only started this year?
>>107495735Guess who graduated this year...
>>107495735>connect the world>ticketmasterretardchama
>>107495684Ok she wasn't lying, she's a fucking retard for not joining then
When will Cover shareholders drop sth like this?
>>107495746Got scammed by vshojo
>>107495732gigi couldn't even get people to listen to the song she wrote for her deceased father, I don't think she's selling out any sort've venue
>>107495693>batelyLol melty
>>107495735>connect the world>ticketmasterDo 3 seconds of research before making a fool of yourself.
>>107495735no Gura no buy
>>107495684>because nobody would
>>107495743ok so if large non-ticketmaster venues do exist why doesn't management just get those locations???
>>107495715>three weeks to sell out limited time merch>music views declining with each releaseKek
>>107495683okay now that's the engine
>>107495759You’ll see
>>107495771perhaps because every event has sold out
>haha her father is dead so funnyunderage retard
>>107495750Hopefully never, these retards actually have blatant trolls and bots in the document
>>107495779It's been the engine for the least 2 hours
>>107495762Using mumei's corpse for views didn't work out huh
>>107495725yeah, funny that it started a bit later after the post was made
>>107495723
>>107495777>concedes Enna is an irrelevant whore
>>107495750Why would they, so they can get ignored like always?
>>107495771There are like 5 of them and are high in demand just because they aren't owned by ticketmaster lmao. We got lucky with previous concerts.
>>107495798Melty #2
>>107495813>nimi 5.8k>irys 5.7kKek
>>107495810VV is not sexy
>>107495750Ahh is stuff like this why they fired the leftist members of the FF14 global team?
>>107495798>bately
>>107495810
>>107495764I remember connect the world going off without a hitch and was the largest single day concert holoen ever held so like why did they never repeat that location why did they downgrade to smaller locations overseen by ticketmaster?
>>107495830>can't defend Enna so he brings other vtubersuh oh!
do you think hololive has peaked?
>>107495852Dumb cunt
>>107495852Is it just me or does Kanata seem like a self-absorbed bitch?
>>107495828>>107495835>>107495850>sub 549k views on the gehenna coverKEK
>>107495630couldn't you at least have added the girls who already did sololives to make your bait believable?
>>107495841no gura no buy
>>107495850And still gets his numbers wrong
>>107495671>>107495671If solo stream the game is hard, but in a big collab it becomes a piece of cake.Also I remember that channel you linked was famous for ARMA 3 shenanigans right?
>>107495861No
>>107495871>still unable to defend Ennagrim
>>107495750It would delve in a pissing match of who drops the biggest google docky between the "the stars don't get any support, let them collab with the holoLIVERS" and the "TOTAL HOMOSTAR EXTERMINATION" factions.
>>107495852>doesn't care about how her friends will react to her sudden out of nowhere graduation notice>doesn't care about all the projects that have to cancelled or retooled because of her leaving wtf is her problem?
>>107495841It was bought by ticketmaster. We ain't joking about how much of a stranglehold they have on everything.
>>107495650Irys gg duolive next?
So...>Peanut's sideHololive and its fansPhase ConnectIM>Anti Peanut's sideVarious large ensemble of liggers and indiesSome renegade Hololive fans>Neutral/UndecidedEx-HolosMintDokiNijisanjiThoughts? Which side is /#/ on?
>>107495889what's there to look forward for the future? it seems they've done everything they could already
>>107495577NIJISEETHE
>>107495861In 2021 yeahWhen a lot of the awful decisions (like HoloEarth and HomoEN) were made which led to this slow decline
>>107495861yes>>107495889explain why not?
Since ennacuck is melting down, I will mention that IRyS' album and EP sales are the second best in EN after Mori. In the whole company, she is only behind Subaru and Koyori (both of whom had gacha) for girls who don't have sololives
Looking at current Fes line up compared to last year is just sad>no Mumei>no Shion>no Gura>no Ao>no Kanata>no Haachama>no KoroneWhere did we go so wrong?
>>107495935>Where did we go so wrong?IPO
>>107495872Japan sololives don't count, it's cheaper and they can pay people to attend to inflate the numbers.
>>107495891>using mumei's corpse didn't save her musicKek
>>107495935>Where did we go so wrong?Tempiss debut
>>107495852I recognize that I'm an EOP that barely pays attention to JP but everything I've learned of kanata in the past week and has done little to endear me to her
>>107495928where's the sololive? do you think she will do one
>>107495935flowglow mogs all of them except kanata and korone
>>107495750the current investor consensus is to fire yagoo. do we really want this to happen?
Just checked twitter and it seems that a lot of people are turning on IM, Mori, etc for supporting Peanut guy after it was revealed he hates vtubers and said slurs beforeAnother holo yab right after Kanata's announcement...
>>107495959omg sisters
>>107495909baffling post
>>107495947*devis
Would it be smart of hololive to setup their own concert hall in america?
>>107495959Show one that mentions Mori that isn't a twitter nigger.
>>107495750why squere enix?
>>107495940>even more retarded reply see this is why you're a failure of a shitposter
>>107495866>>107495870>>107495898>>107495948>announces that she's leaving>Holobros instantly start antiing herLike fucking clockwork
IRyS is emotionally attached to a robot with a cute face on its display...
>>107495980I always disliked Kanata now I feel vindicated
>>107495959Twitter already thinks Mori is a racist white woman
>>107495935>lazy whore>lazy whore >lazy swedish whore>lazy homowhore>Actual loss>Schizophrenic retard>Actual loss
>>107495980this is us with fauna, gura and mumei.
>>107495980>Holobros
>the resident Schizos running wild in this thread again.. Guess I'll play some AOE2 for a few hours then come back later
>>107495910Marriage with me
>>107495980This is not nijisanji sister
>>107495958I would say yes if only because I 100% know whoever would replace yagoo wouldn't immediately shitcan holostars, scrap holoearth, and fire half of the useless 700+ employees cover has dicking around doing nothing but collecting paychecks
>vtubing community is eating itself alive over stupid shit>Holos keep graduating with Korone and Haachama being nextMan...everything is just kinda grim nowadays huh
>>107495980why holobros? why bros?
>>107496010accurate selen size
>>107495683>>107495725I wanted to see if it lined up with any other engined streams. It kind of lines up with Peo? At least at 16:30, Peo's doesn't seem to change much at 16:00
>>107495992We like gura and Mumei tho
>>107496015this
>>107496018is it really grim?
>>107496018IRyS is streaming so it’s not that grim
Best she can do is 2.2mil views with kanauru slopPffft
>>107496015But they wouldn't tho
>blah blah vtubing>look up what the fuck they're talking about>its just twitch flesh dramakekWhy is it always this?
the peanut spams stop and we got this grad shitpost instead, are they just taking turns?
>>107495991Last samurai cuck. Enjoy Korone fucking off to be with her "mom" kek
>>107496043Who?
>>107495838
>>107495991Based
>>107495871>bately
>>107496069>are they just taking turnsHe doesn't know
>>107496010>la ograAhh, don't post that again!
We HoloChads hate graduated quitter whores, period. If Korone decides to throw away this heavenly job and become a traitor whore cunt then we will start hating her too, simple as.
>>107496069Burger asleep to Yuro waking up to Seaniggers coming home from work
>>107495017>Phasecuck can't readGrim(mi)
>>107495949Hard to say. It's almost certain that she couldn't have one before Myth because of EN seniority autism. Now that Kiara and Ina are getting theirs, she should be able to.But at the same time, they would probably combine all of Promise or just her and Bae so that they don't have to give two EN members with good numbers their own sololives.Cover is allergic to EN success for some reason
>>107496102Based Pebble GOD dropping TRVKES
>>107496093>nimi 5.8k>irys 5.7kKek
>>107496056Not sure about the other things but I'm absolutely convinced the only reason the homos are still alive is because of yagoo's protection
>>107495515Seems engined
>>107496015the replacement would be kaneko. a faggot worse than yagoo. good luck.
>>107495524MOCOCO BOOBS ARE TOO BIGFuwawa is hot
>>107495750dont be so excited, square enix might actually get the EA treatmentrecently some private equity bought popular JP fonts and jack up the price 1000% screwing a lot of developers
>>107496107Eh, if Mori didn't have her own sololive in NA already it almost certainly would have been a Myth one. The next one being a Promise one wouldn't be a surprise. For soem reason I'm thinking Mori will have a third one in Japan in 2026
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qf5ydk5ube4irys getting a new pc
>>107495834>>107495892>>107495958>>107496015>Yagoo got kicked out>They shitcan the homo>But all the girls are now squeezed 200% harder in the name of profitAlso if you think they're gonna drop Holoass I have a bridge in Shanghai to sell you, because that kind of shit is what investor would like. Big, grand, useless shit that has no attachment with the talents at all. Just look at Niji
>>107424416Incels will start shit, vtuber or not unfortunately
>>107496165investors like Shanghai bridges?
>>107495980kanata would anti herself
Meanwhile in reality.
Is this real?https://x.com/sl3epl3ss_/status/1998127608610148579
https://youtu.be/Sa3Izl5uI7c
>>107496165>Just look at NijiWhat am I supposed to look at exactly? Their metaverse? Their state of the art 3D studio? Their record label?
and just like that miko clique schizos instantly disappeared along with earthquake
>>107496195>peanuts roommate looks like thisoh no no
>>107496130>No linear incline>Incline only lasted less than 2 hours>The drop after the peak wasn't linear eitherIDK, that graph seems fine
>>107496208Their big ass 0 USA concert.
>>107496187Mori and oshi mogging irys
>>107496231WORLD TOUR BABY
Why does this thread hate Niji when they're doing all the right thing for numbers AND treating their top talents well enough that they don't leave and aren't overworked? Y'all would love it if Cover started treating the homos like Niji does their bottomfeeders, and even more if Cover only focused on concerts and shit instead of throwing money into metaass slop. Kuzuha probably has like 5 managers all to himself and doesn't need to lift a finger for his stuff and y'all saying that's a bad thing to imitate for hololive?
>>107496240>mori and oshiEnnaSTDcuck have spoken.
>>107496269I know, right?At least chumbuds should've sided with Niji since top chuuba is treated like king there
>>107496269>if Cover only focused on concerts and shit instead of throwing money into metaass slopholos had more concerts than niji
>>107496269Doesn’t niji have more graduations then holo?
goodnight yesterday thread
>>107495573Nah if anything it will be Hytale. In minecraft EN girls always liked adventuring more then building or surviving so it's basically made for them.
>>107496269
I don't really care who wins TGA but if Geoff rigged the win in favor of Miko imagine the seeth it would cause to fleshstreamers and peanut that way we can call it quits
https://files.catbox.moe/91mnvk.MP4
>>107496288They have more graduations than hololive has talents, including the homos. They basically feed everyone into a meat grinder to prop up their top 5 talents.
>>107496300Not watching that
>>107496300sus link
>>107496287Niji had 11 talent-focused concerts this year (sololives, not corporate tours). How many did holo have?>>107496288Most of the graduates are the equivalent of homos, would you really care if a bunch of 3-views disappeared from holopro?
>>107496273>concedes mori and mousie mog irys
>>107496187Wasn't this song confirmed botted?
>>107496269Kek, anon is living in another universe it seems.
>>107496300he's 100% right
>>107496330>Most of the graduates are the equivalent of homos, would you really care if a bunch of 3-views disappeared from holopro?So it really is quantity over quality at niji
>>107496269If Niji were nothing but girls, I wouldn’t hate them. Back in 2018-2020 I watched as much Nijisanji as I did Hololive. But since it became a sausage fest, I’m inclined to consider it one of vtubing’s greatest cancers. Men don’t belong in vtubing. And now we have ironic faggots with zoomer-aesthetics getting labeled vtubers who have every intent to destroy what we enjoy.
>>107496346you can bot song?
>>107496195Wait are people allowed to doxx peanut?
>>107496346No, it was just tossed into a better algo when it hit 1m. A number Suisei songs have done the same thing.
>>107496365Yeah, he’s not a vtuber by his own definition
>>107496361he's being retarded but the kpop sisters are experts on the subject
>>107496365He said he's not vtuber though, so it's not doxxing.
>>107496195So hes just caseoh using avatar
>>107496361You can bot anything,. but it was be prohibitively expensive to bot 250k+ views a day for a month on youtube. You could never get a return on it.
>>107495750>get rid of the homos>beg every girl who had graduated to come back>reduce the amount of work placed on the girls
>>107496340the mouse isn't hololive stop trying to put that leech with mori
>12k viewers and only 48 likesbaka
>>107496269it's just because it's male dominated that's literally it if nijisanji had the exact same practices and business model but all the top livers were female this board would rally behind them
>>107495974TIcketmaster would just use one of their underhanded tactics to force Cover to squeeze into it. They are in control of almost every other one for a reason.
AI created wojak meme depicting nijifags
>>107496300he was out of line but completely right
>>107496416Cratcuck seethe
>>107496348Their top liver has the freedom to just do what he wants and stream long hours without doing extra homework because his managers do all of it for him. He's treated like a king. You're saying that you don't want Cover to treat holos like queens instead of making them do things outside their job scope all the time?
>>107496300literally nobody in years since this statement was made has ever been able to make a valid argument against what conner said
>>107496163>why don't they just produce more?IRyS... she really is sheltered.
>>107496499I bet you could convince her to download RAM
>>107496163irys's computer was shit when she debuted and she STILL hasn't upgraded
>>107496499that's not a bad question thothey literally can produce more and decided not to because basically fuck you
>>107496476there is nothing to argue since hes wrong initially, we've seen how much the ID make and even towa confirmed they're not all rich
>>107496537supply and demand
>>107496551they literally can increase supply
>>107496562which increases price (which is what happened)
>>107496269some ancientfag probably can see the timeline better but I imagine selen (and all the early niji EN) treatment and the black screen really turned off a lot of peoplewhat you see is not this thread hating on nijiits that there's barely any niji viewers in this thread
>>107496476>the word of this shitter that simply sold himself as a lie is worth anythingnani?
>>107496537well yeah, that's why I said that. They could do that in an ideal world IRyS thinks she lives in, but not in this one where they can profit more and take less risk by not doing that.
So... will Saba even return at this point? Idiots like Donnie had dragged her into this mess when she's not even recovered from the location fiasco.
we're already getting the horrible dead hours with either no streams or 1 person streaming, what happens when everyone is in japan for fes preparations who will stream for EN?
>>107496562Literally every silicon wafer on earth is tagged for use in something. They need to make new fabs which takes years and billions of dollars for high end stuff since its all working at capacity too. They physically can't make anymore right now. The AI bubble has to pop.
>>107494683Mint was talking about riding rollercoasters and being molested by big titty jap idols for two hours straight. Imagine those people that have her as their oshiI know she's great
>>107496187https://charts.youtube.com/artist/%2Fg%2F11l7msmw4c>1.Vietnam 3,178,036 (29.08%)>2.Japan 2,329,094 (21.31%)>3.United States 1,545,951 (14.15%)>4.Philippines 397,202 (3.63%)>5.Taiwan 362,795 (3.32%)>6.South Korea 298,376 (2.73%)Can someone explain Vietnam?
>>107496600Donie did nothing wrong. We need more fans like him to hold Cover and Yagoo accountable.
>>107496229>6h>800 likesIt's really weird especially since he has recently been targeted by the engine
>>107496612AI bubble popping means another recession and given the political climate, a war
>>107496636>t. Donnie the indo
>>107496616bots
Due to recent events I believe its time we have to reintroduce the notion that Mori must Graduate. Everything we were warned about 4 years ago has finally started to come true.
>>107496582No that's a nice narrative but unfortunately not true. In a twisted sense, Anycolor was correct in calling Selen negligible because NijiEN was already completely irrelevant in the scene. Black screen came long after NijiEN was already trending down but it officially dead after YO MAMA, truly the most unbelievable yab but one must never underestimate the fickleness of the chinksisters. Even before then, they were no real competition to EN since around Q2 2022. They did win golds during grim era because EN was fielding 2-3 active members total at any given timeBy the time Advent debuted, the sisters were a shadow of their old selves; months before the Selen shock. It's very similar in fact to El Silencio, which happened months after the homos were neutralized, also before Advent debuted in the timeline. Those are both major events in zeitgeist, but ultimately footnotes in actual history
>>107496571no that's literally not what happenedthey decided to not increase supply and just milk AI shit as much as they can
https://youtube.com/shorts/rIAB19L2iEUhttps://youtube.com/shorts/rIAB19L2iEUhttps://youtube.com/shorts/rIAB19L2iEUCute gem dances to AZKi
>>107496616you dont know the nguyen schizo? youre too new
>>107496667>t. Griefous.
>>107496616vietnam is very well known for it's botting services
Kek Hololive karma.More graduations will definitely come.Totally black company with talents going on psychotic breaks or ghost induced paranoia. Even the staff keeps leaving lmao.
>graduation beggingIs this really a pattern now?
Cucklings are trying to deflect from the Grimmi shit because it paints their grifting whore in a bad light by the way. Shows that she was a leaker to that Vshojo fag who also knew about her getting with Randon. It's also why she dropped the LLD, because it would've gotten out by the same leaker otherwise
>how much mori streamed in the 2 weeks post-sololive announcement >how much ina and kiara streamed in the 2 weeks post-sololive announcement why is takotori so lazy?
>>107496616so in actuality lets just crash probably only has like 4 million real views?
>>107496476>you don't need talent to be successful in holoYou need talent to even get there to begin with, that faggot is wrong
>>107496681not that guy but you are kinda right. They need time to make more fabs to increase supply. In the meantime they will just divert as much of the existing supply as they can to AI. But people naively think they are planning to make those new fabs for us, no they just want even more supply for AI.
>>107496734Anon, that's total channel views
>>107496616>3.4m fake listensYIKES
>>107496734It's more likely that it's just misreporting something. That many quality bots that wouldn't immediately be removed would cost literally 10s of thousands of dollars.
Good morning /#/ daily reminder unicorns always lose in the end
https://x.com/ninomaeinanis/status/1998316834001756166https://x.com/ninomaeinanis/status/1998316834001756166https://x.com/ninomaeinanis/status/1998316834001756166
>>107496744Explain Fauna. She had 0 talent and was shit at the shit she was hired for (ASMR) yet some retard let her into Holo anyway
>>107496258"world" tour
>>107496705personally betting on either Hachama or Lamy, but any of the daisenpais can be actually ticking time bombs really because who the nobody cares about them (low ccv, doesn't stream)
>>107496684I really like that song, sucks it didn't hit the algorithm
>>107496292Hytale isn't ready yet last I checked, Vintage Story is good to go
>>107496753Does that count the bots in her streams or is it specific to her music?
>>107496616>vietnamAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAI didnt know Cover also availed the "services" in vietnam
https://x.com/livedoornews/status/1998294097568969178four liver agencies warned by Japanese FTC over their non-compete clauses.
>>107496760It's over
>>107496760She needs more stick to go with that carrot
>>107496763This but irys
>>107495534>all these replies a naplings raid?only about 40-50 left on FridayThe rest are resale which aren’t much either
>>107496777No, it doesn't even tell you which is which. Just that someone is poisoning the well.You could see it being set up here: >>107496696Idiot isn't being slick.
>>107496753>>107496777pretty sure it's music views only since her channel views should be much higher
https://x.com/kobokanaeru/status/1998316826758098969Still no marine (no III)
https://x.com/ourokronii/status/1998316689637654821https://x.com/ourokronii/status/1998316689637654821https://x.com/ourokronii/status/1998316689637654821
>>107496805I mean it seems obvious that it must be related to botting unless you think that the place with the most Mori viewers is actually Vietnam
>>107496616Here's March 2024>1.Japan 1.4M (23.65%)>2.USA 1.26M (21.28%)>3.Taiwan 412k (6.96%)>4.South Korea 248k (4.19%)>5.Indonesia 191k (3.22%)>6.Philippines 167k (2.82%)
>>107496824Hololives pet dog Mori Calliope does not bot, anon. Mori is a good girl who loves Hololive with all her little paws. Who is a good girl? You are! Yes you are!
>>107496824Anon, there is a reason we never used youtube's charts, they are inaccurate as fuck unless you think she only had 10m music views in a month when she regularly has more without a big anime song inflating it.
Koyori is stirring white liquid handcam yabaaaai
So Hololive is also just fucking bottedThis all feels like a bad joke. We know Holo is popular, them always selling out is fucking proof of that. So what fucking gives. What is the purpose of this?
>>107496844It's also trying to memoryhole Future Island
>>107496773I know but, it's coming out on 13th of January in early access. The name reservation is already happening in the next few days.
>>107496854So (insert) is also just fucking bottedThis all feels like a bad joke. We know (insert) is popular, them always selling out is fucking proof of that. So what fucking gives. What is the purpose of this?
>>107496681>just milk AI shit as much as they canto do that they need to increase supply
>>107496854They're afraid of the peanut anonHe's the living proof that Hololive is a shambolic organization
>>107496851Wtf? is real
>>107496813how did kobo get two 3d lives in a year while complaining about money
>>107496854All of hololive consists of good dogs for the most part. They would NEVER bot. Expecially Mori Calliope, she is such a good dog to her masters at Hololive!
i can't help but think of rider everytime i see this "dog" schizo faggot talking, is almost the same style of cringe only missing the unicorn cabal
So who should win the vtuber awards?
>>107496884What's wrong with dogs? :( you don't want to see a mori inspired dog?
>>107496829>>107496616so nobody can explain why vietnam came out of nowhere? is gachiakuta really popular there or something?
>>107496874She lick the white gooey stick. CHO YAABAAII IMNCUMMING
>>107496854I believe hololive en started getting bot after Advent debuted?
>>107496884it's selenfag off his meds trying another persona look at this >107496877 image filename
>>107496891We already know she's a bitch anon.
It's a slick MV for the opening song of a popular anime, seems self explanatory to me. Her MV for the ending song for a dogshit anime last year did pretty well for itself and it didn't even come out while the show was airing. The alternative explanation being someone buying 200k views a day for ??? seems like a questionable reason to risk channel termination
>>107496851Is it mating season already?
Here's something even more interesting.Views from Vietnam during the last 365 days: 4.93MViews from Vietnam during the last 28 days: 3.18M
>>107495577Nigga what "last show"?
>>107496876What do you think she spent her money on
>>107496877>Expecially
>>107496861This doesn't work because every other corpo is fucking trash and it makes complete sense why they bot themselves. Niji is desperate to be relevant. Their entire en branch are 3 views or less. A lot of their low tier JPs are just as bad. Hololive is not like this, and even a lower tier (Roboco) can still sell well because she's part of the box.
>>107496903I just got what was on the Internet, anon. I genuinely think Mori is an awesome dog for her masters at hololive
>>107496911Looks like The Streamer Awards was right on not giving this fraud Vtuber of the Year
>>107496889probably kai though I have no idea why ishowspeed didn't get nominated over people like peanut and caedral
>>107496909It would also make 0 financial sense lmao. There is a reason that "dog" retard came back suddenly.
>>107496884Nah it can't be him, the bald unemployed cuck is way too busy fighting invisible unicorns and masturbating about how his "gf" gets fucked by other men
>>107496909>seems like a questionable reason to risk channel terminationit wouldn't be any risk for the person buying the bots the only one at risk would be mori
>>107496929Yeah Kenji was robbed.
Literally making cumscuits. HOLY SHIT.
>>107496903jfc this nigga can't find a rope to hang on huh? ig he got tired of biboo
>>107496971I actually watch Biboo with my son, anon. I got introduced to hololive through Mori. Then I realised there was kid friendly channels so I thought Fuwamoco and Biboo would be the perfect channels to introduce my son to vtubing and get him into anime.
Not having Kanafags is an overall plus for this board. Same for them greensaps. Unicorns died. Cuckfags died. The new age of Vtubing
>>107496911Why Vietnam? Never seen massive vtubing movement from there.
>>107496946Mori's not even at risk as we've been told time and time again. Any malicious botting YouTube is well aware of and don't strike her channel for. >>107496947Kill yourself drama nigger lover>>107496929Kill yourself retarded nigger.
trying to hard, no (you) for you
If I imagine that's my coom hard enough....
>>107496911won't it be really fucking embarrassing if half of the views on LJC get purged one day?
>>107497021No? 4M is pretty good
>>107496757I mean, YouTube won't remove the views if they do it legally, like if someone paid for it to be displayed as an ad in vietnam
>>107497005karaoke is big there no?
>>107497012She is really soaking them biscuits deep.
>>107497021The idea some monkey in this thread is spending 10s of thousands dollars on that is amusing, but It's more likely something with location reporting beign fucky.
>>107496163did irys watc the orc?
>>107496876Was she able to afford the gpu in the end?
kek wait so not only did Cover schedule Fes over IRyS' birthday, they even went out of their way to put her on a stage on her birthday
>>107496163Yeah, I heard she was getting a new pc last year
>>107497038sir we love making schizo retards look important itt please delete your post
>>107497040Nimi's influence must be studied
>>107496684Biboo cute
>>107497033if they like singing, then they won’t like mori because she is a bad singer.
>>107497055She's the main star of fes
>>107497072cuck
>>107497069It's pretending that Future Island didn't get the same boost.
>>107496946Either Youtube can prove that they are bots and can accurately remove their impact from the channel, or Youtube can't prove they are bots in which case the views remain legit. There's no case where you would ban the channel because there's no need to, both possibilities are accounted for. The alternative would be some bizarre twilight scenario where 'Youtube doesn't know they're bots but highly suspects so and still wants to do corrective actions with no hard evidence' which only works if you think there's some person sitting in an office eyeballing a channel's performance and making decisions instead of an automated algorithm like everything else on the site. Which I wouldn't put past something like Twitch to do, but Youtube is probably the largest automated data farming operation on the planet.
>>107497055I hope she won't do autismo thing of not mentioning it at all....
holy CUMLooks like its finally mating season for Mayodog eh~
>>107496684Biboo should wear lesser clothes.
>>107497069There is a reason youtube charts have only ever been used for shitposting purposes lmao. If it was that easy to get accurate data we would haven't have the half dozen external websites tracking it.
Google Answers knows everything
There's also that same logic that produced those seetheboths, you know, the same ones that appeared during Biboo's birthday 3d or The ones that appeared after goku went SSJ
>>107497096Big girls needs her nutrients
>>107497055Move it to the weekend after you cover Koyori and Kronii’s, week after that you hit Suisei and you hit Kobo the week after that
>>107497086>Cuckling calling someone else a cuck
>>107497055Yeah it's called a birthday celebration
>>107497122 Vtubing outside Hololive is pathetic af
Onegai Koyori.... eat them...
Watch the retard take it outside of /#/, because it got laughed at. Likely /morig/
Migo pumping up streams, she seem want to secure this years Top Vtuber
>>107497110Who?
>>107497154Slurrppppp
>>107497122She's a dog!? Let's go. She joins the greats like Mori, Gigi, Biboo, and Fuwamoco. Dogs!!!!! Who is a good girl? You are! Yes you are! Yes you very much are!!!!!!!
>>107497178Contributes nothing to Hololive. Full of past/current drama. Good riddance.
https://x.com/moricalliope/status/1998286472156488011Mori, why? Why boost something just because you're in it even if it shows the top being a dirty grifter?
This monkey is really mad at Mori for some reason.
>>107497202That's an image of Mumei not Fauna you stupid nigger
>>107497218I'll remind you that Fauna is part of that GUN session
>>107497005>cant you fuckin back-read at least?Vietnam is a bot farmEven kpop do this shit
>>107497218She is just being a professional dog. That is why everyone looks up to her, she is a wonderful dog for master!
>>107497228>same same but differentNah pretty sure they are both shite.
>>107497225Well, he's too addicted to numbers and bet his whole life on Nimi (see, I can tolerate Nimi, but her fans need to stop pretending she was 100% blameless over the outrage BaeRyS and co had to endure post-graduation), but when he saw Mori or Biboo overtake her...he saw blood.
>>107497225It's just your usual "IN ORDER TO DESTROY HOLOLIVE WE MUST DESTROY..." kind of post
>>107497241I don't give a fuck, she's shown multiple times after that that she's a fucking worthless grifting whore who doesn't care for Hololive. Signal boosting Mint is bad enough as is but signal boosting Mint with an image that puts Nimi as #1 is pure fucking cancer. >>107497263>>107497253Kill yourself.
>>107492079lyger or loserbait
>>107497272It's Mori's turn it just so happens.
>>107494521you press one more button lmao
>>107497281Holy fuck man get a grip you sound like a woman
>>107497272One Mori fart is enough to wipe out half of the homos. That's how much of a threat she is you see.
>>107497281No. My son needs me anyways and so does my wife. What is wrong with Mori the absolute grim reaper DOG, anon?
>>107497281post da bobs and vejaniiplz
>>107497218I'll remind you that Mori called Fauna a pillar.
>>107497310Calling your left and right hands your wife and son is disgusting
>>107497281Ogey
>>107497305KEKK
>>107497324I'll remind you she was retarded in doing so when no one in EN likes her. Her entire gen hated her for being a stupid bitch
>>107497326Think of Fuwamoco the awesome puppies who obey their masters and spread love, not hatred, anon
Did griefous really get mad this time?
>>107497338Can I at least get a longer paragraph?
>>107497305I bet whatever catbox with that original mp3 probably outshine some homos in views
>>107497342yeah he was going crazy on twitter earlier apparently.
>>107497358Protip: the Morischizo might be him.
Why are naplings making kanata anti posts now? I feel like that's a bit excessive.
>>107497370SapCucks vs Unicucks weee
>>107497370I don't think naplings are here, anon. But we can talk about puppies if you want. What is your favourite dig in Hololive?
IRyS was numberfagging about her MV views for the last 5 minutes or so
>>107497385>dig
>>107497370Don't worry, when their whore gets cancer they'll have much more to worry about.
>>107497387Hololive sucks in developing talents.Suisei and Mori did it purely through their own efforts. Ngl they should just go solo instead of waiting till old age.
>>107497387She must be seething at how low the past 7 releases have been kek
>>107497385t. napling
>>107497385>dig>favourite
https://x.com/kobokanaeru/status/1998316826758098969>indog homobeggar thinks shes an IdolSell holoID too along with the homos.
>>107497401It's bad karma to keep making theses posts wishing cancer on Nimi. That's taking it too far.
Sensing a lot of hate towards music-related vtubers right now.
>>107493611Rushia...... ;-;
>>107497418Kronii is there so it's confirmed she is, you can keep seething
