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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://holo-spotify-stats.jirikunes.eu/

Twitch sites
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/
>https://streamscharts.com/

Nimi wins gold yet again. That's how you scatter the roaches

>>107568035
she doesn't win gold since months ago

The Original Sin:

>Eww... JP vtubers need to have idol culture stuff, I hate that. We should remove that from EN Vtubing so that everyone can be vtubers!

>years later: Theburntpeanut gets Best Vtuber Award. Twitch Vtubers: GATEKEEP EVERYTHING

LOL HYPOCRITES.

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wtf

>>107567674
She has and has had male friends her whole career
She's talked about them on stream before she even homocollabed
She has stated MULTIPLE times that she takes a long time to get to know someone and demonstrated that by not even collabing outside of Advent for the first half a year of her time in Holo before getting close with Mori
She's just the same as the JP homocollabers, she doesn't care about gender with friendships, it's whatever
Doesn't change the homos being wastes of space leeching from the holo name while coasting, I wouldn't care about them if they were shitters separated entirely from the company and not being active drains

>>107567832
She actually talked about why she was in a bit of a funk early in the year, and it was in part because Fauna and Mumei were gone after she just started getting close with them and it made her realize you never know when people could be gone so she should collab more to not waste the time, so ironically one could blame Fauna for causing her to pull the homo trigger and not be too far off

Apologies for crossposting but I typed this shit before the thread died and I refuse to have wasted five minutes of my shit break at work

Homocollab girls always gotta overcompensate with female collabs, solo streams or pandering in members after or before dealing with males. Seems like so much extra work to keep gachis instead of just letting go.

lol imagine caring about shiori and homos that much

I am omega

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Phase fans LOVE Peanut

>>107568091
Well it happened: Shiori collabed with Mori, Bae and FWMC.

>>107568069
Do Rosarians even have a form yet?

>>107568091
>Homocollab girls always gotta overcompensate with female collabs
Even the most atrocious homocollaber will always prefer the girl

Shiori would throw Saaryon to a meatgrinder just to have 15 more minutes with Zeta

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>>107567993
Recent Clip Numbers
>>107390210
>>107390239
>>107390261

>>107568097
The only thing I care about is her influence on other girls and the hololive image.

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>>107567863
This is bad but why are jp investors selling over en branch underperforming, or is there something else?

>>107567900
I'm neutral. I was never a fan of roommate stuff, if they were not motivated to stream in hololive pre-grad, how much more with "freedom" to slack off and fuck all night. Disappointment is guaranteed. I'm a cunnysseur and cgdct enjoyer, even now I still haven't watched not-gura, chloe, shion and aqua. I will stick with the hololive character and to those with professional commitment.

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>>107567993
* YESTERDAY’S FINAL TALLY *
>42,568: Pekora (Hololive)
>41,265: Nijisanji (Nijisanji)
>38,886: Lain (Nijisanji)
>37,890: Luna (Hololive)
>36,093: Miko (Hololive)
>31,425: Noel (Hololive)
>28,663: Marine (Hololive)
>26,087: Bijou (Hololive)
>17,376: Marin (Nijisanji)
>14,546: Moondogs (Springfish)
>14,225: ReGLOSS (Hololive)
>13,860: Lamy (Hololive)
>13,391: Shiori (Hololive)
>12,494: Lauren (Nijisanji)
>12,383: Fubuki (Hololive)
>11,916: Su (Hololive)
>11,771: Ririca (Indie)
>11,435: Peo (Indie)
>10,693: Okayu (Hololive)
>10,604: Rin (Nijisanji)
>10,531: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>10,448: Choco (Hololive)

>>107568117
It's true, and it will always be true because they spend most of their time working with the girls which strengthens friendships a lot more than calling a homo a fag for two hours

>>107568075
There is also the Biboo-Iofi elephant in the room but that's some esoteric rrat iceberg shit

So is this where everyone admits the napling were right and Nimi deserves to be awarded?

>>107568137
based miofag

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>>107568149
DEC 2025 GOLD
>1) 96,968: Hololive (hololive) holoX 4th anniversary 3D LIVE [21]
>2) 121,004: Kanata (hololive) Graduation announcement [23]
>3) 104,998: Kanata (hololive) zatsudan [26]
>4) 56,255: Subaru (hololive) hand drawn clips show [21]
>5) 59,525: Miko (hololive) no management [14]
>6) 131,676: Miko (hololive) FWMC vs Sakura Miko [21]
>7) 75,311: Mio (hololive) 7th anniversary totsumachi [33]
>8) 69,205: Pekora (Hololive)
>9) 58,532: Miko (Hololive)
>10) 42,568: Pekora (Hololive)

> PER COMPANY
10x: hololive

> PER STREAMER
3x: Miko
2x: Kanata, Miko, Pekora
1x: Hololive, Subaru, Mio

>>107568112
>>107567934
>designed by a furry

>>107568133
Well they have been propping up the branch for I dunno how long now. Its literally just throwing money into a black hole. Maybe the investors finally came about to realizing that.

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>>107568172
DEC 2025 SILVER
>1) 36,252: Pekora (hololive) Marika8DX
>2) 60,903: Miko (hololive) MIMESIS w/ FubuMio, Subaru
>3) 65,902: Miko (hololive) talk
>4) 53,098: Kanata (hololive) utawaku
>5) 59,144: Miko (hololive) Pokemon Ruby Finale
>6) 94,039: Pekora (hololive) last announcement of the year
>7) 55,108: Nijisanji (nijisanji) nijisanji WORLD TOUR 2025
>8) 60,343: Miko (Hololive)
>9) 44,383: Miko (Hololive)
>10) 41,265: Nijisanji (Nijisanji)

> PER COMPANY
8x: hololive
2x: nijisanji

> PER STREAMER
5x: Miko
2x: Pekora, Nijisanji
1x: Kanata

>>107568051

Everything we're seeing right now is self-inflicted, both by Vshojo, and the Twitch vtubers who didn't like to follow the JP company model, as well as the inherent culture. They didn't want to accept Idol Culture, which paved the way for AO to be considered one. Had that first gate not compromised, it wouldn't have bled to the point that any random idiot can "become" a vtuber.

>>107568133
Because with the death of nijiEN they have Z E R O overseas growth and a stalled domestic market
Investors want growth because that makes the worth of their stock go up, if there isn't any, then why invest?

>>107568181
HAHAHAHA

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>>107568193
DEC 2025 BRONZE
>1) 34,726: Hoshikawa (nijisanji) FGO
>2) 46,864: Pekora (hololive) Minecraft
>3) 49,340: Kanae (nijisanji) Important Announcement
>4) 38,413: Miko (hololive) Pokemon Ruby
>5) 25,350: Fubuki (hololive) Pokemon Star Gold
>6) 56,216: Nagao Kei (nijisanji) NijiIka matsuri 2025
>7) 52,755: Miko (hololive) horsebetting
>8) 44,340: Hololive (Hololive)
>9) 41,955: Pekora (Hololive)
>10) 38,886: Lain (Nijisanji)

> PER COMPANY
4x: nijisanji
6x: hololive

> PER STREAMER
2x: Miko, Pekora
1x: Hoshikawa, Kanae, Fubuki, Nagao Kei, Hololive, Lain

>>107568163
That's just iofi being vile
I'd still hate fuck the shit out of her, but she's just got a bad attitude and opinions

>>107568133
Stocks and stockfags operate on the (unrealistic) idea of infinite growth. If Nijisanji is as they claim the “top vtubing company in Japan”, but has dismal prospects outside Japan than they means they have a firm cap on how much they can grow, especially in a highly contested vtuber market like Japan. Coupled with what the other anon said about other execs selling off their shares.

Today, I will remind them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJQP7kiw5Fk

>>107568112
>>107568181
ye, they're furries
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>107568225
I would pay actual money to see what happened behind the scenes that week and the week after.

I feel like the whole events leading up to the Brick and after it were probably an interesting story that we may never know in detail, the emotions of everyone involved (Shiori, Nerissa, FWMC, Biboo)

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>>107568181
Oh...I guess that's the best person to draw a literal dog

>>107568181
why the fuck did she not choose the candle design, those were way more unique and cuter

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This basically confirms Miko can't win, right?

>>107568181
I can only assume the furry was told "corgi with these colors and a knight armor", and he went full furry. At least it isn't humanoid.

>>107568299
Because she is a pegasus sister

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>>107568133
It's not only EN

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>>107568214
DEC 2025 HIGHLANDER
>1) 96,968: Hololive (hololive) holoX 4th anniversary 3D LIVE
>2) 121,004: Kanata (hololive) Graduation announcement
>3) 65,902: Miko (hololive) talk [S]
>4) 56,255: Subaru (hololive) hand drawn clips show
>5) 25,350: Fubuki (hololive) Pokemon Star Gold [B]
>6) 94,039: Pekora (hololive) last announcement of the year [S]
>7) 75,311: Mio (hololive) 7th anniversary totsumachi
>8) 29,418: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>9) 28,184: Lize (Nijisanji)
>10) 41,265: Nijisanji (Nijisanji)

> PER COMPANY
8x: hololive
2x: nijisanji

>>107568130
The only one retarded enough to fall for her influence is Nerissa but at the same time she is too mentally weak to do anything that would cause any real backlash

>>107568321
IDK, But my money is on Charlie, he's the only guy who's part of an actual game.

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>>107568341
DEC 2025 Floor tally
>1) 10,212: Luna (hololive) Cities: Skylines II [21]
>2) 10,443: Kanade (hololive) Carry The Glass [23]
>3) 10,498: Calliope (hololive) Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice [26]
>4) 10,496: Watame (hololive) Lamb Vegas clips [21]
>5) 10,025: Mio (hololive) Easy Delivery Co. [14]
>6) 10,126: Seible (nijisanji) Work + Pokemon [21]
>7) 10,014: Nene (hololive) DON'T SCREAM TOGETHER [33]
>8) 10,203: Kagami (Nijisanji)
>9) 10,039: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>10) 10,448: Choco (Hololive)

> PER COMPANY
7x: hololive
3x: nijisanji

> PER STREAMER
1x: Luna, Kanade, Calliope, Watame, Mio, Seible, Nene, Kagami, Fuwa, Choco

>>107568321
Westerners will obviously vote for the black guys. But a literal who stream doesn't mean anything.

>>107568321
Can you guys show me the TGA post about nijiEN's partnership?

imagine in an alternate scenario where saba had been nominated for best content creator would holos still be allowed to do watchalongs?

>>107568283
Furfags are disgusting

>>107568344
TOO LATE! It is time for Nimi to convince Nerissa to graduate! It's over! WOOF WOOD!

>>107568201
this basically, riku would keep it as long as it generates like 1 dollar of revenue just so they can keep telling investors they're expanding overseas and it's about to take off again.

in reality however they're fucking powerless, you can't fucking force people to voluntarily decide to sit and watch something they don't like anymore and they decided up die on the hill over selen shock. even so the selen fiasco is only like half the reason they depopulated, the other was the cumulative graduations and the general piss poor attitude of fucking everybody there about the viewers driving away gachis. they got what they wanted, no parasocial fucks.

the thing is the usual bullshit japanese company manuever is to just pretend like the audience must be grateful for whatever it gets and we're not entitled to judge anything etc and that kind of works in Japan sometimes, but really doesn't work at all in the west and they've stonewalled everyone for so long that the negative opinion of them is just permanently set now.

>>107568384
that implies that saba HAS CONTENT
KEK

>>107568384
probably, yeah. why wouldn't they?

>>107568384
>imagine in an alternate scenario
How about you face reality, nigger

>>107568069
Learn to read retard
https://x.com/i/status/1999174958052937994
>Designed by yours truly

>>107568381
>>>/pcg/

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>>107567993
100k by holos in 2025

1. Holo new year afterparty (hololive/01-01)
2. Pekomama Collab (Pekora/01-01)
3. Mikorone part 1 (Miko/02-01)
4. Mikorone part 2 (Korone/03-01)
5. Ceres Fauna graduation (Fauna/03-01)
6. Gomaku tourney draft (Miko/04-01)
7. Gomoku tourney part 1 (Miko/05-01)
8. 4th gen 3Dlive (hololive/05-01)
9. Gomoku tourney part 2 (Miko/05-01)
10. Janken tourney (Pekora/11-01)
11. Pekora Bday 3D Live (Pekora/12-01)
12. New years games festival (Towa/13-01)
13. HoloX anniversary 3DLive (hololive/19-01)
14. Sakamata Chloe graduation 3DLive (Chloe/26-01)
15. Peko Vs Marine clubhouse game 51 (Pekora/02-02)
16. Holo typing speed contest (Miko/01-03)
17. Oozora Subaru anniversary 3D Live (Subaru/02-03)
18. Sakura Miko Bday 3DLive (Miko/05-03)
19. Murasaki Shion graduation announcement (Shion/06-03)
20. Color Rise Harmony 1st Stage (hololive/08-03)
21. Color Rise Harmony 2nd Stage (hololive/08-03)
22. Color Rise Harmony 3rd Stage (hololive/09-03)
23. Nanashi Mumei graduation announcement (Mumei/28-03)
24. REGLOSS mini UNREAL 3D Live (hololive DEV_IS/30-03)
25. Sakura Miko 2D Live debut (Miko/01-04)
26. Inugami Korone Anniversary 3D Live (Korone/13-04)
27. Gawr Gura graduation announcement (Gura/16-04)
28. Otonose Kanade Bday 3D Live (Kanade/20-04)
29. Amane Kanata Bday 3D Live (Kanata/22-04)
30. Murasaki Shion Graduation 3D Live (Shion/26-04)
31. Nanashi Mumei Graduation (Mumei/28-04)
32. Gawr Gura Graduation (Gura/01-05)
33. Which hololive member loves Subaru the most? (Marine/01-05)
34. Spring Hololive Member Counseling Session(Subaru/06-05)
35. Animal Tower Battle tournament (Lui/18-05)
36. Miko Switch 2 lottery (Miko/03-06)
37. Tsunomaki Watame Bday 3DLive (Watame/06-06)
38. Todoroki Hajime Bday 3DLive (Hajime/07-06)
39. Takane Lui Bday 3DLive (Lui/11-06)
40. Sakura Miko Switch 2 lottery 4 (Miko/17-06)
41. Kazama Iroha Bday 3DLive (Iroha/18-06)
42. Sakura Miko Switch 2 GET announcement (Miko/22-06)
43. AZKi Bday 3DLive (AZKi/01-07)
44. Oozora Subaru Bday event (Subaru/02-07)
45. Pekomama holomem totsumatchi (Pekora/16-07)
46. Houshou Marine Bday 3DLive (Marine/30-07)
47. Guess which holomem the present is from? (Miko/03-08)
48. Best loser Smash tournament (Miko/06-08)
49. Usada Pekora 6th Anniversary 3D Live (Pekora/31-08)
50. Nakiri Ayame 7th Anniversary 3D Live (Ayame/03-09)
51. Shishiro Botan Bday 3DLive (Botan/08-09)
52. PekoLamy watermelon exploding offcollab (Pekora/15-09)
53. Shirakami Fubuki Bday 3DLive (Fubuki/05-10)
54. Holokoshien 2025 (Koyori/26-10)
55. #3rd Hololive Fitness King Championship (Lamy/29-10)
56. Anti Slaying stream (Miko/01-11)
57. Flow Glow 3D debut (DEV_IS FlowGlow/23-11)
58. Momotaro legends PekoSoraShubaNene collab (Pekora/23-11)
59. Shirogane Noel Bday 3D Live (Noel/24-11)
60. Amane Kanata Graduation announcement (Kanata/02-12)
61. Amane Kanata zatsudan (Kanata/03-12)
62. Sakura Miko vs FUWAMOCO Japanese battle (06-12)

# of 100k streams last year: 58

>>107568321
What does that have to do with her chances of winning or not? The shit is picked not voted on anyway, idc about it personally.

>>107568423
Fool. Nimi had won. Just bow down nad admit it. Nimi beat your hololosers

>Implying saba has enough streams to be nominated.

Hell, if she was motivated enough to do that, she'd still be Gura.

>>107567675
Nimi still doesn't curse and acts like a retarded prude what fucking edge

>>107568384
Popular jp still talk about rushia, so why not? Let's stay in reality where it's Miko though

>>107568412
what a faggot, good job ironmouse you cripple whore

>>107568459
I assume paid shills know ahead of time who will win. Elira wouldn't do this if she knew Miko will win.

>>107568487
She looks cooler. Just wished she was in an anime

>>107568403
I think the best example of the stagnation of Niji overall is the Global Tally

HoloJP is 11-0 against Niji, when they were 4-7 in 2024. With NijiEN dead and buried, and with NijiJP getting completely thrashed by HoloJP, what else is left to do? Not even botting works anymore, HoloJP's first army advantage is getting wider each day

>>107568493
see >>107568051
It's self-inflicted.

>>107568496
Lol why? She really cares about some imaginary competition between holo and niji still?

>>107568384
>content creator
That universe would have collapsed before that even happened

>>107568412
Where's the lie though, he literally explained exactly what Zen and Clio are.

>>107568493
You laughing now, but who's gonna laugh last when she gets promoted to be official cumdump of LA clique.

>>107568531
Obviously

>>107568412
>>107568493
Mori followed peanut btw

>>107568491
>Rushia
yeah not Mike

>>107568538
Yeah. Granted I don't like this peanut guy but Zengaya is genuinely a curse on vtubing. Fuck him and I hope he burns slowly for a century all alone in a box

>>107568525
The strongest organs are about as strong as a mid tier HoloEn, how they managed to feign popularity in the face of reality is amusing

>>107568369
This year is the most stacked line-up ever and it's not even close, every past year the winner was pretty obviously, this time basically every candidate has a case for it. Even if it wasn't for the fact that they only include a Holo to bait Yagoo the retard into doing shill streams for them, it would still be very difficult for Miko to win.

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This was in 2024 btw.

>>107568551
God she's always so fucking performative man

>>107568403
It's not even the gachi thing, they're just genuinely horrible fucking people and a group of clique harpies and drama queen divas
Elira's clique all had skeletons in the past showing how fucking awful they are, and cox, sleazebag luca aka L-diddy, and their cohorts were unironically dragged into a company culture of preying on women, they had fucking producers they were sending girls to that was DRUGGING THEM AND TAKING CREEPSHOTS as well as the general power imbalance and the clique being cockhopping whores to begin with certainly didn't help
NijiEN was one big fucking shit sandwich from the outset, and anyone with a nose and eyes could say as much at the time

>>107568496
Did the TGAs sponsor nijien? Sauce?

Reminder that Vshojo and the Initial Western reaction to vtubing is to blame for the events going on right now.

Had they assimilated everything that has to do with vtubers, including the Idol Culture, I doubt it wouldn't reach the point that any retard can just get "become" a vtuber.

If that "idol" identifier still existed, TheBurntPeanut would have to sing BSB or NSYNC in an organized manner for him to be considered.

>>107568596 (me)
late 2023*, same as 2024.

>>107568556
If zen's true identity is ever revealed the damage to the vtubing community will be catastrophic

>>107568551
>he's trying again
She followed during the nominations. You just checked today.

>>107568567
Kuzuha's average (with heavy botting) is around 15k

Miko's average...is 40k

Shiori is closer to Kuzuha than what Kuzuha is to Miko

>open granblue vod
>80% of it is zatsu that could easily been left for a discord call after the stream ended
bro

I'm going to watch Panko (posted this in a catalog thread accidentally)

>>107568596
gura killed the streamy awards

>>107568673
Video Killed the Radio Star

>>107568596
dead award shows that was always seen as a meme even compared to the streamer awards, qtcinderellas show was created before and outlived it

>>107568625
It has, theres this then also a vod of Zen's real voice coming through on HeavenlyFather's stream which I can't find because Zen copyright strikes it down and yet people pretend it doesn't exist and is fake. Maybe that'll change in due time without vshojo funding his astroturf...
https://files.catbox.moe/huwo37.mp4

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>>107568603

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>>107568605
Not sponsored they just signed up for this.

>>107568611
The first western vtuber anyone knew about was fucking Melody, a literal camwhore, back in like 2019. That ship sailed while Kizuna Ai was still kicking around.

>>107568730
>have your audience counted in the TGA total viewership
Did they always do this? What crazy numberfagging

>>107568369
It’s obviously gonna be Kai. He’s quite literally their token black streamer.

>don't open granblue vod
>play vidya instead

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>>107568754

>>107568759
Yeah. TGA had more live viewers than the Super Bowl.

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>>107568321
Miko won't win but not because of fucking Elira. Game Awards aren't giving Anycolor a head up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJCHMS0lHC0
Hololive Ritual Humiliation continues

>>107568778
Oh yeah forgot about the girl who sings about being drunk and high. Very idol-like.

>>107568754
That's why it's stupid for people calling to gatekeep when they themselves were a result of not gatekeeping.

>>107568763
There's probably never been a bigger industry plant than him in the entire history of streaming

>>107568829
Also gatekeeping is just a waste of effort you can't do shit to change anything. Especially not screaming into the void on a filipino message board.

>>107568843
I feel like IShowSpeed is more fake/botted but I don't pay that much attention.

>>107568069
FWMW should be by the fanbase/oshi/outside artist.
They took ruffians input, did it part of it themselves and had an actual artist actually finish it.

>>107568859
not really

>>107568825
HoloJP wasn't very idol like in 2018, anon...

>>107568859
but speed is not a plant tho

>>107568859
He’s 100% botted but he can be funny, all those black reaction gifs are literally him.

>It's going to be Miko
> Not it will be Its Kai he industry plant
>No Charlie he in a game
The winner is going to be peanut mark my words.

>>107568754
That's why I was so annoyed when takamori were doing vshojo collabs back in 2021, I always thought of Myth as showing the western vtubing scene that vtubing could be more than twitch streamers and camgirls

>>107568763
speed was robbed he at least deserved the nomination over any of the nominees besides miko

>>107568859
Nah Speed is actually organic though I'm sure he also viewbotted before (which twitchfucker doesn't) but his popularity is real. In fact he's the perfect contrast that people use to show how Kai Cenat's popularity is faked because nobody gives a fuck about him despite the numbers.

It's like, you know, when you see Hololive have ALL the mindshare everywhere on the internet and IRL, and Niji only has "numbers" and we're supposed to believe they are the same.

>>107568859
We've seen his mindshare, he pulls crowds globally

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>>107568778

>>107568919
Unlike the Streamer Awards, votes only are on 10%.

>>107568929
Youtube and Twitch vtubing had separate evolutionary tracks. Most of Youtube follows the Holo template in one form or another, and twitch are just kinda regular streamers with avatars.

>>107568611
Vtubing existed before idol culture was assimilated into vtubing (and in the west outside of hololive idol culture is pretty much non-existent to this very day)

>>107568859
Nah speed does a hell of a lot more than kai and while he was botted at one point his following is definitely not fake anymore

I hope Miko wins solely because twittertroons will have an apocalyptic mely because the only thing Miko is known in the west for is her gta NIGGAAA~ clip

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>>107568104

>>107568972
Literally no one knew her, niche 2view.

>>107568919
>jury vote
lol no

>>107568976
Official judges aren't above voting for the meme pick

>>107568986
lolno, Ai was the first person who actually coined the term: "Virtual Youtuber".

>>107568976
Yeah in the streamer awards they are 0% kek

>>107568998
So was Sora before the Christmas Miracle
Vtubing in its infancy wasn't exactly breaking records

>>107569009
Official Judges aren't going to pick someone in a controversy ATM.

>>107568919
Nah peanut only viewbotted himself to the peak in november and december, for the entire year he basically didn't exist.
the LA twitch clique doing it to spite vtubers is one thing but not even normie judges are that retarded

>>107568988
Yea that nigga can show up in any country and instantly have 10s of thousands of people instantly swarm him

There is something that creeps me out about early V-Tubing (2017-2021), everything feels hidden and erased, like you're not supposed to see it.

Even the scandals are much more severe and hidden between layers and layers. Shit like the Council multidoxx wouldn't happen anymore, and even if it did happen, the reaction wouldn't be as psychotic and downright scary as it was back in the day.

>>107569029
Yeah except Sora actually went somewhere.

>>107568990
>I hope miko has to deal with hordes of tourists and be forced to apologize for something she did several years ago because it will create more drama and drag hololive in that drama

>>107569038
The voting would've been done before any of it

God I'm so fucking glad Ironrat is finally getting shat on by the mainstream

>>107569069
Oh yeah its gonna be wild if they find out she's originally famous for saying nigger. No worries she ain't gonna win.

>>107569076
and then >>107569042 applies. Take your pick.

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do you think she has regrets

>>107569059
So did she in the end considering holo is the literal top 0.1%, no thanks to the vile cunt Eileen though
She was also in Polka and Ai's circles

>>107569092
>she's originally famous for saying nigger
only to subhumans like you

>>107569058
Yeah because hololive invented vtubing

>>107569098
Why would she? She gets put in all the promos and invited to everything being a good bootlicker

>>107569098
What were her original numbers like?

>>107569059
doesn't shiori get the same or higher ccv than sora on average?

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>>107569090
It feels like this meme but in reverse, lmao

>>107569105
Ai is an Idol too, retard.

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These two are pretty cute together

>>107569114
>being a good bootlicker
Nigger she IS the fucking boot, that's the problem

>>107568919
The winner is gonna be miko and her clique will be even more stronger inside hololive

>>107568996
>>107568104
>"We're not so different, you and I."

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Anyone else feel like there is a graduation queue right now?
I felt like La+ breaking down and crying when taso made her announcement kind of felt like she wasn't the only one planning to graduate.

These are uncertain times. I don't like it.

>>107569098
Ah I see she started early to get the engine ready for her watchalong

>actual IM fan trying to say "No, Idol Culture isn't needed for vtubers."

KEK, this is why people hate Vshojo and its offshoots.

>>107569076
the pope is more shrewd than you think
people pay millions to show 3 minutes trailer there, he gonna play it safe
especially because the category is literally there to drag people to watch tga

>>107569139
concerntrolling nigger

>>107568133
>This is bad but why are jp investors selling over en branch underperforming, or is there something else?
You didn't read the report correctly. Niji's Q1 set an ENORMOUS expectation but their Q2 overall was barely better than the previous year Q2 and that doesn't really bode well because it more or less points out that Anycolor frontloaded a lot of their revenue for this year in that quarter.

>>107569139
Horrible attempt, Selenfag

>>107569016
AI was in stuff with male vtubers so not a nice example there my dude

>>107569151
the mere fact that someone like peanut was picked despite quite literally nobody even knowing who he was before late october should tell you that he is 100% going to win this

>>107568859
ishowspeed has more fans showing up to meet him in real life than holostars has numbers combined even combined with viewbots

>>107569151
>tfw the pope uses Migo to shit on the LA clique.

>>107569139
>La+
She's not unicorn friendly so she's safe.
Cover is getting rid of the unicorn friendly girls

>>107568906
>>107568859
Its funny you mention this, has anyone ever seen ANYONE organically use a kai cenat gif as a reaction? I have never seen one once. I see speed gifs all the time.

>>107569090
QRD?

>>107569119
yes. there are a bunch of runts in JP that the lower tier EN members easily beat but that makes sense given how few EN there are compared to JP

>>107569173
>Idol means no men
Retard. Idol means that both audience and performer has a social contracl wherein they're responsible for the quality of the content, whether making and consuming it.

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>>107569200
I don't think Cover is getting rid of anyone, I don't think It's La+ graduating, either.
Someone else is about to graduate, but I don't know who it is.

>>107568859
>I feel like IShowSpeed is more fake/botted but I don't pay that much attention.
He was, that's how he kickstarted his career but he found an absurdly underserved niche: the "football fanboy" and his obsession with Ronaldo resonated with the third world football fans in such a way to give him a legit gigantic audience.
They're not well paying but, as Stalin expertly mentioned
>Quantity has a quality of its own

>>107569139
I hope so, it shakes things up and keeps it interesting. At some point Cover will have to stop experimenting and hire girls for a new proper JP gen. Although I do admit and fully understand it's rather insensitive for me to say that since graduations don't mean anything to me personally since I don't even have an oshi. I just want Cover to be pushed enough to DO something rather than maintain their passive position of just collecting money while certain parts of the house burn down.

>>107569126
Goddamn that is an ugly model

>>107569200
Yagoo is over his gay discovery phase, he realized sucking cocks isn't as fun as the fags lead him to believe.

>>107569090
I fell annoyed. Just like with jews I've hated her before it was cool and acceptable.

>Idiot really thinks people deride idols who collab professionally with the other sex.
What a LARPer.

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>>107569247
when she closes her mouth it legitimately looks like a birth defect

>>107568341
Nah, I know where this image comes from, you're gonna get banned

>>107569262
>FPS dating
>collab professionally

>>107569263
stop it shiori, you're not supposed to bath cats!

>>107569277
LMAO. you're really stupid.

>>107569275
First time I've seen an anime girl artist fuck up shark teeth

>>107569275
>>107569247
>>107569126
Phase fags will eat this shit up and say its better than any modern model. Well she will eventually graduate and reincarnate again for the sixth time so it doesnt matter.

>IMfag so mad that he's slandering Kizuna fucking Ai.

>>107569246
>At some point Cover will have to stop experimenting and hire girls for a new proper JP gen
They will only do this when the company is outright collapsing in flames, until then they're going to keep trying to
>create culture loved by all
meaning content for normalfags and homobeggars because the CGDCT audience is already locked down

>>107569303
That's supposed to be shark teeth? My impression that it was fucked up vampire teeth

>>107569326
You have this weird fantasy of the company being their 2022 self but, from what I can see, homos are getting the "broom closet" treatment to a point they can't even secure studio time anymore and have to hire outside.

>>107569326
>Homos removed from Countdown and relegated to nothing for HoloFES
Womp womp, you're gonna have to try harder than that, maybe mention something about stocks

>>107569217
have you been asleep for a week?

No Ina in the game awards? How I'm supposed to see someone being hype for Kingdom hearts 4 trailers?

>>107569284
How do you stop them from having stinky asses then?

>>107569305
You don't get it! She can chew bubblegum!

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>>107569362

>>107569367
You clean them with your tongue

>>107569386
bibot lost

>>107569389
Yes anon, we get it, Shiori is a homocollaber, what else is new?

What are some phasers that do absolutely zero culture war and political and react slop bullshit, not in titles, thumbnails, NOTHING. I want to give them a chance but that shit is repulsive to me

>>107569389
Shut up Shiori SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP

STOP TALKING, YOU'RE NOT DOING ANYONE ANY FAVOURS, SHUT UP

>>107569360
Last time I was here only some 1view indies were calling her out. Did it blow up to mainstream and who?

>>107569389
Solid advice, those things are a fucking pain to wash since you need to remove all the electronics and then put them back in after the wash.
Wash them only when they start stinking, kinda like jeans actually.

WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT ...
>Murasaki means purple / violet?!?!?!
That's why it was Shion's color?!?!

>>107569389
she never washed the suit ame gave her? the stink between the two of them must be insane

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>>107569409

>>107569058
QRD on the council stuff

>>107569389
She needs to graduate already

>>107569435
she murdered a bunch of ojisans with that line

>>107569405
you lost napling.

>>107569413
Why the corpo with the literal worst fanbase and chuubas around besides nijien? Surely there are better small corpos if you need to.

>>107568972
>The first western vtuber anyone knew about

>>107569058
Selenshock made doxx ''ok'' and if someone finds the identity of these girls then it's treated as a nothingburger. Back then is not that it was more secretive but people at least had the fucking braincells to realize it's fucked up to dig for their irl idenities and shit, so when it happened there was turmoil.

>>107569355
>they can't even secure studio time anymore and have to hire outside
Nylis is just a name they're calling the old 3D studio

>>107569469
>and the ensuing meltdown was quite scary
If you are a terminally online mongoloid. For the rest of the vtuber fandom they didn't even know whatever the fuck you're talking about and they both ended up at the top of their gen

>>107569469
if Cover debuted EN5 featuring two members with the information Fauna and Mumei had easily available on their old accounts I don't think the response would be much more positive. That was pretty clearly an experiment which they chose not to repeat.

>>107569519
also, pre selen graduation, no one cared about what the RM was doing and that RM and the Vtuber are separate.

That was the easiest way to call out an anti back then.

>>107569389
You typically don't have to wash mocap suits that often because they don't USUALLY make full skin contact, at least not in areas where it becomes an issue (like your ass)
It also depends on use time though, like if you use it daily MAYBE give it a run through every few weeks rather than months

>>107569524
Man, beggars delusion is sad as fuck. It doesn't matter how much things change in their detriment, they substitute reality by their own fantasy.
There would exist no reason to do what you are saying there instead of simply giving them regular studio time and it doesn't even make sense to pretend to cut them off just to not cut them off.

>>107569593
this was really only the opinion after Council debuts

>>107569426
>streamer awards (LA twitch aristocracy circlejerk)
>gives vtuber of the year to some viewbotting nigger with a snapchat filter
>explicitly nominated himself to snub actual vtubers
>predictable indie vtuber seethe ensues
>ironmouse glazes him and calls the complainers "cringe"
>this was so tone-deaf it actually broke her invincibility shield and caused real backlash
>the true antis (clearly mostly /here/fags) use the opportunity of her "broken pedestal" and to really call out her long and documented allegicance with fleshnormies over/against vtubers
>all tweets blowing up with thousands of likes
>peanut doubles down on shitting on vtubers AFTER she defended him, making her look even worse

>>107569618
>peanut doubles down on shitting on vtubers AFTER she defended him, making her look even worse
kek, how so?

>>107569413
Nitya Nil is probably the only good one and she streams regularly

>>107569642
see >>107568412

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>>107569618
Well, Ironmouse has no functioning spine, so...It's at least realistic.

>>107569659
fake, you should listen to ironmouse, it was just sarcastic joke

There’s a non 0% chance the peanut calls miko or kai a slur if he loses

>>107569659
Fucking kek
Hope the hole keeps getting dug deeper

>>107569701
If he drops a hard R if Kai wins I'll take back every bad thing I said about him

>>107569723
Selenfag rolls worst post of all time asked to leave /#/

>>107569723
>Cover collapsing

LOL

>>107568636
that doesn't make it any better

The mouse is jumping into drama with kais clique now
https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/s/mJUdEFSdKP

>>107569723
truth nuke it feels like the fall of the roman empire

>>107569750
HERE WE GOOOOOOOOOOO

>>107569743
Sex with rock

>>107569743
Just make Gura/Biboo NOW. I'll even pay you for it.

saba restreaming the game awards?

Limes is gonna stream the awards later

Gerstmann gonna talk over the game awards

>>107569753
>truth nuke it feels like the fall of the roman empire
It took about 1000 years. I get your point, you expect Hololive to collapse in 2064 or something

>>107569787
I don't think Saba is ever going to stream again

>>107569750
>people are saying i try to appease people, that's not true
>[proceeds to explain how she appeases people who shit on her]
lol
also this whole story about rakai is completely irrelevant people are talking about her glazing peanut for fucks sake

>>107569612
I think Cover is obfuscating the opportunity cost of holostars by hiding their use of company resources behind shell companies they're "contracting work out to"

>>107569852
She will when she burns through her mountain of cash like mumei did

>>107569618
I'm shocked, thought they would always fall in line. EVERYONE is just waiting for a chink in the armor to strike huh.

>>107569852
>I don't think
we know

>>107569870
>throwing Shachi under the bus again.
Idiot, also Shachi is off-topic, not a vtuber.

>>107569862
Hahahahahahahahahah

>>107569883
You should be more like me

>>107568282
>>107568225
After the way she tried to rope Raora into a collab with a pubblic post, I convinced myself she tried to trick Biboo into a male collab.
I don't think Shiori was involved in the trickery though, since GothRock kept being strong.

I don't think Advent as a group cared that much, or if they did they all know that THIS is their chance and they have to stick together.

Like, to make another example: Does FWMC care about Nerissa pandering to the twitter crowd? or what did the girls think about the shameless numberfagging FWMC did at one point?
Or another Shiori example, she's the only one who collabs a lot with ID.

They might disagree and even not like everything the other girls do but they ALL know that advent is bigger than them. And I know this because they all refrain from doing anything that could compromise it.

>>107568412
Honestly insane how it has been 40 years of "there are no women on the internet" but in different forms and it doesn't look like it will stop

>>107569862
That's a level of retardation even surpassing "selling out a concert turn up into a loss" in depth. Nobody fucking cares about the cost of the homos, not inside the company nor outside
>proof to that is that they never disclosed it in the first place
meaning any attempt to obfuscate it is prima face retarded, nobody is looking into it.
Here is a much simpler explanation
>the homos fell out of favor and are getting cut out of the good stuff
For that not only the explanation is simpler but there are a lot of other examples, like their airtime being cut for the Expo, their countdown presence being erased and so on.

>>107569750
Saying nothing when people are shitty to you just makes you look like a push over at best

>>107569870
lol
lmao

i don't believe your premise for a second, but even if it was true your argument is so dumb, neither of them have to stream again as they have guaranteed permanent income from memberships

>>107569900
There was something rather cute (although foolish) that I saw on the aftermath of the brick. Once the drama came, all of Advent closed ranks and immediately rushed to support Shiori
>Shiboo's VR chat date
>Nerissa retweeting ShioRaven
>FWMC talking on prechat about the love they had for Shiori

It was a good show of gen unity and something very sweet of them, but I don't know if Shiori deserved it. All of the heat and mean comments were things that she brought to herself, if anyone called her an idiot and a jackass, it's because she acted like an idiot and a jackass.

>>107569888
The "Nylis staff" are just the overeager homo managers, the "Nylis studio" is just the old 3D studio, this lets them use it without investors asking why it's not being used for hololive content if they have staff that can run it when that would have a vastly higher return on investment
The reason is that the managers can't use the tech properly yet and the content they're producing is of too low a quality for hololive, which is supposed to show off Cover's state-of-the-art tracking it all makes sense if you open yuour mind

>>107569975
Are you having a stroke?

>>107569618
>>107551039
go check out morig, dead beats are basically okay with her following that anti when I voice my opinion that I didn't like.

>>107570006
SPEAK ENGLISH YOU FUCKING MONKEY

>>107569900
I'm a newfag and they way Iofi tried to rope raora into a collab was actually insane and that was my first impression of Iofi so yikes

>>107569900
The thing about holo is that the girls are pretty supportive of each other regardless of content
Like Shiori being a team mom, helping Kiara with positive affirmations and checkups, love-bombing Mococo randomly, etc.
And then there's Mori who does her best to support and help everyone to the point even Towa pointed out and acknowledged it
And during the grim era, everyone still loved Kronii and she was great in collabs
Homocollab content being fucking ass and boring is a self-contained problem with the issue being holos not being good entertainers, but it doesn't really affect the girl side (except when containment breaking niggers and beggars who should all be put against a wall and shot make it a problem)

>>107568998
>>107569509
She ended up being a 2 views streamer on twitch, but she used to be the/one of the top en by subscribers
https://youtu.be/O6kl6PdAHeg?t=65

(ignore nyanners, she wasn't a vtuber until 2020 but the video is lacking Senzawa and I have no idea of her sub history)

Leak time:
>>107569670

If Bae says one single
>I don't know what _______ is
I'm closing the stream

>>107570006
it's just in their nature, women have humiliation fetishes. the ones that don't kneel to the nut are probably the 40yo men cosplaying as 15yo anime girls like he said

>>107570006
Bro are you new in the discord, you're not supposed to fucking ADMIT it's you

>>107569275
>>107569247
>>107569126
I think it's a cute model...
I really like her voice as well

Would take her and Panko's feet in en5

>>107569670
ERB?

>>107570103
AmaLee surely

>>107570103
They literally said Faye in the fucking reply chain you fucking ninny

>>107570103
It was going to be Faye Mata according to the rrat creator

>>107569989
tell me why it makes sense for first world citizens like Ruze and Flaygot to move to Japan, where they're sharing rooms in the slums to make ends meet on their minimum wage income, unless they're counting on something they've been promised is coming.

>>107570129
Couldn't pay me to read the vshojo thread

>>107569900
Homocollabs = nijisanji. NijisanjiEN is fucking dead. Hololive doesn't get more popular for a reason. I don't even want to give sisters a chance until they publicly proclaim total homo death

>>107570147
Ruze doesn't live in Japan he lives in a trailer park like the white trash he is

Saaryon is joining FSP

Again, everything wrong with vtubing started with Vshojo.

Every negative stereotype in vtubing was pioneered by Vshojo.

>>107570175
Trying too hard with your falseflag

>>107568859
>Ishowbots
This nigga bots irl too.

>>107569975
Sauce?

>>107570191
Most mainstream negative stereotypes about vtubers predate even Hololive wtf you on about

>>107570043
>And then there's Mori who does her best to support and help everyone to the point even Towa pointed out and acknowledged it
How easily we forget that before this mori was spearheading homo collabs and even try to get IRys to collab with grift mouse

>>107570191
Niji did it first, Vshojo was easy to ignore, too alien to real vtubers, too crass, too western.
Niji was worse, as people and even Holo thought it was the successful formula and it dragged everyone down the abyss

every month it gets leaked that vshojo had a superstar waiting to debut
next month it will be revealed that peanut was going to join vshojo

>>107570191
I'm gonna blame Hololive.

>>107570222
It quite literally all comes back to that one jap babiniku who did a bit where his camera bugged out that went viral

>>107570227
because of that very nature, Are you retarded?

Also, are you memoryholing her statement that she'd never force someone who wasn't comfortable with it?

>>107570191
All problems with western female vtubers and perceptions stem from vshojo and the whoreclan
All problems with male vtubers and perceptions stem from diddysanji
Although kurosanji also takes 50% of the responsibility for awful females too with the elira clique

>>107570261
Fuck hololive. They still have a rapist and a cultist and a killer in there. Disgusting!

>>107570268
she didn't need to force people simple nudge like she was doing was fine

>>107570268
No one is going to forget what your whore did to destroy hololive cuckbeat

>>107568638
If you frame it that way, even Iofi is closer to Kuzuha than what Kuzuha is to Miko

>>107570310
Lol, you're trying so hard lmao. Go back to the peanut thing lol

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People are calling Ironmouse a loli.
After years of her fans being obnoxious to actual lolis. You get what you deserve.
>picrel
no, thank you

>>107570268
Get ratioed, ddadcuck. Your shrek whore is finally losing. Losing all of those precious biboo bots. Looks like Biboo ran out of money KEK

>>107570268
>her statement
Words don't matter, actions matter, and she asked IRyS to collab with Ironlung live on stream.
You can cope that it's not forcing but it's objectively putting insane peer and public pressure on IRyS.
What do you consider force? pulling out a gun on IRyS?

>>107568638
Kuzuha is not around 15k, I dont believe it with his chat speeds. I dont think hes a 5view even.

>>107570191
I think the stigma with vtubers is due to female streamers. Most normies hate vtubing because they see them as cash grabbing onlyfans whores like many regular female streamers. That or they are men but outside zentranny I can't think of any popular vtuber that is actually a man.

>>107570191
this is on you holobrony

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>>107570033
I do hope she got chewed behind the scenes for it, because it's really a bad look.

I quickly checked her channel, I am not sure when the begging on twitter happened but let's say it was the first of march.

She had a collab with Shiori and Jurard, then one with Biboo, then one with Raora on like mid april, and then no more en collab, only ID and once with Riona. I'd guess she did burn some bridges.
At least I think, she doesn't write the collab names.

>>107570381
nta but do you have proof?

>has a hateboner for biboo and mori
>oddly defaults to Gura whenever possible
This is Darko, isn't it

Did a whole discord pull up what the fuck are these posts

>>107570388
Actual based move from the n#zi for once. Lol

>>107570191
the only people who were actively harassing vtubers they don't even watch were hololive fans followed a year or two later by phase fans.

>>107570406
Lurk more newfaggot, it's a well known fact from one of the first chadcasts.

>>107570404
It's funny because March 22nd 2025 was the last time Biboo and Iofi ever interacted in any way

Collabs, tweets, mentions, anything. Biboo stopped speaking to her completely that day. Same thing with Gigi after the League of Legends collab

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>pippa post
And there it is...

>>107570388
oh boy finally deciding to leech off the drama after days while pretending she's above leeching off drama.

>>107570404
Shiori still mentions her once in a while but they haven’t done anything since. She is persona non grata with a bunch of girls after the league stream though and not because of the homo collab

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>4 hours a week of eating on stream
>repeating the same topics she’s talked about a thousand times
>playing gacha on her phone
>doomscrolling twitter

>>107570442
So no proof

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literally not my problem at all, that's the best part of being me, none of this has anything to do with me and mine.

>>107570466
And WE love that shit.

YMCE experience, baby.

>>107570443
I truly believe iofi is the reson we haven’t gotten another reniegg collab

>>107570443
>>107570452
That's a monumental fumble on her part

>>107570466
so gfe

>>107570388
>didn't mute ironlung
KEK

>>107570487
Killer, I hope you choke on your chips; Kronii. Fucking deserve it after trying to kill Fauna TWICE

>>107570487
Does granblue vs have blue women?

>>107570471
imagine being this new

>>107570511
Fauna's been dead for a year

>>107570522
Imagine being a phaseshill.

>>107570442
It's funny because your claimed source is incorrect and I know the exact stream and quote you're referring to

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>>107570482
>YMCE

>>107570214
There isn't one. But
>nylis.net
is suspiciously empty except for holostars EN content, and if you click around you'll find pages like
>https://www.nylis.net/%E7%89%B9%E5%AE%9A%E5%95%86%E5%8F%96%E5%BC%95%E6%B3%95%E3%81%AB%E5%9F%BA%E3%81%A5%E3%81%8F%E8%A1%A8%E8%A8%98-%E4%BE%8B
which are still filled with placeholder text from the template they used. But
>https://www.nylis.net/%E9%85%8D%E4%BF%A1
they have a mocap system that Cover thought was good enough for holostars? That they don't use for anything else?

>>107570522
phasecuck