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When I see Piller,I wanna fill'er!
Feeding Pillow a warm bagel off my dick while Olive watches intently wondering if can have one too
>>107572847Kill yourself bagelfags. You made pillow sad.
>>107573370but if I do that who will make pillow sad?
i love olive
>>107574731Now you're intentionally trying to make Pillow sad.
barebacking olive and pillow to see who gets preggers first
>>107574738Pillow isn't here, how would I make her sad?
Hornypiwwos and cheating piwwos need Jesus.
>>107575323Pillow has made absolutely zero comments against horny Piwwos, but she’s spoken out countless times against cheating
>>107575320Every VTuber is /here/ and reading their own threads, every single last one. And Pillow is a HUGE ego surfer
>>107575323I need Pillow's butthole
>>107575323I need a pillow pantyjob
https://x.com/i/status/1999231431461974036I wonder what it is.
>>107575776A bit of an out there guess but she said it was peculiar sooooMaybe personal ASMR sessions? Pillow's said before she wished that she could physically give ASMR to every piwwo. She's also taken an interest in ASMR VRChat rooms somewhat recently.The obvious guess would be a VR concert of some sort, but that doesn't feel all too peculiar to me.
>>107577090>Maybe personal ASMR sessions?I doubt it, but that would be incredible. Probably the most intimate she'd ever be with any of us. I'd love to tell her how good she is at ASMR and thank her personally.
piwwos are the hardest hittin niggas i know
Bribing Olive with a new floppy disk reader for an unenthusiastic handjob.
I'm going to try very hard to not hornypost during the handcam and actually try to relax and de-stress. Although the white laced gloves with her pale hands and pink fingertips might set me off again.
She gave us permission to watch the game awards during the ASMR.
Diamonds already
What if I made the piller my oshi for 2026
>>107579131(Me)I take this back. I need those hands in my mouth.
I need to interlock my fingers with hers
>>107583062just have multiple oshi and let piller be one of them
>>107583199If you have more than one oshi then it means nothing
>>107564099…
Imagine those soft palms and thin fingers running along your skin
>>107583352
Pillow, not wanting to hurt you before a full moon night, chaining herself to a radiator and telling you to shelter in a secure bedroom. Her binds failing to hold her burgeoning muscular form, a locked, barricaded door fairing no better in stopping your transformed beloved from breaking in, manhandling you into various positions, and giving you the ass-pounding of a lifetime. Her waking at daybreak, wet and sticky, and immediately her tiny, lanky body is crying over you in endless apologies. But, you're not hearing a thing, as you're still shaking from the overwhelming aftershock of multiple orgasms your dear werechad force onto you that night.
>>107584700
>>107583261how so? there is absolutely nothing wrong with having multiple oshi and a kamioshi
>>107585031It means you're not loyal and Pillow is someone who greatly values loyalty.
Pillow is the type of girl to stick a finger in your butt
>>107585177Is she gonna warn me beforehand at least?
instant classic?
>>107586643I really enjoyed it so it's going into the playlist
>>107575323It’s not like I want to be this way. Staying faithful is much harder than it sounds.
ASMR nights and especially handcam always makes me extra sappy and parasocial. I just hope Pillow doesn’t mind me constantly lovebombing her, I figure not, I just want her to smile when she thinks of me.
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>>107594221I don't think a young lady who wears BOTH black and white laced gloves during a handcam, knowing how we feel about her wearing them, minds being constantly lovebombed and hornybombed.
Kissing Pillow’s clitoris and watching her spasm from the pleasure because she’s never touched herself before
>>107585166I am loyal to Pillow, she is my kamioshi. I just have needs that need to be met when she is offline which is what the other oshi are for.
https://x.com/i/status/1999273608112406982I'm filled with hope for Pillow when I see art like this. I want her to achieve all of her dreams.
>>107595390I generally find the hornyposting distasteful, but I do agree with the Piwwo a little bit ago who pointed out that while she’s never once said anything bad about it, she hates cheaters. Don’t forget that she has a lot of connections and good friends, and she DOES ask her friends to tell her about cheaters. Even if you think you’re getting away with it, you’re hurting her. >>107594368Perhaps true, I just always am fantasizing about being standing out and being special to her. It’s tough because I know that she can’t really allow anyone to be special.
She wore the black gloves while using the casual nurse outfit, disproving the glove theory.
>>107596487My mistake: she wore one black and one white, but the point stands.
>>107596514I think she just wanted to look cute. It doesn’t need to be deep. She used the black gloves with the goth outfit because it was cute. Same with the nurse outfit.
>>107596546Yeah, I know. She wore the white gloves during the soda collab, and someone suggested that it was to match the nurse outfit.https://warosu.org/vt/thread/106501377#p106601202
>>107591906If you're going to take it this seriously and talk about being "faithful", stop making excuses.
Pillow increasingly getting more seductive and erotic with her hands and gloves to divert our gaze away from her autistic roommate
>>107597016I really hope the hornyposting is all like 3 Piwwos. There’s maybe only 40 dedicated Piwwos enough to be obsessive over her, and if there’s like 10 of them that post about her in such nasty ways, I’m losing my faith in humanity.
>>107597135It gets worse if you say anything. Just ignore it.
>>107597174I don't really mind the hornyposting, I just hope that it's not a very large segment of Piwwos that are legitimately hoping she gets lewd and shit.
>>107597505It seems like 2/3 of every vtuber I see online is some degree of internet whore, Pillow is like the last legitimately wholesome girl around. If she ever whores out I’m legitimately blowing my shit smoove off.
>>107597135You should hang out in the discord if the hornyposts bother you that much, you seem to be fit in there much better.
Couples have sex. Couples sexualize each other and touch each other. Pillow is my virtual girlfriend and wants me to see her that way and not look at other women so I’m going to virtually sexualize her, too, because that’s what people in love do to express their feelings. Pillow is a hot cutie and you need to stop denying it for anonymous virtue signalling points on fucking 4chan of all places. It would actually make more sense to defend her against hornyposts if you shared your username /here/ with your posts. At least that way you’ll get recognition for your efforts.
>>107597998NTA but PillowCord is boring. Most people there are or act like gay autistic teenagers. They rarely have an actual conversation about something.>>107598148>Couples have sex. Couples sexualize each other and touch each other.You're not a couple. You don't do those things and she doesn't want to do them with you.>wants me to see her that wayHow do you know? She's never said that; you're assuming it. And how you see her shouldn't necessarily be how you talk about her.>Pillow is a hot cutie and you need to stop denying itNobody said that she isn't. I've said that she's attractive and I want her to feel confident and sexy, but that's not the same as what some people here say about her (and Olive).>It would actually make more sense to defend her against hornyposts if you shared your username /here/ with your posts. At least that way you’ll get recognition for your efforts.Well, there you go. I don't care about recognition. In fact, I only speak out against it here because it *would* be gay and pathetic to defend her under my username for points.But I'm not the first guy in this thread who said something. I decided a while ago to ignore it. It doesn't really bother me and Pillow's an adult who knows not to come here if she doesn't want to see that stuff. But it would be nice for her to be able to come here and not see it, because there are lots of sweet posts that I'd like her to see, and we're able to communicate with her in a unique way.
>>107598431>gay autistic teenagersWow it's even worse than I thought.And not to highjack you're reply to the other guy but if Pillow really wants to lurk here and see wholesome posts and whatnot then I'm pretty sure she's well aware of the demographic here on /vt/ and can deal with some dirty hornyposts that come with the thread.
>>107597998>>107598148I did say earlier, I’m cool with the hornyposts, I just hope it’s a small number of Piwwos instead of being a large amount of her core Piwwos.
>>107599538I am similarly attracted to her, I’m just not mentally ill enough to post about my sexual thoughts on the internet. I’ll still to wholesome posts about how much I want to cherish her.
>>107599538That's cool there's only like 2 of us that hornypost so don't worry.>>107599559You're looking to start shit pretty early huh?
Piwwows are always fighting these days. This place used to be very calm and funny with femanons.
It's almost like discord piwwos should stay on the discord and stop trying to cause fights
My wife woke up, everyone shut the fuck up and stop fighting
>>107599977Fine. Just for you Olive.
>>107599858Sorry buddy. Mentally ill (affectionate)
>>107600152You're a cheeky one I'll give you that
Smelling garlic outside and getting a Pavlovian erection due to Pillow's garlicky aroma
>>107600417Could the aroma level Tacoma?
>>107596737I don’t buy that you guys NEVER watch another girl’s asmr. Pillow only streams them once a week and you can only rewatch the vods so many times. Are you telling me you never get curious?
>>107601222I do watch other girls' ASMR and she knows it. People say it really bothers her, but I don't think it's a big deal.
Pillow isn't an idiot she knows piwwos listen to other asmr, what clearly upsets her is people openly saying they do when she wants to be our one and only
>>107601600If it upsets her so much, she can tell me to choose between them and her and I'll leave, but I don't see why I should have to choose. And I wasn't going into her chat or replying to her saying that I'm watching other girls; she saw my replies to them while going through my timeline. All of my posts that aren't replies are about her. I haven't shown anywhere near the same interest in or affection for any other girl. I really don't think it's the worst thing in the world if I interact with them every now and then.
I've watched ASMR since 2013. That's over a decade before finding Pillow's old RP stuff. Most ASMR artists I watch aren't vtubers and I don't watch GFE ASMR from other vtubers because what's the point. I don't feel anything if they're not my oshi and it feels like I'm intruding in another fanbase's intimate time with their oshi, but I'll watch normal vtuber ASMR, like Patra, Ikumi and...well...Karin.
You are letting people that aren’t pillow putting ideas in your head. Be happy. Ignore people speaking for pillow. Even if she says something, we don’t need to shove it down other peoples throats and shame them. Pillow wants everyone to be happy.
>>107601839Continue on and be happy piwwo
Pillow isn’t the type of girl to give you an ultimatum between choosing her or any other girl(s). She’s the type of girl who is more than willing to sacrifice some of her own happiness to try and keep you happy instead. It hurts her deeply when we cheat on her because she cares so much, so she tries to drop hints here and there that she sees and she knows. Sometimes, though, she will outright say it and will try to call you out in a playful manner. Just know that none of it is roleplay to her. It genuinely hurts her and it breaks her heart, but she’ll still try to make you happy even if she’s in pain. She can only hope that she can get the message through to you, that this is real to her and that you’re hurting her
>>107601839>KarinPillow would be very disappointed in you.
>>107571658my oshi would get very wet if she saw this rule 63
>>107601222I still watch Chroniko, mostly because she's been very open about not encouraging parasocial feelings, as well as not ever doing GFE. I view her in a purely professional manner. I did have to drop Nene once I decided to view Pillow as my oshi, since she's very parasocial.
>>107601917Sorry Pillow :(
>>107601791She isn't going to tell you to leave. Just enjoy what you like and do what you wanna do. I'm doing the same but I'm just being a bit more incognito about it but if she does go through my channel she'll see my asmr playlist and stuff anyway. I just won't bring attention to it if I can help it.
>>107601917This is pathetic melodrama. I'm operating on the assumption that Pillow is reasonable and understanding, after worrying for a bit that she really was upset with me and then deciding based on later interactions that she isn't. If I thought you were right, I would leave because I don't want to hurt her, but you're not.
>>107602269She has explicitly said this in stream before, just in her own words
>>107602327She also said that "romantic" piwwos should be aware of those of us who don't share those feelings. You're scolding us for "cheating" as if we see it as a romantic relationship like you do. We don't.
Please stop fighting.
>>107602402I agree with this. Pillow was being serious since it was a QA and saying she wants to make sure everyone is comfortable and sees pillow how they want
I see Pillow as a way-in to get to Olive's panties
>>107602047I haven't watched Nene in like a year or so she was good but I like Pillow better
>>107602663I stopped watching after her 3D reveal. Objectively it was hot but it made me realize she's not too far away from becoming the kind of vtuber I really don't like. I know about her history but up until that reveal she was pretty tame. I feel the same towards Kanna. Both nice ladies but they crossed the whore line and ruined something good they had for cheap money.
>>107602757That's valid I preferred her old model
If you could play a game 1 on 1 with Pillow what would you play with her? For me I'd love to play DayZ with her and teach her how to survive in the game and eventually thrive on a private server together.
>>107603774Great question. Honestly just Minecraft would be the best for me.
>>107603774I want to defend her from those flying snakes in the Stardew Valley mines
>>107603881My dream gaming fantasy with Pillow is her starting a series of streams wherein the two of us start our Minecraft forever world and spend hours and hours building and messing around with each other. I’m a redstone and farm guy so I’d be toiling away in the industrial zones whilst she decorates a little village for us to live in.
>>107603995That's nice man but I think I'd rather do that off-stream lol
I asked the original question about cheating in earnest because I really did want to stop watching other girls. I thought it could deepen my connection to Pillow even further, but this discourse got me thinking and I realized just how stupid this is.So I have to drop and completely ignore all these women offering me their comfort for free, while Pillow can receive the affections of thousands of men? This isn’t an equivalent exchange. Forgive me if I’m sounding like an anti, I really do love her. It’s just that I’ve been going so far out of my way in making my entire life revolve around a girl that probably doesn’t even like me or want me around, and I’m only now realizing how ridiculous that is.
>>107601600>>107601222I dont watch other girls and im tired of whorss speaking for other people and pretending like its okay
Like I said, don’t listen to other people who are putting words in her mouth and assuming things. Be happy and enjoy her and whoever you want. She wants you to be happy. The more you listen to randos here the more you’ll be sad
>>107604319Oh shut up retard, you're just a selfish asshole who doesn't even appreciate the person who loves you. Stop pretending to justify that choice and just be open about how you willfully hurt the people who care about you for selfish reasons
>>107604319Even as much as she goes out of her way not to treat anyone special, she's highlighted me specifically more than a few times and said explicitly that she's glad to have me around and appreciates me. She loves and adores the Piwwos, and has devoted her life to Piwwos. You have much more freedom than she does, if she were to say that she listened to a male ASMRtist, she'd have a career crisis. For you, she'd turn on her crying expression and fake cry for a minute.
>>107604398Yes you should listen to her own words only. Which means acknowledging that she feels bad if you watch other girls. She's said it numerous times. If you feel like ignoring her words you can act how you like, but let's not pretend she hasn't said what shes actually said here
>>107604319I think two things are essential for being loyal. The first is to genuinely love her, the second is to know you’re going to do many things for her that may go unnoticed. They’re both pretty self-explanatory, being loyal even she doesn’t know could be a way to prove your love even when nobody is watching. Keep in mind that there have been countless people who claim to have loved her but also needed constant attention and affirmations. Pillow is only one girl, she can’t possibly give every single last person one on one attention, she can only try her best. So when a disgruntled Piwwo doesn’t receive enough attention, or gratitude, or affection, or whatever else, they end up crashing out about it and they lash out at her in return. Please keep that in mind for what kind of fan you want to be for Pillow. She’s vocal about cheating, but you have to be aware that your loyalty may be rewarded with silence, even if she’s eternally grateful for it. Please keep that in mind
>>107604398If you really think randos should speak for her, then I think everybody here should listen to her members ASMR from May where she talks about exactly this
>>107604319If you're going to be a cheating piece of shit, just own it and stop expecting people to see you as anything more than worthless scum.
These conversations will make it harder to enjoy pillow and vtubers :(You should focus on the stuff that makes you happy
>>107602269>being upset or not is a binary stateautism maxing I see
>>107604594Not being a whore doesnt make anything less enjoyable, thats asshole logic
>>107604398All the cheating whores of the world can rest easy knowing it's okay to ignore judgment as long as betraying the people they love feels good and makes them happy
>>107604428>she's highlighted me specifically more than a few times and said explicitly that she's glad to have me aroundThat’s great for you. I feel like I’ve been getting the exact opposite lately. > if she were to say that she listened to a male ASMRtist, she'd have a career crisis. For you, she'd turn on her crying expression and fake cry for a minute.Well the obvious difference is that she gets paid to not cheat on the piwwos. Not saying that she would cheat otherwise, but it definitely makes it easier. She still receives infinite attention whenever she wants. Whereas, whenever I get attention from her it feels backhanded and forced, like it’s out of obligation. >inb4 brainworms, you’re schizo, fuck off antiI know what that sounds like but I like to believe I’m rational, that’s really how it feels to me. I’m sure it’s true she does appreciate the presence of 99% of piwwos. However, it’s only natural there are some people she dislikes and feels forced to put up with. Also don’t worry about me going anti. I promised myself that I would never crash out. Not only because I genuinely don’t want to hurt Pillow, but also that it would me totally humiliating. If this place wasn’t anonymous all this shit would come with me to the grave. If anyone found out I cared this much about a vtuber I’d have to die as soon as possible, no two ways about it.
This is why im eternally grateful to have a friend circle made entirely of gfe vtuber viewers and ex gfe vtuber viewersway less brainworms when you have a 40 person group chat who get it
>>107604551I said nothing about not receiving enough attention. I stated that I was doing it only for myself before I realized that it was a dumb idea.
>>107604812I was giving examples for others’ reasons for crashing outs. If you want to be loyal to her because you love and care about her, and want to protect her feelings, then feel free to go ahead. Be aware that you won’t get any special privileges or attention from it, though. If you want to do the opposite and have intention of doing so, then the absolute least you could is spare her feelings and not flaunt it.There was a guy here recently who tagged her on Twitter along with two other VTubers who was throwing a tantrum about not being noticed for calling all 3 an oshi. This is an example of the exact kind of thing that you shouldn’t do to her, unless you’re actively trying to hurt her
>>107604730I'm gonna be real, you gotta be a real piece of work if Pillow of all people genuinely doesn't like to interact with you. If you don't feel appreciated, you're free to go, if Pillow doesn't like you then she won't miss you.
>>107604319lol good for you man. I'm in awe at the replies.>selfish asshole>cheating piece of shit>worthless scum>cheating whoresThese people are insane and would have a personal crisis if they ever developed an ounce of self-awareness like you have.>probably doesn’t even like me or want me aroundShe does (probably, I don't know who you are) but I understand why you no longer want to be associated with these ridiculous people who obsess unhealthily over her. I loved her too, but this deranged behaviour drove me away.
>>107604604Where did I say that?
Pillow is my kamioshi and I am loyal to her but when she is offline i watch Miori or Nene. I've already rewatched all the ASMR Pillow has to offer and need something new. Not anyone's fault desu
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>>107604898>There was a guy here recently who tagged her on Twitter along with two other VTubers who was throwing a tantrum about not being noticed for calling all 3 an oshi.Why are you lying? Anyone can check the archive.https://warosu.org/vt/thread/107304554#p107357653I mentioned it without any complaint or anger towards her (more so concern that I'd upset her), then people pointed out that she likely missed it because I only tagged her and didn't use one of her hashtags, and I agreed.
>>107604898And I didn't call the other two "oshi". It's easy for anyone to find the post and check.
I decided to leave /pillow/ because of all the fighting and arguing. I wish we would all get along and talk about how much we love pillow rather than saying mean things to each other. I hope you all can go back to nice things one day
>>107605583I'm sorry that this was ruined for you.
Sex with Olive!
It's friday piwwos! Better practice your quick draws today!
>>107605583But if you leave how would you know if we're talking about good things? But jokes aside I understand fully, I'm part of this so I'm sorry piwwo.
This is why we need a resident fempiwwo. A female presence calms us all.
>>107605974I will in Dayz those damn zombies are getting to comfy lately
>>107606190I want to be relieved by a fempiwwo
>>107605475I generally think it's a little weird to even care an ounce about if a vtuber who isn't your oshi interacts with you.
If you take being called a "cheating whore" as a fan seriously, you have a problem. I always see this as a jest and nothing more.However, why even bring up other vtubers in a community based on one? At best, you just out yourself as not-as-dedicated and at worst, she sees your "Pillow don't look, I watch other asmrtist teehee" and it derails the current conversation.It just looks pointless and annoying to me and nothing else.
>>107606215Watch out for Androids!
>>107606491I think if you're just watching some other ASMR videos, it's whatever. Particularly non-GFE stuff, at that point it's definitely perfectly justifiable. Also, if you're not very involved with Pillow then it's not a big deal, do whatever you want, she won't know or notice. For me at least, I'm personally known enough that she'd be legitimately upset if I was thirsting under some girls posts or being active in another asrmtists chat. I don't want to make her upset, so whilst I do interact with other girls, I am very mindful to not say anything that could be misinterpreted or misconstrued in a way that might hurt her feelings.
>>107606357I already said this in that thread, but I like knowing that people who I post nice things about read them. It makes me happy. I don't think that's weird.>>107606491Did those posts look in jest to you? They were sincerely angry. Those weren't normal light-hearted reactions to what that guy said.
>>107606491>If you take being called a "cheating whore" as a fan seriously, you have a problem. I always see this as a jest and nothing moreStop watching GFE vtubers if you feel this way retard
>>107606569Will do! I might go bear hunting this weekend Yogi needs some lead in his diet this year.
>>107604998You only loved yourself
>>107606701That's very profound.
>>107606611Uh yeah, they have a problem. That's what I meant. >>107606649You will die alone.
>>107606678>bear huntingwhat the FUCK did bears ever do to you
I think there's a very strong disconnect because there's a certain segment on here of people who are more just casual Pillow fans, and then there are the legitimately devoted Piwwos. If I have spent months and months telling Pillow I love her, having her say it back, and her getting to know me and appreciate me, it'd make her feel absolutely awful to see me in one of her friend's chats. Think of it from her perspective, she feels like she's failed as a parasocial girlfriend AND as a content creator. And this isn't even speculation, it's happened before, she's literally called out Piwwos with relative frequency for being whores.
>>107606729They tried to kill me too many times when I was just chilling innawoods.
>>107606727I will die loving Pillow fag
>>107606751TrueThis LARP where people cant possibly be whores about this shit is absolutely pathetic
>>107606649It’s fascinating to me how Pillow keeps getting fans that not only dislike GFE, but actively detest it and act in ways that are hurtful to her. As a friend of mine says, “with fans like these, who needs antis?”
>>107606772You didn't even disagree with him. I'm truly sorry.
>>107606820I suspect that it's just 2-3 casual Pillow fans who are for some reason really sitting on the thread super hard for a girl that they aren't even particularly hardcore about. If you're a casual, you have a different outlook. I'm at the point now where if I'm late to a stream I've had people DM me and ask if I'm okay, I think if I were to start simping over some other girl on Twitter or whatever, Pillow would beat me with aa bag of hammers.
>>107606836And I'm sorry you're a whore who won't die loving Pillow
>>107606821I blame the discord
I really hope that someday we all get offline and find our girlfriends who are as lovely as Pillow. It seems that some of you have resigned yourselves to being alone for the rest of your lives, only interacting with Pillow and the other loners her. I'm sorry that you feel that way.>>107606891You especially.
>>107606889I cant imagine the mental illness required to actively come to this shithole site as the default for a hyper casual interest you dont particularly care aboutThe only saving grace about this entire board is that its basically the only place meaningfully invested fans can have any sort of public conversation, take that out of the equation and it's literally just garbage opinions from garbage people
>>107606936our own
>>107606936>>>/x/itter
>>107606936So brave
>>107606986Not really
>>107606990True, its was just you being a faggotAs per usual
>>107606942I have never once opened up this site except to read about Pillow, mostly because things like the public Discord, or even the things like the community Discord, never discuss any of the particularly juicy things about a vtuber. One of the nicest things about Pillow is going back through the archives and realizing that her biggest scandal is like... Deleting some old videos that are totally reasonable but just had some stolen art and weren't representative of her current brand very well.
>>107606895You actually get banned in the discord for being an anti-"parasocial" faggot so unlikely
>>107607033Archive diving is kinda different from actually posting and shitting things up
>>107607056Yeah but the discord if full of people that aren't even piwwos apparently so that really has to have some impact overall
>>107607083Oh yeah no, I was referring to myself as a meaningfully invested fan, just referring to one of my big reasons for being on here in the first place. I mostly just like to read the schitzoing and drama, but I stick to wholesomeposting mostly. It's really cool to read some of the older lore though.
I don't know, I think "Notta and the Yearners" raise some valid points
Despite Pillow literally asking devoted fans not to force their views on more casual piwwos, I'm going to continue shitting on anyone I perceive to be less dedicated than me.
>>107607056Actually I'd say that the Discord is weirdly anti-parasocial. Granted, I'm not on members chat, but from what I've seen as much as people love to go "I love Pillow!!!!", they suddenly get real serious and stern whenever complex feelings or genuine yearning comes up.
god damn some of you are really autistic and just miss a joke then argue for hours
>>107607123Because people are using that one singular comment to excuse their behaviour. They’re acting like it’s a shield and justifies their whoring around. They are willfully and knowingly going out of their way to hurt Pillow and they have zero remorse for it. And then they use this singular line to justify all of their actions and disregard Pillow’s feelings. People are throwing away years of Pillow’s proof of love over a singular line and don’t feel even the tiniest bit of remorse for hurting her
>>107607171There was a joke before all this shit?
>>107607198>They are willfully and knowingly going out of their way to hurt PillowCan you point out one instant of this?
>>107607115I think the reasonable position is that both sides on that topic are perfectly entitled to feel however they want about Pillow. She's responded to the threads before, and that whole war has come up a billion times, I'd say the reason she hasn't weighed in is because she wants Piwwos to feel however they want to feel.
>>107607115I thought you knew that I stopped feeling that way.
>>107607234That guy I mentioned earlier tagging Pillow along with two other ASMRtists while knowing full well she wants to be your one and only. That guy even posted his own archived post link
>>107607198I think you're taking it much more seriously than it is. These Piwwos are very obviously not particularly dedicated, and would not be noticed. While yes, Pillow tries to be welcoming to every single Piwwo, she obviously cannot be extending the full breadth of possessiveness to every single solitary person who is a fan. She's got 150k, of that 150k there's maybe 200 mildly dedicated Piwwos and like 40-60 very dedicated Piwwos. She's not gonna be hurt by someone she's not aware of cheating on her.
>>107607171What was even the joke here
>>107604922Yeah I know. The reason I haven’t left yet is that if there is even a 1% chance of fixing this, I want to take it. I tried just sticking around and continuing my support, thinking things might change after some time passed, the treatment has been consistent for a while now though.I don’t want any extra attention or special treatment from her. If I could have one thing it would a truthful answer to the question of if she would prefer me to be gone or not. Obviously I can’t ask her that. Even if I went through a private venue like her email, I couldn’t trust that the answer she’d give me is honest. If she did want me to fuck off, she’s way too nice to ever consider saying that. I feel like I’m just stuck in Limbo right now.>>107604898Have I not made it clear enough that I wouldn’t do anything to hurt her. To that end, I’ve never interacted with a single other chuuba on my twitter on the off chance she checks my account.My problem with the loyalty bit is not that it doesn’t earn you any special treatment. I’m saying the idea is stupid on its face, especially for someone in my position. We’ll have to agree to disagree on that.
>>107607280weirdly that wasn't actually me that time youre replying to someone else
>>107607198You really need to get a grip. Pillow is not that fragile.>>107607281As people in that thread pointed out, she happily replied to dozens of posts that didn't even have her as their top channel.
>>107607336I don't know who either of you are. I just thought people knew that, because I've talked about it.
I'm never going to take you seriously if you use the word "cheater" or "whore" to describe someone who watches two streamers.
>>107607450Eh, it's a context thing. I use the term "oshi whore" because it's funny, but Pillow has very intense feelings and if you choose to feed into those on her, you don't get to be surprised when you go back on what she consistently demands, in fact basically the sole thing she demands, and she is upset and unhappy. It's happened before. You can watch other streamers, you can even chat with them, but if you're calling other girls your oshi or getting super involved with them, her heart is gonna be hurting.
>>107607450Then clearly you don't care for GFE so why are you here?
>>107607381I feel like the whole thing of trying to track who's posting what or when is really shitty and defies the purpose of 4chan. If people want to give away their identity in a post, that's whatever, but it's always embarassing to be like "I know that's you ____", because they can always just say "No it's not." and they're providing just as much proof as you.
>>107607280This post could be a Morrissey lyric
>>107607534You're very reasonable and polite. I like you.>if you're calling other girls your oshi or getting super involved with them, her heart is gonna be hurtingI'm glad to say that I haven't done these things, because after what I've said to her I know it would hurt her.>>107607589lol thanks I was in the Smiths' top 0.04% of listeners in November.
>>107607089There's a reason those "people" are kept to their ghetto in chat-1
>>107607572I don't mind. I like the attention.
>>107607344>you are fragile if you're bothered by people cheating on youlol
Don’t forget the discord meet and greet where some guy explicitly said he didn’t care about Pillow and just wanted his discord role
>>107607450Please explain to the class why somebody like you who watches GFE while hating its more basic premise should be taken seriously
>>107607773You mean, watching other streamers.>>107607778That was upsetting to hear. I imagined her excitement turning to disappointment when they told her that.>>107607807You shouldn't take anything posted here seriously. Isn't that the motto?
>>107607714I haven't been a particularly dedicated Piwwo for very long, but I'm probably on the top 5 list for people in terms of daily engagement with her currently, and I just know that I never want to hurt Pillow and have her feel like she's not enough for me. I personally do stick to listening to no other ASMR but hers, mostly because I feel like the tiny cost of relistening to the same videos 30 times is very tiny comparative to how happy she'll feel whenever I mention to her that she helps me sleep every single nice. I don't blame anyone who doesn't do that though, not everyone can treat her a priority.
>>107607843If its a motto of this place why would you postabout it
>>107607843>You mean, watching other streamers>I didnt "cheat", I just put my penis in that woman
>>107607934I can only laugh at this comparison.
>>107607934Let's be reasonable here. For instance, even a GFE oriented gal like Nene could be watched if you're, say, watching her little video about how bad the new Assassins Creed is. She's not giving you ASMR, she's not treating you like a boyfriend. I'm sure Pillow wouldn't be particularly upset if she saw your youtube search history with that. Now, the real issues were if you started being super active in other girl's chat while she does GFE shit, especially if it's ASMR. Then, that's cheating territory.
>>107607778That was such a crazy thing to learn about. Granted I've never been into discord like others are but it's baffling to me that someone wanted a discord role that badly for a server dedicated to someone they didn't even care about.
>>107607996Yes yes we all know you have no capacity to recognize the expectations of others, including Pillow herself. You're very proud of your autism and love to remind everyone
>>107608030I'd rather not risk giving her a reason to worry, thinking about how somebody else might feel is a part of being a decent human being
I've noticed two specific phrases she says regarding cheating: "you don't let other girls take care of you" and "you don't watch other girls". The former is more reasonable if you're treating her as your girlfriend, where you don't watch other GFE/ASMR girls. The latter imo not as much. I personally don't watch other girls, but I think watching them casually purely as entertainers should be fine.
>>107608046I really do hope that it gets better for you. I can't imagine what has to happen in a man's life for him to treat a streamer as his actual girlfriend, and to scold her other "boyfriends" for "cheating" on her by watching other streamers. It's grim.I think it's cute to indulge Pillow's GFE stuff in a light-hearted way, but don't let yourself become this guy.
If you guys haven't figured it out this guy is clearly some troll so the best course of action would be to ignore his retarded ass.
>>107608334Agreed
Are /we/ retarded?
Time for our regularly scheduled horny posting?
lots of butts and boobs soonhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHUDcH0v15A
>>107608224>GFE anti posting in a GFE vtuber threadOnce again you are free to leave >>107608334True, he is here chronically though
Pillow loves me a lot and has indicated as such many times. I do kinda feel bad for Piwwos who haven't gotten very much special attention, but generally you just gotta give her special attention and you'll stand out. She doesn't want money, she wants you to do sweet things for her. Everyone go get her a present for Christmas (don't actually buy something, just make her something sweet, she'll fucking cry if people spend money on her like that)
>>107608457It would be better than arguing lol
>>107608544She gave me lots of attention. I felt lucky given how new I was and how comparatively little I interacted with her. My feelings changed for other reasons.
>>107608468Did Pillow tweet about this? How does she expect us to not watch other girls when she doesn't post about collabs herself
>>107608544I’ve done plenty of sweet things for her. More than 90% of piwwos, I’d say. I didn’t expect anything in return, but it does hurt that it doesn’t even afford me the same treatment she gives the piwwos that have done less, but that she clearly has an affinity for.
>>107608660What's the "never watch other girls" retards' explanation for why she does collabs at all?
>>107608728I'm sorry. Do you want to talk about it privately? Basically every time it's just that she hasn't gotten around to showing you some love. I've felt the way you do on a few occasions and she's always pulled through for me.
>>107608753She’s been vocal about wanting to support other girls. It’s why she does events like ASMR parade and her charity where she brings on tons of other girls. This is not her way of giving you permission. During the parade, she mentioned how torn up she was reading chat. It hurt her to see Piwwos give other girls attention, even if she’s actively promoting them. She wants to support her friends, and she wants to make Piwwos happy, and she’ll do that at the expense of her own feelings because that’s the type of girl she is
>>107608753The "Don't ever look at other girls" is her doing a yandere bit. She does feel serious about not treating other girls like a girlfriend, and not seeing them as you're oshi. She's perfectly fine with Piwwos appreciating other girls in a professional way, she just doesn't want Piwwos to love other girls.
>>107608857That's reasonable. It's not nice to tell someone you love them and nobody else, then prove you lied. People in this thread are going further than that in suggesting that watching or interacting with another girl at all is "cheating".
I'm convinced 70-80% of these posts is one shitposter larping as multiple piwwows. Might even be someone from the discord trying to derail this place to stop Pillow visiting or taking it seriously.
>>107606678Keep up the good work!
>>107609078You don't need help with that.
>>107609078When I said these threads revolve around my posts I meant it.You really thought I was bluffing??
See he openly admitted it
>>107608818I appreciate it but no thanks. I’m the guy who said he would kill himself if anyone ever found out I cared this much. I think I’ll just try to tough it out for now and hope it changes eventually.Also I’ve seen how you talk about other piwwos you’ve dmed lmao. I’m not trying to become another tale in the schizopiwwo mythos.
>>107609488You're confusing me with someone else. I wouldn't make fun of you or share what tell me.
there is no solid evidence that pillow comes /here/
>>107609689There's been a few hints and I have my suspicions, but apparently the only time she confirmed it was after the stream with her mother when she came here and saw all the gross sexual posts about them.
>>107609738i feel that it's olive that comes here to let pillow know what's happening here for the most part
Picking up Pillow from the couch to princess carry her in the bedroom. Catching a whiff of her scent and immediately redirecting to the bath because you can tell she hasn’t showered in weeks. Bathing and washing Pillow’s naked body from head to toe
>>107610045Very sweet and cute
>>107609985Well in that case Olive should open a throne and let me buy some lingerie for her in exchange for her used panties from 2016 with holes in them.
Wholesome-posting will save /pillow/.
Pillow isn't stream the collab so who's perspective should I watch from?
>>107610153Pillow will judge your choice and won't forget so don't post in chat.
>>107610153That's a good question, has Pillow hinted at supporting a certain participant?
>>107610090Pillers friend Shura is kinda hot desu
>>107610239She'd never do that.
>>107610419Well shit.
>>107610153choosehttps://youtu.be/cfqHMv1R4w4 Spicahttps://youtu.be/ARxZV0BuZX8 Shurahttps://youtu.be/9gFdRlcyHI8 DK
>>107610239Well she retweeted D.K. and Shura's stream tweets but not Spicaa's so maybe either of those two are the Pillow approved viewpoints.
>>107610571Spica doesn't normally do going live tweetsbut she did organize this collab
>>107608857>her doing a yandere bit>bit
>>107609689There is an unpleasant amount of solid evidence actually, thats the issue
>>107609738Her mom is pretty hot and she should bring her back on stream someday
>>107611276I'd like that. She was fun and they seemed to enjoy their time together. I wish they were on better terms.
It's very cute how much she's taking charge in this collab
>>107611589The mom of the group
That was a cute colab. Piller and her friends were very cute. This Shura girl is nice to look at.
Driving Pillow to get some takoyaki
>>107612773>This Shura girl is nice to look at
Changing Pillow's adult diaper and teaching her not to piss in the bed.
>>107609606Maybe I’ll take up your offer then. I thought you were the schizo therapist guy. Not tonight though, I’m in dire need of some sleep. How did you plan to get in touch? I’m not posting my name here.
Lighting up a nice toasty fire while Pillow prepares some delicious hot chocolate and cookies for us to enjoy while cuddling and holding hands under a blanket
>>107613013notta_w on Discord and Twitter>>107613458Cute
>>107613458th-then what?
>>107613561The magic happens
i miss fempiwwo
>>107612850i can't help myself please understand she just has her big tetas out and that outfit makes me go feral, even more so since we didn't get a piller stream today so i'm backed up
You wouldn't leave Pillow for a spicy latina butthole, would you?
>>107615272I'd have to think about it first and consider the pros and cons but Pillow is currently winning because I prefer her above anyone else
>>107615272Of course not, the average latina hits the wall at 24.
>>107615272I wouldn't. Pillow is to good to me.
Ginormous Olove!
>>107618246wife
pillow makes me happy and i hope the best for her
>>107612845me on the right!
Olive is nice but she ain't no Pillow
gonna cook up something
Gotham is safe tonight!
I hope I'm not annoying to her
I know i'm annoying to her
>>107625844>>107626852Stop being annoying then.
Pillow loves me a lot
I want to develop a fitness routine with Pillow where I treat her very kindly and work out with her, giving her easier versions of everything to do. When we go for a run I’ll wait till she’s gassed out, throw her over my shoulder, and head back home.
I wish I could invite her to spend Christmas with me and my family.
Pillow wants to see lots of photos of her cosplayer on Sunday. Don't let her down.
>>107628009That's very sweet piwwo :)
>>107628009Why pillow farts while running?
>pillow doing a naked ringfit stream and making no noise because there is nothing to clap
>>107628893I consider it a very important part of my job as a Piwwo to be sweet towards her. A cynic could say it’s manipulation, but I mean every single word. I am just blessed with the ability to articulate myself well and be brave about saying things other people wouldn’t say.>>107629074Garlic does actually make people fart more. The acids in it break down easily and make people gassier.
>>107630535>>107618246>Olive gets to smell all the toxic garlic pillow farts.Why even live? And since Olive is here, please marry me so we can be autistic about PCs together
During ASMR, I can hear Pillow shove the mic under her shirt to get heartbeats, but I never hear the mic touch any other fabric. Do you think she wears a bra during ASMR? Or does she intentionally keep it off for easy heartbeats?
>>107631422Most girls don’t wear bras at home cause it’s uncomfortable
>>107632379fempiwwo?
Fertilizing EggDear!
Fertilizing EggDear with my cock!
pillow playing the IsraelGPT game tomorrow... le sigh...
>>107634779her game tastes have always been shallow, it's not really surprising
I'm pretty happy about her playing expedition 33
>>107632379Fempiwwo my beloved. I thought you left us forever...
Why are all of Pillow's friend's so hot?
>>107635122She should sexpedition 69
https://youtu.be/7cun_mkN-RMPillow opens gifts from piwwos. There's a lengthy message in the description.
>>107638595What a sweetheart
Comfy morning seemed pretty dead. Granted, Comfy Mornings do tend to have lower CCV than most streams, but this one was sitting at 200 people. If I were purely selfish, I'd be happy about it cuz that necessarily means more attention for me, but above all I just want her to be happy. I do hope she isn't beating herself up about it, it just can sometimes be like that.It was nice to hear from her about how much she loves when Piwwos think about her, and how she wants to be on our minds 24/7.
Pillow cute!
Pillow's leaving voice replies in her comments now. Best new feature in years.
I've been active in her chat but never thought to leave a comment. The chance of a voice reply makes me want to, but I don't like how that'd look, so I won't.
>>107641929oh? probably has hidden term that google will use the audio for AI training
>>107642396at least comment whenever she posts a video.
>>107642489If it does and Pillow finds out she'll stop :(
>>107642489if you look at it on desktop it shows you an AI transcript of the message lel
>>107642504If I start now it'll look like I'm just fishing for voice replies.
>>107642549You're afraid of looking like you want to receive attention from Pillow? That's what we're all here for. And what is the point of leaving a comment on a video if not to receive acknowledgement, and hopefully a reply from the creator?I kinda get what you mean though. I'm not gonna start commenting, but it's because the BRUTAL humiliation in the scenario where I don't get a voice reply would be too much for me to handle.Do try to reply on any future videos from her. She always asks us to because it helps boost them in the algorithm. She also tries extra hard to leave as many replies as possible.
>>107642892It’s not brutal humiliation to be sweet to her. It costs nothing to give her the love that she deserves. I drop like 30 mins while I eat meals on drawing her cute little pictures and I’m sure they make her smile, that’s good enough for me. Once you start expecting things from her, you’re just gonna hurt your own feelings.
>>107643106I say plenty of sweet things to her through other venues. Many times I don't even know if she sees it, that's not the problem. It's the sheer amount of brainworms that would come from seeing other piwwos get replies from her while I don't. I would start thinking it's deliberate and that she hates my guts and wants me to get cancer and die, the whole suite.Before I was more well adjusted to all this, Whenever I would feel attention-starved I would start going through her twitter looking at all the replies she gives to other piwwos and get insanely jealous, that's when you know the schizophrenia has reached lethal terminal velocity.For the sake of my mental stability, I have to refrain from stuff like that. It's good to know your limits.
How do we feel about pillow deciding to become a school girl? We keep talking about the 3.0 but not the actual concept. She’s going to become an underage girl
>>107646392>How do we feel about pillow deciding to become a school girl?She's a good artist and pure of heart so I think it'll be cute and wholesome. I like what she's told us, like that the eyelashes are going to be more detailed. She should've leaned fully into the ordinary girl look by going with brown hair. Someone said she could have a magical girl transformation toggle, which would be a fun way to incorporate her more familiar design.
what if she wants to call chat sensei
Pillow wants a bf to treat her like a daddy, not an equal. She wants you to take full care of her.
>>107647629Being a school girl and pretending she’s 14 so Piwwos can be her big brother and take care of her
Gotham calls!
Do you guys have jobs? (Actual question)What do you do?