How did Sakana do it? How did his startup vtuber company succeed whereas other better vtuber companies failed? JIDF, Tsunderia, VAllure, Eien, Production kawaii, Projek Hikayat, Wactor, and Vshojo all failed and other smaller vtuber companies are on the verge of failure. Even Nijisanji and Hololive have fallen off recently while Phase Connect is thriving, stronger than ever before. What is his method of success, and can it be replicated?
>Phase Connect is thrivingkek
>>107640089there has to be better quality falseflags
Unironically, Muumi and Dizzy saved the company.
>>107640089>VAllure failedBy what metric?
>>107640089Lumi is carrying the company on her back. First western idol.
Isn't Phase just burning a hole in his pocket and he's fine with that because he can afford it and enjoys doing it
>>107641266No, phase connect is a profitable company. The margins are thin, but it is profitable.
>>107640089infinity crypto scam money
>>107640433Is this better or worse than another cancermouse or peanut thread?>>107641266Used to be. It breaks even these days.
>>107640089money in > money out
>Phase thread>It's actually just a Sakana dickriding thread
>>107640089He went 4/4 with his gen1 founding talents then hired hits in later gens
>>107640089Helps that almost all of his talents are chuds and right-wing with a few exceptions.
>>107640568Dizzy doesn’t do anything though.
>>107640089He didn't borrow money and blow it all at the start hoping to make money later. He just put some of his own cash in and let it grow, so when it started breaking even he could brag and not have to pay back millions of dollars with interest.
>>107640089First gen was a 10/10.
>>107640568dizzy did not do anything lmao
>>107641349When the margins are that thing it's not profitable anon.People like you never account for inflation and future investment costs.Hell just losing that one truck full of merch that one time probably put them in the red for the year.
>>107642400>He went 4/4 with his gen1 founding talentsI love how both Phasefags and the company itself just decided that the three JP founding talents don't count anymore except when it's convenient
>>107640089I would hate on this phase shill thread, but it's better than ironlung/peanut threads, so I'll let it go.
>>107640089By being a turbo chink jew whereever he can.He used his digital marketing background and connections from his previous companies he has worked in to get merch suppliers, he hires the bare minimum amount of staff, managers and assistants and relies on hiring multifaceted talents and mooch off of their free labour for designing art, layouts (ex, Dizzy has a background in business management and HR, Jelly in music production, and Shiina has confirmed that when she was still in the basement she helped out with the art in the earlier years, etc...) He doesn't seem to be splerging whatever gross revenue the corpo is earning on outrageous bullshit (unless you considered Phase Con and the new Phase invador as an outrageous expense) and mainly sticks to marketing through the talents and the main phase website and store and advertising from the verious cons and meetups. He is literally succeeding because he is doing the bog standard practices of running a business.
>>107651831>new Phase invader album as an outrageous expense)*
>>107641155Lumi isn't even top 5 in the company, how could she be carrying the company on her back?
>>107651902>Lumi isn't even top 5 in the companyWhat? She beats Pippa, Shiina, and Lia in terms of popularity.
>>107650381profit is positive. it is not lucrative but it makes enough to cover cost for growth and he has balanced the sheets long enough you can understand they have back up plans for events or know when to go thin. The problem is they took forever to get 3D but considering it is the Western audience unless you have a system at home like Filian it doesn't work. After all even HoloEN have to constantly fly to Japan for work. Lets not talk about NijiEN 3D standards
Why isn't clara being talked about more? She's one of the most talented members.
>>107640157>Has its own Con coming up. >Starting to hand out 3d concert models to those with less than 100k viewers.>Probably in the range of 50 or more covers and original songs put out just this year. >Talents are all getting updates to their models, either this year or coming year. >3 more 3d events like Lia's are scheduled for next year for Origins talent. pay attention anon.
>>107653730Depends on how you want to gauge metrics. She's Third if you add twitch plus yt numbersShe's 7th if you only look at YT numbers, and no either way she's not more popular than Pippa.
>>107654439>Has its own Con coming upThis isn't good thing and none of the talents wanted it, it's just Sakana jerking himself off
>>107655365>This isn't good thing and none of the talents wanted it, it's just Sakana jerking himself off>I'm psychic and know what the talents want. OK.
>>107640712it's a shit, falseflagging thread, don't believe what the OP says. I don't watch Vallure but everybody can see that they are stable, and even are doing good money.
>>107641266no
>>107655404>I'm psychic and know what the talents want.Yeah, I use this incredible ESP technique called "watching streams"
IMcucks deflecting real hard rn KEK
>>107655741Haha
>>107640089>How did Sakana do it?Just like with hololive, he somehow managed to avoid hiring the menhera crazy women. LIke you would think Pippa would crashout but instead she became popular. He himself does not do anything special.
>>107655741ehhh at least they rubbed some brain cells together and came up with a plausible topic
>>107640089Imagine on your first try>hires a generational grifter and goldmine in Pippa>hires a concert violinist in Uruka>hires a dancer the level of Hajime/Bae in Lia>hires an exceptionally entertaining and creative streamer in Tenma4 girls 4 different skill sets. All found from the mud.
>>107655741Fixed
>>107654248Because she's a medicore streamer and an unlikeable person. Outside of singing there's simply no reason to watch her and if all you care about is singing there's an entire industry of people who do it better Clara doesn't do anything with her ability to use blender or rigging anymore, she doesn't do fun or creative streams like Grease or photoshop anymore, she doesn't communicate with her fans at all anymore unless you join her personal groomcord, she doesn't collab or join company events anymore, she never made use of being able to speak Japanese in terms of content or collabs.Basically Clara is another case of the Potential meme where on paper she has everything needed to be amazing and yet pisses it all away and does nothing but make people lose interest in her
>>107654248Controversy. Probably. Does she even stream anymore?
>>107660524desu pippa, tenma and uruka were expected. well maybe not pippa being as big as she got, but she knew exactly what content she was gonna do and she did itlia revealing herself to be a skilled dancer and becoming the agencys first true 3d idol is the most surprising thingthe amount of trust they continually put in her says a lot
>>107654439>Probably in the range of 50 or more covers and original songs put out just this year. There's A LOT more than 50.You can minus 17 from this screenshot if you don't want to count acapella, interlude and instrumental tracks and there's another 8 songs from the past 2 weeks I haven't added. This list excludes YT shorts covers since they're like a third of a song.Multiple girls have confirmed there's more music this month, they'll have another group Christmas cover guaranteed as well and Runie confirmed today that her album is still on track for release this month
>>107661004Pippa was a complete failure pre-phase and her content at debut was nothing like it ended up being later on. Her blowing up the way she did was completely unpredictable even Pippa didn't think things would work out
>>107661004For better or worse depending on if you like idol stuff or not, her dancing changed the trajectory of idol activities for the company. Phase 3d was one way, she danced at ANYC, and then it was anotherthey can say "haha wannabe yagoo" but fishfag saying Lia saved the companys idol dream is legitimate. Given all the previous failures and difficulties with 3D from years gone by and putting the tech in the wrong hands, i get the sense he was about to abandon it and just keep things 2d like they always were.She is not the biggest, so it says a lot about her that she was widely glazed as the standout of the first company concert, and then gets the massive pressure of doing the first 3d live for the company. She was absolutely fearless. even brought Mint on who could have easily mogged her because she is the Mint Fantome, but she didn't give an inch and went move for move and matched stage pressence.
>>1076400890.6% is thriving huh? Phasefags have a really low standard
>>107661632Lia is the vtuber equivalent of a clutch player, she always rises to the occasion when she's put on a big stage
>>107661721more like 10% of the EN sphere but that just proves how big JP vtubing is.
>>107661113I knew there was a shit load, I just was basing it on what I could remember. Either way they have been pumping it out this year and for the other anon to say they're not thriving, and making an impact is retarded.
>>107661721By all means drag out the Streamcharts so we can point out how they're fucking around with the numbers. Cause now they're pandering to a nutsack.
>>107640089Hey that one anon was right , the "how does he do it" thread came after like clockwork
>>107640089He has a good eye for talent
>>107663103Yup. Every. Single. Time. OP being so shameless tells me he probably thinks "who cares if they are onto me? Sakana pays me to make the threads, he never said anything about not getting caught"
Isn't VAllure doing alright? Don't think I'd put them in the failing side, at least yet.
>>107666427No
>>107662800Yeah, they're all basing it on Streamcharts without seeing anything that the company is actually doing, when we already know that Streamcharts isn't trustworthy.>>107662885I'm betting that they'll eventually put the peanut on that chart and say that he's matching the entirety of Holo or Niji.
>>107654439>Has its own Con coming up.Overall I'd say the company is doing everything right to stay stable to this day, but I cannot see this con turning out as anything other than a shitshow.Assuming there's even enough attendance from indies (>im-fucking-plying that Holo/Niji/Brave will send their own to promote another company) to attract a decent number of people, they're going to learn that a lot of problems come from organizing a con. It's easy to shit on Offkai every year but it's another thing entirely when it's you in charge.>>107666427Sadly facing a graduation already, but nothing close to hinting a decline. Cuttlefish seems to be running a tight ship.
>>107666427Gen 2 has been kind of mid, save for Ceru who’s in YouTube jail and about to lose her account
>>107668642Brave would absolutely they do not care
>>107640089Your """"based"""" vtuber, sir.
>>107669632Sakana will finally have Lisa in his clutches, singing and dancing for his event...
>>107640089isnt the fish loaded from other business ventures? this is like his version of owning a football or baseball team, no?
>>107642136>look inside a Phase stream>story about Sakana for 5-10 minutes straightThe rate that this happens it has to be corpo mandated.
>>107671251
>>107670174I dont think Lisa would want to
>>107671340Didn’t he steal that one girls model?
>>107671568Her consent is not needed.
>>107671823Yeah but she won in court and got it back after 2 years.
>>107672252> got it back after 2 years.That’s pretty fucked up
>>107672252no she didn't.she literally said always owned it and she chose not to reactivate it until recently.
>>107672324It's not true.Yuri said she has always owned Amaris Yuri and it was her choice to not use it.
>>107672324It's even more fucked up that Phasecucks will defend that.
>>107672513I don't know what Yuri did to get fired, but I do know none of the Phase girls ever talk about her and I've never seen such a visceral level of hate between vtubers as Rie has for Yuri on her rm account
>>107672513Look at:>>107672386>>107672338
>>107673531>none of the Phase girls ever talk about herhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmriThGt1zE
>>107673705pippa is a nigger who associates with the lowest form of people, so her still being friends with yuri hedges things that yuri really is a dickhead
>>107673810true
>>107672338she also went around "leaking" to other indies that she didn't have access to it and that he stole it, despite having it the whole time
>>107676820No buys. She literally said publicly she has always owned and had access to Amaris Yuri and it was her decision to not use it until recently and that she never sold it.Sorry Yuri destroyed your narrative that Phase stole her IP, cause they did not.
yuri is a liar and a whore who deserves being left behind like she was
>>107678621Ok post the stream where she said all that, with timestamps.
>>107678704Check her twitter. It is in written form.
>>107678736Then post the tweet.
>>107678761https://x.com/AmarisYuri/status/1992471870395052146
>>107678869That’s Lumi skin walking Yuri. Idiot.
>>107678869That literally doesn't support what you said at all?
>>107679009It does. I know they dont teach literacy in Pakistan, but good grief.
>>107679009But I learned one new thing about her, that her "termination" was literally not even a real termination and she did nothing to get terminated. She just let her contract expire without renewing and Phase Cucknet coped by posting a termination notice and allowed phase cucks to come up with all kinds of slander that she addressed in her post.
>>107679109You also learned that she says she created Amaris Yuri IP, which is a lie. She is not even the first Amaris Yuri.
>>107679088It doesn't mention that she owned her IP the entire time, just that she created it before Phase and owns it currently. Nowhere does she mention that she didn't have to buy it back from the fish, nor that it was her decision to not use it etc.
>>107679109Again she's lying. Read carefully.
>>107679109if you check the replies, she gets called out on this and agrees she was terminated and she misspoke
>>107679209Amaris Yuir is her IPFuura Yuri is PHASE's IP She always had the right to the Amaris name and likeness, but she allowed people to think that Phase had somehow stolen that.
>>107679233I really want to know why you phasecucks love to lie so much about her?
>>107679209she says she has owned amaris yuri since 2021. he never transferred ownership rights to it because she never sold it.she didn't own fuura yuri.>nor that it was her decision to not use it yes she did. she said she was not ready to be yuri until now, and only wanted to come back as her when she was ready and it was the right time. she said she was not ready then and wanted to start a new character so she could grow and find herself or some gay shit
Will never not be laughing at Yuri for fucking up her career so hard.
>>107679355>she says she has owned amaris yuri since 2021. No, she says she created the character in 2021.There's a massive difference and nothing you said is supported by the text she provided.What stands out is that she said "Everything has been reviewed and handled properly", which implies the opposite to me, if anything.
>>107679009What part of "I am the legal rights owner" and "I always intended to come back" Did you not understand?>inb4 but she could've sued......No, there are no public court case records that expressly show that Phase has been involved in. Even if the complaint party was a Jane Doe, the filings would at least show up.
>>107679521you are gonna believe whatever you convince yourself to believe.yuri said she has owned amaris yuri since 2021 and that she wanted to create a new character to find herself as a creator with the intent of going back to yuri as a side character when she was ready, which she is now.don't be upset at me. be upset at yuri for ruining your rrat that the big bad sad girl company ruined her life and fire her and took her ip, none of which happened.
Yuri, I know that you are in this thread. I do not hate you; in fact, I wish the best for you, but it is sad to see all of this samefagging.
>>107679539>I am the legal rights ownerRefers to the present. She didn't say "always" like you implied.>I always intended to come backA different sentence which doesn't contradict the idea that she didn't have access to her IP for some time, just that she never intended to give up on it. Good for her that she has it now.
>>107678869>Phase didn't terminate me, I didn't renew my contractso this is black mark #1 removed for Phase Connect. They now never fired a talent as it turns out, according to the talent>Phase never owned Amaris Yuri. They owned Fuura Yuri. I always had Amaris Yuri and choose not to use her until now because they time is right and this is black mark #2 removed for Phase Connect. They now never stole a talent's IP as it turns out, according to the talentPhaseCHADS how do we keep winning?
>>107679227Yeah they were lying and she just let her contract end without renewing, what about it?
>>107679695How is blatantly lying about a talent who wants to leave of her own will removing a black mark?
>>107679695based phase gods
>>107679799The record has been corrected. Phase, according to Yuri herself, never fired her. So Phase has never terminated a talent. the 2 biggest bullets fired at Phase were they terminated a talent and took her IP, both things that are factually now untrue neither things happened according to Yuri.So this is a double Phase win and they now have no blemishes on their record. Damn it feels good to have a clean record TY Yuri for setting the record straight
>>107679894Instead Phase now lied about a termination and attacked her reputation which is way worse and the second thing isn't supported by what she said at all.Are you ok, Phaseshill? Huffing all this copium can't be good for you.
>>107679695>>107679894IT'S GREATTO BE A PHASE CONNECT CHADI SAID IT'S GREATTO BE A PHASE CONNECT CHAD
>>107679894Do you get paid in coffee?
>>107679799>>107679985>I'd rather believe some woman on the internet with known mental issues, over that of a corporation that has legal liabilities. If that's the case, then maybe another mentally ill woman will bring some sense to you?
>>107679695common phase win
>>107679894Is that image made on IA? Tenma's legs are wrong.
>>107680331What am I supposed to do with this fully out of context tweet anon?Go on please give me more information.
>>107680529Oh so you don't know who this is? I thought you knew everything about Yuri's situation? That's Himemiya Rie's RM account, and that is in response to Yuri/Kiba claiming that there were false narratives out against her. Now If Yuri was 'unfairly terminated' then why does even now several years out that Rie still has a vendetta against this woman?
>>107680962I think you are hallucinating again, where did I say I know everything about her situation?Nobody but she does and a lot is behind a permanent NDA as she said in that tweet so it's difficult for her to defend herself.>that is in response to Yuri/Kiba claiming that there were false narratives out against her.Post that tweet.>Now If Yuri was 'unfairly terminated' then why does even now several years out that Rie still has a vendetta against this woman?Do you want me to speculate? I could think of a few reasons that don't contradict what Yuri said at all.
>>107679695>9 100k subsHow long have they been around? 5 years? With how loud their fans are, I thought they are way bigger
>>107681199Calm down your tits; the picture is the tweet response to Yuri, which is an easy search. I will not put a screenshot so that you can watch it yourself.
>>107683510phase connect are a small corpo.no other western small corpo has even had 4 playbuttons
>>107683573Yet they acted like they are the new Hololive but when you compare 5 years Hololive vs Phase connect they are not even close, not even mention Hololive started when vtuber was very niche
>>107683859not my problem you get worked up over a small corpo
>>107683905Nah, I was expecting them to be way more bigger with how their fans hype them up, my bad I guess for taking shill posts seriously
>>107684125they really like their vtubers. in sports, a lot of times the most rabid and passionate fans belong to smaller market teams. Like the Green Bay Packers.
>>107680331These were also posted an hour after Yuri posted her Q&A
>>107684639and yuri was passive aggressive and retweeted thosereally showing she has not matured and not the "different person" she claim she changed to be
>>107684286I don't see their passion to be honest, only numberfagging and "look our chuuba is based please watch" I don't know if it's the talent problem like they don't really have clipable moments tho or it's just their fans are lazy and then you also remember they don't even have to learn different language to make a clip like how people make clips of HoloJP
>>107684985Phase has tons of clips, they even have clippers in other languages
>>107685097The problem is their fans would rather shitposting in catalog than sharing their clips then
>>107685954passion comes in different formsin soccer, there are fans who are ultras and hooligans
>>107684985Phase has about 20-30 regular clippers as far as I can tell, with about 10 of them being paid clippers by the talent. Jelly has RvE, Tenma has NotTheo; Kotazuma, Lazy Clipper, Necro also come to mind. Just because it doesn't pop up on your Algo doesn't mean that its not happening, its just your content is probably focused on Holo. >>107685954Why would anyone post clips in here? Most people would be complaining even more about shilling or responding with "Watch Streams">>107685097Most of their EN clippers are ESL funny enough.
>>107686007>Why would anyone post clips in here? Most people would be complaining even more about shilling or responding with "Watch Streams"It's shilling either way but posting clips,timestamps and talk about them is better than just shitposting, how do you think Hololive got many popular clips? All of them magically got blessed by algo when they were still small?
>>107640568It was all Muumi. Dizzy was giving the worst advice to Sakana.
