Cover told Kiara her album sales were not high enough and it's stressing her outhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dp-ngCTKffQ&t=7215s>"Takanashi Kiara, the current number of reservations could be better," is what I was told.
>>107653734Good.
>>107653734Hololive is a black company
>>107653734who is pushing this number faggotry unto them? Is it their personal managers or the general branch manager or who?How much was this a factor on the graduated talents?
>>107653852Don't be naive, anon. It's a publicly traded company now. All that matters to the public share holders is for the line to go up.
>>107653734All this means is that her album sales aren't high enough to justify further investment into her music career by Cover. I don't think this really bothers anyone but Kiara. If the fans wanted that kind of content they would've bought her album.
it’s fucking over for myth. this concert is kiara and ina’s last big hurrah before graduation. brapper will be the only one remaining, unfortunately. screenshot this.
>>107653852The investors kekaroo
>>107653734I was gonna ask "People like Kiara for her singing?" but I suppose this confirms that no, they don't.
>>107654024>People like KiaraNo
>>107653852Business is for numberfags. That's the whole point. Popular artists sell more merch.
>>107653967>I don't think this really bothers anyone but KiaraWhat do you think happens when idols feel butthurt about the company not wanting to invest in their career?
Who the fuck cares about Kiara?
>>107653734People should learn their limits. Just because her co-workers album sales is high doesn't mean hers is also going to be high.
>>107654166Yeah, well, Kiara was never going to get what she wanted. She wants to be a singer but there's just no audience for that from her. Leaving Cover isn't going to change that. And I think deep down she knows all of this. She knows no one wants to hear her sing, she just hopes she's wrong.
>>107654024her singing is unironically what she does best. She's put out some bangers with great videos, its sad they dont get more attention
maybe they should sell more stock on geekjack since it's actually sold the fuck out right now, hope this helps mane-san
>>107654001Imagine that. That one that was the most likely to drop out, the one who said herself she didn't like idols and joined on a whim, is today the one unmovable pillar of EN. Wiggers Win!
>People can't differentiate between numberfagging in business and numberfagging shitposts
>>107654001Ina enjoys doing idol stuff but she isn't concerned about making music her career, she's not going to graduate over a lack of sololives when she still has FES and birthday lives every year. Kiara is the one who constantly tantrums to management about not handing her everything she wants on a plate, and ofc when they give her the opportunity to put her money where her mouth is...she can't.
Didn't her album and Ina's EP both sell out pretty much immediately? Could have sworn they made tweets about having to do a restock to meet demand or something
>>107655035I don't think albums can sell out, it's a pure preorder and they want as many sales as possible
>>107653734Her voice is awful, it's not really surprising.
>>107654354>her singing is unironically what she does best.Damn, that's rough.
>>107653734Cover is stupid, fuck their #fagging, they hired a streamer not a singer. Irys and ERB are the only ones who can sing there
>>107653734>Cover told Kiara her album sales were not high enough and it's stressing her outhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dp-ngCTKffQ&t=7215sWe are several years into a recession and Cover is complaining that merch sales for a physical CD aren't higher? With tariffs of course sales are suffering and they wouldn't even let fans bundle the Drawn to Dawn CDs with other Hololive merch.>>107653852>How much was this a factor on the graduated talents?When they had 7 graduations this year that is a relevant question since management is doing something that is burning out talents. Cover is not a charity I do expect them to want higher sales but it's curious that several talents left because they didn't like the direction of the company.>>107654001>kiara and ina’s last big hurrah before graduation.No, I don't trust Cover but they wouldn't hype up an expensive concert only to announce a graduation. Cover is way too greedy for that and both of them have signed a contract for at least 2 more years or they wouldn't be getting a concert.
>>107655351They're perfectly fine with her being a streamer. Her streaming job isn't in any danger. She's the one who wants to be a singer and whether or not Cover will support her in that is dependent on the album sales.
>>107654001Calling it now, if she graduates, she'll try IRL streaming again, then get back into cosplay, and that'll snowball into doing full on Onlyfans.She'll be known as the biggest tragedy in Vtubing history on the same level as Belle Delphine.
>>107653852Why do you forget that Cover is a company? They need PROFITS. If some bum streamer can't sell enough to make up for the production costs then she is a waste of time.
>>107653734KWAB
>>107655915Other holomems already do it so she might as well get started.
>>107655915it would be kino if she did asuka onlyfans stuff…
Be honest, would you pay for and fap to her sextape
>>107655915>start
>>107654001Hololive is still Ina's side job
>kiara your album number are bad shill moreTHIS IS BLACK COMAPNY SHIT SOMEONE HELP HER SHES JUST A CHILD - the vtubing (((community)))Have you not worked a single job before?
>>107653734Is she just trying to gift over the JPs crashout?
>>107656327Yeah well, I'm looking for Ina's side boob.
>>107655915No the worst that can happen is mud wrestling
>>107653967what's the point in being in a corp if they won't invest into her music??? at this point their just siphoning funds from her.
>>107653734Do you want them to lie to her about her album flopping?
>>107656487well apparently it is for middle management to hold a decent job while pushing more work and pressure on the talent to justify your additional existence to the org.
>>107656487She is free to go but it's not like there's anything better out there.
>>107654354>great videosaka "press 4 to look at my ass"
>>107653734>EN
>>107655420>No, I don't trust Cover but they wouldn't hype up an expensive concert only to announce a graduation.Anon….. This is exactly what happened with Kanata…
>>107653734Fes and her duolive being so close together is going to fuck things up, why would you go to USA when you can experience Japan
>>107653734What's she supposed to do about this exactly? They should know she isn't the most popular Holo.
Kiara is such a sweet girl I only wish her the best.
>>107656487No amount of money is going to force people to listen to bad music.
>>107656947Telling management, that she wishes the concert to be in California instead of Tokio was one of the biggest blunders in her Holo career.
>>107654457Fixed shipping + you can't order anything else with it makes it expensive as fuck to order on hololivepro store from overseas
>>107656910You're talking to the most infamous schizo on the board. And it's the exact opposite of what happened with Kanata, she knew she was graduating while doing her live show but she didn't tell anyone until that was done because it was her big goal to accomplish and then she had no more incentive to stay. Kiara will hopefully do the same but she wouldn't tell them beforehand or they would cancel it.
>>107656487So you acknowledge she has no music worth investing in? Because if your claim is she doesn't need investing and should therefore go indie, then she also can't be bothered that they aren't investing because she doesn't need it. You have to pick a narrative.
>>107657181Her choices are either make music that appeals to JP audiences since they are the ones buying vtuber albums or make music that is good enough to get picked up by a real record label like Mori. You're not getting far with music just for a small part of the Western audience to buy as a novelty.
>>107656389These people can't genuinely be as retarded as they pretend. She literally tells these stories all the time because her fanbase is tiny but it's mostly hyper-whales and so she's really just trying to sell them into over-supporting her. She's the scummy salesperson in the scenario, not Cover.
>>107656487The bar gets raised because the fixed costs get blown out. But they aren't fixed just fire some useless managers.
>>107653852They are pushing it on themselves you fucking retard. Are you somehow so stupid you thought that people just go to the money tree whenever they need it and it grows back before the next person needs? The only talents that have these problems are the ones who are asking for money that they can't justify being able to earn back, they would face even more setbacks if they asked for money in the real-world. Banks are nowhere near as generous.
>>107657354damn right, it's all bloat for gods sake
>>107657305or they should just assign most of the stock to geekjack who know how much it costs to ship a single cd
>>107653734this makes no fucking sense considering they apparently have to self-fund everything they do. what's it to cover if the songs or albums don't have enough sales then?
>>107653734Were they not supposed to tell her this or something? I'm confused.
>>107657595They should have lied and told her she has the best selling album ever and then gave her a solo live at Madison Square Garden.
>>107657583Do you want people to think you're a retard? Merch is always limited because they know they are selling to a small group, the limits can be guessed at based on how popular they think you are but if you can't even reach those limits, there's a problem. It's no longer financially worth it for any of the business partners or Cover.
>>107653734not everyone can be part of miko and suisei clique like mori and get better sponsors and visibility
Good, she's a misandrist cunt that should've never gained any attention.
>>107657663did you reply to the wrong person?
>>107657733They don't self-fund their merch and you've never believed they do despite pretending to. Merch funding is a gamble placed on the fans under the assumption they will in fact end up buying it.
>>107657733no the guy has narrow vision or is reflection Hololive's current thought process. Instead of endorsing all of their talents equally or rewarding after a time / presenting their opportunity they prioritize others with their 'limited resources / manpower' for their 'monthly budget' and keep putting others back of the que. Then they say bullshit like 'o you don't have enough fans buying your product to justify a next one' as feedback. You can tell why even their number 1 seller Aqua eventually decided they should shove all their numbers up their ass because they were always going to pester her to do this and that like Suesei but she was streamer focused first and wanting to take it at her pace.
>>107658073damn, i guess they're all lying then because some random fag on /vt/ said so
>>107656947I don't know why the girls insist on doing the concert in the US. Americans have more disposable income than anyone else to fly out.
>>107653852>he belieb that nip business ghouls don't care about noombers because anontachis told him so
>>107653734
>>107657221>Kiara will hopefully do the same but she wouldn't tell them beforehand or they would cancel it.Holy shit anon you call others a schizo but why are you seething this much over Kiara? I am not that big into sololives since they seem like a waste of money compared to a 3D live but this has always been one of her big dreams. Cover is a business they definitely forced Kiara to renew her contract for at least 2 years before they would hype up an EN sololive which is more risky (the EN fan base is spread out across the world).>>107657341>She's the scummy salesperson in the scenario, not Cover.That is corpo bootlicker logic and the ones that are most responsible for the GFE is Yagoo and upper management. If you don't agree with the Hololive business model it doesn't make any sense to defend Cover.
>>107653734This bitch is always complaining about something, you got your concert shut your fucking trap
>>107653734>>107653801>>107653812>>107653967>phasepag faggotry making up shit The new tariff BS is what's fucking things up and Kiara's reasoning here is that She can't even play 5 seconds of each song to entice KFP it's directly affecting reservations
>>107653852You don't money off of good vibes
>>107658999My brother in Christ, this entire industry is just selling good vibes as a consumable product.
>>107654001Falseflagging faggot the concert already sold out , it's the album that's having issues
>>107653734/#/ is going all out in this thread lol
>>107655141Kiara's album is sold out right now on the english site
>>107656637are you complaining? gay if so
>>107658972>>107659176>>107659367Seriously, most holofans knew that yagoo begged miko to stay when she underperformed so bad that only one person attended to her meet and greet. This thread is just circlejerking echo chamber for holoantis. Hell, this whole board have been like that since the hack. It's hilariously sad when these retards genuinely believe that hololive is over for the nth timetime every week.
>>107659468https://shop.hololivepro.com/en/products/takanashikiara_2ndalbum_vogelfreiThe fuck are you talking about?
>>107659540Yagoo from back then is very different from the current Yagoo
I pay for youtube premium and a membership to Kiara. I'm not buying merch because it doesn't appeal to me at all for its price point. Everything I could want out of a Kiara Album is going to be available online for free (though, some of my youtube premium money will go to my streams of it)
>>107653734Kiara has nothing going on for her other than the fact she got lucky and joined in as HoloMyth. Her entire life is centered around her massive sense of entitlement (which she hides behind a facade of low self-esteem) a caricature of a person. From being a misandrist to her favorite vacation place being in the Maldivas and even working as an "idol", it all centers around that.It's no wonder she lashed out on her viewers after getting 1 million subs (last of her gen). Me? Kiara? The runt? No way!She has to constantly scream in to the void because otherwise no one will remember she exists and the cockroaches that call themselves fans incentivize this behavior to the extreme.>Kiara is whoring herself out for views again, please watch! arigatou gozaimashita! (OP vod has her twerking. Nice going, Kiara!)But poor little Kiara. Always getting mogged. What good does knowing Japanese if no one wants to collab with her? If Mori imitating a gaijin accent gets all the laughter? A lot of people left HoloEN yet the spotlight never came to her, I wonder why is that?I can only imagine how much she was drooling when Holotori Dance was being animated. >"I copy Subaru's entire gimmick and put myself as the leader...Japanese viewers here I come!">"Someone commited suicide? My time to shine!"I feel no pity.
Only anti social losers that can't stand extroverts hate kiara and mistake her personality for narcissism.
idk why the idea of kiara being done with vtubing seems so impossible to people. she has stonks, shitcoin, multiple properties. she’s set for life, and has been complaining about holo more and more.
Crazy Kiara managed to be a failed idol twice.
>>107659540And A-chan and Shinove were happy to be a part of that version of Cover. What's your point?
>>107653734That's part of her / their job and can play a part in helping her to further her music career, why shouldn't they inform her?
>>107657583>they apparently have to self-fund everything they doNo, they don't. What were you smoking?99.99% of merch releases aren't self funded (the very few ones that are, like Lamy's wine, are extremely rare). Albums / EPs sales aren't self-funded. Concerts (solo lives / duo lives / normal 3D lives) aren't self-funded (with the exception of some 3D lives in case talents want to use external studios, in which they'd be partially self-funded).Some activities / stuffs are self-funded (i.e: making MVs) but they don't self-fund everything. If anything, self-funded stuffs are of the minority
Ironmouse deflection thread, you guys know that her fans are awake at the opposite time of this right? Youre being paid to make these so at least let her get her money's worth.
>>107653734I didn't know she even had another's album. Gas it been advertised properly?
How are (You) letting the holomems down, holoGODS?
>>107661582Yes, she's just unpopular + an entitled narcissist, a particularly unpleasant combination.
>>107658776Why did you reply to me just to say you agree but in a tone as if I raped you. Her 3D live was one of Kanata's biggest dreams too. That's why she had no problem lying to everyone until after it was over. Kiara has every potential to fit the pattern but we (and Cover) won't find out until the live is over.
>>107653852>who is pushing this number faggotry unto them?Out of all the women in Hololive, you decided to make a post like this about Kiara? You realize that you're essentially asking "what color is the sky" right? She's been in a constant state of self inflicted stress since debut due to her number obsession. There is nobody in HoloEN with a bigger case of it aside from MAYBE Fuwamoco. She is her own worst enemy, and her manager telling her this is probably 100% a result of her own need to always know how she's performing in the market.Fucking tourist board.
>>107655915She need to get back to wrestling. She'll become a pro-star I believe.
>>107662297/threadKiara was so obsessed with numbers she outright told Ina in a collab she got to 1mil first only because her birthday aligned with final push needed to hit the milestone.Kiara thanks Raora everyday for finding that dumbass doom spell that kickstarted her first ever organic viral moment
It's not just Kiara's album, but every CD/Blu-Ray from the hololive shop needs to be purchased separately. It doesn't affect Japanese customers as much but they definitely underestimated the overseas effect.
>>107663557>but every CD/Blu-Ray from the hololive shop needs to be purchased separatelyso why exactly do they do this?
>>107663557Since when is this a thing? I was able to order IRyS's EP with other merch
>>107659540Anti sub newfriend.
what baffles me is people actually watch kiara's stream
>>107666360Which one, her first one or Yabai? I remember needing to get Yabai alone as well, not to mention Suisei's recent blu-rays.
>>107667061It was Yabai, I ordered one of Kronii's maid keychains with it and they both came in the same package when the keychain shipped
>>107662637>trivializing her genmates accomplishmentscompletely on brand for her. anyone have a timestamp?
>>107653734Remember, you can tell your oshi you really don't give a shit about idol crap and just want her to stream so she doesn't stress out. Leave that showbiz garbo to the japanese.
It's insane how many posts ITT think cover is running a charity and have 0 idea of business. A publicly traded company is LEGALLY OBLIGATED TO MAXIMIZE SHAREHOLDER RETURNS.
>>107667376Isn't that nice, you know what i like on my hotcakes?
>>107660349Because what she cares about is attention and being an idol, something you can't do outside of hololive.
>>107665333Just guessing, maybe the packing and shipping for CDs is outsourced in some way now? Like, the company that presses also ships the CDs individually to GLOBAL E to then ship internationally as a finished package?But because vertically integrated logistics is hard and not at all Cover's core competency, doing something like drop shipping the discs to the same facility that sends out acrylic stands to GLOBAL E, so the merch streams can include all items, doesn't work for some reason.
>>107659768on geekjackBoth Kiara's and Ina's sold out really quickly there, then they got more stock allocated to them.Looks like Kiara's is sold out there again.
>>107655035>>107655141They sold out on geekjack.It looks like they do something different for cd's, they aren't the same as other preorders.https://x.com/GeekJack_Store/status/1993490557554114766
>>107654298>There's no audience in EN for thatftfy
>>107656972This is my biggest thing. They have the internal numbers, they know how many different people buy her merch and how many order multiples. How they don't have some idea of what sales would actually be like is beyond me.
>>107658972>Tariffs are fucking Kiara upCome on, I was already voting for him again, no need to convince me.
>>107655351Nerissa can sing, she just chooses not to most of the time, for some reason
>>107662297The difference between her and FWMC is FWMC spam A LOT to try and drive home the point while she openly talks/cries about it.Wierdly enough I've watched years of both of them and got tired of a lot of this shit last year. They both made me just stop buying merch.
>>107653734Management needs to learn their only job with these golden gooses is to tard wrangle their menhera moments. Stop pushing them to achieve more money for the company, it's just going to backfire and make them indie where they will no longer be tard wrangled and become VSHOJO style whores.
>>107653852One of Cover's biggest shareholders is in NYC and was interviewing fans after AFO to get their opinion on things aboit the company. Me & one of my friends both have accounting/business backgrounds and were 2 of the people they were talking to about it. From what we gathered, it seemed like they were looking to sell most or all of their holdings. If that's a common sentiment among their bigger investors then it's likely cover is trying to get all the $ they can ASAP.
>>107653734Who would want to listen to someone who can't sing on top of the music being overly produced? Most Vtuber music is awful even when they can sing but Kiara can't sing.
>>107668873Is spamming merch and sponsored streams what fans asked for?
>>107668584IRyS and Bae's EPs / albums did well, though (management even told IRyS that her latest EP sold "very well"). It's just Kiara (although I'm not sure what she is or isn't lacking), historically IRyS and Bae have been doing better than her when it came to music sales (again, which is weird because her music views on YT / Spotify is roughly equal to Bae and noticeably better than IRyS)
>>107653852>personal project>"who is pushing this number faggotry unto them"Hmm...
>Makes bad musicWHY ISN'T MY ALBUM SELLING?
>>107659768retard thats the regular site translated. geekjack is the US shipping location where you dont pay insane shipping costs. And it's sold out there
I'd kill to see the IP count for this thread Can't be more than like 10 dudes at most. By the way, can you bundle Kiara and Ina's albums on Geekjack? I was gonna buy them but the Holo store keeps getting worse with its random number generated tariffs and limited shipping on fucking CDs (they can't just consolidate orders and bundle so you don't have to spend $20+$20+20 on discs?)Meanwhile Mori's album, you can buy and have shipped for $10 bucks.
>>107660135DOOKIESEETHE
Kiara's music sounds a bit too samey for my tastes. Neither her or Ina will really ever be able to top Mori. Mori can fill the albums with the most dogwater music ever (which is most of her music) and still probably sell out. Problem is the tariffs and a recession in all but name. Hard to justify chubba shit right now.
>>107668873Intresting, especially since Yagoo and Cover have been trying to attract more Western investors and sponsors to do campaigns in the West, but so far are getting literal WHOs that more regional or localized in a singular place like LA or NYC
>>107668995Bae and Kiara shill the FUCK out of themselves, IRyS doesn't. She's just not a natural carnival barker like the other two. They beg for clicks and views constantly, she's just kinda like 'oh hey guys new song just dropped...anyway back to the game."
>>107669537>the Holo store keeps getting worse with its random number generated tariffsAren't the tariffs literally random number generated? I remember press conferences with the president holding up a big sign with percentages on it that might have been ChatGPTd.But I stay the fuck away from the news deliberately so I have no idea if the tariffs are up or down or rescinded or back on or whatever. I just know a couple times I got rug pulled on delivery for like $60 because of changes, but not all merch goes through that. The Justice FWU and the made to order AFO goods just delivered from Holoshop to my US address without additional DHL charges most recently, so they have to be doing something right.
>>107668995>Bae's EPs / albums did wellI know IRyS got praised by management but I don’t remember she’s ever talked about her album sales.
>>107655915belle is only a tragedy because she stopped creating content. I love her
>>107669625Cover's in particular are grossly incompetent. They also refused to use anybody but DHL who will charge you extra for the privilege of processing the tariffs for you. I've ordered shit from goodsmile so far this year that got tariffed a few bucks at most, sometimes none at all, while anything on the Holo shop is like $20 shipping + $20 in tariff tips. That and not letting you bundle the albums for a group event is egregious. Surely they should have thought that people supporting a duo/solo live night want both, and thus would plan some way to buy both together? They basically have no concept of bundling orders at this point. Then they go and release coupons for domestic customers to get like 50% off their already $6 flat shipping. I'll just use alternate sites or buy shit in Japan if they're gonna stick it up the ass of foreign buyers.
>>107669565Seethe. Kiara's songs are all fire. Her discography is already top 3 in all of hololive.
>>107669791the niji shop isn't any better either, I ordered a 250 dollar 1/7 scale figure and then had to eat like 50 shipping...and then 80 tariff...and another 30 to switch from DHL to a faster service that wouldn't take an extra month. But at least they let me change it, unlike Cover. But hey we're getting those $2000 tariff checks soon, so I dont mind. El Presidente has got my back and will reimburse me.
>>107669565RUMAO a Mori fan saying someone *else* has samey music? When all her shit is copypasted?
>>107669886>say most of Mori's music is shit>lmao must be a Mori fan!
>>107669869>Buying Niji goodsEhhhh... kimoi. I've paid less than $2k in tariffs so far this year, so it's not really my problem, but it's more my issue with logistics than anything.
>>107660349>has been complaining about holo more and moreNot really. The peak of complaining about Cover/Holo was sometime in 2023. She has been relatively happy these days. I think it's just getting clipped more, or something like that.
>>107669921Post album release 2023 was the worst point in Kiara's stream history. Every single stream was just her being mopey and complaining. She even admitted as much on her retrospective of 2023 stream on the new year.
>>107669791>That and not letting you bundle the albums for a group event is egregious.Sure, I agree with you on this and I think the talents do as well. There are surely good but stupid business reasons they didn't, and that's an oversight on the merch and talent management wings for sure. Under any other combination, talent pairing albums wouldn't be a big deal but it's sort of the headline for this event out of the gate.>They also refused to use anybody but DHL>who will charge you extra for the privilege of processing the tariffs for you>while anything on the Holo shop is like $20 shipping + $20 in tariff tipsI can empathize with (if not agree) not liking DHL, in the same way I try to avoid any seller who uses UPS Maybepost or Fedex Stupidpost because I have had stuff get lost in the local post-office hand-off multiple times. But the fact that the tariffs DHL charges are what the tariffs actually are, puts it outside of Cover's control. What's DHL tacking on the $20? $5 or something?
>>107670072>What's DHL tacking on the $20? $5 or something?DHL has tacked on an extra $17 bucks PER SHIPMENT for anything that's gotten tariffed. And again, in my anecdotal experience, I've gotten overseas packages without being tariffed, but Cover's stuff is egregious. I'm just frustrated, because merch is a huge part of Cover's game and they haven't been able to adapt well with the orange man meme taxes. The tariffs aren't even THAT bad in the first place, but before they put in flat shipping on it, it was even worse; I saw people buying those anni sets and such for $100 + $60 shipping +$15 taxes +$100 tariffs + DHL fees. Absolutely absurd. It'd be awesome if they did like Mori's show and have sales of the Kiara/Ina albums in person in LA. I actually bought Mori's album in person and avoided the shipping earlier this year.
>>107654166If you are implying they graduate that is correct however in Kiara's case if she’s this unpopular with hololive, indie is looking grim. At least music wise
>>107668955No, but they weren't happy about the post-tariffs revenue hit & they mentioned a lot of people had been purchasing less items. More merch means the whales are getting milker harder. I would also guess the move to flat fee shipping ties into that to encourage people more likely to place more orders. >>107669601Sponsorship/collab wise Cover is in a shitty situation for EN in general. Only so many places that operate beyond regionally are going to be willing to do any sort of anime related collabs and most of them wouldn't do anything that doesn't hit Demon Slayer/Naruto/JJK/Dragon Ball levels of popularity & a lot of the more widespread Japanese restaurants like Benihana aren't trying to target the otaku/weeb audience
>>107670189>The tariffs aren't even THAT bad in the first placeDepends on country of origin. Everything I export to American clients now has a fucking 35% tariff on top of the existing taxes and duties..
>>107669903nice try to deflect
>>107669916true, I wish things were faster. but I'm not complaining, its going to end up a net positive for me
>>107653734Makes sense, her voice is fucking atrociousProps to her for getting this far with that handicap
POSTS LIKE THISONE ARE PUBLIC!
What music do you guys listen to anyways?
>>107670630I don't, needing cute sounds is for fags
>>107670428You'll get them next time, champ.
>>107670630I liked Orpheus
>>107670809>>107670754>>107670653>>107653734
>>107670844We get it, you suck cocks.
>>107655915It would be a success if she did proper fansly content
>>107670876No. I do not.
>>107670653>You don't>Cute soundsAre you autistic? I'm asking music most music isn't cute and everyone listens to music dipshit.
>>107671034Keep denying about suckin' them cocks, gay boy.
>>107653734would you prefer they lied to her and told her it was the best selling album in existence and so she doesnt need to improve? do you know what the idol journey even is?
