Reasons why i only watch hololive. >indieI don't have time to search for diamond in the ocean of liquid shit. >ex-vshojoToo much creative freedom for me. >phasePhasefags made me hate phase chuuba. >other small corpoI literally have to google about them.
this but with holoJPholoEN is not very different than nijiEN
Basically... my time are precious.
basically>I picked my tribe 2, maybe 3 years ago and I can't change now because I've based my entire personality around that decision.
>>107660364picrel>former v4m>fomer twitch indie
>>107660851I kinda wonder how hardcore holo-onlyfags cognitively dissociate from that fact, especially in 2025 when like 2/3rds of HoloEN is made up of former indies/small corpos
>>107660799That's a pretty retarded way to complain that someone has a specific preference about something.
>>107660851>>107661206New Holo members have to go through a 6 months training and teambuilding nowadays (has been the case for a few years at least), not to mention all the rules to prevent some of the so-called "freedom" I don't like from other groups / indies.
>>107660364You don't watch vtubers at all.
>>107661477mori "cuckposting" caliope says otherwise.
>>107661206>cognitively dissociate from that factBecause holofans are the true vtuberfans. Vtuber is voice and png. If the voice have different png than before, it's a different vtuber. Man, i can't believe that i have to tell you this simple fact. This board is beyond help.
>>107661598Yes, i don't watch vtuber. I watch hololive.
>>107660364Hololive is basically like owning an iPhone. Yeah, there may be like one or two other phones that are better, but you have to look through a million shitty chink copies to find them.Whereas an iPhone is a simple, high-quality phone that just works. It's a bit of a walled garden, it can't do everything, but there are no surprises, no sudden lore drops to worry about.
>>107661206>FWMC joined and their streaming content hit the trash bin>Gigi joined and she had exponentially more time to stream50/50 so far for me, although I was REALLY looking forward to visual novels from an EN member so maybe it's more like 70/30 for bad vs good.
>>107661713>but there are no surprises*graduates*
>>107661811>*graduates*Literally no one beside maybe like Fauna and Chole were surprises to me tbhdesuBasically everyone of them was predictable to some degree
But now you're stuck watching Hololive instead of something entertaining
>>107662001>something entertainingSuch as? Go on, tell the class the stuff you consider entertaining.
>>107661206I don’t care who they were before or after, don’t care what they look like irl either I watch mainly hololive because I like when they play games togetherIt feels like when rooster teeth / achievement Hunter was still good
>>107660364Good for you bro, thank you for telling us about your life decisions I'm sure many people here care a lot about them
>>107661206It's the word "former". If you look at what OP actually says, it boils down to the following factors>I don't have time to search for diamond in the ocean of liquid shit. >I literally have to google about them.Convenience. OP doesn't want to spend time finding the perfect Indy 2view for him, he just wants to watch cute girls, and Holo gives him that without him having to put in any work. I would also argue that Cover is very good at talent scouting.>Too much creative freedom for meDon't make me tap the sign. The company has certain limitations which OP likes, some hard restrictions (no IRL stuff, no fleshtubing), some soft guidances (limit male collabs, avoid certain subjects).>Phasefags made me hate phase chuubaThe greater community and the interplay between them and the talents. Cover is almost authoritarian in how they restrict what fans can say and do, and this keeps the wall of the garden intact so the roses aren't covered in piss.At no point does OP say that indies or small corpos are bad and evil and wrong. At no point does OP suggest that they should not exist or are not welcome to join Hololive. Your entire way of thinking about this is simply incorrect.
>>107661939Kind of a tangent but it still blows my mind how people are so surprised and so full of conspiracy theories for Kanata when we've known for a while now that she is literally going deaf.
>>107660364If you're looking for suggestions OP then you should watch Mint. As a fellow Holo only, she's my exception.
>>107662731The top-down focus on product and rules does have a downside, it creates corporate slop. You see this in other creative industries like music, film, games. The emphasis is on production and polish but it comes at the expense of feel. So there's pros and cons.
>>107660364i don't watch phase because they all sound sea
>>107662876Of course, everything has pros and cons, but the point remains that it's rarely to do with corporate tribalism. I know this is /vt/ so it can sometimes seem otherwise, but most people are more concerned with liking a thing that they like rather than hating the things that they don't.
>>107662783>we've known for a while now that she is literally going deaf.It makes more sense you realize this hobby is filled with far more dramatoursit/fags who just wanna watch shit burn than it was in 2019, so a lot of them likely just genuinely didn't know about her condition till now
>>107662648You care enough to reply.
>>107660364Hololive is like the starter town of an MMO. It’s the place newcomers learn the ropes before departing to find their own oshi. With some occasionally coming back to hang around if there’s nothing else going on.
