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Popular Dark Souls/Elden Ring lore and out-of-bounds specialist is now a vtuber. Discuss.

Current Stream:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6vDWD4qSKY

Channel:
https://www.youtube.com/@ZullietheWitch
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Hold on there chief.
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It's a man
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>>107672271
hey wait a minute...
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>>107672339
considering the type of content he makes, I would've been more shocked if he wasn't a man
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A LOT of women have deep voices.
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>>107672339
>>107672415
To be clear, it's a man with a voice changer. Voice changers make the audio sound like ass so I couldn't sick around to find out but are they actually trans or just doing it for the extra donation money?
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>>107672666
>content creator that can program
unmistakenly a tranny
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>>107672666
Definitely trans. He has a bluesky profile.
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Hello
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>>107672415
Not OP but yeah. That type of content, plus no voice for so long, it was all but certain. Now this confirms it.

3k viewers and a supportive chat, good to see, but this mtf isn't for me.
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>>107672666
It's a dude with a bog standard troon voice. How can anyone think this sounds like a woman
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>>107672739
TRVKE
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The bat's name is Lydia
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>>107672304
>>107672412
>>107672739
I unironically don't get it. How can a bat be at video games?
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>>107672666
>>107672803
She's recovering from throat surgery
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>>107672945
fem voice surgery doesn't work
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>>107672945
Is that the lie he's going with?
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>>107672945
have some self respect man
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Never doubted it was a man. Tbh I don't care if it's a tranny, but the voice reveal and vtuber debut was unnecessary.
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>>107672968
>>107673007
>>107673034
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>one /v/ thread got 404'd and the other got autosaged
lol
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>>107673066
>mod running defense
very convincing
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from my tranny friend, they had less vocal range after fem voice surgery, Lydia saying she needed that repaired isnt really possible, she likely wont improve much
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>>107673066
first time?
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>>107673066
>She
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wife
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>>107672271
I feel bad if it really is a woman, since the accusations will be inescapable, but also it really is just hard to believe given the context. The voice is plausible, but "plausible" is never gonna be enough to dispel the suspicion. I guess as long as the content doesn't change, then whatever.
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lel
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>>107673245
>I guess as long as the content doesn't change
but it will change
he said that future videos will feature his tranny voice
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She sounds like my girlfriend who is a woman
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>>107673311
He said he will continue making the old style videos. The model and voice are for streaming mostly.
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>>107673311
>he said that future videos will feature his tranny voice
oh no, any replacement?
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>>107673362
same, my 3 girlfriends that all smoke weed all sound like her
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>>107673362
>woman
sorry to break it to you...
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>>107673144
>bsky.social
Yeeeep. Tranny.
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>>107673311
I don't think it sounds bad, but my mind is going to "chick with a strep throat" rather than troon despite the likelihood otherwise.
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>>107672271
Oh, I haven't seen this yet.
Time to cancel my sub.
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least obvious AI voice modulator award
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>>107673066
>>107673303
Who do I believe?
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>>107672271
Unfollowed, Unsusbscribed, Uneverything.
The magic is ruined.
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>>107672945
Ya from me absolutely hammering her mouth with my dick
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>>107673553
This one mod is pretty adamant
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>>107673600
>zullie's not a troon but I am
Now THAT is a bold defense strategy
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desu I'd take trans over becoming parasocial over another girl who probably has a bf
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>>107673600
Hmm mods seem kinda transphobic man
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>>107673600
Potential person of interest?
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>>107673625
this board is so funny
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>>107673362
Anon...I'm sorry but we have news for you
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>she
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If you go to minute 1 of the presentation video you can clearly hear the voice-changer doing weird shit, in case anyone really has doubts
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>>107673600
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>>107672271
why the fuck do so many of them do the nose bandage thing? thats an instant 0/10 complete deal breaker for me, it looks fucking retarded
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>>107673600
>mememe
Out of nowhere
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>>107672271
1000% tranny. not even a good voice changer
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>>107673600
holy...an actual whiteknightCHAD? the rarest of combos...I almost kneel.
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>>107672339
Peanut vindication
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fuck it, im betting shes a woman and LET IT RIDE
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>>107673600
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>>107673764
they're SO /here/
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>>107673401
>women would never kowtow after what's popular (i.e. social media leftism)!!
Look at this dullard and laugh.
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>>107673732
real life measures to try and make your face look less manly by hiding thee very obvious male aspects
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>>107673600
Reminds me of the retards who insisted shartemis of the brown was a woman. It's not even ambiguous like Clio or Yuzu, it's 1000% a male.
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>>107673808
but you even see it on loli chuubas who are clearly real women. I just dont understand the aesthetic, who the hell is it meant to appeal to?
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>>107673706
I'm not picking up on it, but I don't have much of ear for these things
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>/vt/ - Video Games/Transsexual
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>>107672271
Fucking why
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>>107673814
this dude even makes Artemis seem like a girl
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Ah nevermind, his mods are wrong
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>>107673814
I don't know who Yuzu is but it's not ambiguous about Clio at all. He is clearly a dude.
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>>107673814
>ambiguous like Clio or Yuzu
I actually forgot retards like you existed.
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>>107673600
how much do you want to bet that mod is his alt account?
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>>107673863
what would that have to do with pvp? do female avatars no get attacked as much or something?
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>>107673839
its a trope you retard
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>>107673864
>t. falseflagger
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>>107673863
The female character pick to trans pipeline is very fucking real.
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>>107673800
Use case for posting ebussy in /vt/?
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>>107673908
a trope for what? what the fuck is it supposed to appeal to? I've watched more anime than should be humanly possible, and have rarely seen it, but I see it on vtubers constantly
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>>107673902
its a lore thing. Rp.
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Whats it like only being able to think about cock even when a woman is in front of you? I am unable to acquire this ability you all have and im even attracted to trans women and femboys if they look enough like chicks
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>>107672271
Decent OC imo, original but mostly coherent.

That said, is it just me, or does the model look a little bit... you know... too?
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>>107673600
Still going
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>>107673864
anon please, we're trying to ridicule and shame *actual* trannies here. Leave your Clio and phase hate elsewhere
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>>107673936
his face adheres to Gnome Human Interface Guidelines
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>>107673961
Uh oh janny melty
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>>107673961
The sayings of a baited man
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>>107673961
KEK I hope the creature is so humiliated that it stops streaming after reading all the tranny comments
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>>107673947
>what's it like
it's like this
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>bsky
>probable trannoid
>avatar has weird piercings and obnoxious 'alt' design

Suddenly all the money begging and attention-whoring makes sense. The witch persona even more so. I'm glad I cancelled my subscription to his channel years ago (out of disinterest).
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>>107674005
>traniversary
this can't be a real term, right?
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>women
>doing dark souls content

it's always men retards
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>>107674005
Do they know people are just being nice to them or are they really this delusional?
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>>107674053
not always but more like 99% of the time
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>>107674053
Bat does Zelda randomizers, which is way worse.
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>>107674053
the only thing more certain is
>women
>doing paradox games
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>>107673600
I don't think it particularity matters but I conclude from the evidence she was born a girl. Just sounds like she has a deep voice.
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>>107673938
youve never seen the sporty tomboy girl with tape on her nose bridge? really nigga?

anyways the tape thing also became a tumblr thing, as they watched anime too
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>>107674053
I've watched some hololive girls "try" to "play" dark souls and elden ring, and yeah, 99% of them are garbage and quit after one or two streams. All the dedicated streamers are dudes, trannies or babinikus
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>>107673066
A tranny who DOESN'T want attention for being a tranny? Well, it's possible.
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>>107674126
like I said, rarely, not never. But it has a disproportionally high representation in vtubers, and they're usually not even the athletic tomboy type. Case in point: this tranny bat thing
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>>107674053
>>107674119
>>107674133
are you guys familiar with Koseki Bijou?
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>>107674162
vtubers need to have character designs with accessories and customizations, and they are often cut down to just a front facing bust shot
there are only so many decorations you can stick on that section of a character, so of course they will be picking stuff like "nose bandage" when they can't just be
>generic cute anime gril #107,674,162
>my features are an anime girl shaped face and long blonde hair and blue eyes
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>>107674196
tranny shit
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I think she's probably a tranny but the voice isn't annoying and the vibe is cozy so I guess I'll watch.
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>>107674196
How many "girls" do you actually think are in Hololive?
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>>107674162
as i said, aesthetic tumblr shit. Youre autistic as fuck man its just a rectangle
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>>107674053
Not true, it's a normie series. Several foids got out there via souls like parkenharbor, luality, missmikkaa and wraff. It's just heavily associated with troons like zullie and onlyafro so real foids are sidelined.
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>>107674053
Not specific to dark souls; women just don't have any desire to dig into obscure details of a video game. Maybe someone exists, but it must be 0/50 for creators that I've seen.

Even just genuinely enjoying challenging games is still rare among women, but at least there are a few (Botan, Ko'one, Parkenharbour, etc).
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>>107673932
Also a former /vg/ poster.
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>>107673863
Does this anon have it right though? I remember a video explaining the orign of the Zullie persona and it did say it was for a in-game cosplay thing where a lot of people were doing Alva outfits so the mysterious person behind the channel decided to do Zullie....but this doesn't mean that it's necessarily a guy (though it could be).
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>>107673732
>>107673938
it adds some detail to an area that's usually empty, maybe? same with the stupid choker trend.
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>>107674275
>former /vg/ poster.
explains everything LMFAO
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>>107674228
27.
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>/vt/ complains when girls dont play any good games
>girl vtuber comes out who does play good games
>"s-shes gotta be le tranny! t-this cant be a 'normal' girl!"
lol
the only thing thats bad about this stream so far is the mod chimping out
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>>107674085
yea this one is masculine
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>>107674138
ACTUAL trannies (ie those actually suffering from gender dysphoria) tend not to want to draw attention to the fact they're trans. Brianna Wu is a good example - for over a decade he claimed to be an actual woman. It's just that the majority of trannies currently don't actually have gender dysphoria - it's just a fetish and/or attention seeking for them which is why so many draw attention to it.
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>>107673961
>>107673600
This is definitely the guy who convinced troonie that his voice change is perfect and no one will know he's trans. He fucking groomed him to stream lmao
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>inb4 41% after this stream
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>>107674196
I did say 99%, she is an outlier
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>>107672271
>corset tie over throat
Think the artist knew?
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>>107674248
nah not autistic, just not a fan of that look. bandages in general are gross, I hate the knee bandaids too
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>>107674467
Throat goat?
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>>107674467
They're their own artist.
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>>107674467
It's self-made
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>>107674491
THEY KNEW
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>>107674467
I don't know, what's the symbology
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>>107674489
>tightening zullies throat laces during a blowie
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>>107674587
ok that's hot ngl
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>>107672271
My new oshi
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>>107674555
Got throat surgery in March. Supposedly had throat problems for a long time. It's all a very convenient explanation, but who knows.
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zullie has already grifted their audience for money before so this isn't surprising
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>>107674555
throat surgery to sound female. he even begged for emoney for unspecified surgery.
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>>107674394
it's because they have a narrow view of gender roles. (and sometimes, autism.)
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>>107674587
extra tight...
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i think its a woman
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>>107674778
I might agree, but that depends on what you mean by "woman"
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niggas will argue whether any woman on the internet is trans or not nowadays but ill believe zullie is cisgender purely because any lore nerds outside of vaati cocklickers are almost always women
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>>107672945
Vtuber fans are the dumbest kind of incel there is lmao
Let me guess your oshi is also a virgin-lesbian too right?
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*pulls out a stopwatch* Let see how long xhe needs for a piss break *smirks*
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>>107674825
> lore nerds are women
Challenge: name one (1)
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>>107674833
No, she's a bisexual whose virginity has long been taken by 9 inch dragon dildos
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how long until she streams with top soulsborne streamers?
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>>107674867
His groomers are literally in this thread, don't give them ideas.
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>>107674907
oh yeah that reminds me, let me open up firesky
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>>107674873
ive seen dozens on xitter
look up anything souls lore related in search and youll find some
if its not some 30 year old guy who only plays elden ring, its probably some late 20s woman who is probably a lesbian
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>>107674957
Fair enough. I'm not on twitter, but I'll believe you. Being a creator is a bit different though imo.
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>>107674873
nta, here's two
https://www.youtube.com/@TiptoeTheTank/videos
https://www.youtube.com/@kitetales/videos
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>>107674929 (Me)
no one fucking cares
this thread is literally the most active forum on the internet for discussing this reveal
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>>107675010
that's only because the few /v/ threads got kaput for being about an e-celeb
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>>107675036
I'd imagine /v/ was screeching even harder about troons than /here/
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>>107675000
Huh. And I'm aware of a couple for LotR. Guess there really are women on the Internet now...
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>>107675048
here's the three threads I found in the /v/ archive
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/728470419/
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/728471356/
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/728473479/
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>>107675111
I'm not going in there
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>>107675111
Not going on any /v/ thread even with a condom(archive).
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She sounds hot
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>>107675126
>>107675151
DO IT FAGIT
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>>107674873
you know, that kind of checks out. All the turbofag lore nerds I've met for LotR and Dragon Age and shit have always been bookgirl nerds (who I fall in love with but they're fucking taken already EVERY GODDAMN TIME I'M NOT MAD I SWEAR FUCKING BULLSHIT WHYYY) Ahem but yeah, they exist
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>288 Recluse runs
>0 runs with other characters
wew
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>>107675111
>literally every single reply is just terrified at the idea of zullie being transgender
>not even talking about nightreign or lore
yeah thats /v/ alright
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>>107675111
these arent loading for me
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>>107675225
try a different browser or use a webproxy like croxyproxy
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>>107675222
/v/ refugee here.
I've never played a FromSoft game in my life.
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>>107674873
>lore nerds are women
Not souls one, but I know one small female vtuber who does only Warhammer 40K. Aurelia something.
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>troonlie the wizard
he should've never spoken, at least before one could've pretended he actually was a girl
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>>107675210
that's so weird, the game already feels content lite with only playing one character
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>>107675111
They're indistinguishable from this thread
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>>107675210
god that model is ugly. and I wonder if the gamer shrimp hunch was intentional?
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>>107675210
>playing the most casual character exclusively
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>>107675288
vtubers and their sexuality are actually on topic here
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>>107675210
Odd, never seen any female NR streamer do this. She sure is special!
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>>107675288
what if.... /vt/.... and /v/.......... were one and the same after all....
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>>107675344
lel
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>>107675344
I don't think I've seen any streamer do this period.
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>>107674825
Of course this is where the thread got moved, anyway yeah it's a voice changer:
https://d.uguu.se/QQsEhqMd.mp4
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>>107675390
You'd think with the march of technology they'd manage to eventually make a better voice changer
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>>107675210
I don't play Nighreign. What's the issue here?
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>>107675390
That's one her teammates idiot
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>>107675390
Oh come on dude, that was literally as the other two guys were joining for Nightreign. The mouth doesn't even move.
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>>107675390
AND NEWWWWWWWWWW KWABOTY....
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>>107675425
It's just funny to do all those runs and never have even touched another character.
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>ANOTHER B(R)AT
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>>107675425
That's like ignoring 9/10s of the game.
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>>107675390
>said audibly before this clip she was making sure her friends were ready to play
>conveniently left out
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>>107675425
Never trying or even doing the quests for other characters is insane. No logic for it except to obsessively push an image.
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>>107675425
half of the fun of nightreign is switching characters and experimenting with other weapons and build types
recluse is basically hard locked to just casting
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>>107675432
>>107675437
>>107675552
There wasn't a discord joining call SFX played at this part of the stream nor at the start but you can hear Zullie muting himself due to that other voice, was there any part of the stream where it sounded like someone else joined to confirm its just someone else?
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>>107673764
>there's nothing wrong with being trans
>also it's rude to ask if someone is trans
These trannies really can't keep their stories straight LMAO
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>>107672271
>goat youtuber releasing a vtuber model and stream with it
>/vt/ seething about it because it sounds male and debating about if she is trans or not
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>>107675784
>sounds male
is male
>she
he
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still would, batposters have ruined me
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>>107675784
see fun hacking videos, see cute bat, see good game, me watch. simple as.
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>>107675687
Nothing straight about trannies so it checks out.
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>>107675784
>goat
clearly a bat but ok tranny
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why are autistic women with hideous voices so drawn to bats?
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>>107675952
>women
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>just autistically listing facts mid fight
i love her
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will stroke my duck to her later
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>>107674121
Same, unless there’s concrete and conclusive evidence that she’s a troon ends up appearing later on, I’ll assume that everyone who claims she is is a /pol/tard or spent so much time on /v/ that they see trannies everywhere and mock them accordingly.
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>>107674121
>>107676172
i think she's sounds like a fat nerdy girl, which is what i would espect from someone like Zullie the Witch.
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>>107676172
>recognizing patterns means you're a /pol/tard
hola normalfag
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>>107676251
>muh pattern recognition
You wouldn’t recognize your way out of a paper bag, you spastic nigger.
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>>107676347
someone's being defensive
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>>107673066
No one can say for sure, but I'm airing on the side of not trans for now.
If she was, I really don't see why she wouldn't admit it. Yea it might cost her fans in the short term but the reality is the attention and immunity from criticism troons get on the net goes a pretty long way. Personally I think shes probably pretty mentally ill and the accusations make her really uncomfortable, and clarifying by saying something like "I'm not trans" or "im a real girl" will get her heat she doesnt want to handle at this time.
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Her OC is kinda tranny coded yeah but her actual voice does sound like that of a female. More than likely she's probably just fat.
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>>107676603
It also probably doesn’t help that she had a throat surgery recently, I think it’s safe to assume she’s under a lot of stress and doesn’t want to handle drama at the moment.
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Stream over. Endearingly awkward at the end.
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>>107676050
>>107676067
>her
The same zentranny raiders are here as well it seems
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>>107674877
cecilia immergreen?
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>she
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>>107672304
Hold on for this piece of garbage?
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Oh fuck it's true I forgot she got a throat surgery and all that shit about being in debt because of it.
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>>107677276
Banks finance elective surgeries? The interest rate must be horrifying.
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>>107677111
>posting a tranny-kneeler like kirsche
LMAO
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>>107677592
15k in the hole. Had the chance to ask for money online and iirc she seemed pretty apologetic about it, so it didn't rub me the wrong way.
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sex bat?
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>>107677767
sex bat.
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>>107674873
Most female lore nerds gravitate towards franchises like Harry Potter. Soulsborne, not as much.
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>>107672271
Sounds fat and weird.
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>>107678598
UNNNNFFFFGGHHHH
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>>107674092
Women fucking love Zelda, though. It almost feels like I come across more die-hard female Zelda fans than male, and randomizers aren't that difficult to install.
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>>107678721
patching a ROM with a romhack also isn't hard, yet we both know the vast majority of people doing it are men.
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>>107673902
early souls had differences between the male and female options for some reason. i forget if it was something with the hitbox or if it was like some items were available for one and not the other, i don't remember
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>>107678963
Demon's Souls has sex locked armor. Games after it didn't but maybe, like you said, the hitboxes were different.
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>>107678963
demon souls specifically had gender specific armor. some sets would look different or be outright unequippable by certain genders.
every entry after and including dark souls has never had anything that egregious to my knowledge (except anris gender swapping based on yours in ds3)
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>>107678721
Women love Zelda, but you will be extremely hard pressed to find one that's into speed running or romhacks for the games. I remember listening to an OoT speedrunnner talking about how he was dating a girl who was really into Zelda and then she saw one of his streams and got confused why he was playing it "wrong" (e.g. back hopping to get places faster instead of looking where you're going).
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>>107673902
Here's the video which explains the use of the Zullie character:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nc0JVlwYNiI
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>>107672304
>>107672412
Waiting on her commentary about this

He must be a big fan of hers
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It’s so ridiculous watching people buy into Zullie not being a tranny as a tranny myself. Normies are so clueless
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>>107675584
faithless whore
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>>107679885
Well of course a troon couldn't help but project
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>>107679885
>trying to drag a normal woman down to your level
kwab
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>>107680413
isn't calling the tranny a bitch a compliment?
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>>107677747
a legal document is not the right place nor time to die on that hill and draw attention away from the Tortious Interference
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>>107679928
>>107680413
Are you niggas for real? What part of Zullie isn’t stereotypically tranny? Autistic obsession with Dark Souls data mining, speedruns Zelda, doesn’t talk, doesn’t show her face, voice sounds deep and weird and fake, mysterious “vocal surgery”, witch theme, vtuber with a dark theme. Everything about this person is troon alarm red
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>>107679885
Simps can produce catastrophic amounts of copium. And he's been at this larp for years so it'll be a while before they accept the truth and move on.
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>>107673066
Very simple, if Zullie was an actual woman, "she" would've capitalized on it a while ago. Women are all attention whores. Now Zullie posts a video revealing the most obvious tranny voice ever and people are still coping lmao
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>>107681069
>I gooned and spent a bunch of money on him, so I can WILL him into being a real woman
Kek, poor bastards
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I've no opinion on whether this person is a tranny or not, and if they are just a souls-slop streamer I'm not going to be watching them - but a significant number of anons are convinced that Clio from Phase is a troon simply because she likes GSGs and has a raspy voice, so I don't put much faith in anons being able to suss them out desu.
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>>107674873
https://www.youtube.com/@AbyssWhispers/videos
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>>107674260
There are plenty of autistic cis women who love games like this and diving deep into their lore. Most of them just have no desire to be "creators", and stay in their rooms playing games instead, so you don't find out about them.
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>>107681079
>the most obvious tranny voice ever
See, I think Zullie's a dude but talking in superlatives like that doesn't help anything. No, it's not the most obvious tranny voice because the most obvious tranny voice just straight up sounds like a guy with zero ambiguity. You can go spend a few minutes looking at random GDQ runs and find out what obvious actually sounds like. Meanwhile Zullie sounds like a 14 year old boy, teetering on androgynous. The difference is clear.
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>>107681922
"Tranny voice" specifically means a forced voice trying to sound like a woman. A guy just using his normal voice is not what he means.
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>>107681529
people are so far into tranny fear that im worried if they ever do have sex, theyll claim the prostitute just has really, really good vaginoplasty.
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>>107682025
Even under those terms, I've heard worse. A lot of tranny dudes just try to just raise their voice and talk more softly, almost more like they're doing an impression of a woman. That's distinct from the weird raspy teenager thing going on with with Zullie.
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>every "woman" that likes fromsoft games is a tranny!!!1
This is the kind of shit that makes me want to start streaming, even though I hate the idea of putting my face on the internet. I am an actual, biological female, and not only do I adore these games, I've also beaten most of them at SL1. I don't want the attention nor to spend money on a camera and mic, but maybe it's worth it if it would convince some of you retards that people like me exist, aside from just parkenharbor and that DDR pad girl. If those two young and very attractive women love Souls games enough to spend endless hours studying or getting good at them, why is it unbelievable that there are dozens if not hundreds of normal to ugly women out there who do too?
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>>107682570
Do not start streaming solely to prove something to a bunch of retards, it'll fuck you up mentally if that's your only motivation.
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>>107682570
>I am an actual, biological female
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>>107682570
Most people here don't know about them, they base their opinion on zullie and onlyafro/onlywaifu. Consider vtubing if you're insecure about your looks.
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>>107682610
You're right, but it fills me with burning rage every time I see this sentiment that people with XX chromosomes can't be good at video games. And I see it a lot.
>>107682693
It's not just my looks, I can look half decent with makeup. It's the equipment cost, the effort required to set everything up, the fact that I'd have to advertise myself and keep up an entertaining persona... none of it sounds appealing to me at all.
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>>107682570
Okay, I await your exciting debut, realgirlgamer.
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>>107682795
I don't think a basic setup costs that much, you could always return it if you get zero traction in a couple months.
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>>107672271
>sewn bootstraps through the neck
This is freaking me out so hard like it's gore.
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>>107682570
two reasons
>tranny fever, anyone can and will assume someone is transgender either to negatively, or sometimes even positively, push an agenda
>complete inability to accept women have entered male dominant spaces, that women must be these strange unicorn creatures that never interact with "male" media. except for the women/vtubers they have a crush on. theyre always the exception.
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>>107679620
my thanks for the spoonfeed, anon
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>>107682219
Yeah, I'm literally a TERF and I still think the extent of this paranoia is ridiculous. If someone looks and/or sounds female, it's more than likely that they are female. Trannies that can actually "pass" in any sense are exceptionally rare.
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I think it's scummy they made it sound like they needed surgery for a life threatening issue to their fans, only for it to be a trans affirming surgery.
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>>107680902
the only people that can't see it are shitposters or troons themselves
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>>107683603
He stated it was for throat surgery though
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>>107682570
tits or gtfo, see first two sentences of this post
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>>107683747
Vocal feminization surgery
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A whole bunch of that ds crowd trooned out. Luke yui the creator of the seemless coop mod, amir trooned out and became amira, heck even the fags who like onlywaifu are in denial when you point out it is a man using ai trained voices. Soulsfags confirmed big homos
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>unvoiced videos
>chuuba debut
>alt/goth design
>tranny
Can't be more fucking typical if you tried, I guess this type of mental illness is well documented in this hobby. Shame.
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>>107684317
>A whole bunch of that ds crowd trooned out
>A whole bunch
>lists 2 people and one borderline babiniku amongst dozens of other large souls content creators
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>>107676603
This is where I'm at
To be clear, before she (or he, whatever doesn't trigger you faggots) talked, I was actually very much on the "Zullie is probably trans" team, just based off the autistic obsessions and hacking experience.

But this? It doesn't sound like a voice changer to me, it sounds like someone genuinely speaking. It also sounds androgynous, some points I listen and I lean that it's a boy, other points I listen and I lean that it's a girl. If they are a guy trying to do a girl voice, they aren't trying very hard. If they're a girl with throat surgery...maybe?
I don't know, I'm going to withold judgment until we hear more, like what she sounds like with the surgery healed. I agree with you, if they were trans I just don't see why they'd admit it right out. And it is rare, but not unheard of for girls to have the same level of autistic interest in fromsoft games that Zullie does.
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>>107685606
Same reason he hid his gender for years: viewership. Same reason he got throat surgery, because his normal voice is too obvious even for normalfags. If he was a girl he would've admitted it outright, since it was a major topic from the start.
Girls get autistic about souls, but show me one girl taking it to the level of deconstructing assets with 3rd party software.
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>>107685863
I can't, but I personally know a girl who has gotten that level of autistic with other games (specifically huge into the Age of empires and Civ modding scenes of all things, which I would think would tilt even more male dominated) so I am genuinely more open to the idea that there can be weirdly autistic obsessive women because of her.
Her voice (as in the voice of this girl I know) is also very hoarse, though sadly in her case it's because she's so incredibly antisocial that she goes months (she confessed to me that at one point she might have gone an entire year) without speaking a word to anyone and her vocal cords just get weak from lack of use. DESU part of me wondered if that was what was going on with Zullie in their video.
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any porn yet?
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>>107682570
>>107683369
leftists/liberals call it "purity culture".
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>>107686058
>girl autistic enough to be into grand strategy is also into modding, and keeps to herself entirely
Checks out
>girl autistic enough for modding does it for normalfag series, and publicizes it on youtube for millions of viewers, but never talks or reveals her gender
No chance
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>>107682570
it's the result of a bunch of zoomers spitefully LARPing the faded culture of the elders who founded this board during a time when women were much more segregated from the "nerdier" male hobbies, even though nowadays those hobbies have become so popularized that you actually have live, extremely attractive women trying to make themselves even more attractive by getting good at those hobbies. At least with their boomer and millenial founders the skepticism and resentment made some sort of sense, nowadays it's just pure incel rage
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>>107686428
I dunno, anon. I mean I take your point. But I have been trying to get this girl to be a little more social, and I think maybe some people underestimate how vtubing sort of makes that easier. There's more distance between you and the people you're interacting with--not just because it's digital, and you use an avatar, but because you interact with people through chat alone. I think a lot of vtubers sort of use the vtubing experience as a social crutch, ironically. Plus DS might be a normalfag series now, but it was less so when Zullie first got involved. So, I dunno. I want to hear her (or his) voice recovered from surgery. Because whatever else, they do seem to be rather hoarse right now.
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>>107686433
>pure incel rage
please be be a troll
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>>107686949
Zullie got involved in 2011 under the name HellkiteDrake, before he quit, rebranded as a foid and hid his voice to much greater success. I don't know of any confirmed female souls personalities from that era, let alone ones who are simultaneously on youtube and too shy to talk.
Yes streaming and videos are an outlet for girlfailures (real ones, not larpers), and they involve talking. This nigga didn't say a peep until throat surgery and years of vocal training.
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>>107687183
People really still peddling the Zullie is HellkiteDrake thing?
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>>107682570
just post your tits with 'hi anons' written on them in marker, and we will all kneel, worship you and subscribe to your new channel. Probably member as well. It's really easy.
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>>107686433
Agreed except for the
>trying to make themselves even more attractive by getting good at those hobbies
Part. That was certainly never one of my motivations, and honestly, I don't even believe that the handful of actual "attention whore" types got into the hobby for male attention, they just capitalized on the audience of a community they were already part of. I know one of these people personally, and she was genuinely a geeky, autistic tournament grinder before she grew up, got hot, and decided to spam her OnlyFans link on her Twitter followed by thousands of male gamers.

Don't get me wrong, I think she and others like her are annoying as fuck and a stain on their communities. I just want to push back on the idea that attractive women can't like a nerdy hobby genuinely, or engage in their hobbies for male attention. To put it another way-- women get excessive attention from men no matter what we do. An attractive woman does not need to put hundreds of hours into speedrunning Sekiro to get male attention. If she's doing that shit, it's because she enjoys it.
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>>107687340
*or that they engage
Typo in last paragraph
>>107687304
You people are funny
Even if I wanted to make a career out of streaming, I still wouldn't stoop to getting followers by posting my tits on 4chan. Pathetic behavior
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>>107687340
femanon, it's nothing against you personally. It's just an objective fact that the *vast* majority of women have neither the inclination or the ability to play anything more substantial than candy crush. They just don't. Find 100 random women off the street, how many of them will have ever even picked up a controller? 5? Compared to 100 men, where its probably more like 80. Obviously there are some women that are good at games, but it's a miniscule number.
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>>107686428
>normalfag series
Pretty sure Dark Souls still sits firmly in the autistic half of the normie-autistic media spectrum
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>>107687415
just saying, you'd turn haters into lifelong fans pretty easy. Doesnt even have to be nudity, just a cleavage flash. Women really underestimate the power they have, and refuse to use it.
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>>107687426
I don't disagree with you, but I do think the numbers aren't quite as exaggerated as you think, at least among people younger than 40. I joined a community choir recently and I swear every millennial or gen Z woman there is a console or PC gamer. Musicians are a little nerdier than average, sure, but this is still a pretty normie space.
I'll give you the part about being GOOD at games, though. I do seem to be one of very few women I've ever met that cares about being good at gaming. It's just a fun pastime for most people.
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>>107687469
Attractive women have that power, but I am not attractive. Even if I was, though, I would want to gain followers through something I actually worked at, not something I was born with. Who do you have more respect for, the woman who gets people to watch her stream by exposing her tits, or the one who gained a following because she was skilled or funny?
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>>107674873
Miss Chalice apparently posted nudes in the past. I haven't seen them but if they're explicit that'd be pretty conclusive evidence.
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>even /v/ thread is just people arguing about her pronouns
KEK
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>>107687932
what do you mean "even". Arguing about whether someone is a tranny is /v/'s single favorite thing, miles above video games.
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>>107675811
Wrong
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>>107687932
/v/ is the most likely place to argue about her pronouns and whether or not they're a tranny, over the actual substance of their content
For what it's worth I think the vtuber model is cute though I wonder how much they're gonna commit to the bit since they basically got a png model
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>>107688099
I think she's probably dipping her toes with something low commitment like a homemade PNG model, and if this is fun enough she might upgrade to an actual vtuber model.
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Yeah she has the unmistakeable vfs voice. And she admits to having throat surgery and her video says " I can talk now"

obviously she refused to talk until the tranny surgery happened
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>>107687848
No one respects women either way.
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i think i'm a woman
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>>107673514
>>107673558
People who probably loved watching this person melting down and unsubscribing not because of any issue with the content or personality of the streamer, but solely because they found out she's trans. The culture war has truly rotted some people's brains. Anything that might break you out of your bubble and make you realize "the enemy" is not a soulless monster, must be destroyed before it can potentially change your mind. What a sad life to live.
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>>107687848
no one watches women out of respect, and certainly not for their humor.
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>>107688302
There is something deeply manipulative about refusing to speak until your follower funded tranny surgery happens. Look at how the mods are laser focusing on "throat surgery". They will never admit the exact surgery because transparency isn't a value. They lie, cheat and steal.
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>>107688382
There isn’t actually any real voice surgery you guys are fucking insane
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>>107673732
Fuck you nose bandages are extremely cute. The only thing better is a nose scar
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>>107688395
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminization_laryngoplasty

thespherehunter, f4mi, Veronica explains and other YouTubers got this
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>>107688302
I don't want to watch content made by trannies (like you). It's as simple as that.
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>>107688395
Are you 12?
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idk can we just collectively agree to not watch if we care about whether or not she's a tranny, it's only been a thread but the topic already seems well-trodden.
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>>107687848
To put it less crassly than the other replies, I don't have any particular respect for being asexual to make a point, and even less so for career streaming. I respect good gameplay regardless of what else the streamer does or how they get views, aside from deplorable shit like nuisance streaming, faggotry or leftism.
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>>107687932
>>even /v/
>even
Kek, the fuck do you mean "even"? Obsessing over trannies and seeing them everywhere (or calling everyone such) is the most popular hobby on /v/, even more so than video games.
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>>107688560
There’s not even any evidence she’s a tranny, it’s just tourists from /v/ shitting up the thread with their obsession.
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>>107688306
Bullshit. That Courtney2 girl on YouTube got 300k views on her Dark Souls playthrough because she is genuinely funny as hell, and that's just an example I've watched in the last week.
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>>107672271
ewww souls slop
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>>107688560
unfortunately even if you enjoy watching and posting about her youll always have to endure it just like poor clio fans. they kinda asked for it for being phase fans but still, poor bastards.
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be gone from the 'log
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>>107688963
Desu that's a good sign, cuz I watch Clio every other day, and in the places where she's discussed tranny discourse has died down to nothing. It only comes up when an obvious ESL flip retard decides to throw some bait in the thread.
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>>107674641
If I had a nickel for every vtuber I've seen talk about being unable to talk for a long time and needing surgery to get their voice back, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't very much but it's strange that it's happened twice.
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>>107688874
people simp for mid girls too, especially with hoeflation, but either way if she was also titty streaming, it wouldn't take away from her humor or gameplay. the only people obsessing over such "purity" are posting on twatter all day instead of watching streams, let alone donating to streamers.
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>>107689585
i would do that bat very abnormally, thank you very much
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ok but why the fuck is Zullie's avatar not fucking Zullie? You had ONE JOB
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>>107689813
she wanted to be more than just zullie or legally distinct zullie, something about her thinking it being disrespectful to use the character that way.

plus bats are cool
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>>107684317
illusory wall is a giant faggot too, literally sucks cock
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>>107688438
it's too late anon. The tranny tricked you into watching their dark souls videos and now you're gay. You've been sucking cock all these years and you didn't even realize
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>>107676603
>immunity from criticism troons get on the net
keffals pulling the SSR victim card to deflect from being a pedo and get kiwi taken down really shouldn't have surprised me but it still did. Hope he blows his head off soon.
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>>107688406
Both look like shit ligger trash
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>>107684163
Jewish doctor enrichment surgeries
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>>107674641
She's Australian and raised money for surgery. Only cosmetic surgeries aren't covered. Put two and two together
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>>107692530
Late stage liberal democracy
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Holy fuck you can't even be a woman with a deep voice because neadarhtel monkey niggers on 4chan will do a deep dive transnalysis on the pitch and intonation of your voice.
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>neadarhtel
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>>107688302
This is not a result of the "culture war"

Trannies are sexually deformed weirdos who engage in all sorts of degeneracy and are a general plague on society. It's perfectly normal to be repulsed when someone stops their normal content in order to gain more attention, and in doing so reveals their depravity. They could have continued the content they were known for and loved for, instead they wanted to funnel some of that viewership onto their retarded bat-girl persona. Even without being trans its gross, being trans just makes it even more sick.



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