Because of people posting this image, we won't get a Valentines' stream
>>107674062lol that overlap on advent and justice, holy shit what a spiteful bitch
>>107674062Good
>>107674062Why did she hate hololive so much?
>>107674170Not Hololive, just Advent. She has nothing against Myth and Councilrys
>>107674231She clearly hated Mori and Ina in the end and didn't even acknowledge Kiaras existence. The only one she liked was Ame.
>>107676806She raided Kiara as Saba.
>>107674231>She has nothing against Myth and CouncilrysGura loved Myth and was on friendly terms with Council. The only reason things soured with Advent is that Biboo was 100% designed to be a Gura replacement and early on she did view Advent as competition. She did get along better with Justice so I think the reaction was more related to how bad the fighting got with Cover than anything else. The lack of an EN5 actually feels like management had promised Gura that they would stop attempting to replace Myth. They had some reason for delaying EN5 since it's unusual how they lost 4 talents but are still delaying new gen debuts. This year has been really suspicious even beyond the 7 graduations since there hasn't been a hint of EN5, the Promise nendos have completely vanished, and ENreco chapter 3 is getting delayed.
>>107674062>we won't get a Valentines' streamat this point you'll be lucky to ever get a stream again
>>107676857On accident
>>107677506>She did get along better with JusticeLiterally only because ENRECO forced her to And saying "Justice" is burying the lede because it only CC and Raora>The lack of an EN5 actually feels like management had promised GuraWTF is this fanfiction? That's saying FlowGlow is an attempt replace Gen1>there hasn't been a hint of EN5We literally know its happening sometime next year because they opened for EN6>Promise nendos have completely vanishedBlame good smile>and ENreco chapter 3 is getting delayed.How the fuck does something that doesn't have date get delayed???
>>107676857I thought that was a fan raid. Did she actually do it?
>>107678745stop with your excuses and face reality
>>107678790She didn't. It was a fan raid.
>>107674130I don't know, I still think those were mandated by Cover to get her fans back to watching Hololive and by extension exposing them to the new gens.
>>107674062It's almost fucking 2026, and you retards are still making the same 3 copy-paste Gura/Saba threads as you have been for the past 3+ years. It also doesn't help that all the replies are the same with little to no variation at all. Wtf is even the point?
>>107680126>mandated by CoverMight be an actual retard, anon.
>>107674062How do you make one of these
>>107682082>Please, can you stream to bring your audience back>Fine>Overlaps new members>Th-thank you for streaming
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>>107674062Why the sudden activity on Valentine's though?
>>107680964>LEAVE THE MILLIONAIRE STREAMER ALONE
>>107680126seriously what is with this white knighting. Cover would want her to stream REGULARLY but it is clear Gura has the choice of when she does.
>>107678745>>Promise nendos have completely vanished>Blame good smileHaving an entire gen of nendos vanishing after Cover cancelled the Mumei nendo is way too much of a coincidence. There was definitely some type of behind the scenes fights that went on and management was so angry they cancelled all of them. The EN branch often feels like Cover is making every mistake they could make and only HoloEarth is more of a disaster.>>107686101>seriously what is with this white knighting.If the only talent to leave Hololive was Gura you would have more of an argument but the graduations currently include Aqua, Ame, Chloe, Fauna, Mumei, Gura, Shion, Ao, and Kanata. The only talent who specifically said they won't be an indie vtuber is Kanata while every other talent was clearly fighting with Cover. When there are so many talents leaving because of Cover than it's reasonable to blame Cover.
>>107686720>AquaAlready spent 6 years at Cover and did what she wanted to do. Her indie model was only because her fandom wanted to see her back. But she already wants to move on with her life>ShionSee AquaI also want to point out to you what both Aqua and Shion joined when they were VERY YOUNG. Compare that to hags like Korone and Mio who are sticking to the company hard. The people who usually stay at Hololive worked in 'real' jobs and know whats really best>ChloeWanted to do her vtuber thing with her sister. Cover didn't want to nepohire the sister, so she opted for affiliate. A bit retarded, but understandable and 'very brave' (clap clap im shaking)>Ao Mental case. She literally quit every real life idol group she was in previously.>FaunaLLD. Kiara hinted at it in Holotalk, its the REAL reason. Its also why Kronii was pissed with her.>Mumei>KanataHealth issues. Especially Kanata, have you forgotten she's literally half fucking deaf? Also Kanata got to do what she wanted - a Sololive and an album.Out of all the above, only Ame really stands out as having a creative vision that's different from Cover. (No, I refuse to count Chloe because she wanted to nepohire) As for Gura, I want to say she was fucking lazy, but I'll be nice and say "we don't really know". My point is, you can't really just say "i-i-its Covers fault!!" when each of the girls has a unique reason for leaving. I do agree its a lot of graduations at one go - but its also when the contract renewal period occurs. Its why you don't get sporadic graduations, only terminations.
>>107687138You got Shion, Chloe, Fauna and Kanata wrong.
>>107687300Nah I am pretty sure Fauna left because of the LLD
>>107686720>Having an entire gen of nendos vanishing after Cover cancelled the Mumei nendo is way too much of a coincidence. There was definitely some type of behind the scenes fights that went on and management was so angry they cancelled all of them.Cover does not control Nendo production retardIf they did they would've gen ID girls pity Nendos just for existing, instead you get shitters like Iofi publicly whining about not getting Nendos cuz Goodsmile know they wouldn't sell units>The EN branch often feels like Cover is making every mistakeThe only mistake Cover has ever made was hiring flakes like Sana/Fauna/Mumei/Gura
>>107687138>but its also when the contract renewal period occurs. Its why you don't get sporadic graduations, only terminations.That's an extremely incorrect statement, Chloe and Shion's graduations were nowhere near where their renewal should have been, and Aqua and Ao were a couple of months off, Kanata is the only one that fits the bill, and that's assuming her contract started with her debut, which is quite unlikely
>>107687487no, I'm pretty sure she posted the LLD because she left.
>>107687725Fauna wasn't a flake, she was their most consistent streamer for a while.
>>107687138>Fauna spoileroh, okay. this post is fanfiction.
>>107687138>Mumei>Health issuesShe literally fucking got angry in members stream at people who only focused on health issues, and specifically reminded everyone that there is another reason - disagreements with management
>>107687138>I also want to point out to you what both Aqua and Shion joined when they were VERY YOUNG.Okay, but Shion worked at Hololive for almost 7 years it's not a good sign that Cover refused to settle things with her. If she wanted a model redesign to have a less pedobait outfit that would have been an easy fix and they gave Astel an outfit redesign so it's noticeable that management so often treats the Hololive talents like garbage. Even for a sexist Japanese company that is getting a little obvious.>Its also why Kronii was pissed with her.There is no chance that Kronii was angry over the marriage announcement and it's more likely that she was upset that Fauna left Hololive. Kronii had one of the most embarrassing designs in Hololive it somewhat makes sense that she wanted Fauna to keep going at contract negotiations for another year or two (even if there was almost zero chance that Cover would let Fauna skip out from the paywall concerts).>>Mumei>Health issues.Cover treated Mumai badly in her last year and I don't think management would have done that if her graduation was only due to bad health.>>107687725>Cover does not control Nendo productionAnon who do you think owns the trademarks for Hololive characters? The reason GSC adds that note saying "pending licensor's final approval" is because the company does have to agree to the final designs and they can cancel the license.
>>107687725>Goodsmile know they wouldn't sell unitsThere are actual literally whos getting Nendos no problem, even ID would sell just fine, let alone Promise.Fucking Anya from Mouthwashing has a Nendo, and it was a stupid horror game FOTM, who is buying this? Some people would buy Holo Nendos on flashy vtuber design alone.
>>107687138>>107687487>>107688407Let Me Stay Here. And lore drop on main.
>>107688828>GSC: Hey we wanna make a figure of [Holo] >Cover: Ok That's the full extent of control Cover have over what Goodsmile doesYour whole "they canceled Promise's Nendo because....they're LE EBIL!!!" cope just sounds dumb when Cover doesn't have say in who gets what, and how quickly it gets done. A good example how Gura got a nendo made of her within her 1st year but the rest of Myth took ages come>>107688985>Fucking Anya from Mouthwashing has a NendoYou're saying this as if Mouthwashing wasn't fucking massive in gaming zeitgeist or as if Anya wasn't the most popular design Makes infinitely more sense why GCS would make merch for that over a 3view vtuber who speaks Indonesian most times
>>107689345It was massive for a month, among people who watched a YouTube video essay about it, do you expect those people to buy Nendos? Compared to vtuber fans, with Hololive backing? Some would buy ID just to have full Hololive collection.>the most popular design Yeah because she was like the only female in the cast.
>>107689345i'm not any of the anons involved in this thread but the fact that you've replied multiple times to outfitschizo makes you the biggest retard in the threadwhy the fuck did you still reply to him after he spouted that garbage about shion and kronii's outfits
>>107689800everyone has a first time with Outfitschizo.
Do holopags ever consider that they might not want to spread negativity on main especially considering the state of Hololive?
>>107687138The LLD still perplexes me, because there was no reason to do it.
>>107691774Peace of mind. She doesn't have to lie about anything to her fans anymore, keep a secret family, and that's good for her when she wants to stream for years.
>Holo EN5 debuts drop>we get constant saba streams for the next 2 weeks
>>107687138Gura's reasons have to be similar to Fauna kek chumbuds will deny it but this shit makes no sense otherwise
>>107691774And there was no reason not to (in her mind)
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>>107674170hororaibu does not liko marriedo talentos
>>107674062Because of images like this we don't get IDs in this shithole
>>107695263It'll never end
>>107695263KWAB
>>107689345>Your whole "they canceled Promise's Nendo because....they're LE EBIL!!!" cope just sounds dumb when Cover doesn't have say in who gets whatCover owns the trademarks and they definitely are a major factor in which talents get nendos and when they get them. GoodSmile wouldn't hype up their nendos and than cancel every single nendo in their gen because two of them graduated. The NDA means that we never directly hear about the contract fights but something went on behind the scenes after the Mumei graduation which caused that. Advent got their MMD models released before Promise and it will be extremely suspicious if Advent nendos get released earlier as well. Hololive is a business so they do consider merch sales but the EN branch is 63 months old and Myth is still the only gen that has nendoroid merch....
All of you retards need to stop replying to the obvious fucking bait Outfit Schizo puts out since they've proven time and again they don't know fucking shit for shit. And in case you don't know:>>107688828 (bullshit "fight behind the scenes" narrative regurgitation)>>107686720 (oh look, it's the start of their "le pedobait/coomerbait outfits" word vomit)Now watch as they reply to me thinking what they say has substance with some long diatribe copy pasted from their weird schizo doc.
>>107680126>Listen Gura we want you to overlap every Bijou stream after her debut for 2 weeks because this will somehow help herKanicucks are something else. Anything she does is managements fault. I'm surprised you guys aren't blaming her current hiatus on management.
>>107676857>>107678790Of course she didn't.
>>107699903>All of you retards need to stop replying to the obvious fucking bait Outfit Schizo puts out since they've proven time and again they don't know fucking shit for shit.Anon there has been 7 graduations in 2025. Even if you are still in denial about Sana wanting a model redesign it was obvious that Shion hated the pedobait design and that is why she went on a 7 month hiatus before deciding on graduation. I won't deny that Cover delaying a Hololive redesign for several years while demoralizing the EN branch sounds absurd but that would explain the numerous "health" breaks, the years of malicious compliance, and why they are still getting into fights with management (only the worst of Cover bootlickers would argue the Promise nendos got cancelled because GoodSmile didn't think they would sell).
>>107674062Lol. There is no fucking way Saba is gonna miss out on a indie V-Day merch drop. Be real.
>>107676857i like the saba shitstirring psychopath rrat but this is too obvious
>>107674062She wasn't going to stream regardless.
>>107674062Good, cumbuds deserve nothing for being pathetic enablers.
>>107674062Christmas came early for me.Received the re-release of Dino Gura and Ebi-chan. And today, received the preorder of Saba's merch.Spending the holidays with family. Good time to be alive.
guys, i just took a shit
>>107674062won't be missed
>>107677506Outfitschizo...
>>107687138Are you retarded. Aqua, Shion, Chloe and Mumei all talked about disagreements with management and it's literally ALL KANATA HAS TALKED ABOUT.. Her ear is practically a secondary concern as far as why Kanata is graduating. Fauna and Ao are the only ones you're right about here. It's clear that something is up at Cover.
gooba....
>>107714612>Her ear is practically a secondary concernFuck youFUCK YOUFuck you foreverFuck yourselfGo fuck yourself, you FUCK
