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It is kinda kino when you think about it. It was our own Dance of the Dragons.
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Not Hololive's problem
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>>107685654
It became Hololive's problem when multiple HoloEN girls decided to pull the "graduate, drop drama and profit" meta
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>>107685355
What malaise?
Other than some irrelevant awards show calling a shitposting peanut a vtuber I'm not sure what you're on about.
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>>107685905
>multiple corpos going belly-up.
>PL Taboo shattered
>Google Dockeys every other month.
>Introduction of heavy moralizing in Vtubing drama.
>Chuubas cancelled left and right.
>No more Vtuber awards at all.
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>>107685355
you tried this last thread. no, it started before that incident.
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>>107685355
Nijisanji took a gigantic iron rod and fucked their own asshole with it while saying NOOO Selen NOOO while she stares at disbelief from across the room after being bullied by them.
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>>107685355
Women given the opportunity and enough attention, even if they are inept-ugly-femcels, will be a whore. EN is just really adept at it.
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>>107685654
yeah they are too busy pretending it isn't their managements fault and that the talents overwork themselves to the point of health issues.
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>>107685654
>most of SNOT is tired of hololive, on the brink of quitting
>Mumei would usually talk them down
>Nijisanji's Selen humiliation ritual
>Selen talks to Mumei about it, Mumei is apalled and rushes to support her friend
>Hololive puts an immediate collab ban on Dokibird as to not cause tensions between their companies
>Last straw for Mumei, doesn't care about Hololive anymore
>Dokibird is wildly successful
>Talks with Mumei, rest of SNOT behind the scenes
>Introduces them to Mint, who is disillusioned with Niji
>Mint is being poached by Vshojo, promises the girls a place there too
>All of them graduate rapid fire, under the assumption they will be successful like Dokibird and probably join Vshojo
>Hololive magic gone
>Vshojo has too many eggs in the basket and talents start talking
>Vshojo implodes
>Nijisanji EN is on life support

Firing Selen was the worst thing that happened to all three big corpos
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>>107686622
your rrat would have worked if Mumei didn't disappear to pursue her own career instead. For shit posting purposes you could have used Fauna but we all know they retired because they want to raise the stakes with their SOs and be family women.
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>>107686691
A convenient half truth, she was very clear there was something she, and the other two, were deeply unsatisfied with and why they wouldn't go affiliate like Ame
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>>107686286
>Literally just Vshojo and had more to do with bad book-keep
>Nosey doxxfags
>Literally what the fuck does this even mean?
>Twitter is not real
>Meaningless award shit nobody really cares about
>>107686830
>and why they wouldn't go affiliate like Ame
She's literally not even a vtuber anymore man, why would she do that?
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>>107686622
Truth nuke.
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>>107686622
Good. Fuck corpos.
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>>107686622
Nice fan fiction faggot.
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>>107687055
>why would she do that?
Sometimes people just want to be appreciated for what they are, instead of wearing a mask.
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>>107686830
they didn't continue streaming to re-ignite their career they wanted to make bank for themselves of their merch deals while they still had their reputation.
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>>107685355
No, if anything it made things better because the sex pests of NijiEN have to think twice before interacting with indies. The current issue with western vtubers is that they don't really know what vtubers are beyond just being an anime avatar.
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>>107685355
>Dance of the Dragons
you just thought this sounded clever anon admit it. Books 4 and 5 suck.
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Niji EN bottomed out, and then they bottomed out again
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>>107685697
Nobody is replying to this fantastic comment, so here is a (you)
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>>107685697
never happened
>>107686426
It's 50/50
>>107686622
>AO3
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>>107685355
No, it's the proliferation of twitch whores moonlighting as Vtubers
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>>107687478
Based indieGOD
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>>107690275
You forgot Pippa
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>>107685355
Reminder that there is still zero evidence of Elira having done anything wrong.
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>>107690261
This. Dramaniggers were always going to exist, but having them pull from Twitch and all that entails, /pol/, wannabe Camwhores etc has done unfixable things to EN vtubing as a whole
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>>107690505
If Dokibird's documents named Elira as one of her bullies, then I am sure as fuck trusting her word over Ms. Blackstream.
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>>107690505
Defending a black company is a wrong thing to do.
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>>107685355
>>107686622
Dokifags are delusional.
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>>107691074
and Dokibird brought in a bunch more of those dramaniggers.
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>>107692213
but the black company made her do it.
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>>107685355
I'm glad that this happen, because after this westerners and redditors never touched Nijisanji anymore
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>>107686333
Nobody shred a tear for Yugo and Zaion/Sayu's termination could've raised a lot more eyebrows had she remained in Niji for at least a full year and a half or so, giving her more time to form new relationships within other nijis (regardless if the majority were the equivalent of a toxic wasteland to get along with).

People keep forgetting the main reason the Selen shock happened in the first place was due to her being the perfect archetype of a brotuber in the long run, a laughing goofball liked by everyone and easy to get along with other chuubas regardless of affiliation, on top of catching the most interesting sponsorship deals. Niji's management was too stubborn and Riku + their higher-ups too proudy with their stupid guidelines to realize how big of a brand risk they were putting themselves in outside of Japan by constantly stumping on her foot. The Last Cup of Coffee MV getting canned the day after being released due to not passing their retarded standards was the last straw.
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>>107692878
Not as delusional as the ndf.
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>>107685355
qrd?
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>>107703123
>Niji terminates Selen, the dragoons revolt.
>Selen accuses Nijisanji of fostering a toxic work environment.
>Niji releases a 15 minute video denouncing Selen (now Dokibird) as a person, backfires completely, any color's stock temporarily dives 40%, Nijien crippled ever since.
>Incident flooded EN scene with drama obsessed tourists looking to turn every new yab anywhere into a morality play.
>New meta established of large ex-corpo indies who ignore PL taboos and subtly hint at past abuse at their earlier jobs.
>Result is a tidal wave of yabs and witch hunts that engulf all of EN vtubing.
>Many corpos go bankrupt.
>Whore clan tears itself apart.
>Big holos go indie, lose interest, stop streaming.
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>>107690505
2 years later while under intense scrutiny, the evidence is:
>Elira has a lot of merch
>she didn't collab with Selen very often
>she is friends with Millie and Enna
all of which was already known from day - 300. numerous ex nijis leak information like a faucet but still nothing but speculation



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