Phase never said the reason

She stole the model back

>>107691573
Didn't lia thrash her on twitter?

You also learned Phase never took her IP and she lied to Shondo about it.

>>107691816
Why didn't Phase dispute her narrative it's too late now most people are convinced Phase steals IPs and won't join Invaders with their original model, channel, or socials

Shut the fuck up, holofag.

>>107691857
Only retarded holotrash believed Yuri anyway.

>>107691800
Lia trashes everyone but hides it behind "ITS JUST A BIT".

>>107691857
That's a petty niji type move. Yuri is retarded and she isn't worth the effort, she will fuck things up for herself on her own.

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>>107691756
Phase did put out this statement which obviously contains many lies and misinformation to try and destroy her reputation for daring to leave.

>>107691816
there's a reason she's not using her phase model and she's going back to her original name

>>107692142
maybe neither of them are lying, it seems yuri chose not to renew the contract and let it expire because of some disagreement or dissatisfaction she had with the company, her statement in the OP doesn't really elaborate on anything like that, she just explains the mechanism by which her relationship with them ended, it doesn't even explicitly dispute their description of what happened either

>>107691816
Shondo is a fucking schizo who drew her own conclusions because she hates corpos.

>>107692235
Phase Connect alleges that her renewal of contract were deemed impossible by them because of Yuri breaching the contract, which couldn't be further from the truth as she had no intentions to prolong her contract with them.
So yeah, if they're willing to lie about that then it seriously brings into doubt the rest of their statement, which resulted in her having to defend herself against slander from Phasefans in her tweet.

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>>107691573
She leaked/doxed her coworkers out of jealousy

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>>107692451
Your proof for this slander?

>>107692559
About as much proof as OP

>>107692396
>her renewal of contract were deemed impossible by them because of Yuri breaching the contract
>she had no intentions to prolong her contract with them.
Both of these things can be true at the same time, she broke contract and had no intention of staying anyways.

>>107692323
Her full time job is juggling schizos and fucking up when they find out about each other.

>>107692142
What is obvious is that Yuri burned bridges with talent when she left and pissed many of them off. I doubt it is a company union angle she must have fucked up on a personal level.

>>107691573
They kicked her out because she was called Yuri. Can't have that in Straightconnect, not even in name.
The viewers won't feel cucked enough if they think a liver might be into women.

>>107692819
So you just invented that to slander her for leaving Phase Connect.

>>107692865
No both can't be true at the same time as the statement in Phase Connect's termination notice uses "therefore", implying that the reason no renewal happened is due to an alleged breach of contract and not the fact that a renewal was never desired by her in the first place.

>>107692919
Even if other talents are made at her, Sakana or other Phase Connect employees might have simply lied about her, just like they lied about her in the fake termination notice and then hid behind a permanent NDA.

>>107692944
There wasn't really any need to establish that she didn't want to renew her contract because renewing her contract was out of the question anyways. Its like after getting fired saying that you actually quit, maybe you fully intended on quitting, but you weren't sticking around whether you wanted to be there or not.

>>107692919
>>107693003
any way you cut it it is weird that none of the talents have interacted with her ever since and she had to start all over and find a new circle to hang with, like do they fear repercussions if they did or something? is it just unspoken that once you're out you're out?

>>107693017
She wasn't fired when she left at the natural ending point of her contract and the termination notice is obviously meant to protect Phase Connects image of "nobody wants to graduate" at that time, despite Yuri wanting to leave on her own accord.

>>107691573
Yuri knows the serious crimes she committed against Phase Connect. Serious, severe crimes.

>>107693076
Deciding to leave isn't a serious crime.

>>107693107
If I had but one bullet and I was faced with an enemy and a traitor I would shoot the traitor every time

Long live Phase Connect, Love Live Fishman, Long Live China

>>107691573
but i thought fishman was keanu wholesome chungus 100?????

>>107693074
This came to you in a dream, there's nothing worth responding to here.

>>107693256
Sorry but if the contract naturally ended then no termination of contract actually happened and Phase Connect is lying.
It's pretty obvious why they would lie about that to protect their image too.

>>107693037
It could also be that they're all mad at her and want nothing to do with her

>>107693309
idk I don't think it's unreasonable to assume that if any current phase talent ever left they'd be blacklisted from interacting anymore. as much as they appear to be less of a walled garden than holo it seems like they still have measures to make sure you stay "part of the family"

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>>107691573
Most Phase girls are mentally ill (usually in a good way). That being said, I trust the word of the company much more than I trust anything any of the girls say. Yuri is obviously misconstuing things to make herself look better. In all honesty both sides probably could have handled things better, but Phase is no black corpo that tries to destroy the rep of anyone who leaves Nijisanji style.

>>107693017
This guy thinks. I like this guy.

>>107693359
>I trust the word of the company much more than I trust anything any of the girls say.
It's the opposite for me, especially since the company didn't deliver any kind of proof for their allegations and Yuri is too poor to even afford a gaming pc, let alone go through a legal battle with Phase Connect to defend her reputation.

>but Phase is no black corpo that tries to destroy the rep of anyone who leaves Nijisanji style.
It seems like that's exactly what they did here with Yuri, though.

>>107692142
How do you know Yuri isn't the one lying?

>>107693037
Maybe they don't Iike her

>>107693428
Because she's innocent until proven guilty and the attacking party, Phase Connect, never provided proof for their allegations.

>>107691756
if contract ends it is not termination, termination means contract ended prematurely like you do

>>107693461
>never provided proof for their allegations
imo this would be worse and more vindictive than what they actually did, at least they gave her a chance to save face by leaving room for doubt

>>107693302
Depends on the timing of the breach of contract, if it happened before the contract expired then you don't just get to run out the clock and call time out once its time to leave. These incidents aren't always discovered immediately and often take time to resolve.

>>107693428
Because she got her original model back and Phase hasn't put up any statements to contradict anything she has said so far. If she stole money or did any of the shit they said she did they would have never given her back her old model and everything that comes with it. She also would have not made all those posts answering questions and reviving Yuri.

So if Phase didn't steal her old IP
And she got fired and her new IP stolen
And she could return as her old IP at any point
Then she let people think Phase stole both her IPs
And she had the emergency model and subathon just to steal money from her fans

>>107693485
Except she clearly denies the baseless allegations aimed against her, therefore unless Phase Connect can actually muster any kind of proof for what they said it's obvious she's innocent by law and by any kind of moral standard.

>>107693491
If you just let a contract run out it's not a termination of a contract, these things are legally distinct and have actually meaning in front of a court.

>>107693522
Its quite clear she couldn't use the Cyberlive version of Yuri. Which is why she bought Nano. Only recently something happened behind the scenes that allowed her to get Yuri back.

>>107693499
They never said she stole money or made any specific allegations.

>>107693545
>she couldn't use the Cyberlive version of Yuri.
Pretty sure she's already said this wasn't the case.

>>107693522
>So if Phase didn't steal her old IP
>And she could return as her old IP at any point
Proof?

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Yeah not trusting for a second someone that posts this then engages in catfighting immediately after.

>>107693729
I don't see anything like that in the comments.

>>107693839
Her very next thing was RTing Hime's personal account. It has since been unRT'd or she was blocked. Not posting the account but it's easy enough to find screenshots of it in the archive from a few week ago.

>>107693923
How is retweeting something equivalent to engaging in an catfight?

>>107693466
Legally, if you look at Canadian law websites like https://www.adamsdrafting.com/termination-and-expiration/, they make a clear distinction that expiration can only happen without one side or the other taking active action against the contract in one way or another invoking it which Phase clearly did in the notice. It doesn't matter what Yuri said because Phase as one of the two parties clearly objected and invoked its cession and publicly announced it so it can not legally be called an expiration even though in practice that was probably what it was.

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>>107694435
This random website is not supporting your argument. She reached the end of her contract therefore calling it a termination is just flat out wrong.

>>107693418
>I trust the word of the company much more than I trust anything any of the girls say.
>It's the opposite for me
It should be mentioned that this isn't merely Yuri's word against the company, but Yuri against the company AND all the english speaking girls there at the time who proceeded to unperson her and take Phase's side. That'd be Yuri against like, 12 girls, maybe 11 because Pippa never cut contact with her (this is actually a point in Yuri's favor because Pippa historically is a good judge of character.)

So to keep pushing the narrative you have to either assume that all 11 girls were snakes conspiring against or at least indifferent to Yuri, or they're good but Phase is SO evil that they've been keeping them quiet under threat for years.
>It seems like that's exactly what they did here with Yuri, though.
If anything Phase took the bigger reputational blow, by refusing to throw Yuri under the bus and pull a Niji listing every reason for the falling out, which lost them hiring opportunities for potential invaders because of the IP theft reputation that was completely buried only this year, ironically by Yuri's own late statement.

Ultimately though, the "reputational damage" wasn't done by either Phase or Yuri, but by the hordes of shit stirrers in the countless threads here and in other sites hoping for more drama throughout the years.

>>107691573
the corpo: we fire her
the talent: no they don't

first time seeing terminated vtuber playing defense for corpo

>>107694623
>literally quoting a comment
Yeah, I ain't continuing this shit conversation. Go refute the exact court cases and sources the blog post goes over or I'm just going to plain ignore you.

She's using the fact that Amaris Yuri and Fuura Yuri are separate legal entities. What's likely is that her contract as Amaris lapsed and she signed a new contract for a new name and model. Or she's lying about it all like how she's lying about creating Amaris Yuri.

>>107694661
Whether she's hated by a Phase clique is irrelevant. They might just hate her because she planned to ruin their current companies optics by leaving, or Phase Connect internally lied about her or any other reason that has nothing to do with the legality of the situation. This isn't a real defense for Phase Connect who have yet to prove she actually did something.


>>107694670
First, she wasn't actually terminated and secondly, she isn't defending the corpo but pointing out how they lied about her.


>>107694689
It was literally just a fucking seminar you idiot, not a court case. The random lawyer in the comment is just as valid as the blog post itself.

>>107693977
I'd listen to the phasefag. They're professional dramaniggers so they'd know best on these sorts of topics after all.

>>107692142
Based. Fuck that useless cunt.

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>>107693977
notHime was subtweeting Yuri almost immediately after her announcement and Yuri retweeted it. It isn't the first time she has been less than subtle about her dislike of Yuri, whether it's over something valid or just menhera slights is your pick.

Phase is not a real company.
At least 3 phase livers including gen 1 have recently confirmed not being on contract anymore, because
> The contract? I forgor to renew it haha

>>107695194
How does posting "LMAAAO" imply she hates Yuri? Maybe she posted it because the Termination notice was ridiculous and Yuri agreed and therefore retweeted it?

I'm slowly starting to think that Phaseshills have rrated so much about her that Phasecucks just started to actually believe all this nonsense.

>>107691573
I still remember a collab with Yuri, Lumi, and Pippa where Lumi and Pippa yapped together the entire time but Yuri went non-verbal and just sat there playing with different PNGs and memes. I really felt that from Yuri, that resonated with me. I kinda regret not becoming one of Yuri's whales before she imploded. It wasn't like
>I can save her
but more
>She feels different from that lying whore Lumi

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>>107691573
>As a simp I would rather believe a mentally ill woman who is a known grifter over that of a corporation with legal responsibilities to not only itself but its talent.

>all on no actual evidence presented becuase neither Phase nor Yuri has shown the reasons why she was fired.

You've proven nothing anon, and shes not going to fuck you man.

>>107695308
>shes not going to fuck you man
Bro if you haven't gotten over that normalfag mindset by now what are you even doing in vtubing? Nobody actually thinks she's going to fuck them and sex is not actually the goal for simps.

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>>107695258
Dude you're making yourself look retarded.
Its very well know Rie does not like Yuri.

>>107691573
>>107692142
>>107693499
God if any other company did this we'd never hear the end of it for years but because it's Phase this board will bend over backwards to defend it, dramatubers will sweep it under the rug and never make a video on it, and Phase will get away with it and create another thread about how they "do nothing" and "win."

>>107695308
You are a simp for the company, I'm a detached observer.
And what I'm observing is that the company intentionally slandered her when she tried to quit.

>>107695334
Yuri has fucked over everyone in her life dude. Even before your silly take that all of us are simps, she's still not worth defending.
>>107695351
No you're a lying bastard, who has no clue what happened.

>>107695308
Post the tweet she was responding to.

>>107693539
>denies the baseless allegations aimed against her,
Anon the accusations she's denying are thread rrats from vt, read the document until the end if you're going to necro really tame drama from a month ago

>>107695258
I don't have the xitter screencap on hand, but she has straight up told Yuri to fuck off with down playing what she did.
I'll let you go find it yourself since that's all I'll spoonfeed, you also sounds like you're already set on how you feel about the situation anyway.

>>107695308
Phasenegro is so mad right now

>schizo-kun is a month late on drama and wants to argue with himself
grim, meds now.

>>107693418
>It's the opposite for me, especially since the company didn't deliver any kind of proof for their allegations
So you would've wanted them to pull an Idol and start dropping tactical nukes on her over her termination? Because from her doc it just seems like she let phase eat the bad rep for years over ""stealing her IP"" when it was all her being a menhera after her termination

>>107695376
>No you're a lying bastard
Point out one lie.

>>107695392
Who do you think encouraged rrating against her with the fake termination notice?
Yes, Phase Connect itself didn't make any specific allegations but broad ones - based on the fact that they "had to terminate her contract" but as we learned from her, her contract was naturally running out so yeah, Phase Connect was intentionally slandering her with the termination notice.

>>107695258
>How does posting "LMAAAO" imply she hates Yuri?
When yuri literally reposts it in the most petty way possible?

>>107695351
Nah, you are a liar and write fnafiction without any facts. >>107695376

Dogshit thread, dogshit "people".

>>107695445
>Who do you think encouraged rrating against her with the fake termination notice?
Now you're going into the territory of claiming phase itself is just spending time on vt to rrat about it when I know I'll just rrat on pcg for shits and giggles
Meds man

>>107692013
>>107691995

she literally running defense for phase
shit holofags believing her
WTF wrong with you

>>107695475
I wouldn't be surprised if the /here/ org did that, would you?
But that's not even what I stated. Just by making a false termination notice they threw her into the bus and invited people to rrat about the "many reasons" she was terminated, when in fact, she just wanted to let her contract end naturally.

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>>107691573
>contract termination
>says herself that she was fired
dumb anti

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>>107695413
Au contraire faggarito, the fact that theres been no evidence that Phase did anything wrong means anti's are more pissed off than anything.
All the more when even YURI admits they didn't do anything wrong.

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It didn't have to end like this

>>107695349
You're right, if this was any other company dramafags would have combed through Yuri's Q&A to find ammunition against it. Yet because it's Phase it was only discovered now.

>>107695512
This translates to : "They finally let me go."

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>>107691573
Phasebrowns behaving like subhumans?
No Way...

>>107695570
Its a day thats ends in Y

>>107695381
>>101617660
There's more but she deleted her string of tweets.

>>107691573
dude forget about yuri, it old stuff
why this girl keep asking for prayer
https://www.youtube.com/post/UgkxTUFRblu3BijfiH2HgW7mNY7cCqRV6M00
isn't she supposed to be phasing in ?

>>107695831
Cause she's physically sick anon.

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>>107695831
I will never forget about yuri

>>107695693
I don't see a date in that screenshot + what I notice is that the poster tries to create the narrative that Yuri has to provide evidence against all the random and wild accusations that get thrown at her because of the fake termination notice, which is obviously bollocks.
It's innocent until proven guilty for good reason.

>>107695376
>simps don't actually want sex
>YOU THINK ALL OF US ARE SIMPS?!
You got brain damage?

>>107695334
>sex is not actually the goal for simps.
It actually is, they just will never actually pursue it because they won't be able to handle the rejection. So they're perpetually orbiting instead.

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i hurt myself today....

I love how thoroughly the phase schizo that keeps posting this topic gets shut down every time. You'd think his tactic would change, but it never does.

>>107695025
Fact check: she was terminated, officially.

So let me get this straight
>it turns out Phase never terminated a talent
>it turns out Phase never took a talents IP

thank you yuri for clearing up the 2 biggest blemishes on the phase permanent record

>>107691573
Phasefags, just move on.

>>107697195
Terminating a problem talent isn't a blemish. Lying about terminating a talent whose contract expired normally just to make her look bad is far worse.

>>107697287
>again I have no proof, please allow my emotions to tell you what to believe instead.

>>107697287
>>107695512

>>107697287
Is it worse than said talent lying to other vtubers like Shondo saying Phase stole her IP when they did no such thing?

>>107695475
>Now you're going into the territory of claiming phase itself is just spending time on vt to rrat about it
After Vshojo got caught out paying people to shit on other corpos on /vt/ this isn't really a bold claim anymore

Factually and indisputably, her contract was terminated 1 week before it expired on May 1.

She factually may have refused to re-sign. Both things can be true, but for her to say she was not terminated is not up for her to say and is a lie.

Phase terminated their year long agreement with her 7 days early, thus she was terminated.

>>107692013
I don't know wtf yuri is.

>>107691857
>why didn't a corporation start a mudslinging war with a crazy person?
gee anon it seems like ignoring her and moving on worked out pretty fucking perfectly for them

>>107693352
newfag doesn't remember back when the Origins girls would fire up the ol' PL account during contract renewal time every year.

>>107697951
only happened with Pippa, and it wasn't during contract renewal. She was on her alt activley for her entire first year. She even one time forgot she has a collab with Tenma and no-showed it because she decided to stream on moth and Tenma sat there waiting for hours.

>>107697325
stop coping, even sayu confirmed that her invasion deal would have had her give up her IP and 50% of all revenue

>>107698155
Tenma leaking that Phase takes 50% of all revenue was one of the worst things to happen to the corporation. I bet hundreds of people who might have considered auditioning or joining dropped the idea when they heard that.

>>107698191
they have had no problem whatsoever hiring new talents and retaining talent

>>107698155
phase landed much bigger invaders than her. sounds like a skill issue on sayu's part that she does not know how to negotiate. or she thought she was a bigger deal than she was and thought she was gonna get special treatment

>>107692142
I like how this just says "lies" with absolutely nothing to back up that assertion.

>>107693037
>like do they fear repercussions if they did or something?

Or have you considered that what she did was so bad that no one wanted anything to do with her? She was accused of doxxing her coworkers to her personal groomcord.

>>107693352
>meanwhile in reality, /vt/ can't go 15 seconds without bringing it up ever since she got terminated

RE Sayu & Phase
Phase were in a different spot when they talked. They were on the come up, but they were still kinda inflexible it felt like. Sayu approached them, Phase were interested, they gave her a 1st offer their standard Invader talent contract, Sayu was not interested in that and then she never countered talks broke off and then she complained on stream about it which was kinda unprofessional but Sayu gonna Sayu.

Regardless, Sayu was never a fit for them. She would last 1 year there before she would have decided to not renew her contract. She does not pass the vibe check and is too much of a heat seeker. Not worth the trouble. Clara 2.0

>>107698285
>they have had no problem whatsoever hiring new talents and retaining talent
They couldn't even debut one of their new models this last gen because there was no actress to fill it.

>>107698398
that would sting more if the gen was not overloaded with 6 talents, including multiple liggers

>>107698388
also Sayu would have been a pretty big get for Phase at the time. Back when being fresh off the NIJI yacht meant something Now you have ex NIJIs in micro corpos like HeartSync and GlitchStars

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>>107698155
>her invasion deal would have had her give up her IP

Clio and Mari Sleepy and Lumi have all confirmed they own their characters and pre phase models.
Mari is still affiliated with mythic talent and Clio farms sponsorships through an Australian streamer agency, they don't pay phase cut on that.
Jelly Hoshiumi is legally distinct entity from moon jelly, despite having the same look and name.

>>107698398
You mean the actress who had a psychotic episode posting about demons on Twitter? Yeah I wonder why she hasn't debuted yet. Such a mystery.

Wow I can’t believe there would be so many posts for mom tier gossip

>>107698299
Look at the OP post.

>>107697412
>Factually and indisputably, her contract was terminated 1 week before it expired on May 1.
There's nothing to back up that claim unless you actually see the contract. A contract doesn't have to be 1 year on the dot or whatever so this isn't a factual assertion at all.

>>107698944
Eh, they could just be contractility forced to say this. I don't agree with op but corpos are corpos and like all of them have failed and had these rug pulls. I wouldn't put it past any corpo to lie about someone owning something just to get them only to pull the mask off if they don't do what they want.

I wouldn't be surprised if one of the invaders graduates/ wants to phase out and they have some clause like "you keep your IP however any old models, both during and before phase are property of phase and cannot be used" as a way to say they they own it but clip their wings when they leave. Op is definitely fucking nuts but I've learned never to trust corpos because at the end of the day money comes first 2jtwr

>>107699265
Not like Yuri posted any evidence either, actually even included a bunch of easily disprovable lies in other parts of FAQ, so trust levels to whatever is there are low

>>107699376
She is the one defending against an allegation while being behind a permanent NDA, therefore she's innocent until proven guilty, which Phase Connect failed to prove so anything they write down can be dismissed.

>>107691573
ccpfish found lying again, shocking

Yuri is a loser

When the only vtubers who still call her friend are Pippa, Kirsche and Hexa, that should tell you the kind of person she is

>>107699465
Could be because Phase Connect slandered her.

Thank you pudgecat for clearing the air after 2 years that Phase never took your IP.
Why you decided to lie to indie vtubers about this fact for years? Who knows why. Couldn't be because it wasn't enough for you to have hurt your friends in there while you were a talent, so you decided to slander the company name to prevent people from joining it. Thankfully that didn't work and Phase has hired 20 new vtubers since you left.

>>107699517
>Thank you pudgecat for clearing the air after 2 years that Phase never took your IP.
She never said that, phase shill.

>>107699409
NDAs don’t prevent defending yourself from slander, and the only “allegation” is being terminated for breaches of contract. If she could disprove that in court she could earn money for wrongful termination easy, but she can’t

>>107699029
>t. demon

>>107695308
kiba is lucky only rie has a grudge and has spoken about her
tenma, lia, uruka, airi all are exponentially more well liked and respected in the industry than kiba, and if they wanted to destroy her by letting people know what she did to them, then they could do that. by why would they it is not healthy that is not who they are. they probably have not thought about her since 2023

>>107699532
>i have owned amaris yuri since 2021
>why now? i did not use the character because I wanted to start over and create nanobites/kibawoo to find myself as a creator
>i was always gonna bring amaris yuri back when i was ready. i was not ready then. i am ready now
paki anon your reading reps

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>all these posts in
>not a single person has blamed the real culprit behind everything who played both sides of the conflict for personal gain

>>107699547
That's not how it works unfortunately because she would have to show actual damages to succeed a risky lawsuit, which can be hard when it's mostly internet gossip she had to endure and yes, an NDA can forbid a ton in this industry, like any internal communications can be put behind an NDA.
Plus you have to keep in mind she's not exactly rich as Phase Connect didn't even help her by supplying a gaming pc and in fact phase connect was taking money from that donation goal too so it's very likely she wouldn't have the funds to legally challenge that anyway.

>>107699617
>i have owned amaris yuri since 2021
She said she created Amaris Yuri in 2021, retarded phase shill, not that she owned the character since 2021. Why do you lie?

retarded dramasisters

>yuri says she was not terminated
BELIEVE YURI! BELIEVE EVERYTHING SHE SAYS!
>yuri says she has always had amaris yuri and phase only owned fuura yuri, and that she could have been amaris yuri the entire time but elected not to
UUUHHH EXCEPT THIS. DONT BELIEVE THIS.

>>107699682
>yuri says she has always had amaris yuri and phase only owned fuura yuri, and that she could have been amaris yuri the entire time but elected not to
Except she never said that, Phasecuck.

>>107699681
>She said she created Amaris Yuri in 2021,
she did not even create Amaris Yuri. Amaris Yuri was created by Yunity. She is not even the first Amaris Yuri someone else was Amaris Yuri before her.

>>107699681
>>107699700
she wrote it. not my fault you refuse to accept it. be mad at her for ruining your narrative you have been shilling for 2 years.

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>>107699703
>>107699727
Fortunately I saved the tweet, makes it easier to dispel your lies.

>>107699789
she literally did not create the character amaris yuri. this is a matter of fact and she opens up her googledockey with a bold faced lie

>>107699816
Prove it.

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>>107699843
Amaris Yuri existed before CyberLive

>>107699892
what are the odds another vtuber created a minecraft account with the name amarisyuri in february 2021 and abandoned it in may 2021 when she got hired in another corpo?
amazing innit?!

>>107699892
It says 2021 so I'm not sure what am I supposed to be seeing here.

>>107699942
Lia was original Yuri before their first gen quit before debut. Yunity was shitshow and so was Cyberlife.

>>107700005
>cant read and follow kibas googledocky
>cant read and follow a screenshot with dates and proof about the history of amaris yuri existing before kiba was the pilot
skill issue

>>107700022
What if Yuri was the one who orchestrated Lietnam and that's why she got terminated?

>>107700068
maybe, but in reality, she ghosted everybody for a month before her contract expired.

>>107700065
It's a disjointed mess with little context and unfamiliar or censored names and you expect me to just make perfect sense of it?
Anyway, I don't see how that discredits what she said at all. She was defining the IP in 2021.

>>107700188
she never wrote defining.
she wrote created. she factually did not create amaris yuri.
concession accepted.

the amount of times kiba has made you look like a fool ITT is funny

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>>107700225
>she wrote created. she factually did not create amaris yuri.
Based on what? You still didn't explain what your screenshot is supposed to provide proof for.

>>107700278
not my problem you cant read and follow dates and timelines without them being drawn out in crayon

At the end of the day, she got what she deserved: she was left behind.

>phase
based
>fishman
heckin' based
that's literally the formula, if any phase girls hates fishman that's because the talent in question harbor evil intentions.

>>107700302
I don't see anything in there that would support your argument and if you don't want to explain the screenshot then I guess it will remain that way.

>>107700278
Just stop. It's embarrassing that you are trying this hard, Yuri's groomer mod. You are the one person itt trying extremely hard to twist the story into something it's not. Nobody here thinks what Yuri has said as the absolute truth besides you. Her statement is full of easily disproven lies and the truth is nobody wants to bother to sink to her level and correct her because no one wants to deal with her and she obviously is looking for the attention after all this time. Name me a better reason why she decided to come out with this after two years? Right around when Phase debuts another gen? What is her motive? She isn't even continuing to use the Yuri IP that much

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>>107699358
You don't have to take Phase's word for it, the talents also hate her guts. Tenma and Lymi are to professional to bring it back up but they depersoned her immediately, and Rie is still seething:
>You know what you did to hurt us and you were only ever sorry you got caught
Sounds like a contract breach and certainly a betrayal, to me.

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>>107700412
I'm not affiliated with Yuri in any way.
Also, as of now, I haven't seen anybody here disprove her "easily disproven lies".
I'm not saying that she's the absolute truth either but considering what is alleged against her I will take her side since still no real evidence against her defense has been produced.

> Name me a better reason why she decided to come out with this after two years?
She tried to explain herself as much as she could on this, it sounds to me like there was still things that had to be settled until she was able to use the IP again.

>>107691573
You were terminated Yuri, it's time to move on.

>>107691857
>Why didn't Phase dispute her narrative
because nobody cares so they have nothing to gain by it
>it's too late now most people are convinced Phase steals IPs
your echo chamber discord is not "most people"

>>107700509
Someone just disproved you with the yuri ip creation she talked about in her doc. You just refuse to listen to anything anyone else says besides Yuri. Keep arguing like a retard in bad faith.

No one else even bothers arguing with her and just proceeded to unperson her. Her "explanation" said nothing. You are taking a whiff of her fart as facts but discounting anything else anyone else says. What Yuri says is as believable as rrats you hear on the internet anon. The fact you take what she says so seriously is because you are either one of her groomer mods, someone with anti-corpo sentiment, or a phase anti. No point trying to tell you shit when your mind was made up and trying to twist it for Yuri

>>107691573
>nothingburger
Imagine all of this effort for her to be a 2view

>>107700649
I did listen but the screenshot didn't disprove anything. All your accusations are also pretty ironic since you argue in bad faith and try to protect Phase at all costs.
Her explanation did tell me that her termination was faked - obviously to open her to slander like you can see all over this thread.

>>107699358
>Eh, they could just be contractility forced to say this.

Contractually ESL bro? Contractually they would say "no comment" if they weren't allowed to talk about it.
Lying for a company is not enforceable on most western contracts, and its not smart for talent to do, it starts to dip into illegal activity. Any basic ass lawyer not to do that.

>>107700278
>Yunity was a small corpo who held auditions in Winter 2020
>the gen featured such vtubers as Amaris Yuri, Ayane Hylo,etc
>right before debut, the talents found out the company was being managed by the owners underage girlfriend
>having felt lied to, every talent quit
>Yunity tried to force the original girls to buy the IPs in order to recoup costs and threatened to sue, but the talents quit anyway and called their bluff
>Yunity was left with 5 vacant vtuber models and a damaged reputation
>they decided to go dark and rebrand the company as CyberLive, and held auditions to recast their Gen1 in May 2021.
are you still following?
>To prove it is the same company, you can see the star in the Yunity logo is the same star that is on the CyberLive mascot character
>the discord ss is from the Yuntiy server, with the names Yuri & Hylo unblurred to further prove that Yunity is the same company as Cyberlive and they recycled the IPs
>the vtuber rinkouashelia made a minecraft account named amarisyuri in Feb 2021, and changed the name to her current name after she quit Yunity and joined Phase Connect
>CyberLive debuts in July 2021, with such vtubers as Amaris Yuri, Ayane Hylo,etc
>later on in 2022, it was revealed by now Aetheria talents that CyberLive was run by an under age manager and that was a huge reason the company was so dysfunctional and failed, further confirming the 2021 rrats that Yunity and CyberLive were the same people
>rinkouashelia has also said on stream she got accepted to a very black company prior to Phase Connect, and her first minecraft username being amarisyuri confirms who she was supposed to be and what company it was for
>also her RM followed only a couple vtubers, notable a then 1view who was named Maria Paradisia (who was in PixelLink and supposed to be in Tsunderia & AkioAir but they closed before her debut). She is now known as Toffee, and she is confirmed to have been also been apart of the Yunity Gen1 that all quit pre-debut.

TLDR Yuri was created by some creep and his underage GF in the winter of 2020

Also kibawoo herself said she was not even supposed to be Yuri in CL, she was supposed to be another character that was orange, but got moved to Amaris Yuri

>>107700699
>you argue in bad faith and try to protect Phase at all costs.

Another baseless claim, is that all you do? Most of us just know Yuri for what she is, and the facts that are known, the opinion on Phase is irrelevant.

No, the better question is why are you adamant that Yuri is innocent, why are YOU arguing in bad faith about her.

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>>107700699
If her termination was "faked" by the company and she didn't break the contract nor betray her friends, how come they all dropped her like a sack of rocks, with Rie in particular burning her even to this day?
I mean, trusting the talents themselves this doesn't sound fake:

>>107700793
lia quitting cyberlive predebut to join gen1 phase connect is the vtuber equivalent of canceling your ticket on American Airlines Flight 11 and deciding to board a sketchy 4 seat cessna that ends up going to Hawaii instead

>>107700699
i see your strategy now. gas light, twist, lie, misdirect, shifting the burden of proof and feign ignorance when you can't gaslight or misdirect your way out of it. this is called bad faith anon. in reality phase has never said anything bad about yuri other than terminating her for her mistakes. and it was done in a way a thousand times more tamed than any other corpo out there in existence.

>the big "ah ha gotcha!" moment is that she willingly didn't re-sign with a corpo right before it took off. and since then she has been left in the dust and her former corpo continues to make history and make dreams come true
this makes her look like possibly one of the most retard girls in vtubing

>>107700793
So the actual debut of Amaris Yuri was in 2021, even if it was planned for somebody else in 2020. Nobody else created the characteristics and the stream contents other than the current owner of the IP so I do think what she wrote is fair. While you try to judge her for it you should also keep in mind that sometimes writing out the full truth is difficult, confusing and sometimes behind NDA or other considerations and there are many ways to view who actually "creates" a vtuber (concept artist, rigger, corpo planning, vtuber breathing life into the role etc)

The truth is that your focusing on this pretty much irrelevant aspect in her twitter post, which mostly serves to explain when she started to own and build on her IP. Nobody thinks she drew and rigged it herself and it doesn't really matter if somebody else was set to use it before she got it.


>>107700819
I just blasted your baseless accusation back at you, how do you feel about that?
>No, the better question is why are you adamant that Yuri is innocent
Innocent until proven guilty, I know, a hard concept for you.

>>107701103
Lol look over this thread and see how many lies about her were already debunked and how much Phase shills lie about her without any proof whatsoever and you call ME dishonest?

>>107692451
no proof
>>107693522
ran away after asking for proof
>>107694435
tried to larp as a lawyer and failed
>>107699517
Blatantly lied about what she said in her tweet

I could go on.

Starting to feel like this is Yuri debating with anons.

>>107701263
If she had said she created the characteristics of Amaris Yuri or made the character what it was, then she is correct. If that is what she meant, she should clarify because otherwise she is leading off her Q&A on the basis of a lie, and this throws into question the rest of what she had to say.

She factually did not create the character or IP Amaris Yuri.

You guys really need to learn when you're being trolled. They're intentionally presenting to make you think if you just try hard enough you can win or prove them wrong. You can't.

>>107701334
I can assure you that this small level of reductionism is perfectly normal in the minds of non-autistic people and it's no indication whatsoever that she's lying about anything.

What nobody ever talks about is the reason WHY Yuri/Kiba did not want to stay with Phase Connect

>>107701214
No the gotcha moment is that Phase Connect is apparently willing to slander talents that want to leave.

>>107701468
because she is not part of the clique

>>107700925
Also for context after this tweet Yuri went on deleting spree and run away from twitter

>>107701510
she was a card carrying member of it are you insane

>>107701468
kiba left phase in good standing.
she still has many great friends there.
some of her best friends, even.
they talk about her fondly and sometimes include her visualyl in company projects because she will always be apart of the history they are proud of

oh wait, that is saya

>>107701501
just like Saya, right?

>>107700925
If she actually broke the contract many times why didn't they do anything about it and just let her contract run out normally - just to announce a termination after she would have gone away anyway?

>>107701510
well this is how you know there is an active shit poster in the thread when you apply a recent formula to past events. Do you know anything before you shit post?

>>107701599
They tried a different approach with Saya since she was willing to allow the" Phase citizen" cope that they copied from Hololive.

>>107701625
Was the time window that close they chose that option though?

>>107701292
As funny as it would be, she's not this smart, and probably doesn't care. Its def one of her groomer/orbiters.

>>107701468
It is quite perplexing indeed. Why would she want to leave? This was Phase Connect when she decided not to re-sign
>Was best friends with Lia, Uruka, Airi, Tenma, Pippa, Hime
>like they literally let her visit their homes and vacationed with her
>she was included on paid for company trips
>8 months prior, she made the friendship bracelets for them and said "this is the greatest time of my life. These are the friends I wish I always had"
>the company was rising, with big things coming up
>that means more money, more opportunities, more dreams coming true for everybody
>Phase even let her run a fundraiser for a new PC when they didn't have to
>they let her keep her discord for her fans and her throne
>"this is like a family for me. my real family is toxic, but Phase is my family" - yuri in 2022

so why would she want to leave what she called her family she was so in love with only a few months earlier?
what did Phase do so wrong to her that they didnt do wrong for anybody else?
and why is she treated like a pariah by everybody, when other talents who left are still treated fondly and with respect?
and why 2 years later is someone who she once called a friend speaking out saying that she was remorseless and actively tried to hurt them?

it is almost like she did something way out of pocket and hurt the people she called her friends. strange to consider.

>>107701625
She's speaking as Amaris Yuri, not Fuura Yuri. Two different trademarks, two different contracts.

>>107701853
probably taking liberties with the best friend list.
i don't think hime and tenma were particularly close with her, either. friends? yes. best friends? i never got that from them.
she didn't become anything to pippa until after she was fired, when pippa felt bad for her. pippa is too forgiving and gives bad actors benefits of the doubt, as evident with her friendship with kirsche and political grifters

>>107701836
sounds like what a shitty groomer would do. Put his oshi in a mental spill just to be the first point of contact.

I don't have that image of a rabbit holding a clock.
Please imagine I posted it.

i had moved on from her long ago, but hime's roommate firing shots has made me curious and i am p sure she did something terrible and it isn't the "i dindu nuffin i just didn't want to renew is the only thing i did wrong i swear"

>>107692161
Because it reminds her of bad memories?

>>107701501
Try to stretch this more yuri. you are about to reach the sun with how far this is going.

>>107702703
So why did she then decide to make a whole doc about it after two years? If she had moved on, why bring all this back? Very interesting motives Yuri!!

>>107702766
Likely because she finally got her IP back after having to fight for it for 2 years.

>most of Shondo's gripe against Phase is that Yuri told her they stole her IP
>Shondo told all of her friends to never go there because they steal
>her best friend disobeys and signs with Phase, as Shondo's friend circle continues to shrink
>other liggers also sign with Phase, thus making people wonder why they would ignore what Shondo said they did to Yuri
>turns out Yuri was lying to Shondo all along
Shon got played like a puppet

>>107699214
You braindead imbecile. It's true because Yuri said so! What makes that different from what because Phase said so? From what other talents like Panko, Tenma, and Rie said so? You need to make it less obvious. Just because Yuri said something and what you said, they don't make it true. The hypocrisy in your logic is baffling and you need to get it checked.

>>107702766
Do you know that's what happened? Because that's not what Yuri said. She said she's owned it this whole time. What happened to believing everything Yuri had said bad-faith anon? Is it because it doesnt fit your narrative anymore?

>>107702900
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>>107691573
I also learned from this that Shondo's inside source in Phase lied to her about losing her IP. Kind of funny, huh? She accuses others of lying to damage her reputation, while at the same time going around to indies "warning" them about the IP theft she made up...

>>107702850
She contested the allegations and Phase Connect hasn't provided any evidence she actually did something wrong, therefore she's innocent until proven guilty.


>>107702900
>She said she's owned it this whole time.
I already debunked that lie earlier ITT.
>>107699789

>>107701468
>>107701853
nobody has ever asked her, and she will never give an answer

>>107702987
Phase didn't claim anything anon. Phase gave her the most amicable termination in the history of vtubing. Are you saying they should have ack companied the shit out of Yuri and list out her crimes 1 by 1? You are taking advantage of Phase's amicable way to deal with Yuri to shit on them for Yuri. What crazy logic.

>>107702987
What was debunked? It's clear Yuri didn't create the character.

>>107703143
A real professional company, like for example Hololive, mentions the particular contract breach relevant for the termination to not invite too much unnecessary speculations. Unlike Phase Connect who basically just invited everybody to rrat about her by alleging that she broke multiple rules but not naming a single one.
Also there was no need for a termination notice if her contract was up anyway. It was just an underhanded method for them to get back at her.

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>>107702766
She started advertising herself on the reactived Yuri account right before Phase announced their new gen, basically implying that she was going to be returning to Phase. Every afternoon when they did their daily teaser or leak, she would post at the same time and spam links to herself on 4chan to make it look good. After a while, for no reason publicly known, she went silent and then came out and defended herself with this Q&A and then also said she had no plans to actually use the Yuri IP.

For a year or so before that, she'd been making statements that it was all a misunderstanding and certain Phase girls were simply spreading misinformation, and every time she got BTFO. This Yuri revival was clearly vindictive and opportunistic, and she was trying to memoryhole both the lies she had been telling to other indies AND the understood ongoing feud between her and Phase (the latter being a major sticking point in modern discussions, we don't know what she did but it was clearly bad). For these purposes, it was executed completely wrong and she actually made it worse.

Yuri is very menhera and doesn't discriminate between good and bad attention. She loves to keep using her victimization by Sakana as a foot in the door, but also wants you to think she's a good girl and the beef with Sakana is fake and there are no hard feelings.

>>107703039
pretty sure her safe blanket answer would be "I just didn't like working in a corpo, ok?"

this of course does not explain
>why all of her best friends immediately disowned her
>the multiple contract breaches that had nothing to do with stealing money
>her hiding from being amaris yuri for 2 years because she was scared to use it because she knew it would put attention on what she did wrong
and her former friend ensuring more wrath because we got the first true hint of what she did. hime who would actually be in the know and wasn't just a random coworker like shiina or panko who yuri was not close with

combine that with how everybody reacted to saya leaving: she got her flowers, respetc, and will continue to live on in the company in art and highlight reels.

>>107703278
yuri could clarify what she did, why doesnt she? instead she plays wordgames
>i let my contract expire rather than agree to new terms so when they fired me i was technically unemployed so they didnt fire me
that is a massive red flag in and of itself, she keeps bringing this up to defend herself but NEVER says what she did to cause it

>>107703209
I debunked the lie that her tweet implies she was in control of her IP the entire time.
Talk about me being disingenuous again, lmao.

>>107703280
the beef was never with sakana.
the beef is yuri vs. uruka, airi, lia, rie, tenma
she is damn lucky most of those girls have moved on with their lives and they don't involve themselves with twitter drama, because they would fuck her shit up if they started talking and she knows it. if tenma, lia, uruka, airi started talking, a lot of people will start listening

>>107703335
She wanted to leave Phase Connect after her contract was over, that's not a red flag at all.

>>107703347
Rie does occasionally respond, although it seems like she was asked to stop.

>>107703399
rie responds, but it doesnt carry quite as much weight as them because people expect her to whereas if those others started talking, it would be very troublesome because they never talk about family business in certain terms

althought hell rie's 3rd level secret roommate with 300 followers fired a shot at yuri, and it has caused damage to yuri. so imagine if one of them decided on main to start talking?

>>107703384
>so what was the root cause of this conflict?
um actually technically it wasnt a conflict depending on how you define it so i cant answer that as there was none technically you understand
>ok but seriously what did you do?
um actually they terminated my employment after the contract expired and we did not negotiate a new one i did not take any action personally so this is unanswerable
>they said you did something
um um what is something they didnt say i did anything in particular and i didnt do anything in particular so we are agreed there is no discrepancy ok

wtf are you smoking that this is not a red flag, its wordplay dancing around what is actually being asked without specifically denying it

>>107703511
She was pretty clear imo but you also have to keep in mind that Phase put her under an permanent NDA so she can't speak candidly about the situation.

Uruka, Lia, Tenma, Airi, Rie would never on main because they have too much to lose. Even if Yuri did the worst thing ever and doxxed them, why bring attention to it?

Those girls are all moving forward not looking backward. The things they have accomplished and the places they have been since she left their lives is amazing. Why bring any attention to a dead issue for what reason? To prove a point? What point? So Phase's name potentially gets in the drama cycle? That is never good even if they are in the right and they could burry her further.

All it does is bring attention to her, which is what she wants and what she needs.

>>107703689
how is that clear?????? there is zero clarification of what the termination notice meant

>>107703810
Exactly. Yuri wants to bring attention to this even if it meant it's at her detriment. The whole thing makes very little sense considering the timing of it all and how two statements contradict one another so clearly. She wants Phase and the talents to react to her.

>>107703810
actually on second thought Hime would. she is the most immature of that bunch, and that is why her and Yuri are sniping each other. Both of them need to grow up.

You know what would have been impressive as hell from Yuri and shown the "growth and maturity" she claims she has gone thru? Is that when Rie fired her shots, she responded with something like "Hey, I made my mistakes and I will make more in the future. I am a human. who hasn't fucked up?" Instead she retweeted Rie's "HAHAHAHAHA" like a passive aggressive child, showing she is still the same old Yuri she always was.

>>107691573
not true

>>107691800
no

>>107691573
Why is OP so ESL? Every anti-phase thread is from an ESL retard.

>>107703825
She was pretty clear that they lied about it, what else do you need to know?

>>107704311
word against word is NEVER a good idea, especially not with your trashed reputation you fucking retard

>>107704341
If it's word against word the accuser without evidence, which in this case is Phase Connect, loses.

always funny to me how mutually not close lumi and yuri were despite them being forced as on screen relationship. they just never ever vibed

>>107704401
she claimed they are lying without providing any proof other than her authority, and in the process got caught in multiple lies herself so it's word of a company against the word of a known liar facing a hostile audience

>>107704458
Wrong. Phase Connect accused her with the termination notice without providing evidence. Her saying refuting that is merely defending herself from these baseless accusation.

>>107704401
>loses
loses what?
you are on an Vietnamese image board pretending this is a court case.

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>>107704521
she didnt refute it though and avoided giving any proof or details and even contradicted herself, she just gave an opposing story that didn't address anything and is clearly false

there is absolutely no way you believe her bullshit unless you are her, and i'm telling you this seriously that this is where you fucked up and even admitting what you did wrong would be a better look than this, and every time you bring this up and fail to justify yourself makes you look worse and worse in a way you cannot simply wait out

>>107704401
good thing retards like you aren't judges. Phase was very clear she breached contract. Phase is under no obligation to show YOU evidence. You are nobody. It is word against word at this point. Like Phase's, Yuri's are just claims made by herself without a shred of evidence while actions of the other talents show Yuri indeed did something wrong and that support Phase's statement. It was professional of Phase to leave Yuri's termination vague to preserve her reputation as hinted by multiple talents. The unprofessional thing to do here was to character assassinate Yuri on her way out. It just goes to show how Yuri and your retarded ass deserve no mercy and no show of good faith. You obviously feel the need to defend Yuri's honor for some fucked up reason but your bad faith arguments are too obvious. You need to try harder.

>>107704569
Phase Connect lying about a former employee to save face is a pretty big loss, if you ask me. Obviously if you would defend them regardless because you are a corpodrone then it might not mean as much to you.

>>107704602
>she didnt refute it though
She did, it's the OP image.
>and avoided giving any proof or details
Phase Connect put a permanent NDA on her.
>and even contradicted herself
Where?
>she just gave an opposing story that didn't address anything and is clearly false
Nothing indicates that it's clearly false beyond your corpo loyality.

>>107704615
>Phase was very clear she breached contract
Which is likely a lie to save face since a talent decided that she wanted to leave. If you remember Phaseshills back then loved to use the "Only corpo with no graduations!" slogan.

>Phase is under no obligation to show YOU evidence.
If they don't want to look like liars, they should.

>Like Phase's, Yuri's are just claims made by herself without a shred of evidence
Innocent until proven guilty. If Phase can't prove she did anything wrong, she's innocent and they only did it to slander her. It's pretty clear cut.

>while actions of the other talents show Yuri indeed did something wrong
Mob justice is not legal so the idea that other phase talents acting unprofessional and hostile towards her means she's guilty is just wrong. If anything they might have instigated Phase Connect to bury her with that fake termination notice.

Threads like this are funny. Remember how the Idol and Nijisanji terminations turned out when they made bullet point lists of contract violations? Being vague is definitely the better approach, though it can be a bit unsatisfying from an outsider perspective.

>>107704900
>is a pretty big loss
for what? to who?
what did they lose? fictitious anon approval rating poll points?

you have written paragraphs pretending like this is some court case. you live in your own reality and are mentally unwell.

For the newfags trying to understand what happened by threadreading
>Yuri did something in breach of the Phase contract
>whatever it was it caused the other Phase talents to cut ties with her in their personal lives and several still hold a grudge after all this time
>whatever it was it was also not bad enough to warrant an immediate termination and Sakana tried to work things out with her for months behind the scenes
>Yuri was unwilling to make whatever concessions were necessary to stay and as a result her now expired contract was not renewed and she was terminated
>Yuri then didn't use the IP for years and rrats flew in every direction about every aspect of the situation
>Yuri was mostly unpersoned by the Phase girls and they rarely ever mentioned her after the initial "if you guys knew what she did you would hate her" type comments
>NotYuri kept comments to a minimum due to NDA and only vagueposted about how "the rrats she sees online aren't true"
>everytime Yuri would vaguepost about anything Phase related Rie, on an alt account, would vaguepost about her hurting the Phase girls in response
>Yuri accounts reactivate after 2 years while Phase is announcing a new generation
>Yuri hypes her return up a bit while Phase continues hyping their new gen
>Yuri drops the Q&A where she claims to have owned the original Amaris Yuri IP the whole time and state that she left Phase because her contact expired
>Yuri says she's not streaming on the account yet because she's planning a move but wanted to let everyone know right away that she was going to come back
>Yuri is still streaming on her other IP and will apparently revive Yuri at some point down the line as a side ASMR channel
My understanding of the situation? Yuri did something that fucked with the other girls, Phase tried to mediate, mediation was not successful, continuation of the business relationship was deemed impossible so she got terminated and things were left vague to not paint anyone in a bad light. The Yuri IP was at that time still under Phase control, likely under some form of joint ownership, and in order to use it Yuri would have had to come to an agreement with Phase. After 2 years of every rrat under the sun Yuri reached out to Phase and they worked out an agreement where Phase relinquished their ownership of the IP where it relates to the original naming (Amaris Yuri) but retained their ownership of the new naming and new model that happened within Phase (Fuura Yuri). Yuri will continue streaming with her current IP as her main thing and pull out the Yuri IP for whatever RP or ASMR content she wants to use it for on the side. Phase didn't lie on the termination notice and Yuri didn't lie on the Q&A, it's just a whole bunch of doublespeak that while technically true on all fronts doesn't give you the full picture.
We will likely never know what she actually did to get terminated but it's probably something that doesn't really matter unless you were one of the Phase girls affected by it

>>107704925
Ideally they should only list the violation that actually led to the contract termination. What Phase Connect did is just inviting people to speculate about all the reasons the talent was terminated, which isn't much better than what Niji did. However it's even worse if you keep in mind that the she wasn't actually terminated and just let her contract end naturally.

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>>107704900
>Phase Connect put a permanent NDA on her.
1. not legal, literally impossible
2. no evidence of this
3. awfully convenient for her position
4. how is this relevant if you say she already refuted their claims? you're saying too much, since this implied she wants to refute it but can't legally, you contradicted yourself bringing this up
5. does not even remotely address all the circumstantial evidence, does not seem likely to be true even ignoring everything above
6. she fact she's lying about the nda leads me to doubt other things
7. all of documented lies being on her end makes phase appear more truthful, she is clearly hiding something and is clearly the kind of person to get terminated under those circumstances
8. leveraging their good faith vague notice that only helps her makes her look extremely malicious and worsens their relationship with everyone, i.e. it looks like they should have shit on her in great detail to avoid this situation, they were trying to be good guys and got punished for it, so that won't do that again and yuri is to blame

>>107705084
>Yuri did something in breach of the Phase contract
This isn't confirmed.
>Yuri was unwilling to make whatever concessions were necessary to stay and as a result her now expired contract was not renewed and she was terminated
It sounds more like she wanted to leave. She denies that she was terminated since she states that her contract naturally expired.
>Yuri drops the Q&A where she claims to have owned the original Amaris Yuri IP the whole time
She doesn't claim that. She only says she currently owns it.

For frame of reference, Idol's NDA with Pochi is already expired

>>107705292
>no breach was confirmed
It was confirmed by Phase Connect in an official statement. Multiple breaches in fact.

>>107705265
nta but you can definitely sign a permanent NDA and while it may not be legally enforceable breaking it will exclude you from business opportunities in the future as other companies will see that as you not respecting NDAs and a risk. Eg: A game company may decide to not give you early access because you're deemed a high risk for leaking info or a corpo may exclude you from a wider community event for the same reason

Yuri should have reincarnted but she's a coward at least Katana and Mumei told us they were sick and not coming back

>>107705337
she has already made the claim that she's unhireable due to the termination and claims phase not clarifying was a malicious attempt to ruin her reputation by introducing speculation about wrongdoing, so first of all she's actively making herself more radioactive and doesn't seem to mind and also claims it's literally over forever for real so why does she care about the nda?

>>107705087
They did list it but without providing further details on which the breaches were. You get fired if you breached contract. This already is sufficient for a company to terminate any relationship. You are just moving the goal post in bad faith. Yuri didn't do anything to further "prove" that she didn't do anything wrong either and just posted claims. Neither sides have gone to the next level of providing proof so it's very telling of you to try to twist this in the direction against the company. Again, try harder. You have yet come up with a "gotcha" moment like you think you have. All you are doing is show casing how flawed and hypocritical your arguments are, and obviously outing yourself.

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https://x.com/AmarisYuri/status/1992457016661655642/photo/1

this is not the statement of someone that is innocent and has not done some very wrong stuff. she knows what she did. her friends in phase know what she did.

she blames being 18 and having bad parents for her fuck ups as a vtuber. not holding herself acocuntable always someone elses fault.
she wasn't the only girl under 20 there, yet they were decent people who handled business

>>107705450
>hardly knew the first thing about being a public figure
public figure?....bruh do you think you are famous? the ego and delusions on this girl.

>>107705265
>1. not legal, literally impossible
Tell that to Phase Connect lmao.
>2. no evidence of this
Pic related
>3. awfully convenient for her position
I would say it's rather inconvenient for her that she can't use internal communications to defend herself.
>4. how is this relevant if you say she already refuted their claims?
She only needs her own words to refute their claims, after all, Phase Connect didn't show any evidence for their accusations.
>5. does not even remotely address all the circumstantial evidence, does not seem likely to be true even ignoring everything above
Like what? Some unprofessional former coworkers harassing her, also with no proof?
I mentioned just as much circumstantial evidence that Phase is likely lying about her termination.
>6. she fact she's lying about the nda leads me to doubt other things
Proof she's lying about the nda?
>7. all of documented lies being on her end makes phase appear more truthful, she is clearly hiding something and is clearly the kind of person to get terminated under those circumstances
Are these documented lies in the room with us right now?
>8 leveraging their good faith vague notice that only helps her makes her look extremely malicious
It's not in good faith to lie about terminating a talent when in fact, she was just letting her contract run out.

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>>107705495
>i agree it's not legal, but she's still required to follow it anyway
eh???
>pic related
ehhhhh???????

what is bro doing

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>>107705495
oops I forgot the pic.

>>107705310
They only alleged it. Phase Connect did not provide any proof of contractual breaches.

>>107705292
>This isn't confirmed.
You're very clearly brand new to the whole situation because Yuri has already admitted to it on stream and twitter, said she made mistakes but that they aren't what the rrats claim and that she has grown since then. She has said multiple times she understands why she got terminated and if she had to do it over again she would still decide to not try and work things out. Her breaching contract isn't up for debate when both sides agree to it happening
A Q&A that dodges the question doesn't retroactively remove all her past statements

>>107705590
Before I gut your argument; you know the drill, show proof of these past statements.

>>107705546
>My NDA contains certain things permanently
at worst, she is lying again. at best, she does not understand her own contract language (again)

>>107705590
There's so many instances of misdirection, ignoring points, and blatant lies that there's no way you are talking to a male. They're not even twisting the facts, they're twisting your arm to just magically forget things. This is Yuri herself or else one of the indies she tricked, and the double down on "you have no proof" of things we were personally present for, that she personally said to us in her own words, makes it clear they know they're wrong and are just trying to escape at this point.

>>107705450
Given the reaction of her friends and how she is trying to blame her parents and age for being a bad girl, I think it is fairly obvious she doxxed some of the talents.
Reminder she was literally sending things to other Phase talents houses during streams, which is insanely inappropriate and crossing a line. so she had all of their personal info of her friends that she visited

>>107705491
you say this while publicly attacking her, which you only do because she is a public figure (and because you care)

>>107705655
Or more likely, Phase puts some things behind a permanent NDA, just like she says they do.
I think it's kind of funny that you say I argue disingenuously when I can always back up what I say with screenshots and basic logic while you just throw random accusations into the room without any proof whatsoever.

>>107705704
yubi your average ccv is like 40, you are less than one tenth of a remilia nephys

>>107705635
Do your fucking reps retard, I'm not hunting down and spoonfeeding you 2 minute clips from over 3 years of unarchived twitch streams. You very clearly do not watch or care about her if this is your defence

>>107705495
Do you have proof she didn't break the contract? It's just her word against Phase... And her genmates.... And her old friends/collab partners that used to be very tight, but now, in their own words, feel "betrayed".

If you have any concrete evidence feel free to post it otherwise it's just her word against everyone else's, and guess who everyone believes? Hint, it's not the two view.

>>107705705
>secret service members have NDA expiry
>but an anime vtuber agency (with no trade secrets to protect) has a lifetime NDA to protect

>>107705716
> can't even respond in substance
lol, you got wrecked

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>>107705722
Ah... interesting argument, anon-chama, but unfortunately for you YOU'RE BRITISH so I win.

>>107705740
you are not a public figure, you are a niche /pcg/ figure with fewer views than random OC posted there

>>107705776
lol, no actual argument

>>107705722
So you just made it up? Alright.

>>107705726
1. Mob justice is illegal.
2. She's innocent until proven guilty.

>>107705740
Are you just trolling or is this specifically a targeted attempt to turn the board against Yuri before her redebut?

>>107705838
she said she isn't redebuting as yuri

>>107705838
you seem incredibly stupid, and possibly like you can't read

>>107705828
This is a civil matter not a criminal one you absolute retard. In what world would "innocent before being proven guilty" apply to a fucking business dispute. You're such an idiot holy shit, it's like I'm talking to a child.

>>107705905
She doesn't learn from her mistakes, so you're not far off. She is a severely mentally disabled pseudo-adult.

>>107705705
anon, you are the only person here who thinks your logic is sound and that you have shown proof. Your only "proof" is the account of the story from person in question. Get it through your head that you saying something is true, doesn't make it true. You are taking what a girl says to be the absolute truth. A girl who has shown to lie both in the past and in her FAQ statement. A girl that none of her past co-workers want anything to do with. A girl whose own statement contradicts her own actions. Yet you somehow either flat out ignore these obvious points or misdirect to something completely unrelated, or shifts the burden on to Phase or anyone else here who are not obligated to show you anything.

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so from what I have gathered in this thread
1. Phase Connect never stole Amaris Yuri, like /vt/ claimed them to have done for years
2. Yuri was not terminated, but she was kind of. But not really.
3. Yuri had never breached contract, despite her breaching Phase Connect's contract multiple times and that is up to Phase Connect to determine because it is their contract.
4. Yuri left on ok terms and mutually part ways, despite everybody there besides Pippa going from 0-100 mph from loving her to hating her guts
5. There are current talents there that was her friend that still has not forgiven her for hurting her and her friends
6. Yuri did something wrong and she did it because she was 18 and her parents were fighting all the time >>107705450
7. But Yuri says she didn't do anything wrong, and she just wanted to not renew because it wasn't for her. Yet when Saya didnt renew for the same reason, Saya was treated with love and respect unlike Yuri.
8. Yuri has signed an ironclad lifelong NDA that she will never be able to answer actual real questions about.

>>107705935
Yubi's retarded but she's not this retarded. It's some dyke or tranny who only just found out Yuri exists and is using it as an excuse to attack the mean scary chud corpo

>>107705905
The burden of proof is always on the accuser, sorry that this hurts your feelings.

>>107705980
Still no proof for anything you said.

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I'll just say this. I'm picking you apart because I want you to understand this isn't working and will never work. The only way to regain trust is to be humble and truthful and stay that way, not blow up all your progress every time you have a woman moment. I don't hate you. You saw lots of people get excited for your potential return and forgiveness. The path is there but you have to follow it yourself; we cannot help you.

You have to blame yourself, understand yourself, and fix yourself because it is not over and the future is still in front of you. Above all, you have to convince yourself others are not to blame, no matter how strongly you feel that way.

>>107706068
You should show proof first anon. And no, anything Yuri, the subject in discussion, says isn't proof either. Stop being hypocritical and choosing to side with Yuri if you want to have a fair discussion. By your logic, Phase's words are also absolute but you choose to ignore it all in favor of Yuri. So how about you show some proof beyond Yuri's self claim of being innocent instead of demanding it from others? Keep asking for proof doesn't magically grant you authority like you think it does imbecile

It is too bad that Kibawoo never took off that she has to resort to going back in time.
Nothing says you've moved on with your career and you just want to be happy doing your own thing like promoting the carcass of a dead model who's claim to fame is being fired in disgrace.
Although I am shocked she isn't giga coping by saying Amaris Yuri was never fired, it was actually Fuura Yuri.

>>107693302
Except Saya graduated normally, or at least that's how it appears. Which contradicts the "Phase hates graduators because it tarnishes their brand" rrat.

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>>107706455
saya's coming back... you'll see...

>>107691573
Nobody cares about Phase. They could murder any of their members on stream and people wouldn't even notice it.

>>107706415
I'm not a hypocrite, I would side with Phase too if Yuri made some sweeping allegations against them without having anything to back it up. But in reality she only defended herself by clarifying that it wasn't a real termination and that she finished her contract with Phase so unless Phase shows anything I am far more inclined to believe her.

>>107706455
It would have been Phase Connect's first graduation. At the time Phase shills were using that to promote Phase Connect on 4chan so they were likely more hostile that she dared to fuck that up for them.
They also made Saya go through with the Phase Citizen graduation cope to soften the blow.

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>>107706068
That's how it works in a criminal case you fucking child, but in a civil dispute it's he said she said, and it looks like it's 1 account versus, what, two outright and more if you count talents that depersoned her. Do I have to spell out what happens in a civil courtroom when one side has a single witness and the other has a lot more?
It's the same thing that happened to Yuri, she got absolutely fucked in the court of public opinion and everyone else moved on.

>>107697412
Why would Phase terminate her contract 1 week before it expired if Yuri had no intention of renewing her contract and forcing Phase to pay her severance? Phase really wanted to lose a few grand just to kick out Yuri a week early?

>>107706887
Someone should ask Yuri the date when her contract was expiring

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>>107703482
Hime posted this on her menhera venting alt, then Yuri retweeted it, now, you can go to, yuri twitter and the retweet is gone. She was clearly stalking Hime´s account looking for a reaction, like the retard she always been. someone have that webm where she left the stream open and started fingering herself and then cameback saying she was only """"laughing"""" out loud?

>>107692869
tldr?

Isn't there literally a clip of her "jokingly" saying that Sakana got tired of her shit and is firing her, that people posted after she left as a "we should have seen it coming"?

>>107706690
>but in a civil dispute it's he said she said
Embarrassing, stop larping as a lawyer already.

>>107702831
shondo being wrong?, nothing new under the sun, honestly, her saying the indie vtuber manager bf shit, was like saying, "water is wet", i dont think it counts

>>107707005
She wasn't stalking Hime's alt she was in /pcg/ while people were shitposting about it all. Everyone knew Hime would respond on that account, she always does

>>107707067
Yes
>>107695512

>>107706582
incorrect, antis create these threads with no provocation

>>107702970
nigger, what "inside source"? Shondo is friends with Phase, she doesn't need to have a "mole" when she can communicate directly with them. What sort of delusion is this?

>>107707119
>Everyone knew Hime would respond on that account
no, the fuck no, i was on those post like the unemployed pos that i am, i was the first on presenting those posts, hours after the creation of the thread, and then everyone started reacting there to the tweets and asking if that was hime, i clearly remember people talking about how Hime looked like. Besides, that retweet was before the thread creation. she WAS stalking

>>107700657
I don't watch her but last time I saw some numbers she was a low 3-view (200) on Twitch which is in the 1% of streamers.

>>107691573
Yuri is a lying bitch I'm glad she's gone forever

>>107695349
literally nothing happens with Phase and antis spam threads like this one. You're crazy stupid if you think the board defends Phase.

>>107707630
she averages about 103 viewers

>>107693037
>is it just unspoken that once you're out you're out?
Saya and Lia, still play FF14 together, Lia even mentioning her sometimes on stream, so is just her

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schrodinger's yubi: everything and nothing have been confirmed

>>107707679
I have never posted about Phase before and I have never seen somebody call out that Yuri wasn't actually terminated and it was most likely just Phase Connect sending haters after her for trying to leave.

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[Yuri News] https://x.com/kibawooo/status/2000692498419581090

Yuri doesnt follow any of her best Phase friends
All I need to know she is the same girl

>>107707627
>t. newfag thinking he has le secret knowledge
You probably don't even know what her 4 other alt accounts are used for kek. That's the one she always uses to respond to Yuri's posts and anyone who's been around longer than 6 months knows it

>>107708069
stop reading threads dumb bitch

>>107708236
She was here arguing, not just reading.

>>107707906
>I have never seen somebody call out that Yuri wasn't actually terminated
Because everyone who has ever watched Phase or Yuri knows she was terminated and the Q&A used doublespeak to dodge the question. Even the threadreading Phase antis know this, it's almost impressive how retarded you have to be to make this thread

>>107708310
No she was pretty clear that it naturally expired.

>>107708352
Uruka's contract expired months ago and she wasn't terminated.

>>107708398
How does that matter? You can't terminate a contract that expired.

>>107708455
Yuri said it naturally terminated. Her words.

>>107708455
There was no termination notice and she still works there and gets paid. They are not obligated to "terminate" someone just because they don't have an active contract or change their relationship in any way. The explanation that they just *had* to let Yuri go because her contract expired holds no way. They made a special exception for her and terminated their relationship no matter how you try to weasel out of it.

>>107695376
>Yuri has fucked over everyone in her life dude
According to whom?

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>uuuuuu i am so sick of conflict uwu
>if only the world could just be happy and free...
>IMMEDIATELY RETURNS TO THE THREAD TO ARGUE SOME MORE

>>107708596
Rie please she has suffered enough. Better use your energy to fucking stream.

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>>107708680
SUFFER LEPR

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>>107708492
She did but she corrected herself.

>>107701468
Being forced into timeslots

>>107701468
There were some concessions required in order to be allowed to resign due to whatever she did wrong and she wasn't willing to accept them
Now whether that was some financial penalty, restriction on content or the way she interacts with people or having to naked dogeza to Rie who knows but either way she said she stands by the decision she made

>>107708511
I didn't say they were obligated to terminate her. In fact they didn't even have to say anything at all. You still cannot terminate a contract that expired naturally.

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>>107708069
did she want people to be happy when she was going out of her way to hurt her friends?

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yuri cant even stay out of /vt/ for a full hour despite claiming to hate conflict, so i have given up on her please kill yourself asap

>>107709049
where does yuri stand with theses girls as we head into 2026? i would like to hear her thoughts and appraisal of these friendships there is no permanent NDA that stops you from talking about people you considered your best friends