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vtubing is fake and shit like this 100% proves it.

if you are starting from nothing and want to become a vtuber, you are competing with people who have everything and can just randomly pivot into this career.

it's no different from a celebrity going from sports to acting, or music to starting a business.

They leverage the fact that they have unfair advantages, they know they can get away with it and you won't do shit.

this is a real existential threat to content creation, it shows beyond any doubt or uncertainty that all platforms and all avenues for individualism are controlled under a severe power imbalance

remember when Ludwig experimented to see if he could start his own brand without telling anyone? he did this twice, once he saw success and once he failed, but he convinced his audience in both cases that this was "organic" and that the only thing that mattered was luck of the algorithm

the entire 2020s has been a lie. algorithms barely matter, it's talent agencies, bot farms and tabloid-tier nonsense that drives growth as a creator. all of which you are literally locked out of if you aren't part of the club

it's not just vtubers, it's everyone. "trends" no longer exist. "virality" is a closed system. everything you watch on the internet that isn't entirely self-produced is just an arm of a larger shadow organization designed to pigeonhole you into a specific demographic so that you can be fed a constant stream of what another person thinks you would enjoy.

it's the same mechanism by which tv was able to display thousands upon thousands of ads to people and make them think they were just an obstacle on the way to entertainment. no, the tv is how the advertising executives corrupt your mind ads, the channels don't matter because you can watch whatever and still be shown products and services for things you literally did not want or need until the ad appeared.

vtubing was arguably never grassroots to begin with but in its current form it is actively hostile and there are a lot of bad people turning it into a very cynical and exploitative market. it honestly makes me ashamed to have ever liked anime at all, to see it being reduced to just abstractions for someone to try and sell me things. and everyone is totally okay with this because like i already said no one will ever try to change the industry.
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>not reading that but her intro video was funny and I subbed.
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>>107736949
>an arm of a larger shadow organization designed to pigeonhole you into a specific demographic so that you can be fed a constant stream of what another person thinks you would enjoy
But that's specifically why I loved Hololive, I want that. not to reject it
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bro 15 million subs to 235k is a terrible conversion rate.
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>>107737036
Funnily enough it's actually worse than Saba's when she went from like 4.3m to 1.2m between channels
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>>107736949
go back to /asp/
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>>107736949
Why

Are

Typing

Like

That
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>once you become rich and famous you can do whatever you want
thats not the vtubing industry thats just how the world works
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>>107737098
I was surprised when looking into it that at one point Nimi had ~60% conversion rate from Fauna. Goes to show that the further from 2020 you debuted, the less your sub count is a covid mirage.
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It's Not Fair.

It's Not Fair.

It's Not Fair.

I was Born Brown and Poor.

It's Not Fair.
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>>107736949
ok
i just watch streams
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>>107736949
>you are competing with people who have everything and can just randomly pivot into this career
So you also hold this opinion of Gura/Kiara/Mori/Kronii/ERB/Pekora/Miko/Polka/Towa/Hololive in general for being exactly that right?
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Bro knows nothing about life. Grow up buddy
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>>107736949
If deciding pouring all your time into being on online personality is your main goal in life you are already an insufferable person and your personality is just a mix of superficial thoughts and words.
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>>107738260
>online personality is your main goal in life you are already an insufferable person
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>>107736949
>it honestly makes me ashamed to have ever liked anime at all
Anon, don't blame the anime industry for corruption in vtubing.

It's an entirely different industry.
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>>107736949
No one tell OP about how every 'self made' billionaire like the Oculus guy who became rich at 23 is actually the son of glowies and the personal boytoy of Peter Thiel and basically no one has ever become rich at a young age without immense outside help either from family or connexions.
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>>107736949
Have you tried not being poor?
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>>107738374
I think yagoo and his first batch of girls were legitimately just lucky
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Uh oh, phase melty
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>>107737126
it's not a word is a sentence newfaggot
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>>107738499
Yagoo is literally like 53, he had decades to build connections before he got to make his tech company that pivoted into livestreaming, he is literally the proof that you can't just "come from nothing" because he had to suck dick in his 20s, 30s and 40s before finally calling in some favors and becoming successful.
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>>107736949
Whatever, seething 2view.
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>>107738499
hololive and niji's success is entirely due to youtube randomly recommending their videos to dudes who like anime.
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>>107736949
vtubers has and will never be anime. it is just a fan community like the doujin artist circles.
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>>107738644
>pivoted into livestreaming
and you can thank bizarre and autistic set of girls for that endeavor
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>>107736949
>so that you can be fed a constant stream of what another person thinks you would enjoy.
Oh no, whatever would I do when I get fed content I like and can just stop watching at any point if I don't
The horror
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>>107738686
Youtube recommends random 2 views all the time the second you watch any vtubers there consistently. They push them real fucking hard and that doesn't really make them stop being 2 views
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>>107737166
She also purposely stirred up drama so she could have the most efficient channel switch.
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>>107736949
People just wanna feel good these days, retard. People pretending to be anime waifus and just playing games and watching anime provide this service, so people will latch on. Stop overthinking every single little thing, every little faux pas that your wokescold fleshtuber commits and just relax and watch someone with a cute voice and a cute anime model blunder her way through an oldskool vidya. That's how easy this hobby is.

If you just wanna watch some 40 year old, big-nosed kikes dominate some third-rate fps, that's fine as well, but don't go telling us that we inferior cos we like our entertainer to look and sound like a cute anime girl, you cockjuggling thundercunt.

We all in this streaming horseshit together, but you think you on a moral highground cos you think you asexual or you transitioned and can't ever reach an orgasm ever again? GTFO, you absolute mongoloid. Sex sells and none of this obnoxious, performative virtue signaling from both of you retarded wokescolds or ultra-christians will ever amount to anything.
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>vtuber = career
what a depressing way of looking at things
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>>107739174
maybe /vt/ isn't so bad
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>>107736949
>vtubing is fake and shit like this 100% proves it.
Obviously. They're virtual.
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>>107736949
>if you are starting from nothing and want to become a vtuber, you are competing with people who have everything and can just randomly pivot into this career.
we've known this since day 1 gura bro
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>>107737166
>what is difference in level of activity?
>what is the temporal accumulation of the passage of time?
Retard.
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>>107736949
I'm sorry I'm very out of the loop. Who is this? And are you complaining about a successful content creator making a new channel? Because that's pretty standard. Pretty much every successful content creator starts making secondary channels to do something different from their main channel.
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>>107737036
Is it? The people on JaidenAnimations likely have no fucking clue that she's a croc now.
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>>107740315
Her sub count compared to the other Beastiez says otherwise
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It worked for CookieSwirlC.
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>>107736949
I mean, this is sort of true, but people know this person from her animations, not as a streamer. People are subbed because they're curious, but once that dies down, the views will go down so she'll have to still put effort into actually remaining consistent and growing. Even back in her old persona it didn't seem like she had the ability to actually stream consistently because she was busy with her main channel.
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>>107736949
didn't read shart
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>>107739174
okay, coomer.
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>>107737036
Is it tho?
Considering the money you make from being an animator on youtube...
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>>107741990
Get off the SSRIs for a few years and your dick will start working again, I promise.
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>>107736949
I won't say you're the dumbest poster on the board, but you're right up there in the running. Type less and say more, asshole.
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>>107742112
the problem isn't in your dick, it's in your mind.
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>>107737098
Are you bad at math or something schizo?
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OP, you are only a few steps away from the truth

It's much bigger than vtubers

Be careful who you talk to, or they'll silence you
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>>107744802
selfpost
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>>107744242
>or something schizo?
Literally what is schizo about my post you defensive retard
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>>107745213
he's making fun of him
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>>107736949
Truth
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>>107736981
BASED AS FUCK
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>>107736949
>popular person stays popular even when they start a new project.
>REEEEEE, EVERYTHING IS FAKE! WHY MY LITERALLY WHO ASS IS NOT GETTING GAZILLIONS OF VIEWERS LIKE THIS FAMOUS AND LIKED PERSON!!!

Instead of crying just keep grinding. Maybe in 10 years or so you'll also be like her. But you don't want to wait, you want results without work.



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