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https://x.com/amanekanatach/status/2002763262778368431#ぺこかなiroriotaso
Don't worry guys, Kanata will come back to Hololive as soon as Cover gets rid of all the problems that made her want to leave. Just gotta wait until that happen.
>>107875112We have time until Kanata is 80yrs old.
>>107875112All the heimin will be in their coffins by the time that happens
>>107875131By that point obaasan vtubing will be the norm so it's a possibility.
taso shuriken captcha
>>107875513I got that one, too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOqHP4AIK_IMy favorite Yanagi NagiThere's no rain that never ends bros.
Wtf does that mean ? Does is physically damage her to be in Hololive, or is her health so shit she can't do her work properly ? Or both ? Is it what she means ?The inner workings of taso are a mistery. Even for a woman.
>>107875513>>107875608just realized what this could mean or implyafter dec 27th, you will be reminded of her every time you get that captcha
AZKi really went all out today. Even with the LINE assist, too.
>>107875661Makes me even less hopeful that we'll ever see her again. Not that I had any to begin with.>>107875672Implying I'll ever use 4chan after the 27th.
>>107875672i'm sticking to tower and maybe my other favorite holo general from here (but maybe not)
The cope stopped working
>>107875661The health part is covered by the overwork stuff.
>>107875697>>107875741i've been stuck here since 2012
>>107875800Azki is increasing my copium.
>>107875800My cope is harder than steel. Kanata would literally have to die for me to lose hope.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6onKS7XTLsalmost 3 years ago of her last duolingo
https://x.com/AZKi_VDiVA/status/2002724954136358939#かなあず
>>107875897Az is probably the holo best equipped to keep Taso in contact. She's a lot more proactive than I initially thought
>>107875112Corpos dont change for anything but profit.
>>107875971https://x.com/circle20_0275/status/2002705858791374960
>>107875971https://x.com/yanaginagi/status/2002722584287437114
>>107875661>while I still couldShe was diagnosed with terminal stage cancer earlier this year.She will undergo a surgery with very high fatality rate sometime next year.That's why she considered a hiatus and prepared a possibility of returning if things improve (so she can return if her surgery succeeds).The same thing nearly happened to Lamy 2-3 years ago when she took a health break and later revealed that she considered graduating had her health condition was more severe than it turns out to be.That's why she cried at mengen when she talked about unfulfilled dreams.
>>107876014azki is kind of crazyshe runs her own brand and does shows all the time while also being super active in hololivethen she stays in contact with all of these different people enough that she can just call them and they will show up
>>107876130that's why AZKi was scored the highest by managers amongst the other zerokisei.she's the perfect everything, a good-for-all woman.
One of the most interesting parts of the Pekora talk was when she asked about the talent relations part and Kanata's answer:>仕事だけは割り切って出来たらいいなって思ったけど、出来なかったり、周りの人が巻き込まれてしまう事が数年あったのが、辛かったI think relatively recently, like this year, Kanata also talked about this type of thing too. Like some people being able to put aside personal issues for the sake of work and others not
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfYhgY2npc4
last taso sunday is done....
imagine if she leaves a frame for her birthday next year in the channel to check the comments...
I'm still conflicted. I don't feel like ever looking at anything hololive related after the graduation, but I also want to keep a close watch on everybody who might make the slightest mention of how taso is doing and whether she's been keeping in touch. I guess I'll just have to keep a watch on clips and other heimin.
>>107877491My choice is to never spent another dollar on cover related goods unless we get the one in a million odds of Taso coming back.If they have financial incentive to do so, then they're more liekly to work towards it.
6 days
>>107877491I'm just gonna continue watching whoever I watched besides taso, which apparently isn't much. I feel like I barely even had time to watch Kanata this year but youtube recap says she's my #1 most watched.
>>107877847That much is a given. What I mean is I want hololive out of my mind as much as possible. I still like many holos and hope nothing but the best for them, but thinking about hololive is just going to make me depressed from now on.
After all these talking collabs, I'm basically out of copium. She really seems to have her mind set and unflinching. Even a reincarnation seems incredibly unlikely.
>>107878022Do you have any recs for jp vtubers? I'm trying to cope as hard as I can but no one I ever watched clicked as much as taso. Maybe someone who's an otaku and actually knows her stuff. No one can replace taso for me but I don't know my mind is a mess I feel like I can't even survive next year if I don't find someone. I tried watching Mint and I do like her but I still prefer listening to japanese, also she doesn't do much zatsudan. So yeah if someone, indie or whatever, does a lot of zatsudan, doesn't necessarily game and just goes full otaku mode about things she likes (+ being a real shut-in and inkya is a must) then please rec me. Thanks a lot.
>>107875898I wish I could think the same. The final collab with Azki, and all the collabs before have just been more nails in the coffin for me. Like, "I achieved one of my dreams from debut, if I could never reach those heights again, then there's no reason for me to try." that's the feeling I'm getting. It's why I can't see her even making an account after graduation to post on. She would feel her image degraded to some girl who eats nakau every day, instead of the idol she went out as. We're probably only going to hear about her in stories from her friends from now on. I hope I'm wrong, but my cope is dead.
>>107875898dont say things that might actually happen
>>107878777>>107878433https://x.com/kei27822215/status/2002631264487297513here's something to huffThe aesthetic is critically important to her.And with that in mind, just go listen to the most recent mengen and the lyrics of the songs she picked for the part she was going to stream.Amane Kanata may be gone, and if Cover doesn't improve, she will be gone forever. But she's never said she WILL NOT reincarnate, just that there's no plans and not to look for her.There's absolutely no reason to look for her, because if she revives she will just contact a dragon and ask them to casually mention it.
Taso knows the name of Japan's ministers and watches the news.This can't be real.I barely know who the president is.My oshi can't be a normie.
>>107878494Eh, dunno about zatsudan-heavy chuubas because I mostly watch ones who focus on long playthroughs. I guess the closest otaku-adjacent one I watch sometimes is Salome.>>107875513Oh shit I got one too.
>>107876107I didn't know the devil was visiting this site in person.
>>107876386Luna..
>>107879312If my cope was strong enough to pick out lyrics that she sung from a guerilla mengen and interpret that as a message, then I don't think it would have broken in the first place.
>>107878433Me too. I'm dead inside. Like before I found Holo. I lost my way. Had none before, don't have any again. Hololive is dead.
just remember to tweet often how miserable your day was and the one thing that kept you going in gone.
>>107880350>>107880003>>107878777>>107878433spend all your effort on twitter, guilt trip her into compliancethere's no point holding back when she's retarded
>>107881906This. She is underestimating heimin if she thinks we're fine with her disappearing forever just because she thinks she's given it her all already.I'd even watch your monthly vlogs on what you've eaten recently, fucking anything.
>>107882000Luckily almost everyone is on the same page, there's still some stragglers on the aesthetics train and some freaking out a certain comment about work relations today but they're largely unified in just never letting go and letting her know that they aren't going to.
How's the Japanese economy doing? Realistically, can someone afford to live alone in a city off of entry-level part time work? I guess maybe Japanese rents and cost of living isn't as fucked as it is over here?
>>107882559>How's the Japanese economy doing?Relatively poorly, though it's still leagues above 80% of the world. But she has some savings and is moving to a smaller place anyway. I wouldn't worry honestly, she's not that stupid, and has friends that could help if things ever got dire.
The more I try to rationalize her ideal idol aesthetics the more frustrated I get.90% of pro idols who graduate stay in entertainment in some form and the 10% who don't are the ones who want to build a family or have another dream job to aim towards. No one is voluntarily choosing wageslaving as kombini clerk.
>>107882802>and has friends that could help if things ever got direBetter believe that those friends would literally chase her down and force her to be helped, because if I know her, she'd rather cut them off and live on the streets than have to depend on them that hard.
>>107882860Taso will become the 0.1%
she consistently lied to everyone's face when it came to not graduating when she had already decided to or never leaving until she's 80 so i don't trust a single word she says when it comes to not coming back.
>>107882860>90% of pro idols who graduate stay in entertainment in some formif by entertainment you mean entertaining clients as a waiter in the nearest izakaya, sure
why was she holding her head during the azki collab? problem with the ear monitor?
>>107882860I'm sticking with telling her idol aesthetic literally doesn't count if you left major items on your wishlist and if you have your first stream post-announcing saying "I'm not done yet at all!".She left her profile looking like this, so she's stuck with me until the いつか-したい becomes 昨日-しましたThis is her fault.
> Eat my plate> Meat rubbery af (cause of not eating anything so it seats drying in my fridge for days)> take toothpick from desk> toothpick too large> try to sharpen it with knife (I do this with all my toothpick and recommend)> knife dull af> take butcher knife from the drawer> sharpen> the voices in my head telling me to end it nowI managed to put it back but now my left knuckles hurt... Skin came off, I guess that's why you don't punch with your off hand. My right one is mostly fine (just with lots of red spots on the edge), but just one punch in the wall from the left one... I also threw a bunch of bottles and my glasses accross, the room, took a shower, and now I'm mostly calmed.Now I understand why taso didn't want to squeeze Lamy's with her left hand.Earlier I wanted to slap Taso and do things on Cover's HQ. I suppose I'm in the anger phase now.
https://www.holoplus.com/app/threads/dff1c7b9-223f-4f3b-8675-923541ad06b9#AmaneKanata #TokoyamiTowa #holoplus
If I start backing up her vods now I think I still won't manage with youtube's rate limits... to be fair I am fine with just 480p
On a completely different topic, I'm kind of worried about her graduation live now, with the studio leak and all.
So the Pekora stream basically re-confirmed that there was at least one person who didn't cooperate with working with Kanata, while Kanata wanted to be able to work at a professional capacity with. And that went over for many years and affected other people too. That kind of really narrows things down so I'm surprised they talked about it
>>107886818my twitter feed is hellbent on watame
>>107886818That's what today's heimin freakout on twitter is mostly about.
>>107886818Kanata had already said that in her announcement stream, it's not really news. The nip boards were all over it, but it doesn't really do much since already all they do is post rrats about cliques, favoritism and bullying to begin with. Kanata having a troubled relationship with one member is not exactly surprising or juicy. I guess the only surprise is that Kanata felt the need to say it before leaving.
>>107886818Another member, or management?
>>107886947since we're talking about stuff that's really unpleasant to begin with, there's also a number of previously completely-normal and calm heimin who posted about the party group today
>>107886944I get why they'd say that because of the lack of gen 4 stuff but it also feels weird because I have no idea why Watame would have issue with Kanata. Can't always know what's going on behind the scenes though.
>>107887029Pekora specifically asked about タレント, so it's talents
>>107887050how retarded does one have to be to believe that bullshit when pretty much everyone in the "party" group has spoken about taso's graduation regrettably at the least and actively collabing with her and wishing her a happy farewell at the most. the only one i can think of who doesn't seem to have much to say is miko and i have a hard time believing she'd have any kind of beef with taso.
>>107887050The "party" group (Miko, Fubuki, Suisei, Okayu, etc) makes very little sense considering Kanata's been pretty openly friendly with then and they have reciprocated, which goes against what's she said.At most you could argue it's Suisei, but Taso and Sui have a very complicated relationship separate from the "party" group, so it doesn't make sense to group them in for no reason
>>107887114I think the issue is most people don't pay enough attention to know much about it, in either the right or wrong, but its become unavoidable in the TL so they start to wonder about it.And you're right, a lot of it is incredibly flimsy from an outside perspective.People will write all manner of bullshit to explain why this one or that one is actually evil, and that they still collab publicly on occasion to maintain the outward image.
>>107887217Suisei pretty much took all the blame for it during her mengen too and emphasized how much of a good friend Taso was to her, and also throughout the years she's been the one who has tried to reach out the most (her totsu, holoGTA) and also Taso has uploaded several shorts of herself singing Suisei's songs. Their friendship got strained but they don't seem to be resentful towards each other
>>107887080if it is a talent and it's not someone who is perceived as close to her, then it can only be one of the talents she shares her manager with
>>107887294Yes, I don't think it's Sui either. Even during the strained period when before they reconciled, both parties were still cordial when they were in the same space. I don't personally think Sui's the type that would not be able to put up a professional front and refuse to cooperate.Honestly, it might not we someone we are able to tell on surface level from stream and it may not even just be one person
>>107887373retard
>>107887431you are, yes
>>107887242And just to finish that thought, most of the explanations come down to completely schizo shit, like Fubuki or Miko having a vendetta against taso. There's no way to even address it without going schizo, since the basic presumption is the person still collabs with Kanata just to hide the reality of it. Like a worse-than Mean Girls situation where they bring a person that they hate to a party with them and then leave them with a drunk jock and lock them in the basement.I know it was almost certainly brought up intentionally, and that both Pekora and Kanata likely agreed to bring it up, but... it's left something rotten behind that won't be cast off easily.I'm gonna drop the subject now since its just bad and its got antis crawling all over it like cockroaches, trying any way they can to make it stick.The Watame stuff is much less schizo. Maybe it's just that.
>>107887373Luna or Su? No, that's literally impossible for obvious reasons
>>107887373You don't deserve a serious reply, but since it's so easy, your post only leaves Su as a option, and Kanata said it's something that comes from years ago, so your logic implies literally nobody fits the bill.
>>107887420That's also why it's pointless to speculate. Only other talents like Pekora seem to have an inkling on what Kanata was talking about.
>>107887490then it can only be someone who is perceived as close to her. it would make zero sense to be someone who is completely unrelated otherwise. this is not rocket science.
through process of elimination its obvious.
>>107887626No, I think the logical deduction is that it would be someone who is NOT perceived as close to her.Kanata says that she herself is able to put aside personal emotions and still act professionally/cordially for the job. The other talent(s) in question is said to be unable to do so. So by that reasoning, you should expect the other talent to have a hard time appearing cordial with her or just outright not appear on most things with her to avoid interaction
>>107887757if she doesnt share the same manager or any sort of higher manager with the girl, there is literally zero need for continuous professional interactions over a long period of time with her
Am I mistaken or did Kanata not cite burn out as one of the main reasons of graduating? Like she was just exhausted of trying to get the company to change, she knows it's hopeless, and she got tired of trying.
>>107887891You're correct, she specifically denied burnout. I would add that she said she believed it would be impossible to go on if the company didn't change because of her mental and physical health. It's not as if she just said "I'm done with this bullshit" even though it partly is.
>>107887757could be Festival? she's menhera too.this is all pointing fingers, no one here will know anyway.
i blame kanatasochan
>>107876386;o;
>>107887974top 3 menhera are rushia, chama and matsuri. place your bets
>>107887974Every time Matsuri is brought up, Kanata always spend a good amount of time talking about how grateful she is that Matsuri treated her to an expensive meal when she was dirt poor, that she'd never forget that in her life, and just generally how nice she is. She literally talked about it again recently. That's not the tone you would talk about someone you have a strained relationship with.Like you said, no need to point any fingers here. Especially when Taso's words herself contradict it
>vaguepost>make heimin start clashing and pointig fingers>graduateWhat's her plan here
>>107889058she wants us to keep fingering each other. it's a lesbian thing
>>107889058Sometimes I think she does have a masterplan, sometimes I think she's just not thinking straight anymore. Regardless, like I said before, she already mentioned the strained relationship with a holo during the graduation announcement, so I don't know why this would get any traction now.
>>107889058She's bottling up multiple things over the years that she can't say due to NDA. I don't know who she can talk to, but she needs an outlet. Maybe she's legally allowed to vent to Sayuri after graduation.All I am sure of is that unboxing the can of worms reveals that graduating is best for her physical and mental well-being.
>>107889206People were too busy being shocked with initial announcement, I guess.
holobitches claim another soul
>>107889278you do not fit in
>>107889338I'm gonna loosen you, don't worry
Let's be honest here there's 70 women in that company you know how it is, these bitches probably have bad blood all the time. It's honestly amazing that more yabs don't come out of this fact.
>>107889499DEKAI
>>107889499>>107889544Ever since Kanacoco broke up, there hasn't been that many Kanacock images it feels like
>>107889604It depends on the artist. Laika is one that pops up at the moment.
>>107889206>I think she does have a masterplanShe does. All of that time wasted on 5ch and matome sites can't possibly be for nothing. There is no shot she didn't know her graduation stream wouldn't put Suisei, Miko, Fubuki, Mio, etc. under scrutiny. At least she didn't go all in and still have totsu stream so that anyone can clear their name with a single call
>>107889679where the fuck do you retards come from
>>107889679makes sense. let's see what she does next
>>107889679>can't possibly be for nothingBut it can. That's why it's a mental illness.
>>107889058I think she wants people to understand her situation more and more. It's just difficult to tiptoe the line. Rather than trying to guess who it might be, the important part is that it was one of the issues that pushed her to breaking.
https://x.com/kanzakihiro/status/2002740250410696848remix by hime's papa
>>107889984This. I think the answer to "why did she say this" is always "that's how much she could get away with saying." The way she talked about being completely sure she didn't cross any lines means she's spent the time to know exactly where the lines are, probably because she wanted to say as much as she could without getting sacked or sued.
>>107889790Pretty typical for a deflecting party to blame the victim.
It's still circulating quite a bit, so if you do see people tweeting about, just have a very quick look back to August in their Media tab to see if there's pictures of the sololive.If you don't see pictures of them at the sololive or watching it, just block and mute them.There's some real fans bothered by it right now since its their first time seeing that shit, but other heimin are generally DMing them or replying to them about it if they see it to try and fill in some blanks.
>please PLEASE pay it no mind and borrow your head in the sand instead of paying attention to obvious hints
>>107890458you have an entire catalog to spill your diarrhea and you still can't fuck off from here?
>>107886818> Dance rehearsal> Ayame, Choco, Okayu, Luna and Watame speak as if they're barely out of bed (they are)> Aqua : *mumbles*> Hajime : speaks in her own language> Taso can't hear shit they're saying> Too inkya to ask to repeat> They didn't realise she didn't hearMy heacanon
https://x.com/amanekanatach/status/2002897834962764070do your best tasowonder if she can make the mengen today
>>107890769You should kill yourself
>>107890769nice pic
Man azki is an evil mastermind. With this collab she's got so much emotional leverage over Kanata that she's never going to be able to escape her grasp.
>>107890956can't get back at sui so she's taking it out on taso
>>107890956hot
>>107890956an experienced oneesan like azki knows how to handle a virgin like kanatan
https://x.com/kikiraravivi/status/2002742590358372511Pekora was right, taso's LINE has already lost its SSR status at this point.
>>107890956If Kanata is able to, and wants to keep singing, AZKi has the connections outside Hololive to help her out the most
>>107890566I don't visit catalog, anyone with ears and a brain can put 2 and 2 together. Do we need to make it another HnK debate where you ignore the obvious signs until it is directly confirmed by the source?
>>107891178next up should be taso's DT card, as every honorable holo forces themself onto her
>>107891292That's just the meme with polka's signboards and everyone ganging up on her
>>107891197I don't think Kanata would want Azki to help that much.
>>107891272i didn't even know you were talking about hnk, you now lost the credibility you didn't even have.
>>107891471He said>another HnK debateI think he was trying to say that it was a similar situation where it was sort of obvious what happened, not that this particular situation is -about- HnK
>>107890883No, Taso should come back to prevent that. Also (you) shouldn't write this.
taso should cum in back (mine)
>>107886944How often does even work together with Watame though? The only thing I remember is the last 4th gen anniversary live
>>107891471Is it not a similar situation in your opinion? In terms of known unknowns. Either way I'm not about to start spreading libel just based on that but I'm also against simply calling taso retarded and dismissing something based on just that. If taso's graduation isn't the biggest sign that hololive's story isn't all shiny and smiley then I don't know what could be.
>>107888554Chama is only a menace to herself, not to others
>>107892568Possibly the fact that it was just impossible for them to work together is what was the problem. It would explain her saying it affected other members too since people would have to plan and schedule around that.
>>107892746watame makes more sense than a complete outsider like a 2nd gen or something, who kanata can just avoid completely.
Stop with the taso shuriken you stupid fucking captcha
>>107893605It's like a boomerang.
https://x.com/tokoyamitowa/status/2002920356433314206
https://x.com/tokoyamitowa/status/2002927750496289028https://www.youtube.com/live/O03uuwt58kk>#ホロふぉーす>OrioNames I haven't heard in a while.
>>107895050Basically every KanaTowa/Orio song is 10/10
>>107892746>>107893435https://youtu.be/ETS8qkZ332I?si=mrinjoS0vWCAvknO
>>107882880Yeah, we're talking about the same person who didn't ask for helo when she was locked out from home.
>>107898221Her ignoring Lamy during that was so sad, I don't think she's been thinking clearly for a while
>>107898470she needs someone to tardwrangle her
