>>107885193
Michael's cocksleeve (exclusive)

>>107885233
Qwerty is? Gay if true

>>107885193
Qrd?
Are we back?

I'm gonna laugh my fucking ass off if boyfriend ends up actually being called Michael

>>107885193
>husbands
Jeez cool it with the parasocialism

>qwerty isnt an anti btw!!!
lol irl

>>107883425
>The problems that she met for being "too parasocial" stem from her attempt to love everyone by loving each person, but as she has said before, that's impossible; instead, she needs to love us generally by both act and word. Not saying that she has to stop learning stuff about her particular viewers (husbands), but she can't possibly love everyone in the general sense by trying to love everyone in the particular sense. Why? Well, this becomes a problem for various reasons: first and foremost, things in particular will never be exact copies of other particular things, which directly implies unequality; secondly, it becomes a problem in the sense that it is literally impossible to do. You cannot meet a general goal by applying tactics that only work in a particular sense. Many husbands fall for this logic pit and they end up trying to act in this general relationship as particulars, which results in attentionfagging. This, too, ended up in people being hurt and in the very dynamic being hurt.
>Unfortunately, in this community, there is a severe lack of critical thinking. Feelings and desires are all good, but to rely on them solely is a big mistake if you want to achieve anything good, since, above all, the heart is deceitful. God has endowed man with both a sensitive soul and a rational mind. The wise man knows when to use both, and how to keep each of the two in check by the use of the other: When you're being led by your heart too much, you use your mind to bring yourself on the right path, but when you're being too rational and are acting with a pragmatic mindset, then your heart is supposed to step in and remind you of its existence, bringing out the love for your neighbour back to the surface and humanising you.
>Anyway, the solution to our problems in or that appear from the marriage (or by the attempt at it) will not be found by limiting only the wife's side of the dynamic. Since this dynamic is two-way, any problem that is had on one side will always affect the other as well. The wife will always suffer with or because of the husband, and vice versa. You cannot solve your suffering by limiting yourself while letting the husbands keep going. Why is this? It is because it is not God's will for man to fix his issues by simply avoiding things, but by doing the opposite: this is another way of saying that avoiding vices is not enough, but that you need to replace them with virtues.
>You won't fix your issues by leaning into them more. Why do I say you're leaning more into your problems rather than away from them, though that is how it seems to be? It is because you claim that you were unfair to us, but by restricting yourself only, you end up placing a heavier yoke upon our shoulders, that of unrequited effort in love. Unfairness so harsh that it can kill even the body by the will of the man on whom this yoke is placed. Not only physically, but also spiritually and mentally. Truly, love is the most perilous of all areas! So then, the true answer to your suffering seems to be in the realisation of claimed unfairness by being fair to us. How could you do that? It is a simple matter of changing your approach to loving us from a particular one to a general one, as is the thesis of this thread. I believe that by fixing this problem in approach, you will end up fixing nearly everything from stress to pressure to perform, and it will solve the attentionfagging in the community if they aim to implement this approach as well.
>Nothing is too far gone for redemption!
>As a closing note, I also believe that simply ending the dynamic is not a perfect solution. I reckon it is merely running away from the problem, rather than seeking to solve it. Also, I personally would never accept it and would fight to prevent it with my life on the line.

>>107885193
you were wrong

>If bitch wants more money she needs to re-release and reprint old merchandise
I'd be down

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I love her now!

>>107885302
nope

>>107885427
It would be nice for people who only came in recently
We should have nostalgia weeks where she uses old assets and does old activities
Though, did she delete her old models? I forgot

>>107885302
No, we're still cooked, but there's some hope

>>107885302
LTD deleted his wifeposting Twitter account and changed his bio to "It was all a joke I guess" but is in the chat pretending nothing happened.

https://x.com/i/status/2002667351721046459

>>107885598
??? Why would he watch her after that?

enjoying your hangout with dewd guys? c:

>>107885344
Just fill out the form

>>107885718
When you're a banned incorrect cuck?
lol irl groomeranti

>>107885598
>in the chat pretending nothing happened
Him and his butt buddies keep spamming WetCat because it has the connotation of being cucked now

LTD is still in p6w, do you think they're still trying to groom her?

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c:

>>107885819
>incorrect
you wish
>cuck
no
>groomer
maybe
>anti
false
1/4, impressive

i won c:

https://www.the-joi-database.com/watch/3016c5fe65196e5db30e7b2c
new shondo joi

>>107886120
404

Why is my stream like 10 seconds behind the chat but Twitch says my latency is way less than that.

>>107886152
oh maybe you need to make an account cause its loli and that stuff is hidden unless you whitelist the tag in your options

She is viewbotting like Olivia

Did she say something or why are all these gachis dumping their merch and writing twitter manifestos?

>>107885598
>LTD
Low-Tier Downie?

>>107886286
Linux terminal display

>>107886280
lel i want to see, post links

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>>107886120
T-thanks I guess...

>>107886339
Qwerty coded content

>>107886339
weird guh

>>107886370
lmao

>>107886370
???

>>107886266
I looked into it with viewermetrics and she had 0 bots on this stream

>>107886370
LMAO

>>107886469
>I looked into it with [Schizo tool that doesn't work or mean anything]
>>>/lig/

>>107886516
It is the same tool that detected Olivia's and Grimmi's bots

>>107886587
Refer to the post you replied to

Why she still gives kisses? That's parasocial behaviour

>come here to see if anyone is talking about the stream
>it's all schizophrenia
Nice thread you have here, retards

>>107886784
Thanks

>>107886823
>manchildren throwing pity parties
No wonder she divorced these losers

>>107886120
this isn't /trash/

>>107887112
you sure?

>>107886881
She literally encouraged people to unironically fall in love with her and dedicate their time, money, and emotions to her. And now people shit on the poor saps remaining that still believed in it. Messed up.

>>107887435
Deserved.

>>107884010
What do you think she means when she says she is planning to deal with the toxicity within her community? No one is saying this is all on you, but you will not be saved if you refuse to accept that you are part of the collateral. And I will be /here/ to tell you that I told you so.

>>107887702
>What do you think she means when she says she is planning to deal with the toxicity within her community?
What she means is irrelevant because she won't do anything.

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>>107887702
not relevant to what i was saying. i'm talking about the shit that has been going on for years that has been the massive majority of her issues that made her feel this way. any issues she may or may not have with me are nothing compared to the stuff that has been weighing on her mind for almost half a decade now

>>107888295
>ignore the problems ive caused her, focus on nebulous other problems i have no proof for!!!
unbelievable.

>>107888955
>don't focus on the nebulous complex problem i'm a part of, focus on the easiest thing then forget about me, i mean the totally unimportant larger issue i've deliberately obfuscated over years with the rest of my groomclique!!!
spoken like a true groomer mod c:

>>107888295
>any issues she may or may not have with me are nothing compared to the stuff that has been weighing on her mind for almost half a decade now
>source: the guy causing the issue

After banning the groomers, Shondo will revive chicken like a fenix from the ashes

>>107888955
>i have no proof for
only almost 5 years of her complaining about said issues and slowly distancing herself and taking things away
>>107889069
okak

>>107889207
this nigga said fenix

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>>107885385
>As a closing note, I also believe that simply ending the dynamic is not a perfect solution. I reckon it is merely running away from the problem, rather than seeking to solve it. Also, I personally would never accept it and would fight to prevent it with my life on the line.
>personally would never accept it and would fight to prevent it with my life on the line.

Holy shit you people are pathetic. It's not real, It's just a girl on the internet, with virtual anime avatar, playing a character. She has her life, she has past, she has her own feelings, she's a person for fuck sake. You are delirious if you think you can have a real relationship with her, even if you rich and can buy her so to speak, would you want a woman to be around just because of your money? Nothing you fantasise about is real. It's so unmanly and pathetic. I don't watch streams for 5 years now, only vods occasionally. And it's vtubers. Some of them are funny, they are anonymous so they can act foolishly, make edgy jokes. be dorky and what not, its funny and endering but they are just streamers on the internet. Living on the other side of the planet. Stop obsessing, stop scheming, stop thinking your donos will make the girl fall in love with you magically.

0 fucking testosteron in most of this community.

>>107889322
>I don't watch streams for 5 years now
then stfu cause you have no clue what you're talking about

>>107888295
I understand it is not relevant to what you are saying because you are either shifting blame intentionally or ignorantly. Which is why I am asking you; what do you think she means when she says she is planning to deal with the toxicity within her community?

>>107889317
>my wife for hire

>>107889322
I have never donated a penny

Shondo fighting against the patriarchy

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>>107889390
>then stfu cause you have no clue what you're talking about
I do because I used to watch streams, and stream myself way back in 2013. We were playing Newerwinter Nights and some table top games with each other. A couple years later I've streamed Dragon Age Inquisition for my one viever, wich was my IRL friend, we were testing builds and shit.

5 years ago i really got a crush on some russian girl streaming (I'm ru fag myself). Even donated a couple of times to her, She was really small streamer, and we've began talking outside of streams, Talked about life and shit, she asked me for advice. Long story short, she got much bigger and publically shitted on me (I really wasn't even asking for something innapropriate or tried to groom or what not). I don't know what she's doing now, but last time I checked her socials (a year ago or more) she went from cute girl into run of a mill conventional beauty thot, with "friends" and "life", "travels" and so on.

YOU ARE DILUTING YOURESELF FAGGOTS. LISTEN TO MY WISDOM!!

>>107889761
> Long story short, she got much bigger and publically shitted on me
classic betrayal… sorry that happened to you dude

Stats doko?

>>107889414
how the fuck am i meant to know what her plan is? go ask her
>>107889761
nobody gives a fuck about your sob story you faggot tourist. get over it

>>107890025
found dead in his room with 3 gunshot wounds to the head

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>>107889899
>classic betrayal… sorry that happened to you dude
Thank you bro, I'm much much better now, much healthier, unlike this faggit >>107890142

LINKTHEDOT IS DEAD
FINALLY THE CURSE PAID OFF

SORRY MICHAEL IT HAD TO BE DONE

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Link is not dead he's (rightfully) calling someone gay for watching Kumo (a male vtuber)

>Groomers are unironically flocking off to Mishie
>All their jokes in Shondo's discord asking for a new 2view were real
Holy shit my sides LOOOOOOOOL

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>>107890996
Mishie appears to be even more retarded than Shondo with a profile description like this.

Overall, it was a good stream today! I love her the most! Read my twitter for solutions @fallenshadow_YT

>>107890142
What do you mean by plan? I am just quoting her from today. She was explicit in her words. What toxicity do you think she was referring to? I find it odd you are avoiding that part specifically.

>>107891093
seems to be old, don't see it on her twitch

>>107891093
https://x.com/3_stannn/status/2002894441754083558?s=20
That seems good enough for him and LTD.

>>107890996
>mishie
who?? and how do you know they are flocking to her? ltd and noncium are there?

>>107891266
>>107891207

>>107891170
i get it bro you want me to answer your loaded question and pretend i've never upset her or annoyed her by arguing or whatever or you just know i'll own that shit and say yeah i've upset her at times and you can use that to spin it into me deserving a perma and whatever else. just get to the point and say you want me banned

>>107891207
bro is getting wingmanned, got me laughing

>>107891291
Whether you deserve it or not is up to you. I am just asking a simple question.

>>107891207
>a loli model with a knife emoji
That's it? That's the similarity?

>>107891420
I think what matters is moving on to greener pastures. At least in their eyes.

Buy my Shondo stuff on ebay

>>107891399
well if you want to know the toxicity then refer to what i already pointed out because that's the main issue. all the unhealthily obsessed retards that did nothing else but dedicate their time to getting her attention. throw in anything else in general that upsets her. idk wtf you want from me in this convo cause nobody even 100% knows what's going through her head besides knowing this stuff she's been complaining about for years is still an issue. idk what the future looks like in her mind or what exactly she wants to do

>>107891488
>1488
Hi Kaz

>>107891524
>throw in anything else in general that upsets her
Thank you. That will be all.

>>107891687
yeah now let's see if she actually commits to doing anything cause i'd put money on that she doesn't which is the whole point of what i'm saying :)

A new shondo for the modern audience

chat was dead today, I guess shondopolis is over o7

>>107891488
Is it encrusted?

>>107891773
I too am hopeful that she commits to her words and cleans out the toxicity within her community.

>>107891838
No, may have a few stray cat hairs though

https://youtu.be/BXXQ7Dl3CGQ
https://youtu.be/BXXQ7Dl3CGQ
https://youtu.be/BXXQ7Dl3CGQ

>>107891797
dead dead or just actually the expected amount of activity for her size rather than 5 groomers spamming

>>107891983
and she should start with the mystery chibishon avatarfag that seems to be upset with this statement, whoever they are

>>107892207
>3k viewers
yeah I expected more activity

>>107891207
>>107891093
>a it/she/he/they
I don't think that will end well either

This year was very bad for me, mostly because of her (unironically)

>>107892672
do a chargeback if you can

If qwerty is always right then why don't people (him included) mention shondo on Twitter with his ideas or whatever?
>>107892661
>>107891191

>>107891093
this shit aint a ticking time bomb this shit is T-1

>>107892062
You're a whore and nobody here would be interested in you.

>>107892739
I've never given any money

https://files.catbox.moe/5xjzys.mp4

>>107892895
bassed dropchama...

>>107892672
Time to graduate from the hobby

>>107892661
oof pronoun people are a yikes

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let it go

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>>107890025
They take a moment to generate. Also I was doing something.

>>107890636
I knew someone cursed me...

>>107890905
Yeah, Kumo out. It's dead fucking obvious his goal is just to poach people and take over p2w anytime he shows up. Disgusting. (+ he ego searches in her server)

>>107875624
Not me, I still love her a lot.

>>107878586
I was I just don't know how to talk to her at this point.

>>107878004
Yeah I will, I still care a lot.

The groomer wound licking is fascinating to watch.

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I wish all shondophrenics the best
dont let the brainworms win

I came here to laugh at you. But now I just shake my head and wonder who else you will try to groom. Just stick with your oshi and sit in that chair.

>>107894170
Isn't it a little bit funny? In order for other vtubers to be safe from them, they have to stick with their sunk cost and be cucks.
All because behaving and not creating off-putting toxicity within her community was apparently too much to ask. These selfish manchildren are reaping everything they deserve.

>>107889322
Most people nowadays can't even accept that they are lucky enough to live in the same time period and age spectrum to enjoy the entertainment their favorite content creators put out. I don't need the social interaction or getting into a viewer game.

>>107894473
the worst of the selfish manchildren just spent five hours talking to shondo in a chat with 10s of other non-selfish manchildren being ignored, but i do like your fantasy, that would indeed be ideal and quite easy

>>107894695
Their lack of self-awareness or accountability indicate that they will not be around for much longer at least. Her mods will be aware of today's discussion during zatsu and all the guns are loaded.

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Lmao

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>>107894473
>not creating off-putting toxicity within her community was apparently too much to ask.
it isn't, that has been the goal the entire time if you've been paying attention, the worst offenders flat out would admit this when talking about how shondo had grown and how it means things weren't gatekept like before and how it was ruining everything (their grooming)

but now they know not to make that obvious because shondo has a crippling copium addiction so any crumb of gaslighting and act like they haven't known what they were doing the entire time is like crack rocks to her, even if she knows better during moments of more lucidity

it wasn't an accident that dewd was emailing her while shaming others for doing so and telling others not to, it isn't a coincidence he's the same guy who was constantly bitching about her channel growth and saying passive aggressive things about money, he didn't make a mistake two years ago, his intention and behavior never changed, he only apologized because he had to because shondo, for the first and last time didn't let him get away with his manipulation of her and others

>>107894895
kek ok chuuni ahh, the mods were often contributing to that kind of environment but sure i still have hope they might not be groomercoded, though it's weird we're even at this point despite this discussion being brought to their attention for years now. the people who have gotten the most shit from the mods and banned are like the last on the list of problematic ones, except som but i genuinely think he's just retarded (non-derogatory i am too)

i remember shondo saying a year ago from the first hiatus that she'd have an iron fist, and then her saying she was ungroomable months later, and then admitting months later she was being really naive and biased and manipulated in terms of that kind of thing, and then made that beanserver post in p2w, etc etc etc

btw they HAVE self awareness, they KNOW what they're doing, again, it's not a mistake that certain people have gotten caught constantly acting dishonestly and two-faced lmao

you know this whole drama wouldn't have even happened if she had just banned the problematic people a week or months ago

and i do expect more people to get banned. but not the worst offenders. like som said, this has been happening to her since before he was around, no long term regulars from that era have been banned and ahve been hardly moderated, it's not a fuckin coinky dink the problem hasn't change c:

shondo said it herself though, the mods aren't the problem. she is. fall guys in 10 minutes btw, right after chicken gets made fun of and nuked for the same thing c:
btw fart rune is lucky he isn't perma'd
stop sending her emails!

goodnight though, different day same shit, see you tomorrow, just cope. shondo is hoping the malicious manipulators are going to outright tell her to her face she's just a stripper lmao, as long as they gaslight, no matter how much they get caught showing their true colors and intent, she will cope and 2026 will be another year of the same drama from the same couple groomers

not sure i should even make this post but who cares, this conversation is gonna happen anyway if something ever gets done, everyone already knows all this but we pretend it's a secret cause it keeps shondo feeling powerless and scared of it "leaking"

meanwhile chicken and flowki and this shit is blowing up on the mainstream already

night night nigga

come home black man, picrel, the true eldritch idol bringing pure joy and not-groomed by a couple internet losers who got in at the right time to lie to her and not get caught until it was too late for her to not be brain broken

i'm not sure the mods care about her enough to fight for her, they seem to like the status quo, suspiciously

prove me wrong please, make me look stupid and schizo <3

well that answers how tubby is taking being cucked; that's an extreme melty lmao

>>107895509
Nice to see you're still so easy to bait and also learned nothing.

I aint reading allat man

>>107895509
Nothing has brought me such joy as shondo destroying your disgusting groomer narrative that you've been coping with for you very a year.
How does it feel to have been shown to be so, so wrong? c:

Next time there won't be "fall guys in 10 minutes!", she'll just ban the shitters like she did with Cordies and Somnium the other day.

The last time I was touristing here was some retard pretending to be mentally 14 or some shit like that is he still here

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>>107895509
LMAO cuck melty

>also embeds are off here because we also had some subs go unhinged after the stream last week. so just being safe
:)

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>>107895588
>bait
what bait? having a serious discussion bringing up valid things and history?
>learned nothing
what is there to learn? that saying nothing just lets the problem get to where it is now?

oh right the lesson is that it's bad to talk about this stuff because that has lead to actual change happening in regards to moderation or shondo's mindset and growth and we want to groom her

>>107895742
>i don't care
i know, no one does, not even shondo, even when she's tearing up on stream expressing how this has weighed on her

>>107895797
yeah it's all just funny games so true shondo should forget her being extremely stressed and others too being harmed for years, you're just a silly guy, unlike those other banned evil ones
>>107895843
the last two streams dewd was bringing up michael memes, which she apparently chastised someone else for (AFTER he had done it and she said nothing (and then he did it again after)) and also talking about the /here/ rrat he was posting to stir shit and groom shondo about him going to japan with her

nothing will change, cordies and som aren't a part of the dewd kind of groomer or shit stirrer, not a SINGLE one of them has been banned and shondo won't even call it out

genuinely ask yourself how brain broken she had to be to boot up fall guys when dewd sperged out, and it's not the first time he's done worse like shame her for not giving him attention on his duck picture and be passive aggressive in discussion knowing she was reading it

but then shit on chicken and paper on main twitter and stream and let everyone else do it too

sorry bro, but you're not living in reality, this has been said for literally over a year now, and the last two streams there were opportunities for her to do that yet she ignored it and kept giving him his attention-melty quota

you need to be beat

come home black man picrel

>>107896007
He's not pretending, he's a mentally stunted manchild.
Want to know the sad part? Shondo banned him 14 months ago. It's honestly pathetic he hasn't moved on.

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while you wait in the van

>>107896042
>he's actually having a melty because she's still giving king D all the attention and he's jealous
you are utterly mindbroken Tiffany c:

>>107896042
That’s nice lil gup

>>107896042
>genuinely ask yourself how brain broken she had to be to boot up fall guys when dewd sperged out,
Firstly, you don't have to put her down just to try and make an argument. Also, it was the other regulars attacking him the entire time and slinging insults while he just responded left right and center without being mean back.
You unironically need to find a new scapegoat because your mind is genuinely cucked and broken. Seek therapy and Christ.

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>>107896042
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
you lost cuck
ur banned btw

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>>107896083
what's more pathetic is shondo not moving on from her groomers, i thought higher of her than tubby, but it seems she's the same. i just feel sorry for the poor girl... she should let inis take over her account for a day
>>107896129
she's not giving him that much attention, it's the fact that she's giving him any attention when he's the biggest problem in regards to everything she said and is intentionally malicious

dewd is the one who is jealous btw if you haven't caught on
>>107896172
yep

anyway where was dewd during the jason watchalong in alice' server?

>>107896204
thank you for proving my point about how desperate and pathetic you and your kind are to groom a girl and her community (because that's apart of grooming the chuuba) on the internet

get a job or a hobby, shondo is gonna ban you for being so unhealthy with her! lel

anyway whatever have fun desperately running damage control all night cause you know shondo reads the thread but you gaslight like you don't like how you gaslit that you didn't know about the twitter alts and all that c:

>>107896311
>she's not giving him that much attention
>entire Pragmata demo today was them having a 1 on 1 about the game
Jealousy is very unflattering, you should find better things in life than obsessing over other men.

it's worse actually because shondo's grooming history goes back long before tubby even got banned or mentioned this once, but to be fair shondo is more mentally ill than him, maybe

>groomeranti's getting baited this hard by T of all people
they will never learn their lesson

>>107896587
What exactly is the bait?

have any of you actually reflected on what she said or do you just think it doesn't apply to you?

>>107896617
it doesn't apply to me c:

>>107896617
the people she was talking about have been doing what she was talking about intentionally for years, that is the point and entire reason they are still around because shondo won't fix the problem and they have done everything they can to cause the problem
except maybe som, he seems to be a little shook, rightfully

>>107896690
they're literally doing it right above in the thread kek

>>107896311
>anyway where was dewd during the jason watchalong in alice' server?
another derek can confirm for me but as far as I'm aware he isn't in any of her friend's servers. kind of based honestly. she asked everyone to be less obsessive and he doesn't chase her when she goes to hang out with her friends.

>>107896768
weird cause he is on the 4chan thread all day obsessively and follows her to the barbies channels when she chats for a while, and shondo didn't mind regulars being there she said herself, it was mostly the people posting anonymously that were why shondo was upset with how regulars were acting

>>107896836
proof? surely you have logs for the last time he did that then.

>>107896836
yeah and he was super vocal about her jason special interest after she put her foot down with the other regulars who were upset by that, it's kinda weird he didn't bother showing up at least once for the multiple days that went on, maybe he was camping at some crystal lake or something and didn't even see the thread or his buddies like abcs, who also had an issue with niko like he did, and the mod discussion around that time, being upset by the whole ordeal
he'd never be performative or dishonest about his beliefs and act one way on main while acting another anonymously, he grew up on 4chan he likes to brag about that
>>107897073
it's in shondo's head mod hippocampus

>>107896311
You're oozing with jealousy. King D won, you're a banned faggot
Cut or cope, lil gup c:

i'm sure this pattern of behavior and coincidences adjacent to that behavior spanning years is meaningless

which pattern?
King D anting her antis or Tiffany having another jealousy tantrum?

So after today we could see this didn't solve any of the problematic behavior

>>107888295
>>107891291
If you don't deserve to be banned then who does? Maybe Chicken? Those who despite appearing whiny were whining for a good reason, the unwitting teamplayers who understood with their gut that the competitive state of these relationships is what brought their ruin and her's and our's collective turmoil, and so wanted for competition to stop?

The feverish attention seeking and expressions of infatuation bordering on mental illness are just symptoms of the main problem. It's the competitive struggle, the rat race that has made them the new default state, the norm, and thus unpunishable. She's panicking from interacting with us because the competition has become the main driver behind these interaction. It has eclipsed whatever genuine care this community still has for her, and she sees the backstabbing and judgemental gazes behind every greeting, every funny picture, every emote, every initiative.
She's physically sick of this vibe, and so are many of the regulars.

Speaking of initiatives, she's not going to get any decent gifts born out of collaboration like that picture book that Inis got for her birthday, because in the current environment all creative initiative that requires more than a few people for completion will be a subject to dynamics of a power struggle, which would at best corrupt the result and at worst waste good intentions and energy for nothing while creating more drama. Nobody in their right mind finds that acceptable, and so we get singular people just doing their thing with occasional commissions and low effort gatekept circlejerks that do create drama.

To claim that your crime lies in merely annoying her sometimes is to confirm your detachment from reality. Your presence in the community can be boiled down to competing with everyone around yourself for the sake of ego cultivation, peaceful conflict resolutions and teamwork on equal footing are alien concepts to you. By engaging clueless tourists and by treating every subjective flaw of certain regulars as an excuse to escalate or create conflict you attempt to wrangle control from her hands over who gets a say in her community while intentionally boosting yourself upwards in social hierarchy within. You have turned her space into a playground for your ego while disregarding the consequences of upsetting the balance, because having power over people is the only way you can assert your own worth to yourself and you seem to never feel like you are finally worthy enough. You aren't able to establish your own worth to yourself without "defeating" others, every action of yours carries the mark of this compulsion you are a slave to, and so you embody the main problem she has with her community by infusing strife into every other interaction you take a part in.

No matter how much you ennoble and excuse your actions they will always be driven by your narcissism, first and foremost. You might think you love her, but what you love more is the idea of possessing her and taking her away from everyone else. You claim that your actions help to prevent and solve drama, but they instead sow more of it so you can make an impression by valiantly engaging it. You pretend that you wish only the best for her, meanwhile among the basic affirmations you sneak in manipulations designed to guilt-trip her into keeping you around while criticising her level-headed expressions of autonomy and maturation. Because her role as a helpless little girl is more suitable for your noble protector fantasy that you play out to cover your ugly needs of a conflict-seeking egotist.

You are of the same ilk that usually gets banned from her discord on sight and that brought misery to her mother, it's a shame you had managed to hold back long enough to accumulate your good boy points with money and lovebombing and foster the guilt of ever contemplating your ban in her head, since she's so easily made to feel guilty.

tubby too fat and lazy now he's using chatGPT to generate custards

>>107898819
what prompt was used to generate this? 97% of people give a wrong answer

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMY5VwfcGdU

>>107898883
>Jarvis, generate cringe

>>107869149
nope!! never gonna happen!!

>>107898757
awful custard >_<

https://youtu.be/0kYq-E8BJgU?si=FMHG7Ra9VjnEzFS8

https://youtu.be/gGdGFtwCNBE

>>107885193
So did that banana guy an hero?

https://youtu.be/DksSPZTZES0

actual lolis are a LOT different from FallenShadow, its really good if you move on!!

I come from New Zealand farms to laugh at you guys. I seriously hope none of you actually gave money to Shondo.

https://youtu.be/Ixrje2rXLMA

Nah I?m done with this sket, fuck her.

https://youtu.be/gPDcwjJ8pLg

>>107893639
>I still love her a lot.
Why did you delete your Twitter where you profess that love and then say it was all a joke?

I'm not reading any of this, man
Why are we back to this?

>>107902814 me
All things considered, we were doing better without fake gary and tuff present
They also showed up at the same time... hmmm...

Shitty stream shitty wife

>>107903637
Told you so

>>107902814
>Why are we back to this?
we never left, shondo never changed anything, chicken isn't the one spending /here/ and chat or discord all day stirring drama and toxicity, that's dewd and his kind, which is excluded from everything shondo says about changing things which is why nothing has changed for the last 3+ years.

thankfully once the mods convince her to ban somnium dewd will still be around to do this all day while shondo also gives him the bread crumbs of attention he needs to not get bored or completely implode from his valid insecurity and jealousy

shondo is groomed, go read the past she wrote on the bean server if you want a more detailed explanation of her saying that she knows this but doesn't care, except when it comes to anyone else who gets banned or made fun of on stream who isn't the cause of the problem

just how forceful was riri?

>>107903779
I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT SHONDO, I'M TALKING ABOUT YOU NIGGA

>>107903805
>YOU
you should try reading and understanding first since you seem so passionate. i am still here because i never left, i am still talking about the issue because it never changed and just got worse when i quit talking about the issue, and unlike the few people causing this issue for the last few years that has shondo crying and giving her innocent normal healthy fans brainworms, i actually care about shondo, hope that helps

how new are you? this is like the 10th time i've been the only one talking about things like this and not ignoring them or actively contributing to shondo's mental being stuck, try paying attention and stop asking questions you can figure out the answer to because you want to avoid confronting the unfortunate reality!!!

therapy could help you a lot here shogga

>>107903880
okay

>>107903970
i know you hate me and hate that i do this but i also hope you realize that you can't actually form a coherent argument against it and yet you still are actively hostile and dismissive of it almost as if you've been groomed into this unhealthy loop and irrational pathology

bunch of cucks not happy for Shondo. You all disgust me

>>107904005
I think i might be the only one who doesn't hate you, and i more hate how you do what you do

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>>107895509
cheesus christ, that's a long post about some e-bitch

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>>107904037
yep that's entirely valid and true and i also believe you
however i'm more concerned with more important things than getting caught up on the nuances and little things which is preventing addressing the actual issue!!!

like i said, this is the kind of surface level shit a therapist will tell you about, and the surface level shit a manipulative person abuses as well because we naturally tend towards this thinking(massive asterisk)

there is no way i could possibly "do" this in a way that isn't subject to tons of valid scrutiny, especially because of how i have to do it, which is notably the intent and cause of the problem people too. like usual.

it's the same shit that had shondo doing that confessional stream and falling for the groomer narratives and defending fleece and the status quo of that

ironically fleece had to end up leaving himself and shondo only after the fact and a long health hiatus began to admit and start processing it

the point is, you're falling for the grooming retard, stop worrying about me and the infinite semantics to stall on the actual problem.

yeah you can't change the fact that dewd is a dishonest piece of shit stirring drama and toxicity for no good reason while also lying that he cares about shondo or anyone else at the same time
but the sooner you start coming to terms with that, and stop worrying about "how" i talk to a wall on the internet against other people actively trying to keep this issue happening because it benefits them, the sooner you start feeling better and making peace with the issue and understanding why we're still talking about this

>>107904167
shondo and i have spent many long nights improving our stamina with passionate hateful toxic e-sex

this is why i tell all my yung respectable black men to come home to a real eldritch bunny like nino (shondo's new kamioshi (previously oshi))

Tuffy why are you alive?

>>107904167
ignore him he has been banned for a year and a half and is an unmedicated psychotic

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>>107904218 (me)
>yeah you can't change the fact that
the point being that i know it's easier to try and change what i'm doing and those annoyances are valid and i'm at fault for that in large part- but you're missing the forest for the trees taking the bait on that
>>107904249
i'm not

>>107904218
Point delivery is NOT semantics, and it is NOT just details; delivery is 90% of the work.
The delivery is why everyone outside of groomers hates you
>inb4 no we hate him because he's an anti
He's an anti in the delivery

>>107904327
>it is NOT just details
it literally is
>delivery is 90% of the work
yes and i'm having to deliver it tlaking to a wall with multiple other malicious actors tainting that and actively spending their day running manipulation and narratives against

yes i know i haven't said things in a perfect way but the underlying substance of what i'm saying is right, and always has been, despite the usual suspects desperately doing their best to make that as hard for you as possible to believe

>everyone outside of groomers hates you
that's not even true, and note that the people that is true for are usually the non-groomers who are /here/

look at how you're sitting here telling me about delivery like that has any relevance to the objective fact about what's happening and what's best for shondo and everyone

you don't like how i deliver it? absolutely fine, then you work it out in your head in the way that you want to hear it said instead of shutting down and defaulting to groomed mode because they sell you a fake reality that sounds better because it's fake

again, therapy

>>107904327
i am not a groomer and i don't hate him :3

>>107904429
see? thanks garychama~ >.<

Shondo will keep the wife larp but will not say it directly.

Quite disgusting tb h

>>107904502
she is my wife and it's not a larp, but true for the rest of you loser chudcels lmaooooo *plap plap plap plap* *shondo's muffled moans heard through the door your ear is pressed to*
Verification wasn't required.

>>107904519
vivi... please treat her well....

>>107904502
so? what are you some pathetic faggot excuse of a "man"? lmao that's grosser t bh, at least transition if you're gonna be this much of a sissy

So the marriage isn't over, and she still loves us, but won't act out on it because it has hurt her in the past; but we can still love her and be parasocial, though she wishes to establish a healthier dynamic for both of us. We can still call her wife, but she won't (can't) return our feelings... We're so divorced, man.

>>107904779
My name is darthbob

>>107904858
>So the marriage isn't over, and she still loves us
Stopped reading there

>>107905089
keep reading wth man

>>107905120
naur...

Anyone actually care how Shon feels and is happy for her? She's always wanted a dominant man in her life to keep her disciplined and motivated. Serving a man traditionally will increase her mood and lead to a good 2026.

>>107905331
She is making those changes because of me c:

>>107904858
>We can still call her wife, but she won't (can't) return our feelings...
oh great we can still donate and get attached but with no feedback yay

>>107905331
How do you type that and not want to die

>>107905387
Well yeah in a perfect world it would be me doing that but shitting on her won't change anything. The better man won, sometimes you just have to lower your head in a nod of respect and accept there's a winner in life. There's always a new lottery to play.

Not only am i a parasocial, i am THE parasocial

>>107885233
ew gross no

>>107905415
That is so pathetic, gross cuck

My Wife Is FUCKING Another Man And THAT'S ALRIGHT Actually

>this all happens after she makes 6 figures in a donothon
I fucking HATE women.

>>107905420
Jhon Parosocial is here

>>107905441
Uh yeah, I'm the cuck here accepting the situation and taking a step back to still enjoy Shon....the Chad of the situation is you, the guy who's going to keep giving money to someone who's found the man they want to serve instead. Little guy is so tough.

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i was getting shilled to watch shondos streams before alot
i rather just shitpost in shondos threads and respond to michael memes knowing full well its not about me, but its funny to play along like it is
peace n love to all yall shondoenjoyers and shondo and company

>>107905120
>fewer
>didn't block
pussy

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>>107904858
>>107904502
If you're a gfefag why wouldn't you just move to Kanna instead of accepting these scraps? Or menmakki if you're okay with nonvirgins.

>>107905533
thanks, u 2

>>107905491
i've never given her a dollar

>>107905597
>Or menmakki if you're okay with nonvirgins.
Wouldn't be watching Shondo otherwise

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>>107905634
Uhuh everyone saying that after this week

>>107905682
No it's literally just been me over and over

>>107905597
I hate that particular VTuber, do you maybe have a list of 20 recomendations? If they are 2 views even better!

>>107905731
Check your inbox

>>107905731
Why? she won't emasculate you like /our girl/?

>>107906227
Thank you c:

>>107905710
So you've been seething over and over? Ok then no one will stop you.

>>107906453
???

>>107906530
What are you not getting?

reminder to charge back your donations or you're a spineless cuck
don't let her divorce rape you

I'm still laughing at all of you
No one fell harder

>>107907778
rushia was worse but shondo still has time to further humiliate shoggers

>>107907804
If you think about it, at least Rushia, as awful as that was, wanted to keep it up and going, it was external factors forcing her world to implode.
Shondo voluntarily ditched you.

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>>107907822
She didn't ditch me because she was never my gf

qrd on husband suicides, how many jumped the cliff?

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>>107908096
at least 6 million, any less would be parasocial.

>>107908096
none, that'd mean they actually follow through with anything in their lives

>>107908096
Not a single one of you lot has the spine to actually walk out
You'll be just like naplings and take it

Shondo says she hates GFE vtubers, but who is she actually talking about? Because she's interacted with multiple of them on twitter.

>>107908324
She hates GFEtubers because they take potential paychecks away.

Why does she loudly scream at random times? Is she a schitzo?

>>107908492
no she's a shitshow

So when are shoggers going to take notice that it's over? they are trying to keep the circus going but it's going to crumble down under its own weight.

>>107896617
im not trying to be in a real relationship with her so it doesn't apply but what she said still irks me

>>107904858
she cant do it anymore because the autistic retards go crazy

>>107908772
Unfortunately it will take some people until she starts dating a family friend to really give up, which might take a few years.

>>107908324
she was a rushia and michael cat stan until it was revealed she was previously married

I get why people are hurt by what she said but, she is right. She needs to stop telling people she loves them and that she wants them to watch her only. She is encouraging people to be obsessed. Considering her position as a large streamer, it would be exploitative to tell a bunch of lonely guys to actually love her while taking their money. She is repulsed by GFE because it hurts people and sees it as malicious. She probably sees a lot of GFE vtubers behind the scenes and knows that they are lying to people about their relationship status to keep up a grift. It is also not feasible for her to be parasocial with her fans because there are too many. The human mind can’t remember hundreds of different people. It is too much information. She cannot reciprocate feelings in good faith unless she refers to a collective which comes across as hollow. If she does interact with a select few fans individually, it breeds jealousy and resentment. It makes complete sense. Don’t get me wrong I miss the old Shondo. Back a few years ago when she was happier, the fanbase was small, and she wasn’t as distant. It sucks but it is the reality of a massive fanbase.

>>107909039
just treat her like an entertainer like I did

>>107909059
Implying she's entertaining
lol irl

I'm not angry, I'm relieved.

>>107909059
Shon for entertainment that isnt parasocial flirting. Annnnddd dropped

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nino is her new kamioshi. and it suits her better because she will never be yapanese but she is a weeb. though rushia's beautiful princess disorder also fits shondo more but well no two snowflakes are alike
>>107909039
she wasn't happier a few years ago because of anything to do with this, she is objectively doing way better once you stop being a depressed schizoaffective brain and remember things objectively. things are worse now because of outside factors

genuinely one of shondo's biggest problems is she likes to fall for the groomer narrative that things were better before, they weren't, not in regards to streaming. look at how bad off she was back then whilst she still had her mother or FE around.

it should speak volumes at the intentions of anyone trying to put in her head that when she was smaller things were better and shondo herself, when taking a step backa nd reflecting, has said this as well, in regards to how much the way she acted back then stressed her or how she never left her house and her entire engagement with streaming was MUCH more of an actual grift, baby voice, groomed as fuck, more obvious public melties over regulars (now she hides it better that half her melties are because of the same few people)
etc

this entire post your making is just proof of how fucked your view and where your priorities are are completely mislead and off the mark.

the main people complaining about this right now btw are the older regulars from back then she won't ban, trying to hold her back, and trying to convince her against what you're saying and gaslight her that things were better with them back then like it's not just nostalgia goggles of her having her family around and her actual relationship with streamingand them was infinitely worse

i could go on forever but hopefully you're smart enough to get the idea

>>107909163
yep did the same.

>>107909177
No she was happier because her mom was around. She never said she wanted to die every single day either. I never said she was unhappy because of this. She is better off in terms of her living situation and financial situation but obviously she is struggling deeply or she wouldn’t have said so.

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>>107909177
CHECKED!!! shontopia will be saved, shondo dragged kicking and screaming the whole way inshallah

>>107908324
She hates gfe vtubers in general, not in particular

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>>107909343
>She is better off in terms of her living situation and financial situation but obviously she is struggling deeply or she wouldn’t have said so.
anonchama, i know, what you're saying is what i was saying, the point though is that one of the most toxic and insidious things in shondo's head right now is her conflating how things were in the past in terms of her mental or relationship to streaming and regulars with how things are now in terms of what has been weighing on her mental and stressing her

my problem is with how you focused on implying things were better when she was smaller and because she was smaller, that's just objectively not true, things were way worse for riri, especially considering she still had her mother back then.

like yes you're right, but it reeks of you conflating her being happier because she had her mother and less IRL stress with her being happier because [insert groomeranti fantasy idealisation leeching off of this tragedy and manipulated hindsight (etc)]

>>107909447
based
barbies don't count they're not vtubers they're soul snatchers like her like a witch's coven or some sort

>>107908324
she doesnt know and you shouldnt care

>>107908492
It's all she has. Her gameplay is shit and her zatsudan are just pity parties. All she can do is spout zoomer brainrot memes and make loud noises.

>>107909039
shondo only remembers dewd

Friendly reminder to all tourists if you see a huge wall of text with no capitalization and lots of reddit spacing it is being posted by a guy banned over a year ago and he is mentally ill.

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>>107909506
imagine chibishon taking on all of the barbies at once like this
>>107909528
pipe down lil bro holowhores run this industry, that's the appeal, let the entertainers handle it yeah lil gup?

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>>107909537
>>107909553
you forgot to hide your online status c:
>just woke up btw
get a job lmao this is unhealthy, shondo is gonna ban you like chicken if you keep this up bro, we're concerned for you

>>107909585
say it in dick sword c:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVgHPSyEIqk

>>107909625
i tell it to shondo in dms she doesn't give a fuck kek
you got me there

>>107909506
I did not say what you are implying. I -MYSELF, enjoyed her smaller fanbase. I’m not saying it is better to have a smaller audience objectively. I enjoyed it when she was happier. I’m also not saying that her encouraging “parasocialism” or groomer shit was a good thing. That’s why agree with her now. She has reflected on her morals and has taken a respectable stand but I still miss the her character back then. I have a lot of fond memories.

>>107909585
>like chicken
Dewd was being antagonistic within the community and calling everyone cucks for nearly a month? Proof of this?

>>107909699
dewd has been being antagonistic within the community for the last 3

>>107909039
It's hard to love and care about someone if they act like a brick wall to you. Not everyone is totally obsessed with her either. I hope she still let's us know she cares about our well being occasionally even if its as a collective group.

>>107909676
yep i agree with all of this
>I did not say what you are implying
ok good ur fine then
>>107909699
hje was literally making michael phone jokes the last 2 steams back and posting in chat about how he went to japan yeah
but you know what you are you're just posting about yourself, and throwing someone else under the bus while you're at it, being antagonistic :)

>>107909736
>Michael jokes
Do I really need to post the chat logs of her entire stream where literally every regular is making them? This is not proof. You are whining.

Oh god, here it comes.

she is doing karaoke for me c:

>>107909867
>practicing more
>sang more SOAD for him yesterday
>Dewd's favorite band btw c:

>>107909786
her entire community is dogshit yeah, the most chatty regulars (groomers) are responsible for that and cliqued up so of course they would, shondo called out someone for making those jokes herself though in the same stream, and som got banned for similar, and shondo did specifically say that her regulars were the problem so yep.

it's kinda like how shondo made that post about the bean server and then immediately backed down when she saw the usual suspects didn't give a fuck and argued against her lol

where was he for the jason watchalongs in alice' server? why did he say so much weird things about kumo? why did he attack her on twitter for talking with that iron vertex rigger? why does he post on 4chan all day stirring shit in the community and gaslighting against ideas shondo herself expresses on stream and in discord wishing things would improve?

fall guys in 10 minutes btw

>>107909849
>>107909910
LMAO

>>107909910
to be fair the fall guys incident was justified, shondo did ignore his duck picture after he passively aggressively talked about it, repeated himself 4 times in discussion, then shamed her for not giving him the special attention he wanted, so she owed him

As a outsider looking in this is probably the most pathetic shit I ever seen, but keep going I’m bored at work

Honestly her "male on stream" scream rant was a subtle clue. She was probably getting the bottom knocked out then. Based on the females I've been through in my life, she probably called out the same exact shit she was doing behind the scenes. And like them, she'll admit it one day. They have to. They can't stand not to. It's like confessing is some deep need. They can't wait to give you the details oj how the cheated with him too. I'm sure some of you guys relate.

>>107909997
it's not pathetic, shondo is just genuinely mentally ill so it seems that way, shondo is very strong if you saw it from her perspective

>>107909910
>shondo called out someone for making those jokes
Post the clip. There is clearly a difference between making the jokes she laughs along with or being an unironic cuck and whining the second you hear the names Michael or Jason. Kind of like how you whine whenever you hear names begin with D, come to think of it.

>>107910035
if there was even the slightest evidence that were true it would have been uncovered by schizos or antis

c:

>>107910055
They're really good liars. Lots of practice.

>>107909997
It's literally one guy that has constant jealousy tantrums because she dares to have favorite chatters. Just ignore the resident banned schizo.

>>107910045
>ignoring the rest
shondo will fall for this, focus on the semantics
>>107910055
no one realized or talked about her groomer issue for years, to be fair, even now it's mostly just the same one guy who has been the same one guy complaining about issues she ends up fixing at the protest of the majority

>>107910080
she's a terrible liar, the truth is she's just not actually doing that but part of it is some form of projection on her end yeah, usually when she gets vocal and mocking like that it's coming from a place of her being offensive to defend herself, just from how she thinks about her past relationship if only

>>107910151
>can't post the clip
The rest was irrelevant. This is just the next lie you will tack on every time you have a tantrum now. You added a new one which is interesting.
>why did he say so much weird things about kumo?
Can you provide any proof of anything ever?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NLw-SDzfXM

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>>107910213
W ESLchama

Welcome for the gift sub by the way King D. Did it anonymously for obvious reasons lol

>anonymously post about yourself being unsubbed
>anonymously gift yourself a sub to act like it wasn't you and to make yourself a victim
paranoid schizophrenics will fall for this for years

it was shondo that anon gifted him. when it happened during the hypetrain she stopped talking for a moment and typed quickly on the keyboard. go rewatch that moment c:

This whole general is an RP session between those two. I would paypal $5000 to help put together a boxing match between them (the ring would have to have a heavy weight limit).

c:

>>107910512
she hates the "paypal me 5k" jokes too, groomerantichama

>>107910479
remember when people used to virtue signal about tubby posting here being relevant to his ban, shondo would fall for that too

it's actually pottery that the first winner was a discord mod 5 years(?) older than her kek

now you know why she gets so defensive and mocking of those ideas btw c:

this girl... she's quite the handful, despite her itty bitty shitties

>>107909636
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7374CZQoS2Y

btw

>>107910576
King D is actually funny though. You are a literal lolcow. Big difference, chump.

>>107889761
Nobody cares. Just kill yourself already :)

>>107910608
take your meds, you are having a cat picnic a snack

Why does no one talk about the epidemic of lonely men being preyed upon for their money? Is there a term for this situation sociologically? Has this happened in the past?

>>107910213
I miss this evil ESL demon.

>>107910715
it's called vtubing

>>107910684
Is that what you call whatever this is?
>>107910576
>>107909910
>>107909506
>>107909177

>>107910715
not enough wars for young men to die in
right now you either need to be brown or a slav

>>107910739
That implies it has never happened before in the history of humanity.

>>107910715
Nothing new, the same young men used to waste their savings on alcohol and hookers.

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>>107910715

>I’ve noticed an increase of people reselling their shumos in light of recent events
Tubby why aren't you dereking this? Her regulars are anti'ing her right in the discord you're banned from?

>>107910715
Gold digger is an old term.

Woke up with a wicked smile spread across my face. How are my fellow shoggas holding up?

>>107911097
because shondo has no problem moderating the normal regulars like chicken or paper wing, there's no need, and the mods also can do something about it, unlike those with immunity

>>107911365
>those with immunity
Meds

>>107911149
>>107911009
This case the men are receiving nothing in return except being spoken to.

>>107912406
>she said she loves me yesterday
>i can still call her wife
i continue winning

c:

I want to love her.

>>107911890
they have autonomy, you are extremely naive if you think "being spoken to" is as worthless as you think, go out into the real world! it's even worse out there, believe it or not