>>107985711
>lulu came back because anycolor changed for better
>kanata left because cover sucks and still sucks
anycolor wonnered cover lostered

>>107985917
>>lulu came back because anycolor changed for better
You forgot to mention Anycolor are the one's who forced Lulu out of the company in the first place

>>107985676
They protect bourgeois class interests. Same thing that every corpo does, OP.

>>107986349
and? they at least changed unlike cover

>>107985676
>what does cover actually do?
wins the vtuber game apparently

>>107986520
>and? they at least changed unlike cover
How'd they change? Can you give specifics?

>>107986520
did they now

>>107986578
lulu said they got better so I believe her words it's why she came back in the first place

>>107986661
Again, do you have a source? Examples of how they were before and how they've improved?
Do you have ANY supporting evidence that they've actually, really improved in any meaningful way?

>>107986785
proof is lulu's comeback

>>107986850
This doesn't mean Nijisanji changed.
For example, Lulu might have changed. Her standards might be lower now.

Though despite this, Nijisanji HAS changed objectively.
In 2019, Shindo Raito was terminated by Nijisanji due to his intentions of harassing and raping unknown Nijisanji women.
In 2025, Twisty Amanozako was terminated by Nijisanji due to her refusal of hush money by Nijisanji to excuse Aster Arcadia's harassment and potential attempted rape of known Nijisanji women, while Aster was instead quietly "separated" and had his career and reputation protected from his own actions.

Yeah, I'd say that's a big change!

>>107986349
Her stalker did. Lulu came back back because she loves Nijisanji

>>107986520
>and?
You don't get credit for fixing your own fuck ups, especially if it takes 5 years to do so

>>107987412
>especially if it takes 5 years to do so
kanata was literally complaining about cover being shit for years still doesn't change

>>107987497
>kanata was literally complaining about cover being shit for years
No she wasn't, you faggots just put words in her mouth

>>107989494
Yeah, if anything, a lot of members said that Cover improved a lot since 2020.

>>107989613
>a lot of members said that Cover improved a lot since 2020
>from shit to turd
name 1 (one) thing cover improved

>>107989773
Well they didn't specify exactly, but when you compare the debut of Myth to Advent or Justice you can see that they were given a budget to get everything right. Kanata literally did her debut in PowerPoint. Now they have short animations and shit.

>>107989773
They've streamlined the ability to get concerts and there's more sololives than ever.
In general, they're more aggressive when it comes to promoting and utilizing underperformers and they've made strides in making sure everybody gets represented and brought into the holo ecosystem with their own share of its popularity.
For example, every single holoJP mem has above 1 million subscribers.
NijiJP has 8. If you lag behind in Nijisanji, you're fucked and will never get any aid in catching up to the pack.

>>107985676
Technology company using VTubers as a tech demo.

>>107989773
Managerial structure
The disparity between how do and doesn't get 3D lives
The level of support individual gens get
Really, you can just down a list of the old "Things_cover_should_do.txt" post from /jp/ and see they've actually done most of that shit

>>107989976
>ability to get concerts
that's not really true there are less concerts this year because the studio is full all the time even tho they keep spending money on more studios

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>>107990596
>104 3D lives in 2025
>94 3D lives in 2024
>95 3D lives in 2023
>91 3D lives in 2022
>63 3D lives in 2021
>28 3D lives in 2020 (some were lost in the holocaust, so the correct number is hard to determine)
This excludes Holostars.
Also he said they had more sololives than before, not 3D lives.
So you are wrong either way.

>>107991200
>104 3D lives in 2025
most of those are just flowglow, regloss and gen 3. individually they get less and less 3d lives each years some don't even get anniversary 3d now. also solo lives don't count because they paid everything by themselves

>Announce LYRA before she leaves
>LYRA consist of ERB Mori and Risu, well known whores
Real reason Kanata is leaving is she refuse to be forced into a unit with homocollabing whores.

>>107991508
Most of those are just
>flowglow --- 1 3D live
>regloss --- 8 3D lives
>gen 3 --- 5 3D lives
Name a talent who didn't get 3D live this year.

>>107991508
NTA but
>most of those are just flowglow, regloss and gen 3
Not only is this moving the goalpost but you just said some that's provable
Flowglow didn't even get 3D until a fucking month ago lmao

>>107991909
>Name a talent who didn't get 3D live this year
I didn't say they don't get 3d lives I'm saying they get less 3d lives. holos used to get minimum 2 3d lives like anniversary and birthday but they only one now

>>107992068
Well yeah, because there are more talents.
But the overall number of 3D lives are mostly the same.
What is your point, even?

>>107992146
but they have more studios now so why doesn't that balance the more members?

>>107992239
Those studios need staff to operate them.

>>107992433
don't they have like hundreds of staffs? even more than niji? and even now they keep spending more resources for staffs but still not enough?

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>>107985676
>metaverse
>tcg
>social media app
>record label
>videogame publisher
>3D studio animation (hologra)
>3D motion capture management
>avatar design procurement
>event planning
>logistics (which goes from renting venues to procuring merch)
>sponsorship administration
>legal framework
There may be some stuff I forgot

>>107992655
Studio staff have more specific requirements than manager staff. It's not that hard to understand.
One live 3D per year is better for the girls anyway. Some were forced to make 2 because everyone else did it.

>>107992708
that sure is a list for wasting money on some useless as shits

>>107992772
>they don't do anything
>well they do, but it's useless
You must be retarded.

>>107992726
>Studio staff have more specific requirements than manager staff
then why not hire them more? and what does talent manger even do? some holos have like 2 or more and they're still overworked.

>>107992879
>they're still overworked.
But at the same time, you want them to have 2 live3D concerts per year.
Just stop it.

>>107992068
>holos used to get minimum 2 3d lives like anniversary and birthday
Well yea but that also came the expense of some girls getting ZERO lives because the studio would be booked-up
Would you rather everyone get at LEST one Solo 3D live and a gen live, or some girls get multiple solo 3D live while other girls get fucked over? the choice is pretty easy imo

>>107992921
some talents want to do 3d lives but they can't because the studio is full all the time. what they don't want to do is paperwork

>>107985676
Pay people to go into unrelated threads and talk about holo for no reason

>>107993059
>paperwork
Not sure what paperwork you think they are doing, but they have to have multiple meetings, and after than learn choreo. And that's before doing the actual concert. Those are things that take time.

>>107992949
but they got bigger studio now why is it overbooked? what are they using the studio for?

>>107993107
has it occurred to them that this would make me less likely to watch them, not more
holobronies are almost as obnoxious as nijisisters

>>107993107
awww the little phasefag is still mad.

>>107993306
I understand for choreo but meeting are useless and it just waste talents time for no reason. and even so holos still want to do 3d concerts for their fans but cover doesn't let them

>>107992772
You sound like the kind of super expendable guy who is convinced that without him pushing the button the place would fall apart.

>>107993575
>meeting are useless
How do you determine what to do in the 3D live? They show up at the studio and start rolling?

>>107993628
most of the meetings aren't about what the talents want it's what cover want

>>107993397
>why is it overbooked?
Because there are more talents/talents with 3D models now than there has been before
>what are they using the studio for?
3D lives nigga lmao, how do look at the YoY growth as soon in >>107991200's post and question what the studio is being used for?
That number is likely going to grow next year as well considering Justice and Flowglow have 3D now, and they'll likely debut a new gen in 2026

>>107985676
>do they do anything?
your mom

>>107987321
>Twisty Amanozako was terminated by Nijisanji due to her refusal of hush money by Nijisanji to excuse Aster Arcadia's harassment and potential attempted rape of known Nijisanji women, while Aster was instead quietly "separated" and had his career and reputation protected from his own actions.
Yeah definitely wasn't the tirade she went on about her fans. Its all Niji, and none of it lies in the 2 viewer mentality she had.

>>107993834
>Because there are more talents/talents with 3D models now than there has been before
even with the smaller studio they used to get guaranteed 2 concerts.the studio is much bigger now and there are only like 8 new members so I don't see how it's full all the time

>Enter thread
>Its one schizo samefagging and crying about nijisanji again

>>107986349
>>107987321
>>107986785
>>107987412
You really just be saying shit.

>>107985676
I think cover as a company is pure dogshit but they are the bindings that allow my oshis to do funny stuff together so I'm fine with them

>>107992146
>Well yeah, because there are more talents.
lmao. niji has more livers than there's holo staff members and even they can produce more 3D content weekly. holo has no excuse.

>>107994659
this holos made the cover what it is today and they're treating them like slaves

>>107994467
They need the space for their holoearth staff meetings.

>>107994518
they can't fathom the idea of someone like nijisanji so much, they would redebut years after graduating. they're just too stuck in their echo chamber mindset to even see it.

>>107985676
Takes money from holos while making them go outside of the company whenever they actually have ambitions

>>107993834
>Because there are more talents/talents with 3D models now than there has been before
Should've gotten a bigger studio. It's a shame honestly. They made the talents shill their new studio yet they can't even use it.

>>107994736
And what percentage of your talents actually get 3D content?
If we want to discuss Hololive’s problems, one major issue is that, unlike Nijisanji, they seem to believe that if something is given to one talent, it must be granted to everyone. If their best singer holds a concert, then even the weakest singer is expected to have one as well. If someone gets a personal manager, then everyone is supposed to have their own. That is why they never fix the problem.

>>107994736
it's crazy niji is better company than hololive now in just one year.

>>107985676
They generously give the girls interest free loans so they can go into debt for projects which Cover still profits from.

>>107994467
>even with the smaller studio they used to get guaranteed 2 concerts.
No they didn't anon, nothing was "guaranteed" that shit was just a mixture of pure lucky/favoritism as we already established
You can't keep going "B-but they used have two!!!" while ignoring the elephant in the room that meant some Holos were being allowed to book OVER other Holos, often members of the foreign branches
A good example of this is in 2023 when Mori booked a date for birthday way back in middle of 2022 only to told she got bump off for some unnamed Holo, shit like that doesn't happen anymore and that's objectively a good thing
> are only like 8 new members so I don't see how it's full all the time
Cuz you're ignoring how EN/ID didn't have 3D until 2022 and that they've released like 4 new Holostar gens during that period as well

>>107991200
>This excludes Holostars.
It might as well include them. They barely get anything or rent their own.

>>107994642
That's not a source, anon.
That's just nijiseethe

>>107994736
>they can produce more 3D content weekly.
And how many of the members actually get included in that 3D content?

why do you hater what you won't ever understand... cover, anycolor, phase and others, you will never see the contracts so you can never be in the knowing if they are bad or good.

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>>107995567
>And how many of the members actually get included in that 3D content?
Anyone who has free time and has their 3D.

>>107985917
>All it took was a a fat chink threatening suicide to make AnyColor and Riku to be slightly better than they were before
Fuck...