this one
>>108041088
I'm not using a thread with a fucking Niji as OP, that's for sure.
A friend gifted me some game called Surroundead for christmas, gonna play that before i go get some sleep i've been up too long, have fun dealing with the insane mintard anons, don't fall for his tricks he's just a nijinigger anyway
sigh………… i guess i'll use kiara thread………
autofister soon
god why do so many nijiniggers have these generic soulless black-haired "salaryman" models
we wanted a nimi tread
Man, I just remembered that guy that had an image "compiling" everyone who said that Saba was going to be inactive in a couple monthsHe was talking some good shit in July, wonder what he thinks now.
>>108041169this so much this! Nimi cute
>>108041146give it to me straight anons, is it worth it to download 50 shades of grey
>>108041208phased
>>108041220No, not really.Just listen to Ceci and Gigi flirting instead.
Not using the niji thread
>>108041185She's not inactive. She did retweets on the 3rd of this month.
Only selenfag hates mint here
Why is the gnarly cover out for some people but not for me?
>>108041252Only Selenfag defends ex-Nijis here
Why did miko KAWB out duing he recent stream
>>108041286If you think selenfag defends ex-niji you must be new. His melties in her thread are legendary. Just look up avatarfag in the archives
>>108041272probably timezone shenanigans, no dice for west coast US
>>108041252true, mint hang out with biboo offstreams, they are like best friends, she is more holo material than 2025 mythpromise, justice, and half of advent
>>108041346This but unironically. If anyone is going to get nepohired into holo, it's mint. She's friends with half the en girls, fwmc especially will vouch for her
>>108041313I don't give a fuck, I'm free to hate mint as much as I want
>>108041313nah his #1 priority is shitting on holo so if he can pretend Mint is holo-adjacent he'll pinch his nose and do it
i would take 10 nimis over 1 saba
kek poor rionahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksEEj5EeYfA
>>108041383he is doing it right now>>108041346>>108041378
wow you guys hate lulu more than kiara?yuck
>>108041383Nah if there's one thing he's genuinely been consistent in, it's his hate for mint specifically. Not even because she was niji, just because of her past experiences.
>>108041378i'm not being ironic, she likes and jerk off to Blue Archive doujin while more than half of ENs are craving cocks, she is just that based
>>108041393Kill yourself cuck. Nimi is a boring talentless whore. The worst you could say about Saba is that she doesn't stream.
>>108041410The lowest common denominator of Hololive is superior than even the best Niji.
>>108041272>>108041325it works when I switch VPN to Japan btw
you can hate him but the mint guy is right mint will get hired by hololive eventually, you fags need to accept that but when it happens you will just do a 180 and defend mint anyway so it doesn't really matter anyway
>>108041410I like Lulu and I like Kiara more. I doubt you can comprehend that though.
>>108041446Why are you getting angry at your own shitpost attempt
>>108041442gnarly is a whore song anyone who sings it is a whore
>>108041446600 Euros LOL
>>108041379I thought you said you were going to play a game
>>108041446I think most of us are just waiting for mint to get into holo at this point
Jurard is busy?
>>108041410More like no one here speaks Japanese and thinks NijiEN represents Nijisanji as a whole. Terminal case of EOPagpag.
>>108041424>The worst you could say about Saba is that she doesn't stream.even when she streams she's completely devoid of passion and simply goes through the motionsdoesn't help that everything she does/says has to be filtered through the barriers her brain created between saba and herselfher collabs where she bounces off someone else are good tho
>>108041446if you check the chat overlap you will see most HoloENs viewers are Mint viewers, WE love her already
>>108041514Both branches rape women, what's exactly the difference? One drugs them first?
>>108041515The moments of just random silence in her streams is what makes me feel like she just straight up gave up
>>108041446why would she even join hololive at this point?
>>108041076100k by holos in 20251. Holo new year afterparty (hololive/01-01)2. Pekomama Collab (Pekora/01-01)3. Mikorone part 1 (Miko/02-01)4. Mikorone part 2 (Korone/03-01)5. Ceres Fauna graduation (Fauna/03-01)6. Gomaku tourney draft (Miko/04-01)7. Gomoku tourney part 1 (Miko/05-01)8. 4th gen 3Dlive (hololive/05-01)9. Gomoku tourney part 2 (Miko/05-01)10. Janken tourney (Pekora/11-01)11. Pekora Bday 3D Live (Pekora/12-01)12. New years games festival (Towa/13-01)13. HoloX anniversary 3DLive (hololive/19-01)14. Sakamata Chloe graduation 3DLive (Chloe/26-01)15. Peko Vs Marine clubhouse game 51 (Pekora/02-02)16. Holo typing speed contest (Miko/01-03)17. Oozora Subaru anniversary 3D Live (Subaru/02-03)18. Sakura Miko Bday 3DLive (Miko/05-03)19. Murasaki Shion graduation announcement (Shion/06-03)20. Color Rise Harmony 1st Stage (hololive/08-03)21. Color Rise Harmony 2nd Stage (hololive/08-03)22. Color Rise Harmony 3rd Stage (hololive/09-03)23. Nanashi Mumei graduation announcement (Mumei/28-03)24. REGLOSS mini UNREAL 3D Live (hololive DEV_IS/30-03)25. Sakura Miko 2D Live debut (Miko/01-04)26. Inugami Korone Anniversary 3D Live (Korone/13-04)27. Gawr Gura graduation announcement (Gura/16-04)28. Otonose Kanade Bday 3D Live (Kanade/20-04)29. Amane Kanata Bday 3D Live (Kanata/22-04)30. Murasaki Shion Graduation 3D Live (Shion/26-04)31. Nanashi Mumei Graduation (Mumei/28-04)32. Gawr Gura Graduation (Gura/01-05)33. Which hololive member loves Subaru the most? (Marine/01-05)34. Spring Hololive Member Counseling Session(Subaru/06-05)35. Animal Tower Battle tournament (Lui/18-05)36. Miko Switch 2 lottery (Miko/03-06)37. Tsunomaki Watame Bday 3DLive (Watame/06-06)38. Todoroki Hajime Bday 3DLive (Hajime/07-06)39. Takane Lui Bday 3DLive (Lui/11-06)40. Sakura Miko Switch 2 lottery 4 (Miko/17-06)41. Kazama Iroha Bday 3DLive (Iroha/18-06)42. Sakura Miko Switch 2 GET announcement (Miko/22-06)43. AZKi Bday 3DLive (AZKi/01-07)44. Oozora Subaru Bday event (Subaru/02-07)45. Pekomama holomem totsumatchi (Pekora/16-07)46. Houshou Marine Bday 3DLive (Marine/30-07)47. Guess which holomem the present is from? (Miko/03-08)48. Best loser Smash tournament (Miko/06-08)49. Usada Pekora 6th Anniversary 3D Live (Pekora/31-08)50. Nakiri Ayame 7th Anniversary 3D Live (Ayame/03-09)51. Shishiro Botan Bday 3DLive (Botan/08-09)52. PekoLamy watermelon exploding offcollab (Pekora/15-09)53. Shirakami Fubuki Bday 3DLive (Fubuki/05-10)54. Holokoshien 2025 (Koyori/26-10)55. #3rd Hololive Fitness King Championship (Lamy/29-10)56. Anti Slaying stream (Miko/01-11)57. Flow Glow 3D debut (DEV_IS FlowGlow/23-11)58. Momotaro legends PekoSoraShubaNene collab (Pekora/23-11)59. Shirogane Noel Bday 3D Live (Noel/24-11)60. Amane Kanata Graduation announcement (Kanata/02-12)61. Amane Kanata zatsudan (Kanata/03-12)62. Sakura Miko vs FUWAMOCO Japanese battle (Miko/06-12)63. Hololive Super Bomberman tournament (Noel/ 14-12)64. PekoVivi 3D offcollab (Pekora/17-12)65. Christmas Party endurance (Pekora/24-12)66. Sakura Miko Christmas 3DLive (Miko/25-12)67. Christmas party variety 3D (Fubuki/25-12)68. Kanata last totsu (Kanata/26-12) # of 100k streams last year: 58
>>108041552But enough about Mel's manager.
Why do they hate her? I don't get it
>>108041514On the other hand there are people like you who get genuinely upset that people dislike Nijisanji. Not NijiEN, but all of Nijisanji with few exceptions (in my case, Lulu).You saw that last thread when fans went ballistic trying to assert Nijisanji's superiority over hololive.
I like masturbate to NTR gamesBut i hate when shiori collab with jurard
>>108041570100k by holos in 2025 (graduation related removed)>Jan1. Holo new year afterparty (hololive/01-01)2. Pekomama Collab (Pekora/01-01)3. Mikorone part 1 (Miko/02-01)4. Mikorone part 2 (Korone/03-01)5. Gomaku tourney draft (Miko/04-01)6. Gomoku tourney part 1 (Miko/05-01)7. 4th gen 3Dlive (hololive/05-01)8. Gomoku tourney part 2 (Miko/05-01)9. Janken tourney (Pekora/11-01)10. Pekora Bday 3D Live (Pekora/12-01)11. New years games festival (Towa/13-01)>Feb12. Peko Vs Marine clubhouse game 51 (Pekora/02-02)>Mar13. Holo typing speed contest (Miko/01-03)14. Oozora Subaru anniversary 3D Live (Subaru/02-03)15. Sakura Miko Bday 3DLive (Miko/05-03)16. Color Rise Harmony 1st Stage (hololive/08-03)17. Color Rise Harmony 2nd Stage (hololive/08-03)18. Color Rise Harmony 3rd Stage (hololive/09-03)19. REGLOSS mini UNREAL 3D Live (hololive DEV_IS/30-03)>Apr20. Sakura Miko 2D Live debut (Miko/01-04)21. Inugami Korone Anniversary 3D Live (Korone/13-04)22. Otonose Kanade Bday 3D Live (Kanade/20-04)23. Amane Kanata Bday 3D Live (Kanata/22-04)>May24. Which hololive member loves Subaru the most? (Marine/01-05)25. Spring Hololive Member Counseling Session(Subaru/06-05)26. Animal Tower Battle tournament (Lui/18-05)>Jun27. Miko Switch 2 lottery (Miko/03-06)28. Tsunomaki Watame Bday 3DLive (Watame/06-06)29. Todoroki Hajime Bday 3DLive (Hajime/07-06)30. Takane Lui Bday 3DLive (Lui/11-06)31. Sakura Miko Switch 2 lottery 4 (Miko/17-06)32. Kazama Iroha Bday 3DLive (Iroha/18-06)33. Sakura Miko Switch 2 GET announcement (Miko/22-06)>Jul34. AZKi Bday 3DLive (AZKi/01-07)35. Oozora Subaru Bday event (Subaru/02-07)36. Pekomama holomem totsumatchi (Pekora/16-07)37. Houshou Marine Bday 3DLive (Marine/30-07)>Aug38. Guess which holomem the present is from? (Miko/03-08)39. Best loser Smash tournament (Miko/06-08)40. Usada Pekora 6th Anniversary 3D Live (Pekora/31-08)>Sep41. Nakiri Ayame 7th Anniversary 3D Live (Ayame/03-09)42. Shishiro Botan Bday 3DLive (Botan/08-09)43. PekoLamy watermelon exploding offcollab (Pekora/15-09)>Oct44. Shirakami Fubuki Bday 3DLive (Fubuki/05-10)45. Holokoshien 2025 (Koyori/26-10)46. #3rd Hololive Fitness King Championship (Lamy/29-10)>Nov47. Anti Slaying stream (Miko/01-11)48. Flow Glow 3D debut (DEV_IS FlowGlow/23-11)49. Momotaro legends PekoSoraShubaNene collab (Pekora/23-11)50. Shirogane Noel Bday 3D Live (Noel/24-11)>Dec51. Sakura Miko vs FUWAMOCO Japanese battle (Miko/06-12)52. Hololive Super Bomberman tournament (Noel/ 14-12)53. PekoVivi 3D offcollab (Pekora/17-12)54. Christmas Party endurance (Pekora/24-12)55. Sakura Miko Christmas 3DLive (Miko/25-12)56. Christmas party variety 3D (Fubuki/25-12)# of 100k streams last year (graduation related removed): 50
>>108041554those are the panic attacks where she gets self conscious and spirals into madness and knows she has the eyes of 100000s of people on her
I love NTR
>>108041169>>108041217Fuck off Cucks.
>>108041076*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*>https://playboard.co/en/>http://ikioi-ranking.com/>https://vrabi.net/>https://www.vstats.jp>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking>https://vt.poi.cat/Hololive sites>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html>https://trackholo.live/en/>https://holo-spotify-stats.jirikunes.eu/Twitch sites>https://sullygnome.com/>https://twitchtracker.com/>https://stats.roki.sh/>https://streamscharts.com/
>Hololive has rape cases too you know!>PLEASE LET MINT IN HOLOLIVE REEEEEEEMintbeggars aren't sending their best
>>108041591I really don't want you to kill yourself, but low IQ cretins like you really make my blood boil.
>NIMI BAD MINT GOOD I MAKE LE 600 EUROS HON HON HON
>>108041588Hahahahahaha, you're patheticTook 4 years to resolve a stalking case and it wasn't even resolved anyway, I fucking love Rapeisanji
>>108041422Ya the offpaco with Luca and all the other niji boys was so based
>>108041589Too big to groom and control because of Holo
>>108041629>>108041654seethe all you want mint is joining hololive
>>108041654Mint good nimi good
>>108040744Kek he really is here
>>108041514A nijinigger is a nijinigger no matter what language he speaks, the only thing that has changed with nijiEN is showing the world that even branches who hate each other will behave the same way
>>108041515>>108041554I don't think she "gave up" or "has no passion left", I think she genuinely wants to do everything she's talked about and to stream and communicate more, but she gets too much in her head. She's mostly alone now with no support and no one to hold her accountable. Nothing to prove, and no drive since she already reached her milestones.
>>108041630Upset about bring called out? Or because you spent the majority of today defending Nijisanji to no avail? Or are you just upset that your beloved Nijis also love hololive?
>Yeah, whenever i watch niji's collab, official program, etc, where male and female talents are interacting like a perfectly normal human being, it saddens me that I can't experience the same thing in holo. >I'm pretty sure a collab between the boys and the onee-sans will be 100% more entertaining than the normal all girls collab, i don't even watch the girls anymore and completely moved to Vspo for female vtubers and Holostars for the boys.
>>108041593NTR games and porn can be hotHomocollabs aren't NTR however, and is just bringing an annoying charisma black hole into what is supposedly supposed to be funIt's like if you grabbed some tone-deaf 1view and made them perform with holos, except without it being a girl it isn't cute
>>108041605what the fuck, it's 73 hours long?
>>108041750Ewww....
>>108041630Nijiseethe
Always the shareholders narratifve>It's the unfortunate truth. Cover has large expenses (2B studio and Holo EN HQ expansion) on top of operating costs that as a corporation they need to recoup funds from. Until Cover can recoup those funds, measures have to be taken to cut costs in other areas so we see things like lack of support from managers or lives/merch being cut. Expect those to continue for the time being. The boys are talented but for whatever reason, viewers mainly care to throw their interest and money at the girls so the stars aren't a big revenue stream for Cover so they are allocated less resources. >If it was someone other than YAGOO calling the shots then there's a good chance that holostars would've already been cut in its entirety. I'm sure he's been getting pressure from shareholders to cut holostars since Cover became a public corporation.
>>108041750Where is this from?
>>108041787It's interesting how these people never consider themselves the "viewers"
>>108041787stars makes a couple million a year they pay for themselves there is literally no reason to cut the branch
>>108041750At some point niggers like this need to step back and question WHY they fetishize co-ed so much
>>108041750Hey that reads like a falseflag posted hereI honestly don't believe homobeggars are sincere, they're just angry and using other VTubers as ammunition in their crusade to defeat the great evil blue dorito
>>108041817A couple million what, ARS?
>>108041076Kiara!
>>108041750
>Nijinigger is madTime for him to spam MUH HOLO CLIQUES next
>>108041787The studio was already paid for by the IPO, the current price of stocks have no bearing on the money they bring it, and only would truly matter if they do a full buyback and re-privatize although the benefits of doing so are minimal currently All current expansion expenses and operating expenses are covered as they're currently growing YoY in revenue which also allows for better talent remuneration as we've seen in the reports, and in the case of homos they are net neutral at worst because the operating costs of painting a vtuber that just streams is absolutely minimal and chump change, each being able to be covered by their middling superchats at leastBut homos won't be getting more than they deserve unless they put effort in and make some growth happen, so unless they reinvest money, time, and effort into being worth ANYTHING, then they will remain in the broom closet, free to quit if they aren't happy with the opportunity for growth
>>108041907Followed by "Kanata Fans/Heimins" are going to destroy Hololive by graduationbegging other girls, brought to you by his favorite Matomes. Source: Trust me bro!!
>>108041654>600€but this guy is a nousagi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSvBObuDLh8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSvBObuDLh8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSvBObuDLh8
Imagine being born and raised in the slums of Manila, you go to the Pagpag Market to feed your family, and then you blow off steam by doing mental gymnastics for Nijisanji as if it's a sport
>>108041987He's a Nijinigger, don't lie. He gets very angry when you insult his mancrush Kuzuha
>>108041787LE SHAREHOLDERO DE MUERTA
>>108042051EL SILENCIO DE LOS ACCIONISTAS
>>108041817>>108041939What actually IS the cost of the homos for Cover?Let's say 10 staff people. maybe some perms for songs like snow halation. The studio?
>>108042168They're now outsourcing Homo studio work to some dingy chinese studioI think the only cost is reputational. Like, these assholes act like manchildren, don't get any sponsors and don't act Holo-like at all, that's the real cost.
>>108042168Don't think they even need much staff. Don't need a manager if you never do anything.
>>108042168I wouldn't say the guaranteed one day of studio time is quantifiable without deep cost analysis, but as for their staff, they're paid a salaryman's wage in yen so not much honestly
>>108041758you scared of words anon? It just means that it has a lot of routes you have to read to reach the true ending
>>108042219The game their staff made had 6 names on it and it was made when they had 6 talents, so I assume now they have about 10 people. One manager per guy, one branch manager, and some other random staff.
>>108042195>They're now outsourcing Homo studio work to some dingy chinese studioWasn't there a schizo theory that this studio was fake?
>>108042363Someone desperately wanted it to be some secret cover subsidiary using the old studio for some reason
>>108042327Holos don't have individual managers and homos have?
>>108042516I mean, they did in 2023. Maybe 1-2 of the people weren't precisely managers but were doing other stuff, but 6 people had 6 staff members called -mane.
Bad news: Shiori is shrinking her tits.
kroni more kotni
>>108042633NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>108042651fake shit shes done a whole video about debunking your claims
>>108042633Flaygon will be sad
So what is Saba up to?
>>108042678stop
>>108042710At this point I'm really starting to believe it's health shit because if it was a grift then she would have at least wrote a fucking tweet
green woman be lik
>>108042751if thats a woman then surely you can show me her real vagina
I love my little wife Gigi Murin and I will do everything in my hand to make her happy, including, but not limited to, bedbreaking mindboggling sex.
>>108042771whats a vagina?
john...
>>108042791I want to fill her full of semen.
>>108042843calm down gigi
what are the best streams to watch from the holo christmas karaoke relay? i dont have that much time
>>108042922they are all unarchived
>>108042977are you dumb im watching watames right now, i mean jps i caught ens
>>108042922nimi
>>108042922Kyun Kyun Miko Kyun~
Got my entire Google account banned because I said a country's name on youtube. Now I can't access my work emails. The support is useless as always sending me in looping chats with AI. Fuckng epic
>>108043025What?HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
>>108043025lol what
>>108043025anon...
>>108043025
>>108043025Trannystan is not a real country lol
>>108043025Based
>>108043025This nigga said UZBEKISTAN and Google shot him....
>>108043025lmao fucking deserved
>>108043025Serves you right, Pebblefag
>>108043025Niger only has one g anon
>>108043025should have gone instead for their CHAD neighbors, anon
>>108043025>revealing your powerleveldeserved>>108043066What about GochiUzbekistan?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYKrCAmKoOU
>>108043025>shitposting on mainretard deserves it
>2023 had the shuffle medley kino>2024 was full of group kino>2025 is literally just gens performing the latest (at the time) genslopWhat the fuck is this shit man.
>>108043025What the fuck did you even say?
>>108043120I WILL DEFEND MY RIGHT TO LISTEN TO THE NIGI NIJI DANCESeesh.
When did /ggg/ get so slow? Did most kaniki moved to tower?
>>108043141If I say it here I'll get banned too
>>108043154Most sane people moved to towa
>>108043154/ggg/ is quite literally being used as a post to prevent schizos from spilling into Tower, the baker downright said so.It's a containment thread inside a containment board.
>>108043163flip schizo out for xmas or something, same thing with our thread i guess
>>108043120I don't see why they didn't shuffle the songs. Worse, they told us exactly who would sing what and in exactly which order, which is part of the fun of the countdown live. Whoever is in charge this year needs to be fired before next year's countdown live planning
>>108043214>Worse, they told us exactly who would sing what and in exactly which orderThis happened in both 2022 and 2023 you dumb Advent tourist
>>108043025wait you can get your entire google account ban?what did you even say?
>>108043163Deserved then, you retard. I hope Google support AI fucks you over until you're fired.
>>108043237I don't remember knowing exactly which girls would sing which song at which slot. If that is the case>implying regression is a good thing
>>108039034
>>108043295>Ceci's never getting marriedYay>This includes GigiDamn
>>108043363Also what is it with Holo girls and just downright renouncing to marriage
>Nerissa had a date with Nenechi today
Always makes me laugh that saying a country name gets deleted with speed in this thread, but I have never seen a shitpost get deleted from my split that wasn't from the dude getting banned elsewhere and having every post nuked.
>>108043414jp holos are just finein general it's just another white girl epidemic pushed by (((them))) to eradicate white people
>>108043437Which split is that
>>108043414They don't need marriage if they have loyal fans, they don't age either so they got nothing to lose really.
>>108043503All of them lol
>>108041758OF PURE KINO and a lot of rape like a lot all sex scenes are rape kek
>>108043503Literally every split except saba's and phase's. /baubau/ occasionally gets some too because of just how bad it can get there.
>>108043363>Ceci's never getting marriedShe didn't say that though, also if you look at what it's replying to you would get the opposite(assuming she's even talking about that)
>>108043437One of the main schizos in /HiRyS/ eventually gets deleted if reported enough, but it does sometimes take hours... and then he just ban evades and we're back to square one
>>108042228man… why did fwmc drop it? well i think i know why but those streams were so comfy
>>108043163now you are just making shit up
Today, I will remind them.https://youtu.be/umRELhMoI3I?t=131
>>108043573He probably said the ikea country in the comment section of saba's last vod and was mass reported for doxxing by her fans. That's why you don't shitpost on main,
i wanna fuck vivi so much
>>108043623calm down peggers
>>108043555
>>108043636I would kneel if vivi managed to turn peko gay
>>108043568I wouldn't be surprised if it the same case as my split where he was just banned elsewhere for something mods care about. Schizos rarely stay in one thread. Literally every single delete I've seen in my thread for months had delete times that lines up with other shit outside the thread.
Now who's ready for some motherfucking CCGG
>>108043669>bibi turns peko gay>invites marine, miko, peko to a foursome
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuEsGynglhEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuEsGynglhEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuEsGynglhE
gimurin, murinfuckers
>>108043289why is this deleted?why cant you say sweden?what?
Seriously, the IRyS one is still sold out while the others are available??https://undone.com/collections/hololive-en-party2gether/products/party2gether-irys
LETS GOOOO
my sisters watched this movie when I was little.they didn't let me watch, so i had to go to sleep, i always wondered what the FUCK is up with 50 shades of grey
they are already de-associating themselves from this
>>108043667?Just watch the clip in the reply if you want toI don't even think she was talking about that anyway
WHERE IS MY FUCKING SKETCH AT THE BEGINNING OF THE STREAM
>>108043743How the fuck is 50 shades of grey something you can even react to on Youtube?It's literally a porno.
the FUCK is she doing here
>>108043751They made less.
>>108043699>miko, pekoHISTORY REPEATS ITSELF
>>108043787theres nothing on screen
>Sharing foodCute.
>eating cc's mints>PET PLAY (because when cc eats mint it makes a sound and gg starts salivating)>gg normally eating straight from ccs hands (back then)what hte fuck
>>108043793biboo was raided yesterday too