The intern losing Ina's streaming permission form (on a physical paper in a japanese office) has to be up there.

>>108128673
Oh and failing to renew Ina's work visa lmfao

Mumei's throat.
I'll never forgive Cover for fucking up her throat so much.
She chooses to not use her mic these days...

Squandered holotori.
After holotori dance did well they could have milked it for cheap acrylic stands and given in another go until it fizzled out naturally. But they just ignored it.
So that's bad because they screwed over the talents and screwed themselves out of revenue.

>>108129515
>request a full vocal rest
>uhm nvm we need some "homework" from you

Platformed and put money in the hands of fascist J.K. Rowling.

>>108128638
Making Sana lie to her fans about her health, if indeed they did that.
A lot of members have throat issues, I don't know if it's their own stupidity and carelessness or if managers are driving them hard, but Cover should do something about it.

I feel like a lot of the bullshit is "optional", but the more shy, timid members are afraid to stand firm and say no, so management ends up heaping all the shit upon the members with the weakest character.

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>>108129515
>I'll never forgive Cover for fucking her throat so much.

>>108128638
It depends what you consider bad or good. Some Holodrones would give their mother to cover.

>>108128638
>HLZNTL
We all know how that went, thank the stars for crushing the girls and killing the project.

>switching streaming provider to zan for holosummer concert
We all saw how that crashed and burned when they should have stayed with the same ones that have been working for years.
Cover loves to run with idea guys suggestions and waste their money implementing their shit without thinking much about it. It always ends up failing too, you have people looking to make a name for themselves and the talents are only a vehicle for that and it does show.

>>108128638
Creating Holostars.
Nothing else they done was even close to this evil.

>>108128638
Never paying their workers. Like their artists or Haachama

>>108128638
Firing Mel. After that is fucking up multiple members work visas preventing from streaming for weeks/months. Also fucking Mumei over because they knew she was leaving so they didn't do anything for her like the 3D outfit she asked for.

>>108132019
Losing Coco and Rushia had unfortunate repercussions too.

>>108128638
I feel like you'd get a more active thread with Niji or something.
As far as "worst" things Cover's done, they're all milquetoast at best.
None really compare to serving up victims to a drugging rapist YAB or pushing a girl to suicide because she working so efficiently she was making your staff look bad.

>>108128638
HoloEarth is the single worst mistake that Cover has made in terms of financial loss but having 7 graduations in 2025 is a close second because of how much it damaged their reputation. No one is spending thousands on digital merch in HoloEarth if they don't like the Hololive brand name.

>>108130132
>Making Sana lie to her fans about her health, if indeed they did that.
They definitely made Sana lie about having heath issues to explain the months of "health" breaks along with her sudden graduation. Sana was similar to Ina and Kronii in that she clearly didn't want a sexualized vtuber design. Contract fights starting only a month after her debut would make sense if Cover actually told her she would never get a model redesign.

>>108131596
>or Haachama
Didn't she release something like six covers all in a short span? There's no way that shit was cheap.

>>108131397
obsessed

>>108129593
https://youtu.be/gno229GWACs
IT'S NOT FAIR

Doing IRyS's throat dirty.

>>108128638
Hiring Kiara.

>>108130340
Uh have you seen her IRL pics? She's genuinely a 2/10, would not cry for her like you are

>>108132767
She has something like 6 covers and 3 orisongs within a year, actually more than that because Doll and Ito aren't even on her youtube page. Add to that dance shorts, travel content, the 3D live, more. It's a weird situation because she's clearly been pressured and is working hard to find some new direction, but everything seems disjointed from any kind of higher strategy. Branding and promotion is exactly what Hololive could help her with, same with pacing her content financially, but it's like she's got no management whatsoever. Aside from shitposting 'your fault', I don't understand it at all

>>108133368
Not firing Bae.

Everything that happened between HoloEN in 2022 and 2023 (up until Advent). Times were fucking dark

>>108129515
I know they ruined IRyS' throat, but I thought Mumei got a chronic cough and I don't see how that would be Cover's fault

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>>108128638
Hiring Shiori and giving her one of the hottest models in the entire company. In fact, Shiori herself is trying to debuff the model by reducing her titties, so her being a hire gets worse every passing day.

>>108133747
The model she nerfed was unironically an outfit she used a single time for an advent collab which had ridiculously massive tits even when compared to her regular model, not even her official model.

Omega was a big one and highlights a big issue within cover. Management are always trying to insert themselves in the spotlight when no one gives a shit about them, people are here for the talents not the back end workers.

>>108131397
>>108133536
This

>>108129593
Even lamer because it was a great example of talent-born popularity for a unit AND was cross-branch with all three branches. I don't think it's the worst thing Cover has done, but it really sucked that it was fully on the talents to spend money if they wanted to include the others in a psudo-unit for things.

>>108130132
>>108132758
Imagine believing Sana's bullshit when she can fly out to cons and has time to go to the movies 6 times in two weeks.

>>108128638
Subaru's manager deleting all of her old streams instead of setting them to private/unlisted like the others were doing.

>>108133536
It was literaturally the best time in hololive ever

>>108128638
HololiveEN

>>108128638
Ignoring IRyS.
>All those times she had to remind the officilal twitter she was part of a collab
>The years she had to wait for a redesign while missing out on multiple outfits
>That time her sponsored stream "accidentally" had Flayon's code instead
>The way Project Hope was abandoned by Omega
>The fact she was given impossibly songs that hurt her throat

>>108131397
I don't mind homos doing their thing but I genuinely feel bad that they were birthed into this world just to suffer. They're outright ignored if not hated by tons of fans. Plus they get hardly any show space or events to give back to the few fans dedicated to them. They're like fucking sad little orphans who should've never been born. I know some people want them gone because they're "resource leeches", but I just feel bad for them.

>>108128638
I genuinely believe they should've done something to prevent graduated members having successful solo careers.
Sabotage, contracts, anything.
These ungrateful whores should've been stopped when the first one made the successful relaunch.
As soon as dooby became an instant-success, it opened the floodgates. It would've been easy to get her stuff taken down, leak personal info to make her look bad, get her in some sort of legal trouble, anything to keep the other ones in line and show them that they're nothing without the company.

>>108133342
>>108133679
>>108134074
qrd on this song?

>>108128638
You should do this for every coro. Why do you limit it to Holo?

>>108133747
This

>>108134045
explain why

>>108128673
>>108128722
Literally one job.

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>Mio decides to stream Ghost Trick on a modded 3DS with a capture card
>NOBODY tells her anything

>>108128638
everything management sisters did in 2022. the decisions done in that year did irreparable damage to Hololive that is still being felt today.

>>108134025
This is one of many reasons why I don't get invested in corpo chuubas anymore. At least you know it was their decision if they delete their old stuff.
>>108134094
The hate just reeks of misogyny and homophobia to me. Let the boy enjoyers have their boys, fuckin a
>>108134098
Holodrones once again being the worst fucking fanbase

>>108134198
SEA posters being SEA posters

>>108134359
>The hate just reeks of misogyny and homophobia to me. Let the boy enjoyers have their boys, fuckin a
I just pity them because they get it from both sides. The company gives them nothing and many fans loathe them. It's just sad to see them being giga runts next to the girls. Anyway god bless and happy new year.

>>108133989
>Imagine believing Sana's bullshit when she can fly out to cons and has time to go to the movies 6 times in two weeks.
Cover was forcing her to lie about those "health" breaks and why do you think her RM flat out stated that she was completely healthy after her graduation? If anything she was furious with Cover because they wouldn't let her give an honest explanation about her graduation. 2025 has shown that several talents had major disagreements with management.

>>108134074
>>The years she had to wait for a redesign while missing out on multiple outfits
IRyS did have a lot of trouble getting her model redesign but some talents never get one (Sana). Honestly 18 months for a 2.0 redesign isn't that bad when you consider that Ina and Kronii still have the worst default outfits in Hololive.

>>108134288
Isn't that fine? That's how most japanese lets players streamed 3ds games

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>>108134723
>The company gives them nothing
Why lie?

>>108128638
>hiring pro-chinese, pro-niji, pro-troon staff
>going public
>transforming the workplace environment from a fun autistic girl gathering into a corporate shithole
>poor investment planning, HoloEarth is STILL in development after what? 4-5 years?
>opening ID branch
>shit choices for EN hires
>hiring a gorillion managers who don't do shit
and the list goes on

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>>108135016
honestly, new gens joining this quick is making them like, fading into obscurity

>>108135005
Its bad because modding your console is illegal in japan. The fags that reported her to capcom just hated vtubers and it was a convenient weapon to use.

>>108135016
>holofes section
Hololive expo*
Also this year's "section" for them was literally a tiny corner with their standees and literally nothing else, no banner, no art, nothing, just standees of their models.

>>108135119
Won't anyone think about the MONEY?

>>108135150
Cover is slowly shoving them in the closet.

>>108135148
i love you, japan, but between shit like this and the adderall ban i want to smack you really hard

>>108134723
same to you anon

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Letting singular people buy sponsorslop streams

>>108135016
>nijien collab ban removed due to altare's request
Homos really are Cover's biggest mistake

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>>108132019
>lied about Mumei's Nendoroid still being made
>there's a prototype of it out there but it got mothballed because of Cover and GoodSmile both
>on top of that the rest of Promise isn't even out yet
>Fuwamoco able to blaze to the front of the track with no other Advent with them
I'm choosing mostly to blame GoodSmile on this cause they have a very bad habit of announcing things in advance for years, then backburnering it because some isekai bullshit or Koreaslop MMO paid to get to the front of the line first, and then they overproduce it, end up giving all the unsold extras out in the New Year gift gacha, and then bitch and cry when people complain about it.
I ordered the Doki Nendo purely cause Mumei and Doki are IRL friends, and I thought an outfit swap would be cute, and now that dream is fucking dead.

>>108135388
that's sad :(

>>108134818
Snifffffff outfit schizo

>>108133425
Idk why you are going around multiple threads flaming her based on Tumblr pics from when she was 14 but its weird

Getting involved with China

>>108128722
That shit has to be malicious how is Ina still in there

>>108135016
Most of the shit here is nearly 2 years old so you're not disproving at anon's point
Also a LOT of this shit in addendum just straight up ignores swarths of context;
Kiara was pushing to collab with Pomu, long before Altare even debuted
Holo's collab ban in general has been shortened since 2022
Irys's redesign taking longer ignore how Redjuice/Cover randomly dragged their feet, while Pako immediately jumped at the chance to be a papa again

>>108128638
suspending coco and haachama for being harassed by murderous insectoids

>>108134045
this

>>108134137
Omega kept giving her original songs that were hard to sing that hurt her throat.

>>108129593
Based actually. Do not allow Kiara to leech talents

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>>108135916
Nice cope

>>108134074
>>The way Project Hope was abandoned by Omega
This was unironically the best thing to happen for her tho
Not being bound by "Project Hope/"Vsinger" meant she got far more creative control over what music she'd make and also got to officially slotted into Council as their new 5th member

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>>108128638
3D studios seeing limited use and everyone having to outsource on their own wallets is the worst offender.

I firmly believe hoklowitches have killed three talents by itself

>>108136598
I honestly can't believe this is a real thing. Why in any world would an employe have to pay from their own pocket to generate more revenue for the company they work in

>>108136455
>Omega kept giving her original songs that were hard to sing that hurt her throat.
How was it Omega's fault she couldn't sing in that register? That seems like something a suit should not need to be concerned with, only the artistic vision of the IP.
Now, IRyS' talent manager could have asked for adjustments to stay within her range but if that wasn't the product vision then maybe they should have Kizuna AIed IRyS early on with someone who could manage those songs. Not doing so put them at risk.

>>108136825
Better question to ask is why are the holo studios so restrictive? Are they understaffed? Do they not have the right people to handle the 3D production? No one is asking these questions.

>>108137141
They have about 800 employees by the way

>>108136930
>Now, IRyS' talent manager could have
Irys famously had an absolute dogshit manager even by HoloENs standards during that time. That worthless nigger dragged ass on her outfit so hard that Irys had to explicitly mention on stream that it wasn't Redjuices fault that things were taking so long. Among other things mention on members, he was hinted at being worthless about as much as a HoloEN talent is allowed to hint without being forced to naked dogeza and private the vod.

>>108137438
We were 50 when I started in my company.
10 years later it grew to 1100+.
Then I was forced to leave because looking at a computer caused a trauma response in me...

Exceptional people who are used to a certain level of freedom don't take it well...

>>108136930
Anon, troonmega was her manager at the time. He's also the reason why her redesign took two years even though redjuice was ready and willing. All he had to do was sign off on it but he was too busy trying to nijify holoEN.

>>108132758
Kill yourself outfitschizo

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>>108128638
>screwed Mumei out of her one million sub wish
>not allowing Mumei to use the studio for her final 3D
>not keeping their word/lying about Mumei's nendoroid
>deleted Mumei from ENReco despite her still being around
>going after the rest of SNOT that wasn't staying and deleting them from existence (Fauna in ENreco; Gura's statue)
I will NEVER forgive Cover and Mumei isn't even my oshi.

>>108137605
They fucked her over so hard she quit vtubing entirely, I'll never forgive them. She had my favorite singing voice in the entire company and it's a total gamble if I'll ever hear anything new from her again now

>>108136930
They rushed the album because they have no time management skills so they aren't able to accommodate her and instead forced her to destroy her throat to meet the deadlines.

>>108136455
Much worse were the brutal recording sessions. When you work a girl till she breaks and still demand more you're a shitty manager.

>>108137023
>managerial shit show.
That is the best way to describe cover and I don't see them changing anytime soon.

>>108138135
They deleted Mumei's final Owl Pal stream and told her they would delete content from her channel (done after her final 3D) which with the former at least gave a little context to what Mumei was feeling and what some of the graduates might of felt. Like Mumei talking about her one million wish; her really wanting the nendoriod and being scared it won't happen, Mumei talking about how the members not living in Japan were really separated from the going ons or kind of out of the loop.

You add this along with all the other problems from the other graduates and even as a fan you have to admit that things need to change.

>>108137570
titschizo*

>>108132767
She paid all of that herself.

>>108128638
Hiring Flare

>>108140725
This but ERB.

>>108137605
>>screwed Mumei out of her one million sub wish
>>not allowing Mumei to use the studio for her final 3D
Tbqh these are both on Mumei and her not scheduling her graduation when the dates for both of these things would actually be feasible
>>108138135
Also blaming Cover for her quitting vtubing is doublely retarded
If you ever actually watched her it was pretty glaring obvious she was never fully committed being a vtuber for long-term in the first place, she was always a full-time student while in Holo and was/is legitimately interested in the field she was studying for, her family didn't really seem to approve of her having an "internet job" and she unironically lied to them for awhile that she was an Instagram model lol
The cherry on top was her getting COVID and the aftereffect causing her throat to be damaged

>>108136565
Reminder that the only reason Omega stopped breathing down Irys and the rest of the girls necks is because he got "promoted" to being the head of Holostars EN before getting canned shortly before Gen 2's debut.

>>108141852
Nah he was actually the head of the entire EN branch as well of personally over seeing Project Hope
He just got shit canned by HQ in favorite of Dimitri Jap at some point in late 2022/early 2023

>>108137438
600 holo earth employees, 100 marketing, 10 3D staff.

>>108142123
What happened to that Jap dude anyways? People made such a big deal about him

https://x.com/itoridayo/status/1656547823515746304
things that aged like milk

>>108142295
forever camping the cgdct thread.

overwork poor IRyS

>>108128638
go public.

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>>108142185
Only 8% of their staff are working on holoearth, could actually be less

>>108140665
Yes, using her own hard earned funds that she earned by working as a vtuber for Hololive. The funds are from the future. Some kind of "advance salary loan" technology. Alien stuff.

>>108142295
He's still around, the shitposters who dick-sucked him in the past just don't have anything to talk about since both Homos don't really get stuff anymore AND lot of "CGDCT faction" graduated

>>108135148
>The fags that reported her to capcom
The nijiniggers* that reported her to capcom.

>>108143736
Yes fags

>>108134359
>misogyny
*misandry.

>>108142398
you mean /#/?

>>108142432
And now she doesn't do shit: streams maybe once a week for 7 hours to get the quota done, then fucks off doing who knows what. "Singing" holo that's only put out one real album. And no, not counting those that the tranny forced on her since they're trash. Wrecked her voice for years for tripe lol. What a joke. Same with Chloe. It's all so dumb.

>>108142993
It's basically being pimped. Now she's on the hook and owes them. Now those jobs which were "a personal choice" slowly become mandatory as you have debt towards the company and they're garnishing your pay check to collect it back. Want to keep the same standard of living? Well I guess you gotta pick up some sponsorship jobs and shill more.

>>108128638
Objectively? Holoearth. It just... what the fuck are they even doing? Why?? What???

>>108128638
They gave the coolest HoloX model to someone entirely unsuitable for the role
As result, Chloe ditched the mask and the role at her debut
Absolute shame