>councilfags can't let go
>>108166031>anything involving Fauna>peak
It peaked in 2021 when they were locked down and streaming.
>>108166031LOL LMAO
>>108166031Promise is stronger than ever
>>108166392KEKYPOW TRVKE
>>108166031no it peaked in August and early September 2024Breaking Dimensions into ENreco into Myth4ever
Council was a fucking mistake and not a single one of them should have been hired. Sana was a lazy liar who at least had the good grace to bail early instead of trying to hang on and make money. Kronii is a lazy liar who hung on and grifts money.Bae is a loud whore.Fauna is a lying whore who at least streamed but totally skipped the idol part of things which is the one thing Hololive does better than anyone else.Mumei was just never well enough to do anything.
>>108166031NO, EN peaked HERE:
>>108167193More like I peaked here and I'm still peaking
>>108167193This. Debut Advent was amazing. Of course Shiori has gone full retard and Nerissa and FWMC stopped streaming as consistently but for a while they were the best.
>>108167263>Shiori has gone full retardHow so?
>>108167108telly tubby dogs watcher hands typed this post
>>108167533says the actual manchild who suckles on his thumb and watches the fakest women in vtubing
>>108167578Could you repeat that but in English?
>>1081660312022 was such a miserable year for the EN branch with never ending malicious compliance that the Council 3D collab was really an inspirational highlight of 2023. There were a brief few months in 2023 when it looked like things were getting better and even Gura was somewhat optimistic for the future. Cover somehow messed up so horribly in 2024 that 4 of the EN talents (and 5 of the JP talents) made the decision to quit. At the end of 2025 I have absolutely zero faith in management. I think Cover has financial motivations to stop losing talents, because they are also losing fans, but management has shown over and over again that they don't really care about Hololive.>>108166392>Promise is stronger than everThey are still alive but it did hurt for them to lose Sana, Fauna, and Mumei. Ame will return to Myth so they really only lost 1 talent but Council was the first Hololive gen to lose 3 talents.>>108167108>Sana was a lazy liar who at least had the good grace to bail earlySana asked for a model redesign, Cover told her no, and they didn't renew her contract. That demoralized the EN branch and that is when Gura started to skip out on every single holiday collab.
>>108166031>>108166901This. People don't remember, until the debut of Advent things look pretty dire in HoloEN. With Advent they returned back to normal and with Justice they reached the pre-Council level of peak
>>108167108It's Omega's gen, don't forget the fucker unironically tried to slide himself in as a literal god overlord thing. To this day I have no fucking idea where they got the idea we wanted a super heavy lore focused and woke-adjacent signaling group. He did the typical thing many troons do, come in and try to alter the company to his liking and appeal to the customers they wished they had and not the actual customers that delivered the company its success. Which yes is the very success that allowed their own asses to get hired in the first place. It's like hiring vegans to run a steakhouse, what the fuck did they think was going to happen. And yes I am still mad about Omega all these years later because he really did fuck up everything and Council was an awkward runt gen that barely even streamed for like half a year and its only successes are flukes.
>>108166031Hololive has been on a steady decline ever since the Council and IRyS era. Management sisters have truly dropped the ball starting in 2022, leading to one poor decision after another and resources poured into projects that ultimately went nowhere. Advent provided a temporary boost and felt like a much needed patch, but the underlying problems have resurfaced stronger than ever. The core issues that plagued the company back in 2022 remain unaddressed and Yagoon and Cover continue to ignore them, acting as if everything is fine while we can clearly see the issues and feel the growing disconnect.
>>108168371>malicious complianceI like how you can't even type one sentence without outing yourself. Just get a tripcode already.
>>108166031Man I really was in denial still caring about holo when gen 2 released. I only liked Sana and Fauna a bit and the rest were just terrible designs with the most boring nothing personalities moving the puppets.And then everything after feels like when you see that the Simpsons are still airing new seasons each year and they got the only 24 Karat Labubu lady as celebrity guest.Like just fucking stop man. It's way past embarrassing how bad it all became years ago.
>>108167299male collabs
>>108168702The problem wasn't that much in the lore or his megalomania, the problem was that he abandoned Council for HolostarsEN and then pushed the girls to collab with them
>>108169653Ah, so you're delusionalCarry on
>>108169489There were months of malicious compliance in 2022 with several talents going on "health" breaks even before Sana's graduation. The reason that 2022 felt so grim was that it actually got worse in the second half of the year especially after Ina got that stealth suspension. Have no idea why you still defend Cover and there were 7 graduations in 2025 with signs that 6 of them will return as indie vtubers.
>>108169661>then pushed the girls to collab with themLmao. Kroni/bae had the best strreams of their life with Vesper/dezmond. The only thing that held them back were the possessive mentally ill unicorns screeching 24/7.
>>108171957>Lmao. Kroni/bae had the best strreams of their life with Vesper/dezmond.they were there for almost a year before Vesper's 80th temper tantrum got him fired and yet you faggots can only reference the same 2 streams>The only thing that held them back were the possessive mentally ill unicorns screeching 24/7.and beggars screeching 24/7 caused all the EN talents to cut off the homos completely. they unironically hate you beggars more than they hate unicorns
>>108166031I miss my owl so much
>>108168371I see you outfit-schizo, still trying to push that rrat?
>>108167193EN0 or Myth for me
>>108172909>they were there for almost a year before Vesper's 80th temper tantrum got him firedWhy though weren't the other Tempus guys angry with Magni and Vesper for getting fired? Why does Axel still have all 4 of them in his stream intro? If their "graduations" were because they asked for more money wouldn't they have been removed from that intro within a week?>and beggars screeching 24/7 caused all the EN talents to cut off the homos completely. they unironically hate you beggars more than they hate unicornsWhy is Nimi Nightmare on good terms with Caspurr and Randon if that is true? There are way too many holes in the unicorn story because their actions would indicate that other talents had sympathy for the guys after those sudden "graduations". Nimi would know exactly why they got fired so the idea that Hololive secretly hates Holostars has never made sense even for a unicorn rrat.>>108174398>I see you outfit-schizo, still trying to push that rrat?Hololive EN getting into fights over sexualized model designs would not be a huge shock. There are vast cultural differences between Japan and North America. 2025 Saba repeating the same health break as 2022 Gura (with her even making a tweet on the day Ina returned from a break with her family) is absurdly suspicious timing.
>>108171957>Lmao. Kroni/bae had the best strreams of their life with Vesper/dezmond. TheI don't know why people keep repeating this. They were awkward AF. Specially the Vesper therapy stream, it is painful to watch. It's basically Vesper repeatedly making fun of Kronii for being weird. She's incredibly uncomfortable. My personal rrat is that she refused to do any more 1 on 1 just because how awkward this was.The groups collabs were a bit better but it's clear Kronii and Mori are uncomfortable around men and were "walking manually" in those collabs.
>>108175336Ok
>>108175336So uncomfortable she laughed a lot and the stream was longer than 1 hour.
>>108175735You can laugh out of nervousness and anxiety. Also, the stream lasted only 8 minutes more than an hour, that's very short for a collab.
>>108166031I will never understand why anons romanticize the laziest EN gen when they never did anything special and half of them quit when it was their turn to do so.
