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>Confirms she was the 5th member of Justice, but decided to not drop out at the last second
>Got warned by (most likely) Fauna to not join

Based?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgZLyZ55zQs
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>>108177506
She has a literal brain tumor.
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>>108177506
>Sudden graduation in waves, including those who love being idols
>People feeling depressed or overworked and mentally breaking down
>Warnings not to join
Just what is happening?
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she literally says in the video that the one who warned her with the "secondary dude" at vshojo
kill yourself
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>>108177506
Is Grimmi's legacy on /vt/ going to be "the girl who dropped out of hololive (maybe)"?
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>>108177590
>maybe
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>>108177506
Dumb. But not surprising, given that brain of hers
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>>108177506
The largest company is Anycolor, not Cover.
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>>108177506
>Based?
Retarded, actually. Both figuratively and possibly literally
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>>108177506
>"the largest company"
so nijisanji?...
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They're all under NDA
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>>108177649
>>108177630
When talking about "biggest company" in VTubing, people usually meant the most popular one. Few cares about what the investors or the suits make
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>>108177649
>>108177630
She specifically said in the video it's "the largest company" but not vshojo or nijisanji.
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>>108177506
Kek, I didn't know Fauna was the "secondary dude" at vshojo. Retard OP.
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>>108177683
Then she could use “most popular one”?
It seems to me that she purposely used this vague wording that could mean either.
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>>108177590
Her legacy is getting scammed by her old manager into buying a hot sauce drop shipping company and bailing out of Justice.
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>>108177649
Literally says in the clip "not Nijisanji".
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>>108177683
It's still Niji.
More VTubers, it's brand influence isn't losing to Hololive either, at least in Japan. Also no net drain in form of Holoearth.
Sure it's a shitty black company, but that never change economic facts.
Either way, both Cover and Anycolor are possible objects of talk here, definitely not Vshoujo
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>>108177630
Cover blew too much money on HoloEarth and it hurt their bottom line. They're still the more popular company worldwide after Niji's failure to protect our precious queen from the bully clique. If Doki is a part of EN5 that will be the fullfillment of God's plan.
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>>108177506
>>108177791
>>108178034
If it's not Niji then...
Isn't the largest one actually Brave group?
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>>108177683
The most popular one is Niji too... Not sure what measurement you could possibly use that puts Hololive ahead as an agency. Nijisanji has the most watch time now even, they overtook Hololive since October. The only claim Hololive really still has is being able to say their average CCV per member is the highest in the industry. But that's about individual popularity of the members not which agency is most popular overall.
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>>108177666
so was vshojo, till it went bankrupt, and they ran out without paying their "talent"

NDA's just mean "shut up about us scamming you and your fans"
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Oh, the bootlickers are coping again? sneed even?
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>>108177506
She got warned by a Vshojo executive (either Mowtendoo or that Apex guy or whatever) because he made up(?) rumors about management issues and behind-the-scenes drama within Hololive, Fauna was one of the vtubers she looked upon the most (the other being Gura). It was not Fauna herself warning her.
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>>108178142
Holo does have uncontested superior reach in the west and that's about it. In JP their position isn't nowhere as lopsided. And in sheer economic size, Anycolor is indeed bigger.
So it's really ambiguous
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not clicking your shitty video, brownoid
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>>108177506
>2k ligger
>solo revenue
>not leashed by anyone
>fuck muhperms excuses
>avoided the corpofanggots
She won
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>>108177506
Oh, so it is confirmed that fauna actually got poached by vshojo
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>>108177576
This, vshojo were the rrat masters all along who were trying as they could to attack and dismantle holo out of sheer seethe that the cute idols on YouTube route was fucking bodying basically everyone on Twitch, and the ethots only could hope to build a cargo cult fake shit version of that ethos while also trying to tell everyone that the real thing is evil for dubious, bullshit non-reasons. The whore clan and whatever ligger shitters continue that still. And they are all wrong, always were, and always will be. You can't tell men what they are supposed to like or not. It's like trying to convince someone not to eat their favorite foods.
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She's a shitty poltard who mostly does react content and inserts herself into as much Twitter drama as possible. No one's missing out not having her
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>>108177576
oh yeah at around 5:20 in the video lmao
sounds like she heard some (at best) second hand accounts and decided from that and thats without taking into account if a vshoujou suit might try putting a worse spin on it as it is
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>>108177696
Her being vague and then sperging out about it being niji just confirms it. Why even be vague at all then?

lulmao
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>>108178228
Why did she immediately blab to another corpo about getting accepted? Was she under talks of joining vshojo or is it she can’t keep a secret?
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I don't think she was the fifth member, Justice was always meant to be 4 to mirror Advent's 4 channels, they just got someone not initially planned to be chosen once she bailed out. Just look at who graduated last in their PLs to know who got the booty call.
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>>108178807
That's actually a good point. They shouldn't even know that to give her any rrats in the first place. Sounds like Cover dodged a bullet. People like her are the reason Kanata couldn't tell anyone about her graduation to avoid leaks.
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>>108178807
They were hiring people to shitpost about holo here, I could see them just randomly shit talking it to literally everyone they can
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>>108178807
>Why did she immediately blab to another corpo about getting accepted?

Why wouldn't you consult other people in the same field of work when you get an opportunity? Everyone does so they can get second opinions.
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>>108177649
https://youtu.be/IgZLyZ55zQs?t=252
She literally says "it was not Nijisanji"
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>>108178280
Yeah if the question was which corpo was most popular in the west the answer would Hololive without doubt by a mile. A lot of people seem to confuse being most popular in English speaking regions with being most popular overall though with the amount of the of people you see just saying in an unqualified manner that Hololive is the most popular agency. So I wouldn't be surprised at all if a random vtuber meant Hololive when they said most popular even though it's factually incorrect without adding qualifiers like "in the west" or "outside of Japan".
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>>108178967
She never said it was hololive, and her graduation announcement does not line up with Justice debut schedule at all. So its a big lie.
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>>108178060
It's Cover, dumbass.
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>>108177506
She believed a vshojo dude, she is retarded
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>>108178142
For a westerner it's simply the most well known vtuber company, by a mile. So when a westerner talks about the biggest vtuber company they aren't talking about sheer roster size or stock price they mean the one everyone knows i.e. Cover Corp/Hololive.
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>>108178967
Because she's never been caught iieing before right?
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>>108179019
She did say it wasn't Nijisanji or Vshojo or Phase.
And she said that it was "the big one"
Genuine question what other company do you think it could be? A Brave Group wave? Neoporte?
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>>108178807
People put 2 + 2 together when she graduated. She wouldn't have had to say it outright for Mowtendo or whatever to guess she was headed to Holo. But maybe she's a dumbass and did, who knows.
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>>108179117
ESL chan that's not how you spell lying...
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>>108179125
So no proof at all. Just assumptions. She just applied for a job and got rejected and then idiots like you act ike she is some special 5th holo member that never existed.
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>>108178931
>would you consult a senior executive of a rival company in the same field about joining his competitor
Probably not, no.
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>>108179154
I asked you a question anon what company do you think it is? You're saying it's not Hololive so go ahead. I'm sure you can think of at least one big one.
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Who the genuine fuck is this and why should I give a fuck and why should I give a fuck if it was Fauna of all people giving her advice to not join....?
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>>108179179
He thinks it's Niji. He thinks she's lying. He's been carrying on this bizarre one-man crusade for two years now. No idea what the point is.
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>>108179115
It's just simple ignorance really. Unless they add he qualifiers "in the west" Hololive isn't the most popular vtuber agency by any observable quantifiable metric. Hololive isn't the biggest or most popular overall worldwide by roster size, financially, or even by how much people watch it. Just people assuming from ignorance that it's the most popular worldwide because it's the most popular in their region.
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>>108179179
NTA but I find it incredibly funny that the instant Nijisanji's english branch collapses she gets convinced by vshojo (A group known at the time to have multiple frustrated ex-Niji members) of all people to pull out of... Hololive?
There's so many moving parts here that Holo feels like the bizarre out of place piece.

Like sure, unfortunate timing and all, but she literally announced her graduation like an hour before Selen was terminated, announced her UNgraduation a few hours after the black stream, and now is playing kissass for Niji. (And it's not like she hates Doki or anything considering she's had no issues working with Doki or Mint. It's more likely she's just aggressively fence sitting like usual)
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>>108177783
She still works with him by the way.
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>>108180138
If she was fence sitting why would she make it so obvious she's talking about Hololive?
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>>108180179
No not that part.
The fence sitting in regards to glazing Niji. THAT'S the suspect part in all of this considering what actually happened that week.

Grimmi's a very talented entertainer. I can easily believe Grimmi got into and subsequently convinced to drop Holo by a bad actor. But what doesn't make sense is suddenly pretending like she likes Niji. She was smartly doing everything she possibly could to distance herself from Niji at the time, but now it feels like she's overcorrecting to appease "both sides" whatever the sides would be.

And then on top of this, there's the burning question of why on earth would she apply to Holo in the first place? Grimmi hates singing and can't travel well on account of the brain tumor. Niji was quite literally what she would have wanted at the time. Not to mention a few months later Grimmi started desperately trying to join Vshojo. If she was so close to Mowtendoo that she'd get convinced to drop Holo (How on earth did he know she was joining/got in?) why would she start desperately tweeting at the auditions in an effort to get noticed when she could just drop a line?

Nothing about this whole situation makes any sense.
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>>108178582
>won
it just prove graduation baiting and cancelling the graduation works
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>>108178142
This might’ve been true a couple years ago but Nijisanji has basically become a sausage fest these days with many of their girls graduating. It doesn’t have the widespread appeal it once had. And yes, cute anime girls have a wider spread appeal in Japan than anime dudes. Nijisanji is a fujo company these days.
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>>108177506
ESL clipper retard.
>Does She Talk about Hololive and The Reason Holo-Justice Debuted with Just 4 Members?
>>108179154
She didn't get rejected, she graduated and everything.
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>>108180310
It gets attention. You still need to make content people will stick around for.
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>>108178841
That would be Gigi. It makes sense, the American replaced the American and Gigi also has no unique skills unlike the other Justice girls.
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>>108177506
It's funny that Melodys boyfriend warned Grimmi not to join a black company when "his" own company was a black company.
I mean he wasn't wrong but that's like the pot calling the kettle black no?
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She's changed her story multiple times over the year plus it's been on too many details for me to believe a thing she says.
Initially it was a person in her friend group that talked her out of joining and she also said her new persona would be a paranormal investigator which doesn't fit with any of the Holo theming
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>>108177506
OP is slowpoke
already discussed here
https://warosu.org/vt/thread/107488416
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>>108180429
they had a fucking detective how would a paranormal investigator not fit
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>>108180429
The entirety of Advent is paranormal. Isn't Gigi paired with hunting Shiori or something nonsensical like that?
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>>108177506
>the biggest corpo
That would be Nijisanji by literally every metric
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>>108180429
>Initially it was a person in her friend group that talked her out of joining
Are you stupid?
Grimmi does not lie, she's just wrong and retarded OFTEN. She has really stupid fucking takes on almost every subject but she doesn't lie.
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>>108177630
>>108177649
Trying to "correct" in this case isn't the own you think it is nijikeks
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>>108180055
She and 99% of peple are not numbermonekys.
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>>108177506
>blaming everything on fauna all the time
GWS
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>>108180542
>>108177630
>>108177649
Not when it comes to an EN perspective, retard.
Niji EN is and has been dead in the water for many many years.
And it also doesn't matter how many bots niji throws around either. Embarassing.
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>>108177506
>5th member of justice
nah, gigi aka the horse replace her
4 justice for 4 advent
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>>108180553
"Clauvio talked me out of joining" was what she went with first
"Someone at VShojo and my manager talked me out of joining" is the new narrative.
Doesn't take a genius to remember who told you to not join a corpo
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Bullet dodged. Would probably have graduated in a year anyways after some mega yab
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>>108177506
trust me bros, i also totally was accepted into Hololive, and i decided to not join just as the nijiEN black screen stream had just dropped, now will you please watch me?
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>>108180698
Gotta say though it's funny seeing people going "but not the EN market" like it even matters. If you combine all the watch time of the three biggest EN branches Holo, Niji and Phase it doesn't even account for one tenth of the vtuber market overall. The EN market is some largely irrelevant little side project in the grand scheme of things when compared to the main businesses.
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>>108181787
Why the fuck would the JP and china markets affect an EN chuuba are you retarded? It literally does not matter to them at all.
Sure the JP market is much much bigger and in JP the EN market doesn't fucking matter but you are not on 2chan you are not in Japan, you are in the west or at the very least SPEAKING English watching English speaking Chuubas.
It's like saying if you added up every single indie EN chuuba they would be VASTLY bigger than hololive, yeah so what? What does it matter?
Fucking numberniggers man.
>Wow this chuuba just hit 10k ccv that's huge!
>*Snorts* Wow! That sure is impressive except for in Japan where the big Chuubas can 50k CCV maybe even 100k.
Learn Japanese and buy nordVPN so you can post 2chan and discuss JP chuubas with JP fans. You will be happier until they ban you for numberfagging anyway.
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>>108180542
Holy shit holo was at like 300k last year
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>>108177506
Really funny how around the time this happened people were dogpiling Nijisanji and assumed that was what she was backing out of and were celebrating, only for her to reveal it was Holo once Hololive started falling apart. Just goes to show karma always comes for you.
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>>108180429
She's changed her story almost as many times as anons ITT have changed their narrative
EYYO
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this thread and most of the posts in it are pretty much all that is wrong with /vt/ and why it shouldn't even exist as a board at this point.
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I'm glad she didn't make it in because she would've pulled a Sana
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>>108177524
It's not a tumor but it is a degenerative brain malady. Can't really blame her for being retarded because it isn't even her fault and will continue to get worse.
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>>108183740
>>>>>karma
nijinigger really that desperate to join hand with /lig/ to shit on holo
TOP LUL
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>>108177506
>shits on my bare chest
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>>108182451
It's just funny to me to be talking about "popularity in the EN market" as if it's some important noteworthy thing to have when in reality it's about as noteworthy in the context of the overall vtuber industry as Ice Hockey being the most popular sport in Finland.
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>>108177506
She was warned by Mowtendoo of Vshojo who was likely in contact with Fauna and maybe Gura
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>>108177506
If she didn't join Justice then how come it still has 4 members?
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>>108177506
then she was trying to joing nijisanji
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>>108177506
>confirms
>dude trust me bro, pls watch me
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>>108177783
The company is doing good
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>>108177576
>she literally says in the video that the one who warned her with the "secondary dude" at vshojo
VShojo was definitely spreading malicious rumors about Hololive but it doesn't help that it was suffering from years of contract disputes and malicious compliance. No one who is being honest can claim that Gura didn't hate management which she barely hid in the lyrics for Ash Again. When you link up the metaphor of Gura walking towards the door with Saba opening the door it's very obvious that "tear it down burn it down" was her feelings towards Cover.
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>>108178681
>rrat masters
>gave Grimmi the info that 2 holomems would graduate, one of which she really looks up to
>it actually happens
We don't know if they actually lied to her.
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>>108180553
Remember when she said that she was testing ingredients for her hot sauce then it turned out that not only was it a white label company but she had never even tried them herself? She lies a lot actually, glad people are finally catching on
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>>108192855
Vshojo had recently poached some holo en managers so they actually may have had inside info about those graduations. Apek could also have just been seething and lying and coincidentally ended up being correct. We will probably never know until hololive dies for real and someone writes a book about it.
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>>108177506
This is the new grift? You don't even need to join anymore? just have to admit that you're of the hundred whores who got a video call? these whores are shameless lol
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>>108194008
Why are you lying about what she said



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