>>108192106
it's been like that for a while now

>fans beg talents to leave Twitter over new AI implementation
>their company keeps using AI
kek

One final L to close out a year of Ls for hololive

>>108192106
Why is Cover so lax on using AI? They will literally steal their talents' jobs lol.

Man... I remember when getting your art called shit was the worst thing imaginable lol Guess I'm glad I didn't give drawing a second chance a couple years ago. Imagine spending so much time of your life trying to improve your art only for retarded leftoids to defame you for political gain. That would be mortifying.

Even coca cola uses AI, it's cool now

People who hold super strong opinions on AI are really weird.

>>108192106
Any company refuses to use AI is just begging to get left behind. Unless the big artists they work with start throwing a fuss, Cover isn't going to give a fuck.
Reminder that they published an article about using AI so it's not like they are trying to hide it either.

>>108192106
Nothing wrong with animating using AI.

They're a corpo with the chuddiest fanbase in the hobby. I'm not surprised that they're pushing it so hard.

Nobody real cares about AI. An image doesn't gain value because someone toiled over it for 12-24 hours. You don't buy a car with every part forged, manufactured, and assembled by human hands. You buy it because it functions and it's affordable. The image exists to convey a message or express a feeling. If you got the message and understood the feeling then the image did its fucking job. If you want slaves to make you art by hand then commission it yourself. Don't expect other people to adhere to your subjective values.

>>108192293
t.skynet

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>>108192400

>>108192397
>Art is just like cars. I am very smart

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>>108192439
Yes?

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>>108192106
Whatchu gonna do about it besides impotently seethe and cope?

>>108192106
I dont really care tbdesu

Everyone knows Cover has been a black company for years. Why do you think their biggest members have been leaving in flock?

>>108192106
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bifUtm8RUfc

illustration/cartoon/anime image gen is probably the least dangerous implementation of gen AI but it's the one people get the most angry at on the internet
nobody cares that AI sloppa code has brought down cloudflare like 3 times in 2 months and is being used by tech gatekeepers like microsoft
or that children going through school right now are going to be oversized ipad kids when they're 20
or that the entire concept of photographic/videographic evidence will stop mattering soon

I hope someone tells Iofi and see her try and justiy since she is very much anti- AI unless its Cover using it

Cola Corp doesn't care and neither do its fans

The art isn't AI. It's just animated using AI. Literally what is the issue

>>108192106
COVER just needs to start suing anti-AI fags for defamation. In Japan, truth is not even an absolute defense for defamation. Literally free money.

>>108192397
>express a feeling.

machines do not express feeling, therefore if you see a feeling in AI image youre either a nigger or other type of subhuman trash

>>108192551
Well, I care. I'm just powerless to do anything about it without mass proletarian action.

If computers made the art, computers can buy the art. I don't see why humans need to be involved.
It's like caring if two chatbots talk to each other. Outside of novelty it doesn't need to involve humans nor their wallets.

>>108192106
Who the fuck fucking cares? AI is the future faggots, in 1-2 years people will become much more dependent to it and it will become a staple for multiple industries such as companies like Cover. Not just an enhancement tool but a requirement.

>>108192245
Cover believes Hololive's success is due to upper management and their own employees.

Kek
EN fans make the best antis
Total fish domination

>>108192614
Why would Holo or any vtuber corpo need quantity over quality?

>>108192612
Is this like when the machines split off from humans in The Animatrix?

>>108192605
have you tried demonizing the largest demographic of proles yet?

>>108192551
There should be some regulations but going full anti-AI is just repeating what the Luddite did hundreds years ago. We shouldn't be anti progress

>>108192245
so who is an animator in hololive ?

>>108192646
Phase platforms literal fascists. Every corpo stinks but Phase smells bad enough to gag a maggot

>>108192245
>why is a TECH COMPANY obsessed with AI
gee I wonder

>>108192106
Holo got massively sponsored by a company who used AI for their Christmas ad, of course they will suggest Holo to use AI

The truth people aren't ready for is rhat companies will never drop AI to do little shit like this. They'd rather invest in ways to cover it up. Not only is it more reliable but you can quickly get your results without waiting on some retard in a 3rd world country to get back to you with a sample that'll probably need adjustments.

I'm using Grok to generate this post right now, by the way

>>108192678
I don't think that would be a very effective strategy, so no.

>>108192673
I imagine. I have no doubt in the long run AI will become more prevalent but just like trains outcompeted the steed its eventually going to become AI vs AI.
They'll go on about all of these advancements and humans just won't try and go do something else.
There's the occasional train enthusiast, sure, and they are useful but nobody gives a fuck about trains. Same thing will happen to AI. Background noise waiting to happen.

>>108192245
It's almost like ai would allow them to fire half their staff and save a ton of money

>>108192551
>the entire concept of photographic/videographic evidence will stop mattering soon
This really is by far the worst thing about AI.

Good to know that they didn’t hire another twitter faggot with inflated ego and pirated photoshop.

>>108192397
But...I WANT MONEY
I SPENT 30 YEARS ON DEVELOPING ART SKILLS
I DESERVE MONEY

>>108192691
They outsource to an external studio I think

>>108192756
yeah, why bother educating people to make art when remixed slop exists

>>108192703
>Phase platforms literal fascists
nta, but that's why i watch them more often than any other corpo vtuber except rem and (formerly) cera. if i wanted to listen to sjw women i'd be watching the view

>>108192754
The environmental impact is worse, but this is up there

>>108192106
classic KFP trying to start drama
Kiara must be proud

>>108192860
Are you aware that there are options besides fascism and diet fascism?

>>108192397
I will personally piss in your asshole when we're both in the coal mines for the clankerbots

>>108192756
>A hard working talented person shouldn't be paid for their work

>>108192106
shareholders view any AI gen usage as positive
do you really think that the fans that actually spend money on holo crap would give a shit about this?
it's too late now, enjoy your jeetized future

>>108192106
>>108192245
Sana really dodged a bullet.
Poor Raora is stuck, though.

>>108192106
ok and? No one cares besides troons and mentally challenged people in general.

>>108192756
Someone has to make new things and move culture forward so that genAI parasites can train on it, yes?

>>108192245
Now explain why that would be a problem from cover's pov

>>108192901
The clankers won't need us if they become sentient. They might keep a few of us in museum bacta tanks but we'll be dead for the most part. The Matrix was the best case scenario for humans at the rate we're going.

>>108192287
Coca Cola is not the arbiter of what is cool
It was only mildly less disastrous than bud light or jaguar msrketing

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>>108192397
>Nobody real cares about AI. An image doesn't gain value because someone toiled over it for 12-24 hours.
>Say this in the fandom where artists are treated as actual celebrities and parents
Wrong board, dipshit. Fuck off and rope yourself.

I hope they don't get caught using AI generated music. Now that would be hilarious.

>>108192934
YoStar (Arknights), the company notSana attached herself to nowadays, has been accused of using AI in their promotion arts for a while, though

>>108192979
They shouldn't bother because it wouldn'f be. The problem is that corpos exist at all.

>>108193008
Sad fact is, the average 2L a day consumer didn't notice or read about the AI in those ads, nor would they care if they knew

>>108192106
>caught
at first how the fuck you proof the animation is AI
the ads showing "animated" card is already out for 2 months
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfRbnALx2u0
and YET you scream AI shit now ? because a single tweet ?
are you really care about the animator or just want to shit on cover ?

>>108192756
It's not deserving money, you're arguing to deserve the job. The problem is AI can turn some shit around quickly and doesn't require weeks of back and forth communication to get something right. Art niggers are cooked. Dealing with freelance retards trying to get a project done is like pulling teeth.

>>108192551
I believe in total AI death but we all know there is no stopping greedy companies

>>108193008
As a single corpo, they're aren't. The class that owns Coca Cola is.

>>108192934
is raora an animator ?

>>108193029
The company also using tranny voice actors who change the localized script?
Surely an example of everything going right

>>108193019
Go back to twitter.

>>108192979
Because their target audience hates it and mostly likely many of their talents

>>108193056
holy ESL

Did Kiara have a meltdown yet?

>>108193088
Raora is an illustrator.

>>108192754
>a tool whose product cannot be reliably replicated, powered by a black box and it's primary use by the general public is to ragebait with slop that will soon blend the lines between reality and fiction
>also all your bills will go up because of this
this fucking sucks

>>108192397
>convey a message or express a feeling
The message of generated images being "I hate artists" and/or "I'm lazy" and/or "I'm cheap"

>>108193056
Kek holoen fans are fucking retarded and don't care about anything but posting shit on twitter for clout. They don't even consider if they're right or how their bullshit is going to hurt their own oshi. It doesn't even matter at this point the message is out and it'll be too difficult to communicate the corrections. These morons are just conceited and shooting themselves in the foot.

>>108192106
AI is not going anywhere no matter how much you cry about it. artists deserve to be fucked over anyway for being borderline scammers. literally every vtuber has stories about artists taking their money and not delivering the art. the deadline comes and passes and there might be some back and forths, then the artist just ghosts them and because artists are basically a protected class on twitter almost nobody calls them out over it either. fuck em

Yes, it's pure corpo slop. Take it or leave it.

>>108192887
yes. i just decide that fascism is funnier and makes the right people seethe

>>108193052
A single ad didn't instantly destroy the company but they spent money for something with a net negative effect
No amount of coping or crying will make anyone care about your rare apes again

>>108193104
Their target audience consists of the chuds who don't give a shit.

>AI is le evil!!!
>solves thousands of captcha that directly helps AI models FOR FREE
uh oh

>>108193142
>this fucking sucks
Yes, it does.
Read Marx.

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"Earth!" "Fire!" "Wind!" "Water!" "Heart!"
"Go planet!"

"By your powers combined...I am Captain Cheebs!"

Captain Cheebs, she's a hero
Gonna take AI data centers down to zero
She's our powers magnified
and she's fighting on the planets side

Captain Cheebs, she's a hero
gonna take pollution down to zero
gonna help her put asunder
bad guys who like to pollute and plunder

"You'll pay for this Captain Cheebs!"

"We're the planeteers, you can be one too! 'cuz saving our planet is the thing to do!"
"looting and polluting is not the way!"
"hear what Captain Cheebs has to say!"

"The power is yours!"
*Data centers explode*
*Water and electricity stops getting used at an exorbitant rate*
*Nature starts recovering*

>>108193104
Nobody giving them money is going to stop because of this

>>108193019
>artists are treated as actual celebrities and parents
This only happens if their arts look good. It doesn't matter how much efforts they put into it. If their arts look like shit, no one would care much beyond giving a pat in the back even if they put a month of their time into their pieces.

>>108193159
So you're already dead inside. How brave and original.

>>108193172
AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>108192687
>We shouldn't be anti progress
Generative AI as it is being used and marketed is not progress at all.
AI companies are not interested in pushing this tech in ways that will actually help, they are only seeking profit.

>>108193216
>arts
kek

>>108193019
You say this on the most tourist-friendly board on the site, so tourist heavy it makes /pol/ look like 4chan natives.
That includes you, btw
Nobody really from this site uses fandom seriously unless they mock people.

>>108193151
Most artists do that as well.
Average workflow of the whiniest artists you know on Twitter
>go to google / pinterest
>copy / screencap images in to editor
>move them around a bit
>sketch over
Zero of them bat an eye to this. They don't see it as wrong.
Fact is, all of them are lazy and every fucking one of them that whine the loudest absolutely rely on tools they cannot implement themselves manually, like using blur filters or other stuff like that.
Using MS Paint only for a year creates actual artists, Photoshop is for quitters.
>>108193142
Worst part is people are delusional enough in to thinking it can be regulated away. The internet exists, other countries exist. No country agrees on similar laws that cover specific niches of society.
It ain't going away sadly. It's about to get much worse next year.

>>108193056
If this is it I really don't see the problem. It's just rudimentary shitty animation to give the human-made art a bit of movement. Nobody is entitled money for shitty results, they're settling for shitty animation in exchange to not paying for it. If they wanted genuinely good animation like in the holo alternative PV they would have paid people to do it.
>NOOOO YOU NEED TO PAY ME TO DO THE SHITTY WORK
Fuck off, get a job.

I find it funny that people are so outraged by AI as if their reception had any bearing on how much it's going to be used.

>>108193172
I don't really remember anyone saying they love captchas

>>108192106
@grok how do you feel about this?

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What is Kiara thinking right now?
For reference cover has used AI for their concert backgrounds, Pekora and Noelle's outfit reveals and now this

>>108193266
>go to google / pinterest
>copy / screencap images in to editor
>move them around a bit
>sketch over
I don't know any artists that do this and I follow quite a few

>>108193318
>Heh, I bet Kiara is having a meltdown right now!!!
What is with your weird obsession with her

>>108193056
https://youtu.be/bifUtm8RUfc?t=8
here is the current one you can literally see the shit behind her head on the shelf flickering and moving.

Idk I just don’t think THIS is as big of a deal as using actual AI art
Commissioning artist, then using AI to animate their art a bit isn’t ideal I guess. But as long as they had permission from the original artists it’s fine for a quick advert I think.

It literally doesn't matter. In fact, the best vtuber right now: Neuro, is an AI. With her there's no consolewar faggotry and drama, just pure having fun.

>>108193333
Because they never record that part. Or it is conveniently in another tab.
But for real, I am not saying every artist is like this, but the whiniest ones usually are.
This is particularly the case if they pump art out quickly, they all sketch over shit, or sketch from references outside in another window.
In cases where you see recordings of a person who has art that was already sketched, you now know why, they either used some reference layer, whether images off the internet or from a 3D model
At least in the latter, a 3D model poser is fine, nothing wrong with that, 3D models are great for consistency

>>108193318
I don't necessarily disagree with her take but the tone is weird when every talent proudly takes credit for "their original song" that they didn't create, only paid for. They never said "I sang to this song by XYZ" or "I commissioned XYZ and he made me this song."
The amount of actual musicians in Hololive can be counted in one hand. And one of them just left the company a few days ago.
I don't think any of this is wrong, of course, I'm not saying commissioning a composer is as bad as using AI, it's obviously not a bad thing at all, but find a better angle that doesn't apply to you as well, then. "You didn't make it" is hypocritical.

>>108193318
Don't think Cover proudly said "I MADE THIS" so Kiara should be fine

>>108192163
No one begged for that

>>108192106
dont care nigger

>>108193447
nta, my best guess is that they outsourced this ad to a cheap company and/or some dumb intern is responsible
will probably be beheaded and that's that

ai is making everything expensive as fuck, it's destroying the planet we live on and it shits out sloppa retardation that boils kids' brains into slush
every big vtuber hates AI and will continue to do so

>>108193333
You've never read manga that had literal photos for backgrounds?

>>108192551
>or that the entire concept of photographic/videographic evidence will stop mattering soon
Been like that for 20 years but it's only now that you start noticing

>>108193056
>at first how the fuck you proof the animation is AI
R E D E E M

>>108192703
>Phase platforms literal fascists
Who?

>>108193447
what flickering
the shelf behind raora consistently still
the danger of AI is not the AI
the human using it, lying not using it
and the human accusing another human using it

>>108192106
It's LITERALLY
LIT.
ER.
AL.
LY.
fine when Hololive uses AI.
When anyone else uses AI? You best bet I'll be first in line to massively shit on them.
When Hololive does it though? S'all good. Based, even.

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>>108193670
Anon you're blind if you think this shit isn't ai

>>108192106
Not AI, compression artifacts.
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/138803292

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>>108192106
It is pixiv upscaling you fucking 50IQ phaseshilling retards. Kill yourself

>>108193717
her ear is coming out of her neck, but at least all fingers are accounted for

>>108193717
>4 fingers
>fucked up eye
>fucked up cat
Yeah, this one is fucking blatant, why even use Raora as an example when this is so much worse.

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I happen to think Cover is a pretty good company with acceptable practices.

The art isn't AI you mouthbreathing retards, the animation is. Both things are obvious.

>>108193717
I am NOT talking about the ART
I am talking about the animation
if the art you should accuse the artist themselves not COVER
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/138818341
so is this artist using AI ?
this board is really love derailing shit

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>>108193775
Fucking cope

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I think something is wrong with this Moona. It looks like she has Downs

>>108193717
Holy kek, this one is so blatant
At least when I've done AI gens that were kinda fucky, I tidied shit up like this, and I'm making them for fap material, not fucking promotional stuff jesus

its ok when holo does it, am i right?

>>108193920
What is this abomination ?

>>108192106
I dont care. I dont even oshi the company...
I just really fucking hate faggots that rally against AI.

>>108193991
Something they are proudly displaying in the ad for the TCG.

McDonalds didnt put restaurants out of the world. Make something worthwhile and you'll manage, and if you can't, oh well. Never was gonna make it.

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bro isn't it obvious?

>>108194018
I don't like that my favorite restaurant is becoming a McDonalds

>>108193920
looks like the same jerky style as when I try to make Grok spit out softcore fap material

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>>108192106
>Tech-driven company uses latest technology.
>People are upset.
Why?

some nigga here can't read and thought the art itself was ai

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>>108193916
The animation is AI, the original piece is legit, it's fucked up that they ruined the original art to do this though. They're playing with fire if they did this without the artist permission too.

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>over half of cover staff and budget is dedicated towards the MTX FOMO ridden slopmess that is holoEarth
>holoearth's goal is to ultimately replace talents with their own ecosystem
>cover increasingly betting on AI and the metaverse
How long until affiliated talents are defiled by using AI to puppeteer them in streams and events?

Why did hololive lose its soul?

>>108192397
I don't care about AI art, but I care about what that implies when company that has millions to spare is using it to cut corners, what do you think they are doing to their assets aka. your oshi when they are cheap enough to use ai? Nothing is sacred to them it seems

>>108192754
and the fact it's gonna crash the global market at one point

>>108192106
>Get caught not paying their artists
>Get caught using AI
>Multiple workers having mental breakdowns

What's wrong with Hololive?

>>108192934
Ina...

>>108194106
>ruined original art
>the original art they input as base ai animation
>using ai to check ai
how many layer of irony you on

>>108194106
Happens way more than you realize.
Look at that time when several Mass Effect artists got slapped about for mass copying and direct inclusion of other artists modified pieces
Artists on short deadlines will do anything and everything, break multiple laws, and basically nothing happens.
This is not even a recent thing, this has been happening longer than the recent modern society (industrialized)
The entire creative world is filled with copying and stealing of ideas, even identities.
Back then it was infinitely easier to pretend to be another artist, these days less so but shit still happens surprisingly despite social media.

>>108194191
kurolive*

looping live2D animations are dogshit anyway

>>108192366
Shut up AIfag go cry about someone "stealing your prompts" somewhere else.

>>108192754
It will be solved the same way "trustworthy" websites exist, they need CAs/trustworthy entities. You can already see a step towards that with a meta layer of reporting, eg Ground News.

>>108194191
Cover went public and put quarterly profits over everything else, this is the inevitable result.

>>108193920
God, even the porn that i promt from ComfyUI looks better than a billion company corpo lmao

>>108194301
*while also wasting money on stupid shit nobody wants like HoloEarth

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>>108194106
>original piece is legit
huh look the original too is 96% AI
what the fuck are you on

>>108192366
It's not about the number of widgets you can shit out per hour in this industry, so the typical "left behind" bullshit doesn't apply. The fans and talents are either artists or care about art, so the more you use AI the more you will alienate them

>>108194292
Pretty much this.
But it will still be much harder to deal with.
Webs of Trust only get you so far.
While you can force hardware producers to include hardware IDs in all recordings, even that will only get you so far because you can just buy / steal / reverse engineer stuff like that and fake others devices with time (because their ID is on full display, quite literally)
Scary times around the corner and I don't see any feasible solution to it without replacing billions of cameras at incredible cost and ensuring the live output of those recordings are lossy so nobody can reverse engineer their IDs unless they get physical access to the drives.

It's because artists charge too much money.

>>108194302
kinda looks like what base video models with no control loras would spit up which would not be surprising since its all to cut costs and probably from some random worker with no knowledge of ai stuff.

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>>108193920
What the actual FUCK.... Man I always looked up to hololive as our older bro but this is just... Just not right

>>108193287
>Fuck off, get a job.
Nigga say this when AI took all the jobs

>>108192397
This AIfag doesn't get enough (You)s in the AI thread so he posted his bait here instead.

>>108192583
Human animator going homeress

>>108192687
AI doesn't progress it steals and repeats
>but agi
fiction.

>>108193052
The average consumer no longer talks about the annual Coca-Cola Christmas ads, either.

>>108193920
Looks like fapheroes ad

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>>108192106
Womp womp

>>108194467
trying too hard saar

>>108193920
This can be achieved in minutes without ai.

I'm glad I didn't choose art as my career. My life will be meaningless.

>>108194473
The only jobs left will be shitty work that's not cost-effective enough to be replaced

>>108193318
I think her post specifically is about the attitude AI bros have with claiming they made the thing they commissioned. Corpos don't have this attitude. They don't care about who made it, they just want it made as quickly and cheaply as possible.

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>>108194467
Cover is set to decline more and more like kurosanji. Just stay with phase and forget about them.
The hololive we know and love is dead...

>>108193920
The fact that it looks like shit is the best part, there are people on this board making i2v porn that looks a hundred times better. They really don't give a fuck because they know the drones will buy it anyway.

>>108194538
Fighting coke is a guaranteed L anyway, because even just their flagship product is a formula that was developed for over a century to generate infinite money. They could exclusively run subliminal 0.1 second flashes of their logo on television and sell as much. Only a tranny on the can could ruin them temporarily.

>>108193953
Correct! It's always fine when Hololive does it.
Them's the rules, I don't make 'em. Don't like it? Tough shit!

>>108194658
holy cope

You know it's bad when an army of holocucks run to defend the company

>>108192397
damn that's a lot of seething replies

>>108194822
forgetting phasecuck joining to shit on cover huh
>>108194688
>>108194467

>>108193920
Matsuri's eye (the one that's blinking in the card art) looks absolutely terrible kek

Who cares - artists suck.
Bring on the AI revolution.

>>108195102
Famous last words of someone stuck with 100 million unemployed blacks rioting and looting

>>108194420
It's already over, that cat is out of the bag. Something as strong as video evidence has lost all of its confidence in exchange for essentially nothing.

I sound like the fucking unabomber.

>>108192106
retardanon thats just a lazy artist, not ai

>>108193138
So, how this affects her? The art is commissioned to an artist and just animated with generative filling?

>>108195181
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJa1U202qkQ?t=25m30s

>>108195268
>>108195181
Oops.
https://youtu.be/IJa1U202qkQ?t=25m33s

There is literally nothing wrong with AI drawings and I won't pretend otherwise.

>>108195316
Inb4 supposed anti black corpo freedom fighters show up to defend multibillionaire's greed

>>108192748
>adds 100 more staff each month

pajeets defending AI again since they have no talent for anything except scamming

>>108192934
If AI poses an existential threat to artists like everyone says, then isn't having a fallback that pays as well as Hololive presumably does a good thing? And it's not like companies in the gacha and anime sphere don't also get accused of using AI all the time now too. Soon there's going to be nowhere for artists to go if they don't want to associate with companies tainted with AI bullshit.

>>108195316
that ads is already out for 12 days
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bifUtm8RUfc

>>108195387
What a retarded line of thinking you have.
Let me put it in a way a retarded fat faggot amerikike like you can understand.
Satya Nadella laid off over 10,000 white Americans from Microsoft and replaced them with 9,000 offshored Indian AI engineers just this 2025.

>you have to pay the artist a thousand dollars for the art! you can't do it for free with AI, ok?

>>108195316
i call you retarded, you act retarded again, thanks I guess, and make sure to samefag another time btw lol

>>108195503
Get your eyes checked.

>>108195503
You're a moron

>>108195460
So at least it's not Indians.

>>108192106
>Cover caught using AI, yet again
After the tenth time is anyone even surprised anymore when Hololive keeps using AI generated art? Management doesn't give a shit about losing some of their biggest talents so of course they don't care about fans getting upset over the occasional 3D live with gibberish text or acrylic merch with 6 fingers.

>>108192245
Yagoo thinks Cover is a tech company and he only uses the idol stuff for the revenue. That is why they hired over a 100 employees to work on a Metaverse game.

>>108192397
>Nobody real cares about AI.
Artists care but they have spent decades defending globalism and those globalist corporations have finally bit them in the neck. They don't care if their art is made in an AI server farm if that helps reduce costs.

>>108195489
this is not even about AI GEN art
it's about AI animation
oh my god
this board really LOVE derailing topic

>he did it again
this is embarrassing, even for a catalog bait thread

>>108195458
English comments: AI seethe
Japanese comments: minor AI seethe and mostly "I'm going to the konbini to buy some right now"

Shareholders should be allowed to sue the company if they refuse to use AI and instead use their meager profits as a form of charity to people who refuse to get real jobs

>>108195901
People with that "fake job" are the reason this entire hobby exists, jeet

>>108195821
You truly are retarded. What are your job prospects in the future? White collar jobs are in line to be completely eliminated. That sends more people towards blue collar jobs which lowers wages significantly and even then they're the next in line to be replaced by AI.
You really don't think at all do you? Enjoy supporting your own country's enslavement because "it makes people mad"

>>108192106
Its okay when hololive does it

>>108192397
I like the way you put this into an actual argument that makes a point regardless if I disagree or not. And I think AI is overused now for art.

>>108195901
They'd be better off suing over wasting money on a metaverse project.

>>108195460
I never defended the use of AI or the replacement of artists, I was doubting the claim that Sana dodged a bullet. I only said that most companies that artists like them can work for have dirty hands on this issue, not just Cover. And that having a backup option in the case of the absolute doomer scenario coming to pass is a good thing. How is that pro-AI?

>>108192397
The seething replies to this just proves how your point him home lol

>>108192397
luddites absolutely SEETHING lmao

Feelingradation more like feeling graduations

>>108192703
>Phase platforms literal fascists.
Based.

>>108192106
it's okay, we love AI here in Coca-Live

>>108194714
I don't give a shit about whatever outrage is trying to be manufactured but reading comprehension is important, anon.

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Does the AI look good?
>Yes.
I don't care
>No
Fuck AI it should be illegal

>>108192748
A Japanese company will never fire staff retard.

>>108192397
>I do not understand the different factors which make art valuable versus a utilitarian product

Yes anon, you made that abundantly clear.

>>108193483
Neuro and AI-gen art should not be put in the same catagory.

>>108192106
Once AI improves a little more everyone will be able to get amazing AI generated and rigged models, outfits, and props anytime they want completely for free. And Cover will be at the forefront while indies that stick to antiquated values like paying artists will be left behind.

>>108196167
>Hololive talents: we're all against AI generated art
>Hololive management: that is unfortunate since we are still going to use it for your 3D lives and merch

>>108192163
>fans
political activists*

>>108198375
AI doesn't work for free
You're just ignoring the costs

>>108194467
>Fyren's cocksleeve
lmao cuck

>>108192106
It's okay when Hololive does it

>>108199781
if you download a model someone else trained it costs you approximately $0.0002 cents in electricity to generate pngs on your laptop

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>>108192106

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>ai shills in full force
lmao

>>108199993
>Phasecucks stay in their thread while holocucks shit up the board

>>108196167
Such a massive disconnect from the talents and the suits in the company. They do this shit, knowing full well that the talents don't want it.

>>108192293
My take is companies will save time and money using AI and won't pass on the saving to the consumer (me) therefore I fucking hate it because it will facilitate the jews taking the same money for less effort.

>>108200103
If you assume humans actually exist and aren't all robots out to get you, basically every single time there's some background AI incident it's because some dumbass somewhere in the process thinks nobody will notice they cut corners. You freaks are the equivalent of people who think an entire university needs to be shut down because a student used AI to write one of their papers.

>>108192106
so thats ai because you say so huh lol

>>108192106
Calm down, Iofi.

>>108193154
your brown

>>108200397
see >>108193920
FAGGOT

>>108201024
oh no a random 1 second clip!

>>108201182
already moving the goalposts huh
your concession has been accepted

>>108201295
moving goalposts? you showed me a 1 second clip that uses the same mechanics from porn games you find on itch that are 5+ years old. They make the still image and then use a simple program to "move" their parts, provided you give them the vectors and constraints. You are a fucking idiot to think this is any new or ai-generated lol

am i losing my mind? who the fuck cares about ai use in animation isn't the outrage supposed to be about generative? but the input is their own shit?

>>108201433
the funny part is some retards think that that is several generated images, since the ai services seem to charge far more for those "videos" than for the pictures lol, when all they are doing is using a simple monkey program

>>108201514
its just anti ai everything these days, speculation of the original image being ai regardless.

>>108192551
no but the major of popular artists and fan artists are anti-AI so Cover made them their enemies isn't a good idea