I have a question for you all. As you're aware, Lulu returned to Nijisanjil after her stalker issue was resolved, but during that time, she continued streaming on an alternate channel, alternating between appearing as a fleshtuber and a vtuber. My main question is: Why is she now pulling in 17k to 20k viewers on her primary channel, while on the other one she never exceeded a few hundred? Do viewers only care about the model and the established brand that made her famous, even though she acts the same way without them? Is that really all that matters?
>>108229067Because a vtuber returning after four years following a graduation, to the same character and company, is an incredibly rare occurrence within the industry.
>>108229112So you are saying she would be coming back to a few hundred viewers when the hype runs out?
>>108229067she streamed as a flesh tuber?anyway, I know the answer you want to elicit is "bots" but there is also people that watch the brand more than any particular talent (me, for example, but hololive, not niji). it sounds weird and even rude towards the talents but I simply find companies more trustworthy when it comes to delivering a streamlined product
>>108229162Probably not a few hundred, but yes, I’m sure her viewership will slowly be reduced as the hype dies down.
>>108229206That’s true. Dooby does around 3k viewers when dual streaming but when/if she returned to Hololive her viewership would increase likely dramatically.
>>108229067>Do viewers only care about the model and the established brand that made her famous, even though she acts the same way without them? Is that really all that matters?For s sizeable portion of the generl viewerbase, it actually is part of the reason. The look, the brand, the dynamic within an established group, these things do matter from a business perspective. There is actually not a lot of vtuber out there that manage to match or outperform their non-corpo identity, because personality is just one part of what makes the vtuber.>>108229162Also this. She was a big name back then and returning to the very same company years after is a very rare occurence. >>108229162nta, but yes, the numbers will flatten out again, although it's going to be interesting to see where she will stay now. If I'm not quite wrong she was a 4- to lower 5-view back then and vtubing as a whole a changed and grown quite a bit over the 4 years she was indie. Needs to be said though that she is the kind of person to just stream endless hours which is certainly not everyone's cup of tea, but reaches a very solid viewerbase.>>108229206Pretty much yeah. One channel where she did both fleshie and chuuba content.
>>108229067There's always a portion of corpo-only people and spillover from other corpo girls.But yes she's buffed by the novelty of it and will be for a while. In ~2 months she'll be at her true corpo numbers.As an indie without anyone else she'd be down to 2k-3k again.
>>108229349*has changed ffs
>>108229067didn't even know she was a fleshchuuba
>>108229067The Japanese worship corpos as much as Americans.
>>108229067Interesting topic and it really depends, for the girls that left hololive EN going indie really worked for them, maybe it was because it wasn't as overcrowded as nijisanji? IDK but for lulu it's too soon to make any asumptions because the hype about her comeback just started, give it a few months
>>108229067Pretty sure a bunch of Holofans are watching her too. Since she was popular enough with them back in the day too.
>>108229067Brand awareness
>>108229067You overestimate how many people care enough to chase vtubers across personas, imo. Especially because, if I remember correctly, she didn't get her indie model until like, 3 years after she stopped nijisanji activities.
>>108229067I like her
>>108229067Partly because of the hype her return generated, she's still in her momentum as she just came back a week ago. Now give her some months and her ccv will stabilize maybe around 5k.As for why people didn't go to her other channel my answer is that she did 50/50 flesh stream and vtubing, in a case it's like kson (Coincidentally graduated at the same time frame). If Kson ever returns to Holo she would get +20k ccv as well for sure.
her fleshtuber content was in general incredibly boring somehow the vtuber model changes that
>>108229067>Why is she now pulling in 17k to 20k viewers on her primary channelEvery corpo bots their streamers. Corpo fans do not follow them to their indie channel. Design and familiarity with that design matters a lot.
>>108229067>Why this person whoase main appeal is having a kayfabe heavy character not popular without the kayfabeGee, I don't know.
>>108229067reminds me of the salome ipo scam. Stupid high ccv, but the sc does not match it.
>>108229067>>108235556 forgot pic
>>108229067She never really advertised her channel so most Niji fans had no idea she was still streaming.
>>108235556You know that a 3 view indie was the most superchatted vtuber of the year right?
>>108235745Everyone knew where she'd be as soon as she announced her graduation. These things are far from secret.
>>108235791wonder whyhttps://x.com/KusogePatrol/status/1994000993747653081
>>108229067I want to watch character known as Lulu with their world view, relationship and rp, i don't know care about a 3dpd whore. simple as
>>108235928I'm talking about kirshe though
>>108229067Yes, we care only about her model and her HUGE TITS.KSON would be the same. Coco model was peak.
>>108235556yeah sure
>>108236263>its ennacuck again, posting the shit he does exactly to "get caught" and post about it
>>108229067>>108236358Do holotrannies do anything at all but seethe at nijisanji and obsess over metrics of people they hate?Here's biboo after her botfarm in Bangladesh crashed btw.Real CCV 600~
>>108235865No they didn't
>>108236625you are a literal retard, ennacuck, you cant help but always selfreport lol
>>108229067brandfags want to watch her under their favorite brand. doing the same thing without the brand = no watch.
>>108237044>chatGPT reply>chatGPT imageIf the jeet who wrote your code reads this: you're retarded, calling everyone your preferred strawman doesn't work anymore now that 90% of holotrannies left for tower and you got no army of 0 IQ cucks to piggyback off of.
>>108236625from your own bait thread, tranny>Huh that's a weird drop>Go check out the VOD on that day>Go to the moment the drop happens in graph>Biboo and pebbles talking about youtube dying>Chat saying it's happening to everyone>Picrel is Fauna on the same day, also getting the same drop>YOU DUMB FAGGOTS ARE SO BAD AT NUMBERFAGGING IT ACTUALLY MAKES ME ANGRY
>>108237135>>108236625keep digging your own grave, ennacuck, it only makes it it more pathetic and funny
>>108237300>>108237182Seethe /#/jeets
>>108236928Anon it's literally one Google search away. Not just that, it's one of the suggested searches so it shows up as autocomplete. The answer is always on the first page as well. Living in denial isnt good.
>>108238506At the time, a small minority of people knew, it wasn't common knowledge. She also didn't start streaming again right away. She was gone for months, and Unou didn't appear for months further.
>>108238506Did you not realize that the majority of the JP audience don't have the same doxx-o-I-know-her-PL-mentality with some nyfcofaggots like you here?!
