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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://vt.poi.cat/

Hololive sites
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://holo-spotify-stats.jirikunes.eu/

Twitch sites
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/
>https://streamscharts.com/
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>raid sora-chan
>watch pekora
Why are they like that?
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Okay so can we agree Cecilia Immergreen is the most underrated holo? Every stream of hers is always top quality.
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Marine don't believe koyo dirty mind can write beautiful word
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>Listen, FUWAMOCO. I won't be here anymore soon, but I will always grant you my eternal blessing from the heavens, okay? So go forth and be strong, for I consider you the rightful heirs to my unicorn kingdom. I believe in you!

Beautiful final words from Kanatan...
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>>108257971
sorry for the delay, had to find the tweets (or screencaps)
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no gay shit pls
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>>108258862
too late.
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>>108258872
nnooooooooooo
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>>108258872
stop shipping hetero girls together pls
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my friend just feel down when he watch THAT kaguya scene
is he unicorn?
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>>108258861
>Kiara please stop playing therapist for suicidal people!
>"No. I must save them."
This is so batshit insane it loops around to being based.
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>>108258865
ERB (!) has better odds of a redemption arc than Shiori.

She is so tired of Homos that she prefers to collab with fucking Nijis rather than those subhumans. Meanwhile it would have to take literal violence for Shiori to stop homocollabing, she's jaded and hilariously petty
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>>108258872
So fucking gay! I hate that Gay Gay and Clanker Clanker shio with a passion. Why does anyone even like this ship? It sucks and there are much better ones for these two. Ew
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>>108258865
Anon she literally sided with the tourists who don't even watch her coming in to post things such as "good, parasocial incel losers need to leave if they can't handle this" under her first male collabs back then.

I wouldn't be so hopeful.
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>>108258879
Then it's time to stop watching hololove.
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>Bae
>Anya
>Ayame
I bet on bae,this word reek of Chinese
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>>108258914
FUCK
*Hololive
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Indeed it the Chinese girl as expected
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>>108258313
>>108258234
>>108258078
we don't want your kind over there just so you know
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>>108258914
Hololove is love
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>>108258929
especially towa
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>>108258865
>ERB is very close to reedeming herself
>lol lmao
>Shiori i-
zozzle keklemao
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>>108258861
Why did she care so much? It's not like she knew her.
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>random /lig/ archive link(probably guro/scat/cp)
>now scat posting
Okay SEA/yuropoors, it's time to stop.
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>>108258872
BABYDOLLFAG DON'T LOOK
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>>108258879
heterosexuality is the worlds most successful psyop
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LOL when was the last time Shiori did numbers. Keep dreaming.
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KARI SAN KAKKOI
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>>108258968
>Winning
Definitely towa
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>>108258981
She went 4-0 against Nimi last week...
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>>108258981
Didn’t shiori birthday beat new aqua birthday?
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>>108258981
Literally just an hour ago. Everyone buys shiori merch
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>>108258981
she mogged nimi recently
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>>108258897
Nijis are fucking WORSE
A thousand times worse
Ren is the faggot that cheated on his fiance of 5 years for an organ, but nijifag managers pick him as "the safe one for branching out" because he didn't have a giga yab blowout or a hand in SELEN SHOCKU
ALL nijiENs are fucking repulsive, at least the homos are just loser leeches and not propped up gigabotted pieces of shit used to lie to shareholders to fund Riku's yacht
It genuinely disgusts me the amount of interference that is run for them that tricks people who don't know any better and every niji sympathetic or fan manager at holo should be fucking broomcloseted for suggesting those worthless faggots be anywhere NEAR holo
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>>108258908
The thing is that the whole rebellious "own da incels" shit is actually easier to get rid of than genuine cocklust (Ollie, Iofi, possibly ERB).

Mori and Kronii had the exact same motivations after all, and they stopped when they realized they achieved nothing except self-harm, and the homos they propped up backstabbed them without a second thought.
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>>108259022
melty
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ERB = Suisei for EN
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>>108258942
yes you do
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>>108258865
Erb and shiori both do, they'd drop them like a sack of hot dogshit if they ever actually fucked up or overstepped their bounds
Shiori especially, after all the shit she's gone through
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>King
Definitely Foobs
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>>108258968
Nigga your mentally ill, I think I said it once, I like CC and Biboo together, however long ago that was and you've been running with this weird angle since.
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>EN5

Roca
pillow
Peo
Raki
Lazuli
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>>108259059
smartest post of this entire new year
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>>108259028
Ame literally invented the "own da incels" mentality and then invented dropping the mentality too
For some reason people always forget her
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Why did sankikek 24hours flop
It didn't even trend at number 1
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>>108259022
I know Nijis are worse, shit I've been documenting their botting for the past six months

But take it with the previous context. ERB went from "I'm literally going to collab with every Homo on earth" to "I would really prefer if only girls collabed with me", and that is a product of exhaustion, you can't babysit parasites forever. And the fun part is that you don't have to do anything, just let ERB continue acting like their mother until she breaks.
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>health
Botan
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wtf ?
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>>108259095
probably because she didn't have an actual collab with them as far as I remember. But it's true that her faux-duet with Altare was 100% spite-driven.
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>>108259071
I don't give a fuck about you, I'll always post that to trigger the babydoll faggot from /grun/
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man i just want to get back when everything seems ok
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Haachama
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Chama
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>>108259140
Uh oh the autofister anon child is having a melty! Quit whining about Gay Gay and Clanker Clanker being a match and just admit they will never be.
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>>108259138
>But it's true that her faux-duet with Altare was 100% spite-driven.
I don't know how AmeSame survived "Singing Fly Me to the Moon with a Homo"
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>Ollie
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>>108259171
they aren't a match because they are already a thing tho
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>>108258798
https://youtu.be/HRVcedpPseQ
EN songs in the Hololive top 100 most played Hololive songs of 2025:
>97) Carbonated Love (IRyS) - 2,292,984 views
>93) Wicked (Hoshimachi Suisei/Mori Calliope) - 2,344,481 views
>90) DIAMOND GIRLFRIEND (IRyS ft. MOTSU) - 2,370,204 views
>89) Suki Suki Daisuki (Ouro Kronii) - 2,371,472 views
>88) Rebellion (Advent) - 2,415,829 views
>82) ABOVE BELOW (Justice) - 2,481,889 views
>80) Hololive Ieru ka na? hololive SUPER EXPO 2024 ver. (Hololive) - 2,501,681 views
>75) Ai wo Torimodose!! (Advent) - 2,630,162 views
>74) REFLECT (Gawr Gura) - 2,636,083 views
>68) Kaibutsu (FUWAMOCO) - 2,756,231 views
>61) Kira Killer (Zutomayo ft. Mori Calliope) - 3,034,108 views
>44) KING (Gawr Gura/Mori Calliope) - 3,627,177 views
>43) Love Me Love Me Love Me (Nerissa Ravencroft) - 3,638,130 views
>40) TAKEDOWN (AmaLee/Bao/Mori Calliope) - 3,861,477 views
>34) Go-Getters (Mori Calliope) - 4,125,864 views
>12) LET'S JUST CRASH (Mori Calliope) - 8,564,949 views
>8) Team Tomodachi (Advent) - 11,155,841 views
>5) Ash Again (Gawr Gura) - 13,714,752 views
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>>108259153
xister... it's time to let go
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-JxUnudtRE
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I really like shiowi Chan's boobies they feel so nice
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>>108259095
She was the last one to start making collabs, but also the first one to stop making them, within the span of one month. Mori and Kronii gets remembered as long as they did for having at least one collab a month until it fell apart.
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>>108259210
how about no
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Damn,it Rui not Ollie
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>>108259232
Stop bragging, Zeta
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How can Ina compete?

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2657537349?t=02h46m40s
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>>108259137
I don't know how to feel about seeing Shiori becoming skinnier with each handcam.

What about the Shioreos? Are they glowing flatter too? Or the Shioass?
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>>108259153
2 flips bois on top just like their jp kuzuha
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>>108259140
Just saying, I was probably one the first few people that said they like Babydoll and you let some schizo in another split control you seething at ghosts.
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>>108259263
>She's so flat the dress falls
Jesus
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>>108259206
Narrowed down to the 2025 releases on Hololive channels
>90) DIAMOND GIRLFRIEND (IRyS ft. MOTSU) - 2,370,204 views
>89) Suki Suki Daisuki (Ouro Kronii) - 2,371,472 views
>75) Ai wo Torimodose!! (Advent) - 2,630,162 views
>12) LET'S JUST CRASH (Mori Calliope) - 8,564,949 views
>8) Team Tomodachi (Advent) - 11,155,841 views
>5) Ash Again (Gawr Gura) - 13,714,752 views
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>>108259232
her 3D booba in default 3D is outrageously good.

That white outfit she recently has been wearing looks like shit though. Reminds me of Nimi's dumpsterfire of a 3D dress, the way the cleavage is drawn just looks so fucking weird and bad.
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https://www.youtube.com/live/nvlfc0jWBMk?si=gGtWXKHYeT2lnhTd
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I've been visiting other boards because of how bad /vt/ is and I've noticed that they don't care about posts being ESL as much as this one. Not even the absolute shithole that is /v/, why is that?
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>>108259291
I don't care, really
I only post it to trigger that one person, it takes me 10 second to write a post like that
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>>108259263
vtuber?
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>>108259240
the damage is irreparable at this point, you're only continuing to hurt yourself by coming here
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>>108259313
There is a proven track record of thirdworlders and ESLs being the instigator of most of the drama
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Virtual Oita Noel's tummy is supreme sex
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>>108259232
yeah, Jurard is so lucky
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>>108259339
surely you have that track record right
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>>108259347
Flayon*
Stop pretending anyone likes your SEAshitters
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>>108259364
They're both SEA lmao

Saaryon is from Sri Lanka
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>>108259353
How much do you want?
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>>108259381
Sri Lanka is South Asian not sea anon
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>>108259390
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>>108259313
It’s board dependent. Places like /vt/ and /vg/ can draw a correlation between abhorrent posts and SEA grammar. Also places like /k/ jump on any ESL for being (Insert Country) shills sometimes.
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>>108259415
Also in regards to that balding gentleman in the lower left corner
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https://www.reddit.com/r/Holostars/comments/1q1t9ro/hololyzer_superchat_and_live_memberships_2025/
What happened to Fuwamoco?
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>>108259335
if suzuhara lulu can comeback en livers can too never stop believing
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>>108259436
I don't even dislike Rider for his opinions per se
I hate his fucking attitude and demeanor much more
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>>108259436
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>>108259137
N
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>>108259446
I know you're /here/ Advanced-Steak-8023
>>108210940
>The position doesn't change but Kanata's figure is still being undercounted
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>>108259446
Nothing special, they've been doing a lot less SC reading streams than in previous years but that's it. 2024 had ton of zatsu streams with them just answering SCs.
They had a lot of merch this year though, including very expensive merch like the axgrit figures and keyboards.
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>>108258986
Remember when Flare was the cool one? She sure didn’t like that. Her voice, both for talking and singing are made to be “cool” but she demands to be cute.
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>>108259436
This nigga rejoiced about the graduation rush like a bonafide Holoan, what is he talking about?
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>>108259450
a nijiEN is not returning lmao, and it won't help the branch
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>>108259500
Just admit Fuwamoco became the runt of Advent
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>>108259353
https://x.com/i/status/1725013911009992756
This a virus
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>>108259478
Sanctimonious is the word I was looking for
He's a sanctimonious cunt
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why oh why does this thread care so much about SCs for holos when the talents themselves have said merch and voice packs are more important than SCs. Post the pic they showed
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>>108259513
>They're the #1 HoloEN on that chart
huh?
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Just checked on the 24 hour stream. Holy channel debuff. Shiori (and spiritually ame) must be jealous of what the nigger elf channel can do.
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ollie cute
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>>108259478
Lol what a scummy fuck.
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>>108259500
just the keyboards they had netted more than half of these superchat amounts in under an hour
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>>108259552
>DIVIDE BY TWO UNIRONICALLY
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHH
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>>108259193
Yes and no. It is true that having genuine friendships amongst dubai so they can have their giggly shojo tier shipfest would help them, that is only part of the puzzle.

The fact is, most of the issue is that the beggars do not want to support their "oshis", they want to erode idol culture as some boogeyman despite proof we've gotten everything from otakus to married couples with kids on our side at this point. So its hard for them to make the incel moniker stick when so many well adjusted people just do not care for the Holostars and it makes them mad. So their only recourse when THEY don't want to watch these male vtubers is to cause discord, shitting on sweet girls like Rissa or CC on the down low. They've legit got nothing else to do, they're so miserable.
We keep getting more fantastical fun and bring in more and more audiences, while they're stuck in 2000s mindset of idols being cringe and there is nothing they can do to make that stick.
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>>108259539
uh you are not allowed to say that
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>>108259550
Talents don't get money from licensed merch cover owns the IP and designs.
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>>108259137
Shiori would post something like this.
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NOW
https://www.youtube.com/live/nvlfc0jWBMk
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>>108259446
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>>108259552
homobeggars aren't holoantis they said
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>>108259552
Literally the same guy who always insta-posts any homo shit to the main place there kek
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>>108259446
god those justice numbers outside of gigi are grim as shit. hoping raora especially has a better 2026
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>>108259552
>>108259592
Wait, this guy is Percy, right?

Jesus fucking christ he is just some retarded shitposter from /here/, I thought he sucked Dinofag off for the meme
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>>108259592
It's always fascinating how quickly they do this when they sniff any opportunity to brag when they otherwise beg all the time, they constantly do this to ID as well despite those girls bending over backwards to accommodate the homos
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>>108259446
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>>108259586
Anon,it the freaking debuff game MOMOTETSU
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>>108259592
this has to be someone that hates the homos larping as a homofan to make the antihomi sentiment stronger
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>>108259529
You are mixing up multiple things. The merch produced and sold by management is worth virtually nothing. Only the birthday and anniversary merch matters, all the rest is effectively junk. Voice packs at the top is a NijiEN thing and specifically a CUT issue rather than being more or less important.
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>>108259552
Is there some Jewish math at play here?
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>>108259552
I’m not autistic enough to look into it but how true is this info?
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>>108259640
all the things you listed are more important to them than superchats
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>>108259633
Nah, this is just the casual homobeggar anti, there is a reason why it isn't worth falseflagging as one since they always show up in the flesh to ruin their own reputation
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>>108259552
how come these faggots never talk about merch or sponsers?
it’s always sc and they go through hoops trying to explain why the homos sc are actually good
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>>108259579
I know you want to spam this angle so you can point to your own posts later as "consensus" or "proof" but you'll still look retarded in a day or two when you try it then.
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reminder that the homos income is so low that some ENs moved to Japan to reduce their expenses. Meanwhile the JPs can't afford the 3D Lives they want to have
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>>108259640
voice packs definitely matter otherwise the girls would be doing way less of them in general.

but saying SC doesn’t matter at all is cope though, even with the cut from cover and YT its still a massive difference in actual money being at the top compared to the runts
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>>108259672
What merch and sponsors? They notably didn't even get merch for their "important" concert and whenever Cover needs anything to succeed they are nowhere to be seen and that's not even mentioning the most egregious sponsor they "got"
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>>108259657
Aren't members like Nerissa also struggling to sell out merch?
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>>108259552
Surely these dumbasses gotta realize that the money is in merchandise and sponsorships, right? We’ve seen how piss-poor their merch sales are and sponsorships are basically nonexistent. Superchats were useful in the early days of Hololive, but it’s a pretty shit metric these days when you have Coca-Cola and Mcdonald’s sponsorships to hang your hat to. This isn’t 2019 anymore. After Youtube gets their cut, dubaiz get their cut and then you pay the managers, I doubt there is much, if any, profit to sorak of
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>>108259717
EN has been doing Shadowverse sponsorships, hell there is another one tonight
An hour of streaming that is easily gonna be worth 10k for the girl
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>>108259568
nta but why do people not divide FWMC's numbers by 2?
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>>108259724
Not on the remote same level as the homos
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>>108259724
Nerissa sold more units in one hour than what Clown Homo did during the entire merch run.

What's bigger? a 2000 stock or a 600 one?
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>>108259692
what do expenses have to do with income? girls moved to japan too because its cheaper to live in japan than it is to live in most of america. thats true for both homos and the girls
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>>108259739
Half of that goes to Cover
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>>108259655
Obfuscation through omission and willful ignorance
Their merch doesn't move units and they don't get much of it, and their sponsorships are much fewer and usually piggybacked (meaning they'll have less overall return than the competing holos)
The oil baronesses they have can't solve the merch issues, but they can simply pour money into attentionwhoring through supas (and there's little competition)
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>>108259594
>holoantis
that post was very inoffensive, you need therapy for victim complex
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Divide by two is correct though.
You should divide the subscribe count as well.
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>>108259698
>voice packs definitely matter otherwise the girls would be doing way less of them in general.
If it were lucrative, more girls would be doing them. It's often a subset of girls who do all of the VPs and a subset of girls who do almost none of the VPs
One useful signal is to consider how often the members shill a type of merch after it's released. Very few shill Random Holiday #18's acrylic stands, and very few shill VPs. All of them shill birthday and anniversary merch.
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>>108259731
All you gotta do is look at all the JPs that regularly turn superchats off because it just isn't worth dealing with. They cost way much time and can be really stressful compared to how little actual money they bring in
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>>108259724
anon nerissa stock vs the homos stock isn’t the same
what she does sell out is at least 5x any of the homos and that’s being generous
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>>108259764
There is also the fact that they had a major boost in September (all of them) because of the Homo concert.

A Homo concert that won't happen again. So I wonder what will they do this year around.
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>>108259779
This is a question of importance and cuts, which is why they openly prefer merch over superchats but still appreciate them
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>>108259741
Why would you? How do you know how they divide that money?
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>>108259762
We don't know the particulars of their sponsorship cuts, if anything I'd assume Cover takes more than 50% from that.
Either way it's a shitload of money over the year.
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>>108259749
The ones that moved were already living in cheap places like flipland or south America
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>>108259800
Oh, they may get a concert again
..at that garbage studio they were offloaded to lol
Or just MMD again
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>>108259749
the ENs in Japan moved there because it gives them more opportunities or because they were already there you monkey.
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>>108259741
Divide by two is a meme because sisters used to shit on their CCV and subs as divide by 2, which is retarded because if they were on separate channels that implies they have ZERO fan overlap whatsoever
Divide by two is mathematically correct for discussing per-talent revenue and profit, but it's a tactic that basically only sisters use, so in general it's safe to shit on anyone trying to do it
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>>108259814
99% goes to Fuwawa 1% to Mogojan
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>>108259741
Do you also apply modifications to everything they pay to make up for that logic?

They don't pay twice when they release a song together. They pay rent once and share their apartment. They pay once for their 3D live, not twice.
And so on.
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>>108259552
>Diamond Dogs going from top superchats in Hololive to making less than two homos
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>>108259741
because the revenue isn’t split evenly between them. fuwawa takes 90 percent mococo only gets 10
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>>108259724
There’s a difference between struggling to sell over a 1000 sets while making at least $100k in merch sales while dubaiz struggle to sell a few hundred sets which is close to maybe $10-$20k. After their sales, after doling out superchats and paying managers what is Cover actually left with from homo branch? Cover doesn’t even want to introduce a new ID gen and they have higher merch sales and actually get sponsorships and have recently proven they can sell out concerts. What do the homos bring besides headaches?
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>>108259769
you are pathetic, radlib
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>>108259814
I just assume since they're 2 people sharing 1 channel. The logical thought would be to split their earnings?
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>>108259741
Do superchatters send two separate scs whenever they donate?
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>>108259851
Here is the catch.

Nerissa sold 1200 units (of her first set) in about 10 minutes, the real catch was the remaining 800.

So, Nerissa sold in 10 minutes four times more than what Clown Homo sold in all of his run.
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>>108259552
this is why you need to shit on EVERYONE using numbers that aren't real because they deserve to be shat on
none of those numbers are real
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Youre going to Xorrag too
>Depressed before quitting a shitty battle
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Homofans cant do math, who woulda thought?
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>>108259741
If you divide their income by 2 then you'd also have to divide their stream #, stream time and everything else by 2 and then put it into relation.
Not to mention them not spending double.
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>>108259846
>more merch being released
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>>108259877
Ruffians do, actually.

They also buy two (or four in the case of limited/unlimited) of each if the merch is divided between Fuwawa and Mococo. They're fucking insane consumerist animals
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>>108258842
Yes except that she doesnt plan very well and will decide games or movies just before the stream
Also mandatory 40 minutes of her doing bits before the stream really starts
Also her hands are fucked so she’s spending a lot of time flying to see various doctors for tests, so she’s not as active as she wants to be
Other than that she’s my fav
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>>108259877
they should do more solo streams just to get more SC from people who only want to give money to mococo and not to her evil sister
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>>108259902
They certainly can, but it's always skewed beacuse they need to justify their existence
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>>108259863
They share the same living space, the rest is up to interpretation.
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>>108259863
That’s actually an interesting question does cover split payments or is it up to fwmc to do it when it comes to money from sc or sponsors
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>>108259137
IGGER
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>>108259916
Evidently not if beggars can just split their revenue
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Even Roboco, one of the worst performing Holos, owns real estate and runs around wearing Hermes.
Meanwhile there's quite a lot of Homos that have to work a 2nd job just to survive.

Those stats are nice and all but they can not possibly be telling the whole truth.
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>>108259724
She's still selling ~5-6x the limiteds that clownshitter did. When you consider that's for only one merch run of multiple in a year, it's not even a contest at this point.
Nerissa needs to up her game and stream more but the fact remains even underperforming Holos are worth an order of magnitude more than homoshitters.
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>>108259932
Do you think cover cares? They just give it to the fuwamoco account. Whoever uses it the most is just greedy.
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>>108259741
Moreover, if you divide it by 2, then be fair and give FWMC two 3D lives every year. They should get 2 of everything every other holo gets 1 of. holoFES and concert songs and performances too.

It's only fair, right?
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>>108259932
>Fuwawa Abyssgard and Mococo Abyssgard were counted as one person
It's very unlikely they do something special for them as far as anything monetary is concerned.
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>>108259964
>Whoever uses it the most is just greedy.
>Moco-chan give me your credit card I need to buy these 1200 yen grapes heheheheheh
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Why would I SC the girls they already make so much fucking money, my $10 isn’t going to matter to them, I’d much rather buy merch where at least I get something nice out of the deal. Fuck look at Ina, like 50% of her streams are sponsors trying to sell you stuff and you want to throw more money at them?
As a fan I feel no obligation to SC and don’t even get the feeling my SC would matter if I did, so I don’t. I expect the homo losers are different and feel like giving SCs is a way to keep their pitiful branches alive another month
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>>108259975
They do get 2 performances every concert already though
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>>108259783
HoloJP girls have some of the highest superchat totals on all of Youtube. But when you consider that most of that mattered more pre 2022 when you consider that Rushia and Coco are still near the top of total superchats rankings. Once Cover started pushing merch there isn’t much reason to encourage their viewers give 30% of their donations to Youtube.
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>>108259924
If its always skewed then they can't do math.
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>>108259774
actually you need to mulitply by two because the same amount of people are watching each person on screen
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>>108259964
What fuwamoco account? They have separate bank accounts by virtue of being two adults.
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>>108259955
Can someone post the one faggot moving out of the trash pile and the one homofan so happy to see him move out of the trash pile. They are destitute as fuck.
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FUWAMOCO don't even show gratitude for superchats anymore because they know people will keep sending it. They have 6 months old backlogs and even for new year's eve instead of reading anything all they could muster was a bau bau for hundreds of dollars. Yet they remain top dogs so it's hard to fault them.
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>>108259884
Nerissa probably sold more birthday merch than all of the homoEN branch, or close to it at the very least.
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>>108259975
>holoFES and concert songs and performances too.
I was defending them earlier, but hold up. You are being fucking retarded here because everybody who actually buys tickets and watches concerts knows FuwaMoco do get double the performances.
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>>108260058
Last year they got triple

>Fuwawa
>Mococo
>...FWMC?
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>>108259964
>>108259988
I just assumed that both would have separate contracts
idk enough contract law if 2 people can enter an agreement with a company without each having separate contracts
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>>108260024
Fuwawa manages all the finances and doesn’t let mococo see the money, like a husband who doesn’t let his wife have access to the money so they can’t leave him easily.
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Reminder that barely two months after Coca Cola sponsored Mikkorone24 last year Miko BOUGHT an apartment in Central Tokyo within walking distance to the studio.
Sponsorships are serious fucking business, I would be shocked if Miko and Korone didn't both make high 6 digits minimum from that stream.
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>>108259222
Indie Avengers, assemble!!!
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>>108260058
That's not true though, many times they get a fuwamoco slot, not two.
They also don't get two 3D lives. So you're halving their income but not giving them each a full 100%.
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It's funny how quickly this turned into shitting on the holos after people started to push back on the beggar nonsense
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Are timechaser playing something or is it just a yapping/harassment stream?
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>>108259613
He is. He was also the twilight... guy, and probably the same person who made all those long winded falseflag youtube accounts for Advent and others
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>>108259924
They conveniently ignore Youtube’s cut or the fact that Cover’s cut has to also pay for their managers, which there are probably way too many of. (And by too many I mean that more than one manager for the whole branch is far too many)
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>>108260082
isn’t it opposite for the nips?
they mowan controls the finances so the husband doesn’t spend it all at soaplands
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>>108260095
>you
I'm not you retard. You're the one pretending they get equal treatment to other girls when they have always gotten favoritism in concerts
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>>108260117
Well who is the husband and who is the wife in the FWMC household
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fwmc fell off....
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>>108260043
I don’t get how some of these girls don’t just give up on SC readings when the backlog is like that. Just do what other girls do and acknowledge them and if it’s funny or interesting you can read it then. I think SC reading streams are the most boring streams and skip them all and wish they went away
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>>108260134
Off my cock...
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>>108260090
>BOUGHT an apartment in Central Tokyo
You are looking at a lot more than a mil for something like that lmao
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>>108259961
Even the IDs do better in merch runs and their consumer base (sans Kaela) consists of mostly third worlders. I’m pretty sure someone proved that even Lofi has higher merch sales.
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>>108260090
Coke thrown millions of dollars to hololive for the NYC, hologra, talents advertising and alot of talent shorts
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>>108260143
I assure you some ruffians wish they did. I know I'm not the only one who would like to see them stop putting everything into their backlog. They could well just keep SC readings to specific streams where they say "we'll read SCs of this stream at the end" at the start.

The huge backlog isn't good for them and it just keeps piling on.
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>>108259741
>nta but why do people not divide FWMC's numbers by 2?
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>>108260095
>They also don't get two 3D lives. So you're halving their income but not giving them each a full 100%.
???????
you mean halving their expenses
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>>108260143
Biboo just always does SC reading at the end of the streams. Dont even remember her last "SC reading" stream.
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>>108259552
Here is the thing though, because they spin themselves around in circles trying their best to legitimize them at any turn. If you have the whales, why don't they watch their oshis? Or is it because they are the ones that have the crazed fans who shell out their life savings getting groomed and the arguments used on unicorns were projection? And if they are doing so fine, why do the girls need to give them anything? Shouldn't they be arguing amongst themselves to step up the visual support and not just cash? Because having your "oshis" beg you to participate for a concert is not a good look. They need to spend less time inflitrating the girl's fanbases and more time on their own.
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>>108260155
Migo's apartment very huge, it might be an entire floor
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>>108260095
>They also don't get two 3D lives.
They don't, but other that everything else others has said, they have longer run times for their 3D lives than a single holomem. It's not 2 hours, but still longer than average.
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>>108260090
You think a downtown Tokyo apartment costs 100k to own? lol
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>>108260176
It would also kill some of their attentionwhore schizos.
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>>108260179
I just realised something. Wouldn't that mean Fuwamoco gets the short end of the stick in terms of finance since they are tow people but counted as one person which mean 2 people gets the same pay as 1 person would get in Holo?
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>>108260143
they don't make that many in SCs on average. lot of girls have better averages
the difference is they just let them pile up
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Miko must be pulling 7 figures yearly now. She's one of the top streamers in the world.
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Miko must be marrying me anytime soon
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>>108260203
Holy ESL
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>>108260185
People never do that. Shitposters only halve their income and go "uh huh they only made x/2 each".
They never bother to think about FWMC not getting 200% of everything else nor do they care to account for them not both spending the full amount on everything. If they release an orisong they don't both pay 100% for it.
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Not even Rider believes what these retards are trying to peddle
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>>108260203
>If you have the whales, why don't they watch their oshis?
The whales watch them, what?
That's literally the ONLY people that watch them, is their whales and couple hundred fans
Beggarniggers are neither, they don't watch, they don't donate, they just sit on twitter and seethe about them being Potential Man because it gets them brownie points in their insufferable twittard circle
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>>108260090
>>108260175
one of the Twitch streamers (non-vtuber) I watch got a Raid Shadowlegends sponsorship before and they paid him over 30k USD for 1h of shilling with around 3k CCV and that was just an offer he got just like that without negotiating much at all or having any weight to throw around from being an established brand
i can only imagine how much fucking money cover makes off of these stupid shadowba sponsorships alone that shit has to be nutty never even fucking mind the actual big sponsors like coke or bandai and shit that have been popping up over the last few years
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>>108260291
how does one threaten someone with numbers and money what is this
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>>108258957
she actually loves her fans
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>>108260232
Yes anon, that's how it works.
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>>108260323
Man, i really want to know how much those sponsors get them
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https://x.com/i/status/2006914346023289275
>it wasn't us it was an external company we swear!
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>>108260339
>Listen girl, if you don't do exactly as I say, I'll with draw my money and support, got it? Now stop collabing with those men you want to collab with so much and become my slave

Something like this I guess. In a beggar's mind every single girl wants to collab with the stars. That is the default state. It's only because of external factors that they feel pressured to not do so. You're basically holding them hostage with your parasocial incel gachikoi money or something like that.
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japs are saying that gigi's deck is fucking busted lmao
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>>108260204
Wasn’t she basically a country bumpkin before she joined Hololive?
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>>108260383
You're missing the point. That means Fuwamoco usually would be poorer since two people would pay more from food and other stuff. That means they are living in some mid tier apartment
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>>108258064
wait didn't Kiara have an idea like this?
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>>108260323
the offer of getting paid 50k yen to do a 1 hour Among Us collab together was turned down by half the branch a few years ago
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>>108260435
No I'm not missing any point.
They have bigger expenses relative to the money they make than the others, that's a fact.
There is no point to be missing there.

Being two people also has some advantages of course but it really doesn't feel like they've been leveraging them very well so far.
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>>108260404
Changing angle already?
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>>108260407
Wasn't this proven true in case of Shiori and Fauna?
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>>108260339
He's imagining that >we are threatening that, in reality he's responding to criticisms from /here/ where we've all said homocollabing negatively impacts virtually all metrics for a Holo.
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>>108259552
Didn't Axehomo and the spic beg for SC by drawing pfp?
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>>108260411
>search a 2nd and field it once per game
It's literally a turbo button
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>>108260232
It just doesn't work like that. No one knows how much Fuwawa and Mococo would earn on their own.
All you know is how much FWMC earn together as a duo channel. And that living together and doing everything together obviously almost halves your overall expenses. I say almost because they both still eat and drink and they might need slightly more of this and that. But all the big expenses are shared. From rent to paying for songs or commissions and so on.
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>>108260303
Thats my point, because there are legit fans of theirs who sprout the same rhetoric the beggars do. My argument if they actually cared is to turn their ire to the ones who claim to care but don't, not at fans of the girls.
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>>108260501
Also Axehomo's mom died and he got a fat check thanks to it
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>>108260517
>they both still eat and drink
Mococo eats three strawberries a day
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>>108260339
The reality of the invisible gun is that it's simply withdrawing support or people not wanting to engage in content that they don't like, beggars don't engage in anything so that is seen like as major violation since they can't imagine even supporting shit in the first place
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>>108260520
ESL chama
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>>108260411
this is probably my favorite official art of gigi, her expression, pose, colors, outfit — its just so good
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>>108260462
Oh yeah I forgot about that Discord leak
Wasn't Kiara like trying to get people to sign up but nobody really wanted to bother for the 500$?
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>>108260541
I know, they barely eat and they pretty much only drink water and tea, so they live very affordable lives except for Fuwawa's premium fruit. They don't even own proper furniture.
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>>108260565
yep it's where
>please respond
came from
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>>108260577
I do remember them being very frugal but I think it was because they are saving funds to get buy a house/apartment
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>>108260565
She was asking in the sponsor server and people weren't really checking there
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>>108260291
>>108260339
Money is a consequence, the biggest threat/deterrent is attention, believe it or not, they are vtubers because of the fans, gachi love can be creepy, but it is also empowering and they would like to keep that, instead of relying on unattached tourists for validation (and money).
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so where are the 2025 stats?
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>>108260609
I don't think they'll ever stop being like this, they're too afraid of the gravy train suddenly stopping one day and then what. They know hardship.
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>>108260617
archives go search it not that hard
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>>108260609
They have lived there almost 2 years now and still have cardboard boxes as tables and their tv stand.
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>>108260552
You can spout ESL this or ESL that, your logic doesn't work. The only thing you're proving is either being a poor troll or an idiot.
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>https://www.reddit.com/r/Holostars/comments/1q1t9ro/hololyzer_superchat_and_live_memberships_2025/
If the boys make comparable money to the girls why aren't they releasing original songs and pretty music videos and doing big projects and so on?
Are they all greedy and cheap?
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>>108260641
surely we can post it again so i can do holo vs holo organically
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>>108260679
Hakka does a lot of covers tho
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>>108260106
No, Twilight is a different guy. He is an Indog and Phasefag. He falseflags with
>Elizabeth, Ruze's and Hakka's Thorn sword
And other shit, see picrel. Percy is a gay Kazach that moved to the US and he is on jurard's payroll while making shitty edits and being /here/. He also used his own Radlib account to call himself based on the homosubreddit for sticking his micropenis in a tubfull of vaselibe and posting it on twitter
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>>108258842
>>108259918
We hate Cecilia since she ruined Kiara's relay by being late and scuffed.
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>>108260679
that's probably a bad argument considering Nerissa the singer of Advent has zero originals since her first anniversary
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>>108259731
>Surely these dumbasses gotta realize that the money is in merchandise and sponsorships, right?

Anon these retards are terminally /here/. Who do you think is the bloodraven niggers are? They only have one motto to destroy the so callled incel-idol culture of en and btfo legendary unicorns. They know merch and sponsors are >> SC but they cant use those things
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>>108260714
That's based of her, I love CC even more now
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>>108260714
CC's turn had one of the biggest increases in viewership throughout the entire relay. Only IRyS' was larger.
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>>108260679
how did CC and Nerissa got mogged by the homos
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>>108260616
To be fair, Shiori didn't seem to have suffered one bit numbers wise after ditching gachikos and actively collabing with homos, both in supas and ccv. Nerissa and FWMC had a bigger superchat decrease than her.
It seems this threat is no longer real, and only remaining threat they want to avoid is harassment from the gachis themselves
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>>108260716
Yes and Nerissa is greedy and cheap and doesn't care about her fans
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>>108260716
Because Nerissa is lazy just like Gura was excluding the month breaks. Nerissa is genuinely one of the most despicable characters in hololive and it is not because of her personality but because of how lazy she has become. Wasted potential
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>>108260704
pretty sure sgd is Singapore
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>>108259046
Lol no, Suisei is successful and does shit, ERB is nowhere near comparable in that aspect. Meanwhile Sui's support is more "thoughts and prayers" unlike ERBs very material support. Suisei only cares about the homos because she is a unityfag, any crumbs she used to give them have faded since she has bigger avenues to be a unityfag on now.
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>>108260753
CC barely streamed and had a whole bunch of expensive merch
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>>108260704
Indog, singaporian,same shit both SEA
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>>108260679
>Rio almost 400 streams
>8k USD over the entire year
poor dude
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>>108259552
>he thinks mococo actually gets half
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>>108259137
fook
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>>108260679
if cover actually invested in holostars theyd mog tf out of live
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>>108260801
Have you considered that some people actually enjoy streaming and don't just do it for money unlike most holo girls?
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>>108260799 is meant for >>108260784
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>>108260792
so just like IRyS, she even has more merchs from collabs, yet they are so far apart
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>>108260769
Her earnings went down a cliff from June to October
Her CCV couldn't possibly go lower
Even her mindshare in regards to fanart and fanfictions went down because ShioRaven effectively died
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>>108260844
IRyS does 3 hours of superchat reading after every single stream, CC stopped trying to keep up with superchats after the first month
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>>108260847
ShioRaven died because Nerissa started licking up to erb.
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>>108260844
Correct me if I'm wrong but I swear IRyS reads a ton of SCs while CC practically never does
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>>108260704
>He also used his own Radlib account to call himself based on the homosubreddit for sticking his micropenis in a tubfull of vaseline and posting it on twitter
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>>108260866
so where do the low streams and expensive merchs suddenly go?
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>>108260818
Have we got the vstats for the whole of 2025 yet?
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>>108260520
The only thing I see the whales posting is femgooning
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>>108260844
>comparing anyone to literally the strongest Hololive member for day to day SCs since Rushia
bro?
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>>108260847
Still lower decrease than FWMC and Nerissa
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>>108260679
Shiori member subs will always baffle me. Mori being the queen makes sense given her member content and doing entire concerts now behind it but Shiori has consistently been at the top without any of that. I guess it’s just a lot of gift sub bombs?
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>>108260716
two 3D live in 2025 for Nerissa
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>>108260883
she did read, she just doesn't have a dedicated streams or section for it
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>>108260818
FWMC inclined again, from 6100 to 6400, from fifth place to fourth place in HoloEN CCV averages.

Good, good. Wonder if they can get to 7000 or more.
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>>108260704
This is the fag that donated to Biboo once and never again, might have gotten blocked.
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>>108260880
Somehow it feels like she picked up Kiara's worst traits and never managed to overcome them.
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>>108260898
I'm not the guy you replied to, that's just cope. How many superchats a girl gets depends mostly on how much they "bait" superchats, IRyS gets many because she reads every single one of them and actually engages with them for several minutes per superchat unless they're too autistic, CC might read one here and there if she notices it live but she mostly just ignores them.
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>>108260917
She has the best members content in EN and it isn't close.
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>>108260880
Jailbirds left because Nerissa started licking up to ERB and not stream
Her SC's left because Nerissa started licking up to ERB and not stream
Her members left because Nerissa started licking up to ERB and not stream
Her fanartist left because she started licking up to ERB
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>>108260917
doesn’t she do a fair amount of membership content
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>>108260769
Shiori still does her quasi gfe streams, yuribaits with Zeta (harder than she ever did with Nerissa), and most importantly she never went retard on stream.

She banned some people, me included, didn't talk about it, never mentioned it, and basically let the storm pass.
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>>108259137
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>>108260880
Not really, ShioRaven survived ERB's debut and it went along fine for the beginning of 2025

It died on March. Shiori invited Nerissa to play Monster Hunter, Nerissa fell ill and had to cancel, Shiori bricks and Nerissa instead plays MonHun with Raora and Moona.
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>>108260917
How does it baffle you that a top 5 holo EN streamer like Shiori gets a lot of memberships? I genuinely want to understand your logic, anon
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>>108260965
Then why did FWMC have a substantially bigger decline in supas?
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>>108260962
oh I do think she has great member content but she is double or triple the rest of the other advent girls which is crazy to me
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>>108260777
What are you even on? She had four originals before her first year was up, and has numerous works with other Holomem and others, including helping others with their music, calling her lazy smells like a bad attempt to spark Holo vs. Holo.
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>>108261000
They stopped reading them and basically stopped streaming in the second half of the year.
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>>108260965
anon nerissa pushes bloodraven more than erb at some point you have to stop blaming everyone else for rissa problems
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>>108260679
These numbers also aren't real
Eat the total world or my asshole
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>>108260960
i get that, i'm just not expecting it to be that low, surely she got lot of events or milestones in 2025 to farm SCs and beat the homos, same with Nerissa
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>>108261000
They barely streamed from February to June.

It was a nightmare, and a lot of revenue lost.
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>>108261000
unironically moving to japan
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>>108260977
>cheats on you with homo collabs
>pretends it didn't happen and love bombs you
>yaps about wierd shit
is shiori the true gfe streamer?
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>>108261000
Fwmc had a decline in everything. Did you see their collab numbers yesterday? They got beat by Bae and fucking Liz of all people. LIZ
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>>108261000
Well I am just done watching a vod of Fuwamoco with my son but I don't know what you mean. They just are appealing to different types of audiences. Woof Wood!
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>>108261000
They moved to Japan and started streaming less frequently. And when they do stream half of it is at JST instead of their last regular PST start time.
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>>108261046
And you need to divide that ccv by 1.5 at least kek, since its two members.
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>>108260965
If you think this is a coincedence. Everything started falling apart after ENreco 2's recap stream for her. SC kept dropping, CCV kept dropping, Fans became outraged over no thumbnail and a shitty 2nd anniversary, fans became outraged at AfO (especially after the first thing she said in the post AfO talk was about ERB and not even about herself), fans became outraged after she quit communicating and randomly turned up with ERB at IronLung's concert, etc.
>>108261000
Last year Fuwamoco reached 1m, won vtuber of the year, 3D debut, more streams
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>>108261046
>referring to a collab from just a few hours ago as "yesterday"
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>non-fonbang bratea
we are so back
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>>108260883
>>108260960
For the record, your cause and effect are flipped. IRyS never reads karaoke SCs because if she doesn't read SCs for a stream on the same day she will never ever do catch up for them.
To easily calculate how much she earns on streams that she never reads SCs on, her 12 karaoke streams in 2025 get a median of $816 and a mean of $1438, and she had a similar median of $970 in her 20 karaokes in 2024. $816 is still a better per-stream median than every other member in the entire company this year. For SCs she is guaranteed to not read.
She reads a lot of SCs because she gets a lot of SCs.
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>>108261105
babydoll in shambles
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Nimi did pretty well
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>>108259137
see, Shiori is not fat
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>>108261038
always has been. the member streams especially are full on love bombs with stuff like impromptu karaoke in most of them
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>>108261021
She's being groomed by twitterfaggot and Cover is assisting them. Meanwhile every time something of her doesn't sell out or her numbers drop she has a menhera outburst like it came out of nowhere
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>>108260836
nah singaporean needs to feel responsible when they have twilight the /vt/ /#/ addict pic related and the "DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM?" guy representing their country here
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>>108259313
8/10 times you get called an ESL, the one calling you one is actually ESL.
Plus /vt/ itself has a lot of ESLniggers
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>>108261116
She also gets a lot of SCs because people know she'll read the SCs. It goes both ways.
Same with Kiara for example.
Ina gets very little because people know at most she'll look at it during the stream and MAYBE answer it if very lucky, otherwise it's gone.
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>>108261075
>>108261046
Last month they streamed 20 times, third biggest in HoloEN only behind Biboo and Gigi, and not by a lot even. 12 of those streams were at NA-friendly times.

Also please learn your fucking place.
DEC 2025 EN GOLD
PER STREAMER
9x: Bijou
6x: IRyS
5x: FUWAMOCO
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>>108261026
>surely she got lot of events or milestones in 2025 to farm SCs
She got a birthday and an anniversary, same as everyone else. For her birthday she did one of those ensemble gimmick collabs where she couldn't read superchats and then she never did a follow up stream to read them, so all of the birthday SCs she did get went unread. Same thing for her anniversary from what I remember.
>>108261116
>She reads a lot of SCs because she gets a lot of SCs.
CC doesn't get a lot of SCs and most of them still go unread so if she got more she likely still wouldn't read more
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>>108261105
is spreading...
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>>108260977
>She banned some people, me included
lol owned
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>>108261105
Something I've noticed about non-Fongban Brattea is that it's just...CCGG but if Gigi had red hair.

Down to the teeth and grin, even.
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>>108260946
>Wonder if they can get to 7000 or more.
Sir, two months of Minecraft dual streams have hit the tower...
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>>108261173
That doesn't explain how they got best by Liz, though
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>>108261204
You are now realizing why GG was called Bae 2.0
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>>108261204
It is WAY better than autofister. The master of chaos with a doll robot, cool!
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>>108261232
This but unironically
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>>108261075
>half of it is at JST
Nope.
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>>108261204
Brattea is the replacement for people that miss Preydator and an alt-CCGG for people that don't like Gigi
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>>108261174
on top of my head, BD, Anniv, 3D debut, EN concert, and idk if the kimono reveal is this year or last year
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>>108261232
>How to draw Brattea
>Draw CCGG
>Change a few details
>Voila
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>>108260977
>didn't talk about it, never mentioned it, and basically let the storm pass.
This is the one secret to not destroying your career that a lot of vtubers seem to not understand.
Just not engaging or acknowledging drama goes a long way, hell look at how well it worked for Fillian, when the nendoroid thing happened she basically just went "oops lol" and everyone forgot about it by the 3rd day.
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>>108261243
Well the math is right at least, they get 35% (half of the 70% after YT)
There's also a very small base salary and membership income though and then whatever they get from merch.

Membership money is really good. Think about a holo with 5k members. Even with a very conservative assumption (mixed currencies) of that only being 3 dollars each instead of 5, that's a dollar per person per month, so another 5k monthly, once again going with 35%
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>>108261278
You know people can but enjoy ships without hating other ships, right?
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>>108261038
For it to be cheating or NTR, you would have to be sexually threatened by a filipino or an indian
My penis is above 6 inches and my skin is white, so that simply isn't going to happen
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>>108261306
Oh sorry, I hit s instead of a, my bad. Now with that out of the way, how did they get beat by liz?
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>>108261327
That's impossible for Twitter shipfags. I'm a BibRyStocrat, but I love Babydoll and InaRyS too
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>>108261003
Consistency is key, she always has at least one member's video, one member's activity (usually resulting in a stream) and often times a game with members every month.
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Why beggars think homos are more valuable than fuwamoco when fuwamoco can sell more than 1500 stocks of merch while homos can't even sell 500
>inb4 halve it
700+ is still more than the homos, also their merch collabs sell like pancakes
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>>108260977
>>108261289
There is also another key detail that happened on the week after the Brick and that is
>Advent all closed ranks around Shiori and protected her.
The Shiboo date, Nerissa retweeting ShioRaven and talking about how much she loves Shiori, even FWMC talking about Shiori on their prechat.

While it was undeserved and Shiori should have tanked the heat by herself, it was a good show of unity and helped other Advent fanbases relax a little around Shiori.
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>>108261164
Ive noticed that Singapore exports alot of mentally ill holo fans. Another example is an Irys fan who killed himself after leaking the photos of her attending a wedding.
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>>108261003
Those numbers are gifted/new members and she gets a ton of gifted every stream
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>>108261327
this is impossible, TimeRyS and Kromei are mortal enemies
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>>108261347
>My penis is above 6 inches and my skin is white, so that simply isn't going to happen
But you are over 350lbs and can't see it
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>>108261132
kill yourself biboo schizo
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>>108261327
Fongban has made it very clear that she doesn't like CCGG, even if Autofister sisters have done literally nothing to her
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>>108261327
Yes people can, but can twitter niggers?
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>>108260991
>>108260880
All ships except crack ships require fuel to actually sail
Nerissa barely streaming or doing much and now living in Japan kind of hampers it, although her and Shiori do still play around with each other during collabs and off-stream they're still the same as they were
But Nerissa has her ships split between like five fucking girls and barely streams on top of it, and when she does most attention tends to drift towards bloodraven (I am completely neutral on this, and do not care much) so it overshadows the others a bit (fuwarissa on the rise, though)
tl;dr ships need fuel
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>>108261369
it did help that shiori has kept the homocollabs separated for the most part, it doesn't really bleed into her content with the girls so its easy to ignore for the rest of the adventrix
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>>108261327
Autofister fans are all exclusively Twitter faggots and will hate anything that's not those two
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>>108261400
I weigh a nice 180lb at 6'4, sorry
But being a lanklet is acceptable when white, I'm sorry that you lost the genetic lottery
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>>108261351
>Oh sorry, I hit s instead of a, my bad
You missed another mistake in that sentence.
>how did they get beat by liz?
Because they weren't streaming in their normal timeslot to the same audience.
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>>108261458
Nigga...the only reason Gremreaper and Timechaser still exist is because of Autofister sisters.
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>>108261327
Brattea's biggest shipper specially draws Brattea because she doesn't like popular ships, its like her whole thing during Council prime
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>>108261407
Fongban made a post saying she likes ccgg, but their fans are toxic. Which is true
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holoID got hit with the "it's the holocure song"...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MleYywFef1Q
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>>108261471
You think that timeslot is any better for Liz...?
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>>108261483
the main issue is they are almost all clipwatchers
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>>108261483
I dare you to find me any post of Autofister sisters shitting on other ships, it's even easier to find them shitting on Autofister itself.
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>>108261364
Because they think they beat some girls in one metric means the homos are better than the girls and profitable when in reality the girls are bringing in the sponsors, collabs with merch brands and stores. Bae's one dice collab brought in more money than their top homo superchat numbers and that's from a number's runt like Bae.
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>>108261483
That is true. CCGG shippers usually whine when there is a different ship about either one.
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* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Here it goes
>185,331: Pekora (Hololive)
>52,253: Subaru (Hololive)
>50,581: Mio (Hololive)
>47,271: ReGLOSS (Hololive)
>45,036: Ririka (Hololive)
>43,971: Vivi (Hololive)
>43,290: Kanade (Hololive)
>43,258: Hajime (Hololive)
>42,620: Riona (Hololive)
>40,683: Su (Hololive)
>39,216: Raden (Hololive)
>37,770: Chihaya (Hololive)
>35,715: Niko (Hololive)
>22,974: Koyori (Hololive)
>20,637: Fubuki (Hololive)
>19,716: Botan (Hololive)
>18,428: Ren (Nijisanji)
>17,119: Lamy (Hololive)
>16,490: Sendo (VSPO)
>15,079: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>14,217: Ayame (Hololive)
>14,192: NeruMero (Indie)
>13,791: Patra (Indie)
>13,286: Kagami (Nijisanji)
>12,930: Sho (Nijisanji)
>10,997: Lui (Hololive)
>10,628: Patra (Indie)
>10,466: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>10,352: Lulu (Nijisanji)
>10,121: Salome (Nijisanji)
>10,042: Gigi (Hololive)

Gold for Pekora with the 24 hours sankisei stream with Subaru getting silver with Holo mem relationship chart and Mio, bronze
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>>108261519
Actually autofister antis are totally sane and definitely not schizo as you can see here:
https://warosu.org/vt/?task=search&ghost=false&search_text=%22clanker+clanker%22&offset=0
This person is in this thread btw.
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>>108261407
Fongban s weird i think she’s conditioned to hate popular ships because of council shippers because she draws ggbae often
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>>108261494
ID bro's our mindshare...
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>>108261458
nigga they draw every GG and CC ships with no exceptions, the fuck are you talking about
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>>108261327
I only hate BloodRaven. I don't hate any other Nerissa ship. Not because i am partial to one other ship, but simply because i am a non shipper jailbird. My hate for BloodRaven is based on the obnoxious shippers that wanna bring down Nerissa and the horrid contentvthe make together. I couldn't care less about a ship as long as they make fun content and the fans are reasonable. After all, the best ship is obviously babygirl x me.
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>>108261581
She prefers ships that exist. She used to draw BaeRyS long time ago, then she moved to Preydator, and everyone who actually watches streams knows Bae's best friend was Mumei.
It's not about popularity, it's being honest about the relationships between members
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>>108261458
>>108261483
didnt you get btfod like yeterday? >>108229978
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>>108261579
Jesus christ
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>>108261424
>But Nerissa has her ships split between like five fucking girls and barely streams on top of it, and when she does most attention tends to drift towards bloodraven
That's the issue. BloodRaven is being pushed, without fuel
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the fag that keeps pushing this autofister sisters are bullies is the same person that hates yuri
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>>108261503
Do you think lunch/afternoon for EU is better for a european streamer or a stream where the entire US is either asleep or driving to work? Her numbers don't improve significantly if she does a stream for NA primetime.
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>>108261640
Fongban hates yuri, that's why he always transifies Bae
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DECEMBER VIEW/TIME RANKINGS

See the picture for the numbers. Just look at the big table on top for the quickest results; or the one on the bottom for individual ranks.
>If you want a quick summary, there is a lot of fluctuation inside the categories this month, but in general most categories are stagnant, fluctuating according to events. In general the #shorts vertical lives are getting kinda low ccv but good views; and there has been some shameless episodes of botting.

>I’m using the metric (vod) views/time because it seems to be the best metric we can use for comparisons.
>There’s no way to calculate direct hours watched without having access to data analytics from inside each channel owner or bullshitting it; simply counting total views doesn’t take into account how much did they stream to get there (and they usually count small skits and music videos as well); and live viewers (on youtube) are very buggy and cut off a significant portion of that real number (for example, comparison between Miko’s twitch and youtube minecraft streams seem to indicate that 35% of her yt live viewers numbers are hidden [read the OP or the whole thread >>2253454 for anons discussion on the possible reasons for it) (not to mention that twitch max live viewers are constantly influenced by twitch raids coming from other channels). Or see this <span class="deadlink">>>17329929 for mori-mousey split pov numbers.</span>

>Reading and trying to compare all those ratios for each hour length would have been a pain, so that’s why I’ve already made the ranking tables, with ranks for inside each time length.
>The longer the stream time, the fewer vtubers that had any videos available to calculate.
>Never compare general view/time ratios of streamers who have very different stream duration averages - that’s why I just don`t rank those anymore, since people are too dumb.
>Only compare data (or ranks) from the same time length.

>For combining those ranges from each time length, i inverted each position into a fraction (position/total), calculated the average of all available time-length fractions for each streamer, and then compared those resulting numbers: the smaller your fraction is, it means the higher yours positions were, so you rank higher.
>You can see a practical example (from may) here: >>4423534.

>Video types like short skits, short amvs/covers/original songs, watchalongs, members-only, sc-only, or deleted were not included for the calculations.
>Videos analyzed for 'this month' are from the time period of 30-11-25 to 01-01-26 (~12:00 jst)

>You can see the biggest individual growth fluctuations with those vtubers who had some huge special stream (like 3ds, costumes, returns, tournaments).
>They can be big rises if the special vids happened on this month; or big falls if the special vids occurred on last month.
>On those cases you can see % change of one specific time length way superior than the rest for that vtuber.

>Collecting all this data was a whole lot of work, so no promises that I’ll be doing this again, or as big of a list. And im getting tired of adding all the new debuting midgets.
>I don’t think I missed anyone too big, I left out the smaller nijisanjis, or holostars or whoever else because I don’t have the time to include them all - but I did include a few smaller ones just out of curiosity.
>Expect the list of checked vtubers to be cut by a good number on the next month.
>And no "now im suddenly a vtuber" trendhoppers were included either.
>If you think I left out someone relevant you can try convincing me to do their numbers as well, although if they are too small I’ll just tell you to fuck off. Or you can just calculate it yourself and post it here, not too hard.

>I didnt proofread this, if something mentions september is because i forgot to update the text or pic.
>i think on last thread someone asked if i would update those names. Definitely not for this month version, as it will likely mess with some formulas. Give me a full list of those names youd like changed and ill see what i can do for next time. Short lists will be ignored.

>do not repost cutouts of this without the full source.

>i will reply to myself with that top vtubers history pic
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>>108259552
>FWMC only $165k in 2025
Holy fuck, that is a -63% decrease in earnings from last year.
https://www.reddit.com/r/HoloStatistics/comments/1hqx26e/hololyzer_superchat_and_live_memberships_2024/
https://www.reddit.com/r/HoloStatistics/comments/1hqx26e/hololyzer_superchat_and_live_memberships_2024/
Thats -$285k decrease. Wtf happened. Where did half of their paypigs go
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>>108261579
Isn't that just selenfag you can even see their early posts using bibot
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>>108261424
Ships can run on fumes if need be. The one baerys sister is completely fueled on the new years streams for 2 years now. You just need a schizo dedicated enough to keep it running until the next hit.
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>>108261585
seethe, nerissa likes it
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>>108261673
Most of grems do that to gigi as well so I see no issue
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kroni more like kotni
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>>108261424
>But Nerissa has her ships split between like five fucking girls
Only ERB, let's be real. Yomosaka is the last shioraven samurai, there is 1 (one) guy in /ope/ who likes fuwarissa, and her ship with Kiara is dead. Who even is the fifth?
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>>108261637
..did you really just take ten minutes to make that because someone called you brown for cuckposting?
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>>108261627
the only fuel that shippers care about is Nerissa's attention. it's all about engagement. it doesn't matter if Nerissa and ERB don't collab. if Nerissa is constantly supporting it on her feed that's all that matters.
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>>108261616
>She prefers ships that exist
>Draws Kronii x Raora
Definetly.

The ship that has collabed 109 times and travelled across Cali? Nah...Brattea, that's the real thing.
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>>108261640
Yuri is dogshit and yurifags need to rope, you're no different than the twitter trannies pushing yuri ships in Uma
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>>108261716
Took me 30 seconds
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>>108261680

me again, and here's the vtubers ranks history, updated. This one is not supposed to be perfect especially for the past years having worse sources, but it gives a good indication I guess. As usual the 0h and 1h were filled with events and special streams. The koreans remain out of twitch now, while there are sometimes a few rare lives and vods they upload on youtube that i can use. Ive deleted a few shitters from the list. Theres been a lot of massive yet cheap botting to some streamers on the list, like for toru,vox,luca,bijou,mori,nimi,hayama,ars,elira,etc, but their vods have barely changed, if it all - its probably what people said that their bots add the ccv to vod views with 0 renovation (or maybe youtube actually removes them in the afterstream verification, im not sure), so they matter very little to the total vods (not that all bots dont add a lot of vod views, but this one sure doesnt).
- an EN ccv might also be back again idk.
- peanuts will not be added obviously, the vstats fag is a sellout retard

As things of interest:
- korone had her best position in a year
- kanata had her best position ever
- vivi had her best position ever
- luna had her best position ever
- irys had her best position in a year
- riona had her best position ever


first original receipts post >>79756763 81989530 84268876 86550661 88676348 90736541 92809857 94868989 96640719 98630326 99658860 100782558 101863947 102991396 104109997 105105044 >>106243958
more receipts below

And no, ennacuck’s (this retard >>96281878) infrequent cheap-sabotage botting wont be included for obvious reasons. watch for the tranny samefag spamming replies as usual.

search keyword abcd5555
106741811 kuzuha dead chat speeds
107633909 kuzuha dead chat speeds
peanut bots 107511472 107498115 107613389 107613208 107613348 107526927 107597401 108252564
106393170 Kuzuha 45k stream with the chat speed lower than a 6k stream
106422335 laurens inconsistent ccv numbers despite being the same team as kuzuha
107005198 107005184 more nijis with dumb botted graphs
107015358 aparently niji tournament bots went to the wrong stream, making its final get the worst numbers in relation to the previous days
107158644 107158561 107158663 nijibots activating mid stream, kuzuha getting really low numbers due to that
107189340 107189354 107189368 107189375 fubuki getting nearly 10x more chat speed than vspo or kuzuha at similar ccv
107395104 vedal wave bots every single stream on twitch
108155626 108155699 many likes to ccv ratios compared - kuzuha, some nijis and vspo are always fucking low and suspicious
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>>108261680
>HoloJP +56%
Is that

Is that normal
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>>108261637
I don't say this often, but in the words of some retarded faggots "uh oh, melty"
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>>108261697
Yeah, sure she does Flip BloodRaven
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>>108261689
No. This is clankerschizo who will use any narrative to shit on her, but gets specifically upset at autofister.
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>>108261657
eh
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>>108261689
Yup you're right, that's definitely selenfag. I guess it's a persona he was trying out but it didn't stick
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>>108261686
they streamed a lot less than last year. also have no way to prove it but get the feeling a bunch of adventrix switched to biboo as their oshi with nerissa never streaming, shiori homo collabing and fuwamoco being kind of stale
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NO ITS POOP DICK SCHIZO!
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Sex with coffee elf
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>>108261762
Biboo's CCV average is no different from her 2024 one.
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>>108261720
Uh oh tranny melty
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>>108261714
And still BloodRaven lost the undone poll to KiaRissa and Shioraven by 36.8-36.7-26,7
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>>108261754
Nigger, read the posts. It's selenfag using his same terminology
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jimmy looks sexy in this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1Mw90AaQpI
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>>108261579
This is the timestamp faggot from /grun/
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>>108261735
its mostly the relays fucking it up, a lot of views for short stream lengths, lots of them
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>>108261759
Oh he's here, why am I not surprised
>>108261776
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>>108261787
>tranny
>seething at yuri
retard
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>>108261627
Hey today's collab gave bloodraven sisters enough food for the next couple of months
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>>108261838
thats a hag
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>>108261811
If that's true it just means selenfag camps grun. That would also explain why it's so schizo in there
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>>108261579
isn’t this the same fag that was saying mori was a good doggie
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>>108261627
>without fuel
How is it without fuel when Nerissa is constantly feeding it
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>>108261842
Today's collab was more Mofufu than BloodRaven and still twitter trannies made it all about BloodRaven
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>>108261877
Yup, it's also the same fag they kept making blud posts in /baubau/
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>>108261627
bloodraven from what if seen is just delusion neither erb or rissa acts how they get portrayed
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>>108261811
No no, the timestamp faggot is not Selenfag, he actually comments on YouTube and everything.

He's just some assblasted faggot that's trying to fight against Gigi for Ceci's love or something
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>>108261877
Wait, What? When did that happen? Please tell me you are joking
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>>108261877
Please stop realizing that every dogshit post is from one of maybe three people in a discord
It's bad for the ppm
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>>108261889
bloodraven is small but really loud
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At the end of the day a whale can't just buy 100 sits for a concert that's why the homos don't get anything, Bae Fans already showed that this doesn't work
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>LLM is supposed increase productivity
Can't even properly convert images to numbers and take the sum, RAH! Had to Excel convert then fill in the missing amounts and make sure amounts were converted properly.
>What is?
Took the sum of "Supas" for the April 2025-September 2025 charts. Used average USD to yen to convert back to yen for each month separately. This gets us total SC per quarter. Then I compared the amount to numbers reported by Cover Corp on its Financial statements.
>Comparison
- SC revenue to livestreaming revenue
- Talent's SC cut to performers remuneration
- SC revenue to total revenue
>Notes
I'll post the actual numbers right after.
SC is about 10-12% of LIVESTREAMING revenue. Rest of livestreaming revenue is from memberships, SCs sent during members' stream, unrecorded SCs by hololyzer, YT premium, YT ads, other platforms, etc.
For talents, on average, only about 5-7% of their remuneration is from SCs now. Of course, the proportion of remuneration from SCs varies for each vtuber, but notice how it's 5-7% SCs from remuneration and 10-12% of livestreaming revenue is from SCs? This means that non-streaming revenue makes up a good chunk of each Cover vtubers' remuneration now.
Lastly, SCs are about 2-3% of total revenue.
>Disclaimer
There might be a "timing difference" depending on accounting methods and when Google transfers each months' revenue..
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>>108261837
No need to sign your post anon we already know.
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>>108261686
You would think fwmc homocollabed with that huge of a superchats drop.
Only $165k in total 2025, with $285k missing from last year. That decrease amount itself is more massive than their 2025 total superchat earnings
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>>108261729
Too easy for the elite, nye
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>>108261483
just like my post above yours she is just simply doesn't like popular ships and its fine, and this is like the second time she did that, also people tried to dig everything to see if anyone shitting on here and can't find anything
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>>108261904
Because they can't banter together... Nerissa can banter with everybody (Bae unproven) but not with ERB
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>>108261686
>that is a -63% decrease in earnings from last year
>Thats -$285k decrease. Wtf happened. Where did half of their paypigs go
25% less streams and lower stream durations, greater push and focus on merch compared to past years. They easily made up the ~100k in superchats from a single merch run, multiple times over.
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>>108261945
Data used to generate graphs
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>>108261930
Imagine if the 2 or 3 resident schizo, like selenfag, just died one day. This board would look completely different
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>>108261979
i have good reason to doubt theyre not all selenfag
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>>108261885
>>108261904
HoloEN ships work under the crumb system, something happens on stream and that is used to build narratives around it.

Bloodraven just theorizes about them like they're dolls. Omg what IF, it would be great IF, IF IF IF. And this technically makes the ship stronger because it doesn't depend on real life but on whatever the fuck you want them to be. It's a ship so plastic you could replace Nerissa and ERB with any anime character and it would work the exact same.
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>>108261945
cool
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>>108262008
Selenfag's so psychotic that I wouldn't doubt it's all him. Hell, I would like to see his pc for a week because I bet he schizos even harder than we even realize
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>>108261971
>They easily made up the ~100k in superchats from a single merch run, multiple times over.
They made at least $285k more in merch, compared to last year?
Seems unconvincing. What makes you think that?
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>>108261951
trannies literally love yuri you brainless retard
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>>108262068
Oh yeah, then explain grems.
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>>108261933
Bloodravenfags are starting to harass Autofister sisters and that can only go wrong because sisters outnumber beggars by like 5 to 1.
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>>108261945
>>108261976
>This means that non-streaming
I understand what you mean (by using the same nomenclature the companies use in their reports) but the "commerce" revenue from merchandise sales also comes from what is colloquially considered as "streaming revenue" given that most of it comes from direct sales to their live-streaming fanbases, as opposed for instance of revenue from partnerships like the Coca Cola one whose revenue comes from the companies.
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>>108262068
nta but not the ones from sea
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>>108262082
most autofister grems are literal trannies
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>>108261916
around kanats graduation just search it was really weird
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>>108262040
Pretty sure Nerissa just sang a whole song where she inserted ERBs name into the whole thing in her karaoke for the relay
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>>108261976
>Livestreaming Revenue From SCs
This is incorrect. Multiply by 0.7 to remove Google's cut.
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>>108262068
IIRC don’t they like it as long as they can self insert as one of the girls? Like Chris-chan’s trans-lesbian phase.
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>>108262068
Holy retard. Men have loved yuri since long before trannies even existed you dumbfuck zoomer. Just because your single digit IQ requires a self insert, that doesn't mean we're all that braindead. Kys tranny
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Qrd?
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>>108262113
That's only the grems on Twitter, discord, and YT. I wouldn't count them anyway
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>>108262125
Jesus Christ no.
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>>108262155
Yes, she did. Not sure why retards say it has no fuel when Nerissa fuels it tons.
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>>108262125
That's the point. You can literally insert any generic movie protagonist and nothing would change
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>>108262119
Oh shit...wtf?
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>>108262143
holo girls love niji boys
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>>108262059
Are you an actual newfag or just pretending to be retarded? That also wasn't my argument but I wouldn't be surprised if they did, they had far more merch runs in 2025 than 2024.
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>>108262142
typical yuritard melty
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>>108262143
Enjoying her ability to have guest appearences at male shows
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>>108262143
Qrd? Henma needs to be fucking killed
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>>108262190
they sure do
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>>108262197
Your father and his father before him got hard at 2 hot girls kissing unless he was a closet faggot. It's only your generation with your tranny baggage that think differently.
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>>108261616
>She prefers ships that exist
she spammed brattea before the coffee tea collab
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>>108261720
>>108262197
Go sit in the cuck chair rintardo
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRyS9d3RMpg

it's starting she's sharing all the secrets
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>>108262143
>constantly trying to prop up homos at her own expense
niji would welcome her with open arms
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nijibox -100k kek



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