like what, schizo

why the fuck are you obsessed with this bitch not streaming
she's been doing this for 4 years

>>108316035
*learning

>>108315984
clownfish wearing sameko saba is peak saba.
her karaoke stream was absolute cinema
10/10 would watch again (and i have)

>>108316747
She is the undisputed EN queen, it's why they seethe

>>108317122
as gura of course

>>108315984
work smart not hard; why stream every week when your financial situation only requires a few streams per year

>>108315984
She already told you everything that she's willing to tell you, multiple times - she has health issues. Attempting to go any further than that is doxxing.
It sucks, because she's a very good chuuba, but you gotta let it go, OP.

>>108315984
because nothing kills motivation faster than shilling merch, making a million then having to go back to jobbing for scraps when she could be out there living her life instead

>>108316061
listen to "sol seppy enter one"
and understand, everything regarding the current paradigm is an op.
every public figure is an op, every narrative is an op.
you are prey, they (false light) are predators.

when they say "learning", they mean, studying how to manipulate you and how to get into the depths of your mind to control you.

you too must learn, learn your lesson

>>108317481
i ain't eating the apple bro

>>108315984
>all baiting, hating, seething, coping and shitposting aside
Current youtube meta is to post less to get more money

>>108315984
Would you not do this, if you were her?

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>>108315984
People like you posting about it are the reason she gets in her head about streaming.

>>108317860
why would she browse this place?

>>108317907
those post these threads, idiot

>>108315984
she just doesn't like being beholden to anyone or anything but herself. Just wants to dip and come back whenever anytime for any reason or literally no reason at all with no attachments. she wants to be like a nobody 2view but shes not that and never will be again

>Senzawa
Lazy and won't stream
>Gura
Lazy and won't stream
>Saba
Lazy and won't stream
Why don't you expect her to change?

>>108317956
I recently watched a short doc on a performance art routine called "Rhythm 0" (which also mentioned a similar routine done by Yoko Ono called "Cut Piece" ten years prior). In it, the performer stands next to a table with various items laid on it and tells the audience to do whatever they want to them.
Some of the items are harmless (like a scarf). Others are not (like knives or a gun with one bullet).
When Marina Abramović performed it in 1974, it started off mostly low key (with people doing silly things like laying the scarf on her head), progressed to people doing more fucked up shit like using the knives to cut her, and ended with someone loading the gun, placing it in her hand and posing it so that she was aiming it at herself.
I like to think that if I was in the audience, my next stop would have been jail because I would have loaded the gun and told everyone that the show was over. I doubt that would have been how I acted at the time, but if I saw it being performed today then I hope I'd have the guts to do that.
A chuuba who hypothetically posts here isn't taking a fraction of the risk that Yoko or Marie did, but they are voluntarily walking into a psychologically dangerous situation. The few rules that /vt/ has are almost never enforced. People can and do post all sorts of vile and horrible shit.
I take advantage of my anonymity by posting my genuine horny thoughts (usually feet and BDSM related) because if there's any place that's an acceptable release valve for those thoughts other than a private journal, it's here. But I still have the responsibility to not be a *complete* monster. Just because you can be one according to the rules doesn't mean that you should be one.
So I don't post anything that I think would genuinely hurt these people (unless they're actual fascists doing fascist shit). I might be critical and snobby about their work from time to time, but I don't actually want to do harm to the vast, vast, vast majority of them. They're just people.
Even if they are here by choice, and even if they are astroturfing themselves, I think the most discomfort they deserve to feel is having to read how much I would like to put their bare feet in stocks and drip hot wax between their toes (consensually, of course). I don't think they deserve to be called whores (unless it's affectionate and they're into that) or liars or grifters or [insert slur here] or told to kill themselves or whatever.
Even if whatever you're posting isn't against the rules, you're still responsible for it.

>>108317222
Is she stupid? Why did she leave the biggest vtubing company while being the biggest name in it, and go back to being some indie pleb wage cucking on youtube? She could have retired as a millionaire before turning 40 if she stayed in Hololive.

>>108319209
I'm guessing that it's because she found working for them to be intolerable in one way or another. Might have been Cover beng unreasonable, might have just been an incompatible situation for Gura. My money is on the former, but I don't actually know.

Who cares? It shouldn't bother you unless you are a fan or were a fan.

>>108319209
Cover were tired of her and the other lazy whores' asses. That's why they gave them a "choice" to retire; they didn't want to keep paying money for part-time worker diva bullshit.

>>108319209
Her fans pay her a lot to not stream, and now there's no Japanese company in her ear taking all the merch money and telling her to do her homework.

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>>108315984
how's this guy doing

>>108319932
there were dozens of clowns like this, most of them phase fans

>>108319932
white company

>>108319209
Not everyone wants to travel to Japan every 3 months or so and not everyone wants to move to Japan either.
It's honestly kind of incredible (in a stupid way) that Cover didn't open a studio in America after EN's astronomical success.

>>108317197
What kind of health issues stop you from doing your job for 4 years straight? More to the point, she's well aware of these health issues, what was the point in coming back as an indie only never to stream on it because of them?

>>108315984
the best ad was the schizo all along

>>108315984
>all baiting, hating, seething, coping and shitposting aside
>Saba thread
Obvious nigger.

>>108320351
>Not everyone wants to travel to Japan every 3 months or so and not everyone wants to move to Japan either.
maybe if your a random whore that just see vtuber as a new trend that make male throw money at your face like this random famous twitch ethot who used an avatar for 1 stream

>>108320351
If the studio cost 20gorillion to build in glorious nippon then it would've cost 100+ in burgertown and would've had to have been rebuilt several times because cardboard construction materials and south american labor. And they'd have put it in cali whose malign influence would've corrupted holo more than it already has been. To afford that shit cover would've had to have taken the blackrock money for real and the conditions for the pleasure of sucking larryfink's cut cock and getting that juicy cash loan is accepting unreservedly dei esg shit. There would've been nog holos and troons in the dressing room with the girls.
Horrible idea.

>>108321023
Most of that is pure retardation, south american labor would make it cheaper and commercial construction in the US is steel frame/masonry. The thing that would make it expensive is the fact that it would be in California

>>108321255
>south american labor would make it cheaper
have you told the construction industry that?

>>108321345
It makes it cheaper for them. They can make housing expensive by never building anything ever

>>108319209
There's more to life than pretending you're 10 years old just to satisify retards and pedos worldwide, even if you make more money than your average OF bitch thot
>just a little bit more to life but you're too fucking stupid to see this

Watch this, OP: https://youtu.be/uxF4azG8Nds?t=10227

>>108315984
She thought she still wanted to stream when she got out from under the corpo boot
It turns out she thought wrong

She made comments require 1 week sub or membership + manual approval.
The number of comments keeps going down so she's combing through them still curious about what people know.

>>108321980
The best that you can is ghosting and constantly make people feel sad and disappointed...okeh

Because people keep giving her money

>>108322075
On just 1 video

>>108315984
She's rich. Why would she bother?

>>108322279
Rich people have hobbies and passions too.
We all know which is not one of hers.

>>108315984
because she's fucking ILL
SHE'S CHRONICALLY ILL
MULTIPLE TIMES YOU GUYS ASK THIS
THAT'S QUITE LITERALLY WHY
plus she might have that depression/anxiety that makes it hard to reply to messages, now apply that to informing your worldwide fanbase

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>>108323356
oh nyo

I just think it's funny that these bait threads were being spammed even back when she was still streaming.

>>108323565
It's like they have a quota to fill or something.

>>108318863
>muh fascism
go back

i wish i could see what she does all day
is it just constant doomscrolling

>>108323356
>99% of vtubers at least briefly decribe what their illnesses are if they affect their streaming.
>Nobody in this world has ever been doxxed for talking about their medical problems.
>Couldve shared how long the hiatus would last, but proceeded to suck all the cash out of her fans by making them wait forever

>>108324189
i wonder if she never tells us about anything she does because it's all a secret like everything else we "know" about her or she truly does not do anything

>>108324389
She is the 1% in more than one way. Other vtubers constantly talk about their lives and themselves while she keeps her personas separate.

>>108324462
That's because you faggots scared her off

>>108324094
suck my ass

>>108315984
if cuckbuds had standards and stopped raining her with superchats she would've fixed her behavior by now.

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I CAN'T FUCKING STREAAAAAAAAAAAAM

>>108315984
Because her fans will throw money at her even when she's like this. If the money stop, she will start working.

>>108315984
quality > quantity

>>108317197
Those health issues, giving birth to my kids and taking care of them.

>>108326560
TRUTH NUKE

>>108326560
100 x 0 is still 0

>>108327151
take your stinking math to the numbers thread

>>108320416
The same health issue Ironmouse has

>>108315984
Imagine taking months long breaks from work and getting the paycheck she must get.
Imagine going to work less than 40 times a year (your work is sitting in front of your computer playing videogames for 2-4 hours)
They get money for doing nothing and no matter who you are they initial drive to provide content will melt away once you see you don't really have to do anything.

>>108317122
Queen of grifting
>>108317197
>>108323356
>we already know she's blatantly lying about her health issues excuse thanks to Elon b-but you can't say that!
Insane cope
>>108326560
And she's low quality

>>108323166
Clearly she has no passion.

>>108327560
yeah why bother showing up to work when you get paid for not going to it lol

>>108320351
Given the way the EN scene has gone in the last couple of years that looks like a smart decision on their part.

The most important part of Ash Again is probably this:
> Theysay the memory of me is fading
> I've heard it all before
> Don't tell me everyone around is waiting
In other words, mental pressure, "you have to stream or your numbers will go down, people are gonna forget, you have to stream, go stream, they're all waiting for what you do, they all look at what you do, you must stream, do it, do it NOW"
Of course, none of that is real or makes sense. It's a mental block, those never do. But it explains the reaction, i.e. complete mental shutdown and withdrawal, hiding from the problem until it goes away.

>>108315984
>>108316035

At this point the better question is, what caused her to stream consistently between the years 2020 and 2022? Was it really just the lockdown?

>>108315984
gridlocked between "not in the mood to stream" and "doesn't want to admit that she's not in the mood to stream" = avoiding the problem until external pressure forces her to take action

>>108330319
relatable

>>108330319
The action? A half assed chatGPT tweet and locking down youtube comments

>>108331926
I think she deserves to not be brazenly disrespected on her own platform for wanting a private life.

>>108330036
>At this point the better question is, what caused her to stream consistently between the years 2020 and 2022? Was it really just the lockdown?
The success. Depressed people are always looking for an escape from their shitty lives, and for a time she believed Hololive could be that escape. Every time there is a major change in her streaming life (new Hololive gen, indie debut) her streaming activity picks up as she gets her hopes up, only for it to fail again as she realizes nothing has actually changed.

As an indie it's probably doubly harsh compared to hololive because there is nothing new on the horizon, no Holofes, no change coming from without. Going indie was probably the last big hope for her streaming-wise and now that even that couldn't make her happy she has no idea what to do.

>>108332389
Sounds like genuine depression. Which is, you know, an actual medical issue that can be life-threatening.

>>108332244
True. Perhaps people think by harassing her they can get her to open up or cause a change in her, but she's made it clear that's not going to happen, if anything she'll use it as ammo to punish us.

>>108332441
Even if you don't consider it a legit disease, it's true that she can't exactly stream while depressed. People don't know how bad depression episodes can get, you basically turn into a zombie who can hardly move.

>>108332617
And they will punish her in turn. Locking the comments shows that they are getting to her so they will continue until something happens.

This is also a monster of her own creation; as an indie she has free reign to set a schedule and communicate it but she chooses not to, this fanbase is also something she cultivated by never saying a single thing no matter what shit they pulled even back in Hololive. She has created her own dungeon so now she can live in it.

Because she can't blame management for her lack of productivity any more.
But seriously it's probably her usual bouquet of physical and mental illnesses acting up, not that this should be any excuse.
I'm probably gonna unsub after this month if she doesn't at least show some signs of life. As much as I adore her, there's no point in paying $5 a month just to theoretically have a trident next to your name and bankroll this pointless charade.

either she working on her mental health, or trying to learn to take control again, or she just wanted to quit streaming or changing approach in her streaming brand which might change a lot of things that most wont like. i wont lie i think the way she's just sometimes bringing up her personal stuff she can at least tell us what's going on, she's a bit half assed between trying to be an enternainer and "personal" to us. to which result most of us become confused on what to expect from her and kinda demand an answers for whats going on because another part of her side that exposes bit of her personal stuff influnces it. if she can fully commit to one thing either being an entertaner i guess like nimi approach, or just herself at least that would making it easy for us and herself in respecting her choices, learn what to expect from her, and for her to make her own decision in her streaming and seperating personal stuff. but if she doesnt want to lose something but she also want more connection i dont think its possible unless she's taking the entertain on her main and membership to talk a bit personal where at least she can express her feelings of what's going on. it still a silly assumption and i dont even know what im talking about or knew what's really going on with her. though i wont lie she's weird like that sometimes, hiding shit and all, she need to have someone to talk with or even her streaming stuff or maybe she lost that already, maybe used to be the myth girls, maybe cuz she's gotten too popular her friends assumed that she knows everything leaving her in dealing everything alone. i dont fucking know man fuyck this shit. and its not our job to decides for her.

Wall of text that side skips Occam's razor of grifting. Do little still get pay day. Already knows she can do a stream everyone one or two months with her fan base. Just needs to overlap any possible EN threats and Hololive events.

>>108321465
>There's more to life than pretending you're 10 years old just to satisify retards and pedos worldwide
If thats the case why did she redebut with a loli model after leaving?
>>108324389
>Nobody in this world has ever been doxxed for talking about their medical problems.
Yuy got doxed for talking about her cancer treatment.

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>>108315984
>Does nothing
>Wins

>>108316035
>doxxniggers will have now spent 5 years crying about le no stream
Really are a bunch of low T battered wives LOL

>>108319209
You're brown lmao

>>108323565
For a half a decade and counting
Their surrogate father Andrew Tate told them to get the fuck outside and max out.

It's just hilarious when some deluded cucks keep repeating the "quality over quantity" mantra without even realizing what that's actually supposed to mean
Your oshi does the absolute minimum to keep the monetization on, ghosts you for no reason, lies to you, gives you false promises, then ghosts you again for reasons that she solely brought upon herself
And you say that's peak quality, because she pulls decent numbers - which is in fact the perfect antithesis of "quality over quantity"
>erm you just described every women ever. They're all lazy and deceiving and-
No. You simply surrounded yourself with those kind of people, because you're a cuck who loves to enable shitty behaviours. You get what you deserve. No quality nor quantity for you.

ook ook

>>108333923
Trvke nvke

>>108336823
i'll take a worse /vt/ over anyone listening to andrew tate

>>108336839
Holy based

>>108336839
You've been writing this post verbatim for 5 years in a row now
That's more sad that le Saba no stream

>>108336934
kek every time I do find a VTuber anti they always are into fucked up politics and/or cuckold porn
Which is why Saba threads are all just a comedy to me

>>108336839
Not membered to her, so I have no skin in the game.
She actually does appear to enjoy streaming when she does it, so I really am inclined to believe her about having crippling medical issues.
I don't think it's healthy to devote this much time and attention to her when she doesn't reciprocate, though, illness or no illness. Her fans really should just move the fuck on. If she comes back and you still have time to watch her, great, but she'll do it when she feels like doing it and nothing you say to her or about her is going to make her decide to come back sooner.

>>108336942
You're going into a thread to defend a lazy whore that doesn't care about you
Way more pathetic

>>108315984
She likes halloween games and doesn't care about thanksgiving or christmas plus she already has your money.

>>108337088
Not an argument

>>108335981
You found a money train
why would you stop the brakes?
because society told you to?

>>108318863
interesting post

>>108337276
Her fans can stop it any time they like. Cancel membership, watch somebody else.

>>108337326
Oh no Aryancunnyrapist1488 cancelled his membership, how will Saba ever recover??? Not the heckin ARS

>>108337369
I don't think that Aryancunnyrapist1488 should have an internet connection,
period

>>108337326
this is the equivalent of "free money" on a practical jokers skit.
i'm not the one giving money, idgaf
Her fans CAN but they won't or can't. How are (You) going to stop them because (You) don't like the situation?

>>108321980
she sounds insane

>>108337555
I'm not. I'm just pointing out that the problem has a reasonable and justifiable solution. Give the $5 a month to someone who streams regularly and give them your attention instead.
Saba's not your mom, your sister or your girlfriend. She owes you nothing, you owe her nothing. If she gives you nothing, for whatever reason, you're well within your rights to respond in kind.
I don't think anyone's within their rights to doxx or harass her.

>>108319209
>>108319413
Turns out the "Big Bad Corpo" never was the problem to begin with.

>>108337555
Sweatie, all her fans are subscribed to multiple vtubers. There are plenty of fish in the ocean. If she stops being a pedobait, someone else will fill that niche. All these fetish vtubers are completely replaceable.

>>108328647
I want everybody to forget about her so these threads stop

>>108315984
Better yet: why do people still watch her? She is not that entertaining

>>108337080
>so I really am inclined to believe her about having crippling medical issues.
Because you're ignoring the Elon Musk damage control she's doing. You're a gullible retard like all chumbuds.

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>>108341381
Shachi is autistic

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>>108317537
anon, you ate the apple before you were born.
you got all the curse with none of the knowledge.

the key isn't to not eat something (you're already under the debt), the key is to eat of the tree of life too.
any time you say, "this is bad/evil, this is good", you are proving you already ate.

remember, in the garden there were many trees, but there was one tree mankind was kept from eating, that is, the tree of life.

i'm here to bring you the fruit of the tree of life, while exposing the false lights trying to bind you to the death, with the knowledge of the tree of knowledge of good and evil.

do you understand anon?
now, if you dictating that something is good or evil, is evidence that you've already eaten (or are manifesting) from the tree of knowledge (of good and evil), then, what is the evidence that you've consumed from the tree of life?

bro

>>108342824
aint reading all that either, flexing my solar anus at you

>>108321980
>woman babble talk

how do people listen to this without wanting to rope

>>108343146
Are you lost tranny? You're on a board dedicated for that.
>brings up a rope
Kek fitting

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>>108342923
so you've chosen the path of death.
guess we can still accommodate you

>>108343274
notice, its almost always trannies that bring up suicide.
why dont they ever bring life?
why dont they say, "i hope you live a long miserable life", why is it only ever, "rope this", "Kiss my self, that" and so on.

why do they allways, every single time, mention suicide, for you and themselves?

then they have the gall to say retarded shit like, "trannies only kill themselves because they aren't accepted by the people closest to them"
i'm just like, "bitch, YOU ARE PROMOTING SUICIDE YOURSELF ON YOURSELF AND OTHERS"

no wonder they are the most suicidal of all the lgbt spaghet

>>108343279
>chosen the path of death.
why does the road appear forked to you anon thats oddly manichean of you

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>>108343406
there is either life, or death.
there's no middle ground.
if you reject the tree of life, you've opted for death by default.

>but i didn't
the end result of the tree of knowledge of Good and Evil is death, no exceptions, the tree is inherently embedded into your being.
thats why you are being offered to eat of the tree of life, so that you are ready for when the tree of knowledge of Good and Evil blossoms and bears fruit, otherwise you wont survive the overload of guilt.

you see?
i'm not trying to feed you from the tree of knowledge, you already have that, i'm trying to give you direct access to the tree of life and spare you the wrath from the judgment that is to come.
because, when the tree bears fruit, "the judgment starts in the house of the Lord", that is to say, within you, outwardly, to those around you
though, i'm sure you already know where to access the tree of life, thats not the same as partaking of it, and when judgment comes, if you haven't taken part of its fruit, it will be damnation.

but i can't force you, so you know where to look if you change your mind, before the day comes (and it will come)

>>108343606
no either/or, neither middle nor outside, no choice no necessity, no life nor death, goodbye to all that, flimsy stage dressing. All noises, a choir of pain and pleasure. All cum, pouring out of my pores, disseminating upon these barren everythingness each atom of which my pores take in, each cell copulating with raising horns and tusks against heaven and the depths. Guilt do I feel, overload me, I am innocent, nascent, in ascend. The day has come.

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>>108343798
there's no middle ground.
what you think is the middle ground is the place of judgment, the killing ground, the edge of the blade.

to stand in the middle is to stand in the presence of God to be judged.
who can stand in his presence?

>>108315984
Because she is lazy.

>>108315984
she's got a belly parasite she needs to treat.

>>108343880
no middle, only never ceasing voluptuousness, I hurt God as He hurt me, we kneel in gravitas, in gratitude, under gravity, ingrate

>>108315984
now I just remember that rrat
about how leaving hololive will make her alcoholic again
huh how about that as she always too drunk to stream+liver problem
rate the rrat bro

>>108343913
She's not lazy. She's sick.

>>108343994
I have presented my answer to the question and i don't intend to change it. thank you.

>>108343994
...of streaming! Not of the passive money that comes with it of course.

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>>108344190
Shachi has autism

>>108343976
i kneel because i love God.

the son obeys out of love
the slave obeys out of the gravity and grace given to them

what does the word say?
abraham had two sons, one of the bondwoman and one of the freewoman.
the one of the bondwoman was born in bondage, while the son of the free woman, born of faith, is the heir?

you were born as a slave, so you're grateful when the master gives you the grace let you live in the house, but the servant does not live in the house forever, only the son does.
i was born a son, i live in the house of my father, and will inherit the whole estate, but that's not why i love my father, i love my father because of the love hes showed me and his instruction he's given me out of his love. so as my father does, i do to.

so i offer you life, to be a son of God too.
1 John 3:1
>Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.

>>108344292
I aint playing daddy mommy

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>>108344369
given the opportunity, i offered life
it was rejected, my hands are clean on this matter.

>>108344415
life pours out of me in goo goo gaga

Stop giving women money and they will have to start doing something

>>108344430
>life pours out of me

>John 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.
>1 John 2:22-23
>22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
>23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.

and for your sake
>John 1:11-13
>11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.
>12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
>13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
the left is up to you (and any other fellow schizos reading this)

>>108344474
They don't take facts very likely around here bud.

>>108344799
goo goo gaga now wipe my ass papa

>>108344474
The problem with this post and others like it is that they're naive and idealistic in the same way libertarians are.

>>108343953
Being injected with sperm while getting money for doing nothing is not a parasite. Oh wait, maybe you mean she's the parasite.

>>108344474
Why do you feel the need to be sexist? Men are just as fuckin lazy as women.

>>108344876
Men don't get paid for existing lol

>>108344876
>average male streamer
>streams 12 hours a day
>misses an hour
>damn I'm gonna stream 13 hours the next day
>average female streamer
>uhhh... tummy hort

>>108344876
>stating facts is sexist.
Yeah sure, okay.

>>108344902
Exactly

>>108344902
Donald Trump

>>108317956
>those post these threads, idiot
You might wanna learn a bit better about how to navigate English before you go and call someone else an idiot, ESL-kun.

The memory of her is fading.

>>108332831
depression isnt a real disease. all mental is made up in your head nonsense. the weak should perish.

>>108345101
it's 5 kilobytes per second, the speed at which online influencers fall off

Everyone around is waiting...

>>108345106
As someone who's suffered from severe depression since I was a kid, it maybe mental but it effects you physically too. There's many ways of dealing with it, I drink. But I get on with it. To call somone weak because they are depressed is a terrible take. Also I don't care for Saba, she's only good for a fap.

>>108345101
>>108345156
I'm sure she's heard it all before.

>>108345229
>>108345156
>>108345101
if this is the end, she'll do it again

>>108345063
Their post was easy enough to parse. "Those" is obviously referring to the hypothetical group of chuubas that posts on /vt/.

>>108315984
>as Senzawa, interest in content creation begins wanes, believe it's due to working solo
>as Gura, interest in streaming wanes, believe it's due to management
>as Saba, interest in streaming wanes, realize that you never liked it in the first place
This happens more than you'd think, total retirement soon.

>>108345443
If by soon you mean 3 years ago

She's at that age where you begin to think about life and its meaning and the future.

>>108345443
To be fair, just because Gura ended up being the same on her indie incarnation, doesn't mean that working under Hololive and having to deal with retarded management and perms doesn't suck if you're actually trying to have fun with streaming.

>>108345530
>perms

To be fair you don't need perms if you don't stream, retard.

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>>108345530
>ended up indie
same co, same saba.
as if she never left

>>108337276
>You found a money train
>why would you stop the brakes?
>because society told you to?
Saba would have made just as much money if she redebuted without a loli model. She was that popular.

>>108341473
i will pee on you boi

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>>108315984
She couldn't beat the rock girl despite her elemental advantage.

>>108315984
She's busy fucking black guys

>>108320416
Long covid
I know you faggots are afraid to admit that you can basically be ruined physically and mentally by a virus, but that's the reality we live in.
Wear your masks.

>>108347447
Hello fellow masker anon.

How many times will she stream this entire year? Over/under 24?

>>108347447
Isn't that just HIV/AIDS?

>>108349195
Its actually vaccine injury but people aren't ready for that conversation

>>108321980
Comparing herself to Biboo is destroying her from the inside

>>108320351
gura spends half the year in europe, there would be no benefit to a multi-million dollar studio in NA

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>>108350098
X update
this will get deleted even though it's literally a screenshot of her 600k followers public account

>>108317197
>>108347447
I have the same health issues that Saba has, GERD, reactivated childhood asthma due to Long Covid, I had a heart attack about 3 years ago.

I am still able to do a physically active wage slave job for about 20 hours a week while also getting disability.
Saba has no excuse, she isn't somehow worse than me, the federal government literally defines me as disabled.

You have to accept the reality that Saba just doesn't want to work, and has other streams of revenue to rely on.

>>108350150
>>108350235
ah the rest of the story writes itself

>>108350160
>>108350160
She never promised nor owed you anything. All you can do is bringing up her membership money which is a pocket change amount compared to what she will have to pay for her rigging, models, music (composed by Casey), and 3D stuff.
You have no arguments, which is why you continue to be an ignorant wagecuck. You blame the world rather than yourself.

Holowhores doing shill streams and telling you to buy their merch = you are entitled to their work because else they would be grifting whores.
Saba = she can have other responsibilities, but it's none of your business

Know the difference wakecuck

>>108350423
Gura never visiting Kiara despite being in Europe for 6 months out of the year, every year, does imply that Gura's work relationships were less important than Sweden.

>>108350445
>which is why you continue to be an ignorant wagecuck
I can survive off my disability but I make an active choice to make additional money, you should probably delete your post its particularly embarrassing for you and reflects poorly on the fanbase.

>>108350160
Would you do still show up at your job if you had the choice not to?

>>108347447
If Ironmouse can do it why can't she?
>>108350558
Not that anon, but if the job was playing video games for a few hours a week I would.

>>108350558
Like I posted here >>108350535, I don't "need" to work, but the additional money from the job is extra spending money that I can put into my hobbies.

I go to a whole gay ass disabled therapy group about coping with life now, and most of the group actively continues to work, sometimes for additional money, but a lot of them just want to still be a part of society and work provides an excuse for it.

Saba is making an active choice not to stream, and anyone saying it's because of her health issues is just incorrect, it can definitely impede it, I can't work a 40 hour work week like I used to, but it doesn't stop me from working completely.
If Saba cared about making content, she would figure out a way to make it that fits in to her schedule, she even talked about doing Let's Play's before for exactly this reason.
The reason why she doesn't do Let's Play's, is because she doesn't want to spend time editing a video.
This isn't a disability thing, this is a not caring about your channel thing.

>>108350902
it shouldn't even need to be said.
there's no illness in the world that can prevent you from streaming videogames or tweeting for months.
she can keep saying she likes spending time with us and streaming is fun for her but it's clear she doesn't or she would find ways to do it against all odds. actions speak louder than words

>>108350540
My family has made the drive from New England to Florida 4 times in my life, it's pretty common.
Kiara was consistently willing to travel everywhere around Europe for Justice, Gura did not schedule a meetup for a reason.

>>108350989
How do you know they haven't? They got suspiciously close and are still talking. Casually mentioning meeting up with Gura is not something Kiara could freely talk about outside of Japan/US travels without raising eyebrows.

>>108350902
Nobody would care if you threatened to kill yourself, wagecuck. Why? Because it is your life, you owe the society nothing. Again you have no arguments but jealousy.

>>108320351
>after EN's astronomical success
Never make profit in their first years, btw.

>>108351058
Invoking Ineffabilis Deus is a bad argument, no evidence of an event taking place doesn't not equate to it certainly happening, it's wishful thinking on your part and it makes you appear unreasonable.
Gura has been spending time in Sweden for years before she left Hololive.
Neither Gura nor Kiara mentioned that they ever met up before in Europe, and there is no good argument for why this would not be brought up on stream.

>>108349195
It attack immune system cells in a way that's similar to HIV/AIDS.
Fun Fact: if someone kramers into the thread and says that you're being homophobic/offensive for pointing this out, you're dealing with a disingenuous shitlib who's still butthurt about the quarantine slowing down their petty bourgeois ambitions.

>>108349576
>Its actually vaccine injury but people aren't ready for that conversation
because it's a stupid conversation and you're stupid for comparing the two

>>108317860
You'd think she would have learned by now to either not look or not let it get to her

bitch realised she could make as much money not showing up to work than showing up to work

>>108357740
Imagine the computer, the life, the travelling she can do with all that money. Like any over rated streamer, rake in the cash because people are retards.

>>108315984
>all baiting, hating, seething, coping and shitposting aside
If you exclude all the reasons to post about her, what am I supposed to say in your thread?

>>108358355
You say OP is a faggot

>>108358468
i think that goes without saying

>>108353901
i actually started nocam streaming after seeing all these women do vtubing and going "wait why can't i stream too" and i wonder if saba is paranoid of audio evidence of her boyfriend leaking like how i'm kinda paranoid of my parents saying my real name on stream

>>108362789
you're a huge tard because she talks about how many days she goes without talking to anyone, this is only possible if she lives alone

>>108362886
keep the faith cunnyki

>>108362989
faith implies lack of evidence

>>108320351
A studio in America for who? Shiori? Almost no one who gives a shit about studio work lives there, if anyone. Would unironically be better to build it in Canada or Europe.

>>108364247
Gigi Murin

>>108364422
She does put in the effort but a studio just for her would be retarded. holoEN as a whole would benefit more from a second studio in Japan than one in America.

>>108350150
Oh shit

>>108364594
it also came out 2 days after it was proven she has lived there since before 2022 possibly explaining her sudden shift in streaming activity

>>108364854
>2 days after it was proven she has lived there since before 2022 possibly explaining her sudden shift in streaming activity
QRD? the 50hz stuff?

>>108364905
correct

>>108364247
Canada is part of America.

>>108357740
She'd be making 100x more thoughbeit

>>108345530
sucks but newer hires seem to be enjoying themselves much more since unlike Gura they knew what they were signing up for

>>108330036
Is it really that hard to accept that maybe it was just the lockdown? By the sounds of what everyone is bitching or yapping about, her life seems to be pretty different since covid, or even 2 years ago