Stop doing this.>Membership Prices>>4.99€Start doing this.>Membership Prices>>1.99€>>4.99€>>9.99€Let us choose how much money we want to contribute. I have multiple creators that I'd like to support, but they'd add up to a 30€/month bill, which doesn't work out for my broke ass.
If you're broke you shouldn't be watching vtubers.
>>108346058fpbp
>>1083460421.995.99+additional pay pig tiersThat way gifted memberships are more easily gained and tier 2 members streams are not necessarily invaded by poorfags.
>>108346058Know your audience.
Imagine paying for members content
>>108346058This. Additionally, if you want to support vtubers, don't give Youtube 35%.
>>108346058if youre not broke you shouldnt be watching vtubers
>>108346058What should we be doing instead? Please enlighten us.
>>108346042I win
>>108346145Member streams should only be $1.99, instead Hololive should incentivise people buying merch or other ways to give them more of a cut.Selling a stupid pin for $7, with a materials cost of $2, could let Hololive rake in 60% and vtuber 40% and both parties would make more than having a $5 membership fee.
>>108346145Without Youtube's cut, how will YouTube make money to keep afloat?
>>108346204Getting richer.
>>108346272Based and true. Or just not be retarded and give vtubers your money. Both work.
>>108346042Or go and choose cheaper ones. Some Holomems have dirt cheap memberships.
>1.99/cheapest possible tier that only grants emotes and catches gifts>5.99 tier for real members only content that can not be gifteddon't need more, simple as.
>>108346042>paying for meme ships>when youtube takes 30% of their income>when you could be buying merch instead which lets you support your oshi, the money goes straight to them (and the company) and gives you an actual physical product
You say this but it would immediately draw ire as them being money grubbers by having cheaper tiers for emotes only. Remember it's not just tiers for the sake of it but you also need to break up the benefits. If you can't afford the yearly price tag then just buy merch from them instead once a year. It makes sure YouTube gets no cut of your money.
>>108346315I don't need any more colorful chinese plastic in my life and shipping is $100.
>>108346315>Doing both because I'm not a poorfag
>>108346367No, you're not a poorfag, you're just stupid for giving money to google.
>>108346042If 30 bucks a month is a strain on your wallet, you aren't in control of your finances.
>>108346315>MerchFuck that, shipping fees to Europe were insane last I checked.Also, I hate merch. I like to keep my room as empty as possible, I fucking hate clutter.
>>108346301The problem with this is people like CC or Shiori, who have the basic membership tier with a few more tiers and yet they do absolute jackshit for them, there's no benefit whatsoever for having a higher tier membership.
>>108346301That's not how it works.Gifts always go to the tier closest to $5
>>108346403Not in this economy where you pay more to get less for every single thing.Youtube subs are on the cheaper side, but it adds up.
>>108346257Not my problem.Maybe they should've thought about it before they kept bleeding money for a decade while strongarming competition out of the market by offering things they cannot feasibly support long term.
>>108346042Ruka only has one membership tier and it's 2 euros.She is so real for that.
>>108346315>he thinks merch ends up being a larger cut for themLOLSasuga holotard.
>>108346042What they should actually do is make a 5 dollar tier for emotes + member wallpapers and then a 6 dollar tier that also gets access to member streamsThat way gifttards are not in the member streams
>>108346583Why is gatekeeping member streams so important to you? They get pirated anyway (unless they're a literal who)
>>108346058>If you're broke you shouldn't be watching vtubers.Humans are not ants and we do need some way to relax but you shouldn't be giving Hololive money if you can't afford to waste it.>>108346213Generic merch gives little to a corpo vtuber and even cheap merch like acrylic stands has shipping and tariffs. $15 for the acrylic stand can easily cost $30 with maybe $1 going to the actual vtuber. 30 to 1 is a lot less than 3 to 1 so membership is the best way to give money to the content creator.
>>108346315Real streamers have offsite dono links so you can access paywalled content, minimize YT earnings, and still substantially support your oshi without buying acrylic stand/keychain #735
>>108346213>instead Hololive should incentivise people buying merch or other ways to give them more of a cut.Do people actually buy like 100x voice packs just to give money to their oshi? Genuinely curious, since it's a weird, but apparently best way to give her money.
>>108346058Pathetic paypig whale.My oshi gets my Amazon prime sub and I never directly donate a dime.
>>108346058I've got money but I'm still watching vtubers, please help
>>108346058>not watching a vtuber a lot for free that you subsist entirely on gifted membershipsngmi
>>108346133imagione paying memeber saba then no stream
>>108347073>Saba out of nowhere
>>108346838I'm not the type to buy anything so I don't know. But on the cost perspective, there's nothing to really pay for as everyone involved is getting a cut. It seems the best way to support and give money.
>>108346257They'll just AI-generate more money.
>>108347073Memember memember the 5th of November.
>>108346042You sound poor.
>>108346042>€Yuropoors not beating the allegations
>>108346042do you think vtubers visit 4chan or something?
>>108346489Mint too
>>108348353They do, but anyone who provides evidence gets banned for "IRL shit", so...
>>108348373I doubt Fubuki is gonna read this thread
>>108346841Are twitch streamers even worth watching at all?
>>108349026Shondo:>am i a joke to you?
>>108349412Yes.
>>108346315>pay for membership>youtube gets 30%>pay for merch>DHL gets 50%
>>108346952get with the times current yt prioritizes people who don’t watchI used to get regular gifteds all the time as an active watcher but then the jeets at google just had to make everything worse
>>108346452>Gifts always go to the tier closest to $5Closest to $5 without going over. If you have a $2 tier and a $6 tier, the gifted memberships will be for the $2 tier.
>>108352364>current yt prioritizes people who don’t watchbullshit, my most actively watched channels are the ones where I pay for my own memberships but I haven't gotten a single gifted in 1.5 years
>>108346315You can't convince me to cancel my Okayu membership.
>>108346204Bitch you can literally watch for free. Membership streams are a bonus.
>>108346430it's for people who have money, and want to donate more, just because they have money and would like to donate more. Yes, those exist.
>>108357267Why donate to someone who cucks you with Jurard?
>>108346042$5 isn't that much unless you're a whore with 15 oshis. You aren't, right?
>>108346315the numbers matter to sponsors who pay much more than you could at one time, and if the numbers keep looking good it might be multiple times
>>108346042Never membered never supad adblock on, free entertainment simple as
>>108361300Do you only want to support your oshi?I enjoy watching many vtubers throughout the day.
>>108346065This is the only sensible route.It gives you easy cheap route to loads of emote slots, and lets people use alt accounts easily to sub on said accounts for that reason.Gifted auto-goes to nearest to $5 if I remember right.You'd need $4-6 and a further "actual member" tier to weed out the gifties.
>>108346042>multiple creatorswhy be a whore OP? you have no oshi you should just drop all of them then
>>108371793I don't watch vtubers to have sex with them.
>>108371793>you have no oshiYou dumb newfucks don't even know the meaning of oshi.What you are describing is a kami-oshi.If you're trying to be a dumbfuck weeb at least try to use their shitty terms properly.
>>108346042The greats already do.
>>108346315Voice packs gives them the most money. No Google, no taxes to Trump.
>>108346065I wish we could have this, and no regional pricing.
>get 100 gifted memberships>creator gets like 8 bucks because the guy used a vpn to pay with some obscure currency with no value
>>108372086It's insane youtube has yet not fixed it.
>>108372086That is the correct way to gift memberships
>>108372100>youtube>fixing somethinggood oneunironically all they ever do is find new things to break
>>108374051this
This multi-millionaire does not need your support.
>>108346315>buying merch>When trump put a 25-50% tax on every holo merch to fund his new pedo baseSo what's the next step in your master plan, or are we back to hoping hololive uses streamlabs or something similar so you can donate without google taking a massive cut?
>>108346042Kinda related but the other day I found a random ASMR vtuber and I was shocked she had only one member tier at like 1USD. I didn't even know YouTube let them go that low. Just shows how greedy most vtubers are.
>>108376553Most vtubers, even the ones in Hololive, are not multi-millionaires.
>>108377041anon is thinking in ARS
>>108346609i have a feeling it's not about stopping people from seeing them, but instead stopping people from chatting in them
>>108378427I get that. Everyone wants a breadcrumb of attention in a sea of chat messages.It's sad.
>>108346609How do you even pirate member content? I never see it uploaded unless they graduate.
They get my money if I think they give me enough of what I want. I've started and cancelled plenty of memberships because of what their content revolves around, and only buy merch when they really 'click' for their humor. Make me laugh, I'll give you some money.
>>108380075It's not just that. Chat is simply higher quality in general when everyone participating has spent money to be here.
>>108377041incorrect they all have more than 1million yen
>memgifters using ARS
>>108380075you literally only need to not spam 3x emotes and start saying something that's even slightly more interesting than a knee-jerk reaction to whatever's currently on streami've gotten read by gura with that strategy (although her chat speed was not that fast) and i barely watched her compared to biboo
$5 is nothing, get a job
I've been watching vtubers since 2018 and I have never, ever, ever and will never give a single cent to any of them. I'll let my paypiggies do it for me. Stay frosty.
>>108346213I rather buy a membership than a fucking plushy. I don't have a dungeon where i can hide that cringe stuff.>>108346838My Oshi is releasing 2 voice packs a month and i have been buying everyone of them but i'm not buying duplicates anymore, that's in the past.
I will never understand how anyone can legit have a membership to a vtuber or any streamer in general. You don't need to pay any of them for the content they are giving. And if you say you want to support them that makes you a pathetic lonely fag thinking they are your real friend/gf.>i-its only 5 dollarsKnow what else is 5 dollars? Some game I never played on Steam. Or food. Or literally anything else I can buy for myself instead of giving to some stranger online that wouldn't even care if I am alive or dead. Unironically save your money and spend it on a real girl for real sex. This is not me caring about you, this is me poking the logical zone of your brain so you wake the fuck up.
>>108346058Donating to vtubers you mean.
I have a few memberships at $5 per month. It's a trivial amount of money for me. I think I have like 3 right now but I've had as many as 6 before.If it's a problem for you financially, just don't buy 'em, totally optional. The extra content is nice but no big deal generally. So I don't why some people are so bothered by it. I guess a lot of posters on this board live in countries where $5 USD is like an entire day's salary and I really can understand that, but just don't pay it then... If you're morally offended by the idea of a $5 per month subscription, you have no idea the profoundly retarded shit the average first worlder spends money on, probably more money than you make in a year, and you're better off not knowing.
>>108392521The thing is, if you have a $2 tier, you reinforce the idea of everyone only having to contribute a small amount of money to keep a vtuber afloat, lessening the burden somehow.I know that this replacing a $6 tier with a $2 tier won't create 3 members instead of 1, but in an ideal world where it worked like that, the financial burden of the individual would be decreased.
