Gacha or No Gacha?What type of Game do you think this is going to be ?Are you going to play? Will Eu get the short end of the stick again?
>>108428118Gacha slop
no coca cola, no buy
Exploitative gacha slop
HOLOSTARS songs
>>108428118
>>108428118dead on arrival
>>108429113I like you Mococo, please marry me
Mite b cool
Rythmn game
It's going to be ass but still make more money than Holoearth
>>108428118Rhythm slop
>>108428118GACHA GACHA ADVENTURE
My prediction is that song removals due to graduations will be one of the biggest obstacles for the game's growth.
>>108430234The biggest issue is that Cover is making it as their track record for tech stuff has not been stellar. It's not a matter of if they will fuck it up, but rather how
>>108428118qrd? what is this?
>>108430234That's retarded, they'll just do it like idol master does where already purchased stuff is kept permanently but no new purchases can be done
>>108428118Monetization > QualityLeave it to big corpos to try an imitate big successful games and deliver slop with micro transactions. No surprises here.You know this could have been just songs for Beat Saber, the Miku game or whatever, but no, make a bullshit slopware instead.
>>108428118yes im playing
>>108428118Instant EOS
it's a project sekai/bandori type. honestly not a bad idea, some hololive songs would be very fun in a rhythm game(and some already are in some), but also some of them are probably going to be stinkers to be honest.
NO LIFE
>will also have covers of other songs like vocaloid songsi get it's to pad the song list and get extra marketing, but doesn't that become redundant, especially when i can already play those songs in project sekai?
>>108428118NO GURA NO BUYNO NIMI NO BUYTHIS WILL BE DEAD ON ARRIVAL LIKE NEXT HOLOFESTHIS THREAD IS NOT MADE BY FALSEFLAGGERS SCREENCAP THIS
Justchads...
>>108428118Gacha games are heavily relying on parasocialism nowadays, active members are going to pull ntr shit and it will effect the game. They should make some original nonvtuber IP
if you can actually make your own charts, that does put it above games like project sekai, but that's more for my own fun since I know the library online is going to be full of gimmick bullshit difficulty charts instead of actually well designed ones
>>108428118Not beating idolmasterNot beating love liveNot beating bang dream
>>108430730It'll totally happen this time bro just one more boycott bro
>>108428118It's worthless and soulless gacha shit, so obviously will be a hit.
>>108430810this is true because a lot of those games, throwing other ones like project sekai into this list too, mainly get whaled on by people who are obsessed with the stories of those characters first with the game being kind of second to that. You can't really give them the types of stories that lure those audiences in when they're based on real, active streamers. You can't write drama about a holo having daddy issues and having a falling out with another holo or is moving to another country right before the BIG SHOW or whatever when the holo is streaming like normal lol
>>108430948WWE does it all the time.
Kinda far to late, they should have release this shit during the peak of vtuber boom (and not wasting their money with that holo earth shit)
>>108430975the people that follow the stories of these types of gachashit are not the same as wrestling fans even though they pretty much consume the same media
>>108430975Those are scripted and planned. You are basically watching a play lol
>>108428118If they don't create original IP fast the games finished. No one is going to try to keep up with streamers.
>>108430997>Those are scripted and planned. You are basically watching a play lolIs someone going to tell him?
>>108430991The fuck you on about, anon? We’re still in the peak. There’s never been more vtubers than ever and it’s finally breaching the mainstream.
>>108430774This just implies the official charts will be ass and they are depending on community made ones.
>>108428118Swimsuits?
>>108430948wait people actually read those stories and not skip it for the crystals?
>no releaseMy optimist side is coping that they're drip-feeding as long as they can before announcing a date but my realist side says we're not gonna see this in our hands for a long time.Did anything ever happen with holoAlternative or did Yagoo just memory hole it?
>>108431038That wrestling is real? lol. I believe in Santa but let's not get crazy here
>>108431111There are always people who think the official charts are too easy and want something more difficult. The meme charts made by users probably fill in that gap.
>>108431143>wait people actually read those stories and not skip it for the crystals?Like 99% of discussion for games like bang dream or project sekai are about the teen drama shit written for teenage girls
>>108428118All they have to do is avoid any mass graduations, yabs, controversies and update the game regularly. Easy right?
>>108431248actually all they have to do is drop another suisei swimsuit alt with detailed nape and back shots after every controversy and they're back in the money
>>108431237Isn't the issue with this story mode that they are writing it about still active real people? There can't be any drama because they won't slander any of their own talents so it's all going to be bullshit perfect idol story crap for everyone.
>someone yabs, gets terminated, and all of their songs and cards are removed including the ones you rolled for You can't say it WONT happen
>>108430948Yeah, but then you have to also remember that there is a subsrt of fan who will pay out the ass for just about anything related to their favorite talent. Just throw in some gacha element of a rare outfit on rolls. I won't ever install the game personally or watch any stream of it, but I assume there's people buying the clothing that their Oshi hocked during their HoloEarth streams, and that's like the most retarded form of merch, just a model of something they likely own irl anyways in a shitty digital platform.
>>108431304Yeah, that's the problem I already pointed out. That it's going to be hard to steal that audience over when you can't really write even teen melodrama shit since you have to deal with real people. Unless they decide to start doing super dramatized/fictionalized versions of moments in their careers or lives like Umamusume kind of does, but they're probably not and it's mostly going to be that kind of "oh gee, we're all friends and we have to get things ready for the big show.... but what if.... I'm too nervous for the big show because I love my fans SO SO MUCH!!!!" stuff you see in the most generic idol stories
>>108428118Gacha peak
Nobody asked for this. Riku is spending Anykara's resources on training intern vtubers and then ascending good ones into full-fledged Nijis. Yagoo is instead making already outdated techbro slop that real techbros laugh at.
>>108430704But does project sekai have suisei in it??? Didn't think so
>>108430997anon... I...
>>108431145three of the holoalt manga are still ongoing anon
>>108431501It does have Suisei
>>108431482>Nobody asked for thisfactually untrue
>>108431501It basically does
Are we /vg/ yet?
I'm sad that my favourite orisong (mumei) wont be featured.
>>108431415I'm sure we can come up with better scenarios.>Towa ran out of cigarettes before the big live and it's up to her friends to run to the kombini! Will they make it in time?
What would be the game changer for this gacha?SIF introduced the basic premiseStarlight Stage introduced 3DBandori introduced outside Cover SongsProseka introduced track versions for those who don't want Vocaloid to be tainted and brutal difficultyWhat will this gacha introduce? Create a Chart?
>>108431603if she graduated while they were making the game, she probably could still show up in the game. they directly mention that in the story slide of the announcement
okay, but why can't i play holostars songs in the game? it's a rhythm game and i can just choose not to unlock their songs if i don't want to play them if it works like every other rhythm game in existence
>>108431742It's a hololive game, not holofags.
>>108431145holoAlternative has been an active thing for longer than you've been aware of Hololive. The artist for Goblin Slayer who is constantly in Holomem's chats draws one of them.
>>108431763in a rhythm game with over 150 songs(just at launch), who is really going to care if their songs are in there? It's not like playing the song means that it's projected into the IRL ears of whichever holos are on their team in game
>>108431742Idolish7, Utapri and Hypemic is two blocks down
>>108431763kek
>>108431742Because if Cover has any brains left, they know that the best way to lose a whale is when they buy $100 worth of gems and pull a UR homostar instead of their oshi
>>108431827the whales
>>108431890where in my post did i say they had to be rollable gacha characters? I'm purely talking about just being able to play music in the music game
>>108428118>gacha>the gameplay it's a rhythm gameWhy?Why do the bare minimum?Why don't make something more complex like Uma Musume?We could had an idol manager simulator-like, where you're the manager of the Idol you pulled and you get through her career, by starting with her debut, helping her being a better performer, in both streaming, stage and recording, by managing the pace and workload, preparing her for the big events. Until she will eventually graduate.I hate devs, i will never download or play this, no matter how much i love the talents.
>>108428118Proseka has Kanade. Does hololive have Kanade too??
>>108431917Yes.
>>108431917Because when you give a finger, you homostar fags will take the entire hand
>>108431917Won't make sense. This isn't D4DJ when its established they can license songs from the startAlso introducing a homo song will make players leave
>>108431949yes
>>108432018imagine the handjobs
>>108432011>Also introducing a homo song will make players leavewhy? just by principle, because it's not like it would even do anything. it wouldn't affect whales ability to roll for their girls since songs operate on a separate store that usually doesn't even require spending actual currency, it wouldn't affect the talents themselves or their streaming habits or decisions, so literally what about the option to play some songs would actually somehow make players leave?
>>108432076>just by principleyes, exactly, you get it
>>108432076>like it would even do anythingIf Multiplayer rooms happen and someone picks a homo song? Room reset, griefs will happen, you lose players, EOS all because you demanded a homo song. You homobeggar don't know how to run a business
>>108432141this literally has never happened to any rhythm game ever and it wouldn't happen to this one. even games with toxic shippers who literally stalk the VAs don't behave like this when they have to play songs sung by a character who threatens their ship in the game's story lol
>>108431942>We could had an idol manager simulator-likeThey would need to hire an expert in that area to explain the process.
>>108432076It would cause the game to make less money because people don't want homoshit in the game period. Hiding it in some corner or hidden shop doesn't fix the issue. There's like maybe a hundred people who would even pay for any of that homoshit in the game, so appealing to those few retards doesn't even make up for losing one gacha whale who doesn't want to see homoshit in the game.
>>108428118>january 8th in the year 2026>launching a new twitter accountRead the room lmaoApart from that it will be a ton of ads for cheap chinkshit sold at 20000% markup price because they slapped the holo name on it.
>>108431631absolutely the chart creator is going to be the big thing that draws outsiders to the game. it seems to pretty much be identical to fanmade ones for other rhythm games i've seen out there, but having it built into the actual game with an online distribution service is huge. If you can import your own songs for this, that'd put it miles above other games, but i imagine that might cause some hiccups and will need moderation if nothing is stopping people from importing movies and shit through the game as "custom charts" and distributing them in the game
>>108432312you're literally not paying for it. most rhythm games don't require spending actual real life money on songs, why would this game be the one to start that?
>>108432353Because people don't want that shit in the game? I don't know how else to explain this to you
>>108428118lidl project sekai
It’s simple, there are so many other rhythm games in Japan with established fanbases that you can’t convince them to move to an obviously inferior game. It’s almost guaranteed that this game will be a huge loss again. You can't even excite the fags on this board here.
>>108428118If anyone seriously thinks this could possibly not be full of gacha they might be the biggest idiot on the board.
>>108432187there is a reason why side m is a different game entirely dumbass
>>108432418it's called holos
>>108432431name me one post on this entire board who thinks this isn't a gacha game
>>108432418It's trying to make money off of already established fans of Holo and that's it.
>>108428118It's rhythm game lolMusic
>>108431111User created content is the future
>>108432492The OP asks the question. To even pose it is dumb.
>>108432141if you play multiplayer in a rhythm game, you always run the risk of playing songs you don't want to play, this is such a non-issue. if you don't want to play songs you don't want to play, just play singleplayer, it's not like you get special rewards for playing the multiplayer anyway, they don't even mention a ranked mode or anything, so even that's not an issue.
>>108428118Can someone confirm if it will have graduated members songs? because if there's no Aqua Iro Palette ain't playing this shit.
>>108432680There's a difference between having to play another holos songs than having to play homoshitter songs
>>108428118if only there was a holo that was good at rythm games
>>108431133yeeessss... YEEEEESSSS!!!!
>>108432680Cope, your faggots aren't getting in the game because they are a bet negative.
>>108431631This shit introduces the possibility of using vtuber models IP as in-game assets and money maker. Maybe a collab with FGO too.
>>108432691just play singleplayer and pick the songs you like if you're so afraid that you'll be FORCED to listen to holostars stuff.
>>108432756>FGOanon...
>>108432798Or rather, maybe I just don't play the game at all then? You see where this might be a problem when people will just not play the game because you wanted to include a bunch of leeches that no one cares about
>>108432938This isn't a real argument, the multiplayer has functionally no difference from the singleplayer outside of maybe some guy in your room is using a meta card. The big issue would be that you simply run the risk that you might get put in a room that might random onto a song you don't want. The statistical likelihood of this is already small enough as is, but if it's really something you'd be afraid of, you could always stick with the singleplayer which plays exactly the same and would allow you to make sure you never have to worry about playing that song ever. If you are actually dropping the game because you are afraid of a 1/150+ chance of rolling a song you don't like, I'm sorry, you are just an idiot.
>>108433069Nta, just make your own game then, instead of attaching to other popular group. They already make it clear hololive =/= holostar, production cope doesn't matter since they are for ID, holo en and Devis.
>>108433069If you don't think people will not play the game because it includes homoshit in it, you are just delusional
>>108433145I'd understand someone dropping the game if they were added to the gacha, I'd even say it's completely fair to decide to, but dropping it over music in a music game would be retarded.
>>108432756The collab is with niji
>>108432756Collab with Nikke or Uma
>no homo songs because of multiplayerI'd rather play a homo song than 50% of Mori's songs
>>108429077>Exploitative gacha slopOkay, but a rhythm game is less bad than an idol raising game so it does feel like a compromise with the talents. Cover gets their gacha so that whales can spend thousands on a Hololive gacha but the actual game is mostly about their music.>>108430810They don't need to beat any of the big gacha franchises and no one expects that. What they want is to release a gacha for the Hololive idol fans. Unironically there is a chance that Hololive Dreams might earn more than HoloEarth.>>108431145Cover hired a professional game studio to develop it and it seems like even graduated talents will be in the game because it has been in production for while. Might have an official release before the end of the year.
>>108428118If they fumble a gacha, which is the easiest slop in the world to make, to a fanbase known for how easily they gave money to e-girls for just existing i don't know what to tell you anon.
>>108428118What’s Holo ocg and can I even try holo earth?
I will play this as soon as it releases
>>108428118It's Hololive, and it's a gacha, literally what every holofag was asking for years. There is no way for it to fail if they know how to monetize the skins. Only broke browns can't see that gacha slop is what makes millions nowadays.
>>108428118don't care holobrown
>>108428118Not good>Myth is and continues to be too busy to stream this new game>Justice has been proven to have no impact on shilling games>Skill based when anime fans want luck based games like Umamusume
>>108435428NIJISEETHE
>>108429094Thankfully it's already branded Hololive.
>>108432076>Roll for Luna-hime or Biboo>Get spooked by a fucking Altare cardI like Hakka but having males in an all-female game is a death sentence.
>>108434506>If they fumble a gacha, which is the easiest slop in the world to make, to a fanbase known for how easily they gave money to e-girls for just existing i don't know what to tell you anon.There's a lot of competition though
Thank god for that auto mode
>>108436308Who’s hololives competition?
>>108432380You're making up false reasons to get upset over such a nothing burger, anon.
>>108432737>>108433128Anon the production label was always for ALL branches, not just the holo ones, you're just being obtuse on purpose for the sake of defending the take that not playing a game over one song in it isn't totally stupid.
>100+ posts whining why the homos aren't in the gameLeaving aside the unicorn related stuff, these days pretty much any girl-centric mobile game with males in them are immediately ridiculed and dismissed entirely by a large swath of players, and commonly beset by schizos that are several times worse than the ones in /vt/. Just take a look in the gacha drama general over in /vmg/ for an idea of how bad it can get.
>>108428118good luck
