which chuubas had the most improvement in singing since debut? i don't mean that they sing good now, but they've at least improved.
unironically Mori probably
>>108456957Compare what five years of practice and a dedicated sensei did for Nene Amanohttps://youtu.be/DxZ5w-MIVcMhttps://youtu.be/uU8E2Cr0Rykhttps://youtu.be/pWLsai2MNtU
>>108456978He said singing not nigga rapping.
>>108457009Her rapping hasn't improved at all. Her actual singing is a lot better.
>>108457006do these people just not like hiring audio engineers, or do they just admit there's not a point in trying to polish a turd?
>>108457091If she's better now how bad was she when she joined ?
Fauna went from brain-melting tone deafness to just regular bad
>>108456978I couldn't disagree more. She was my oshi for a long time and I was a huge deadbeat. Her singing voice from 2020-2022 was a lot more natural and cuter than it is now that she's been taking vocal lessons. The generic "husky" vocals she does now are fucking atrocious. I sincerely hate to shit on Mori since she already gets it bad from others, and I used to happily listen to everything she put out, but fucking lord have her vocals taken a massive hit. I can't even listen to her modern music, and I really used to love it, even when everyone else was shitting on it hard.Just compare this:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_hmvxbUUhAto this:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stRBCkykBp0Maybe it's just me and most people really do prefer how she sings now, but I can't stand it. Sorry to sperg out but I've never had the chance to cry about this before.
>>108457721Mori's natural voice is just not great unfortunately. She's singing in a healthier way now, but at what cost.
>>108456978Mori always sounds like she's in a /v/ sings. Yeah I know. It's like she has this idea in her head "I need to sound like X". For some songs it's fine. For other songs it sounds really boring.
>>108456957Certainly not Fauna. Ina and CC maybe
>>108456957None of the people who can’t sing improved. Hololive needs new singers, and cute/soothing sounding, no more opera mommy voices.
>>108456978lol
>>108456978This. She was awful when she started, and she's actually a decent singer now. Still sounds somewhat amateurish, but at least she can sing in key.
>>108458570I like Ina a lot, and she has certainly improved, but she's been at it for over 5 years, while I feel like the level of progress she's had is something she should have been able to achieve in a couple months at most. I don't know, maybe natural predisposition really does matter more than I usually give it credit for, and this is truly the best she can do.
>>108456957Zeta, it's tolerable now
>>108461982Noel is probably the most grim case of 0 improvement. Even Nimi can reliably get notes in the ballpark now.
Do corpos not pay for some coaching for their tubers?You would not try to perform with an instrument you have not learned how to play before.Seems like a no brainer to take some lessons, especially given their baseline talent.It would take less than a year for most of these girls.
>>108463988There isn't a coach on the planet who could make girls like Noel and Sana sing better.
>>108463988Probably only Hololive, the upper echelon of NijiJP, and Vsinger-focused small JP groups
Luna gotta be up there. Learning to sing in baby voice takes time.
>>108456957Mio, easily, she was never bad at it but she went from "ok" to spectacular in these last 5 or so years.
>>108464894You know that a program doesn't count
>>108464126You don't need them to, just work with what they have.
>>108466486Seethe fleshie.
>>108456957i only watch EN and non of them really, what do their singing coaches even do
>>108456957https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVxjnPwvncEshe actually improved massively She has someone make her songs like a Vocaloid now
>>108466670That's how Astrogirl ended up heavily autotuned.
>>108468154ok but this is not like a person who gained a skill
>>108473217well, the question was "which chuubas had the most improvement in singing since debut?" and this is what she used to sound like which chuubas had the most improvement in singing since debut?
>>108464126Who is Sana
>>108464894Pedoslop.
>>108474773Pedoboard
>>108474773Out of 10!
>>108456957https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGaVIS5FF_I
>>108456957Me
>>108456957Ina or Kronii.They were quite mediocre at the beginning but pretty nice nowadays.With the .jps this isn't such an issue because half of them are ex-utaites.
Not my oshi
Is it possible that singing skill and whorishness are inversely correlated?
>>108491131directly correlated, actually.
Alright, but is there anyone who has gotten WORSE at singing over time?I tuned in to Haachama's karaoke some time ago and was genuinely appalled by how bad it was. But then again, I hadn't listened to her music much before, so I'm not sure if she was always that bad.
>>108491450Mori, if the others are to be believed
>>108491450she was always pretty bad. i mean you could still be right, but i don't think it would have been by much if any. but she was definitely out of place.
>>108456978I think the opposite, I hate how she does the deep vocals like she's trying to sing like Elvis.Her peak singing for me Live Again.
>>108457721We're definitely in the minority but I fully agree, the forced whispery singing she goes for now is awful. She should have worked on her natural voice instead of shifting her singing entirely.This is peak Mori singing:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5K1zzcKSaQMSame song but with the awful voice she does now for singing:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lta02CPDDn4Debut Mori to peak Mori is a big improvement in a short amount of time, but since then she's only been getting worse. Thank God we got End of a Life before the shift.
>>108491798While I don't know if she got "worse" she definitely changed, and this helped me understand what >>108491617 meant about Elvis. That voice she does is definitely offputting. I have to say her projection got a lot better, though. If I had to pick one I'd take the later Mori, but not by much.
>>108491982>I have to say her projection got a lot better, though.It did, which just makes it more frustrating. Her technique has clearly improved, but she nerfs herself with a completely subjective choice.