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which chuubas had the most improvement in singing since debut? i don't mean that they sing good now, but they've at least improved.
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unironically Mori probably
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>>108456957
Compare what five years of practice and a dedicated sensei did for Nene Amano
https://youtu.be/DxZ5w-MIVcM
https://youtu.be/uU8E2Cr0Ryk
https://youtu.be/pWLsai2MNtU
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>>108456978
He said singing not nigga rapping.
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>>108457009
Her rapping hasn't improved at all. Her actual singing is a lot better.
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>>108457006
do these people just not like hiring audio engineers, or do they just admit there's not a point in trying to polish a turd?
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>>108457091
If she's better now how bad was she when she joined ?
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Fauna went from brain-melting tone deafness to just regular bad
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>>108456978
I couldn't disagree more. She was my oshi for a long time and I was a huge deadbeat. Her singing voice from 2020-2022 was a lot more natural and cuter than it is now that she's been taking vocal lessons. The generic "husky" vocals she does now are fucking atrocious. I sincerely hate to shit on Mori since she already gets it bad from others, and I used to happily listen to everything she put out, but fucking lord have her vocals taken a massive hit. I can't even listen to her modern music, and I really used to love it, even when everyone else was shitting on it hard.
Just compare this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_hmvxbUUhA
to this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stRBCkykBp0
Maybe it's just me and most people really do prefer how she sings now, but I can't stand it. Sorry to sperg out but I've never had the chance to cry about this before.
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>>108457721
Mori's natural voice is just not great unfortunately. She's singing in a healthier way now, but at what cost.
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>>108456978
Mori always sounds like she's in a /v/ sings. Yeah I know. It's like she has this idea in her head "I need to sound like X". For some songs it's fine. For other songs it sounds really boring.
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>>108456957
Certainly not Fauna. Ina and CC maybe
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>>108456957
None of the people who can’t sing improved. Hololive needs new singers, and cute/soothing sounding, no more opera mommy voices.
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>>108456978
lol
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>>108456978
This. She was awful when she started, and she's actually a decent singer now. Still sounds somewhat amateurish, but at least she can sing in key.
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>>108458570
I like Ina a lot, and she has certainly improved, but she's been at it for over 5 years, while I feel like the level of progress she's had is something she should have been able to achieve in a couple months at most.
I don't know, maybe natural predisposition really does matter more than I usually give it credit for, and this is truly the best she can do.
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>>108456957
Zeta, it's tolerable now
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>>108461982
Noel is probably the most grim case of 0 improvement. Even Nimi can reliably get notes in the ballpark now.
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Do corpos not pay for some coaching for their tubers?
You would not try to perform with an instrument you have not learned how to play before.
Seems like a no brainer to take some lessons, especially given their baseline talent.
It would take less than a year for most of these girls.
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>>108463988
There isn't a coach on the planet who could make girls like Noel and Sana sing better.
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>>108463988
Probably only Hololive, the upper echelon of NijiJP, and Vsinger-focused small JP groups
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Luna gotta be up there. Learning to sing in baby voice takes time.
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>>108456957
Mio, easily, she was never bad at it but she went from "ok" to spectacular in these last 5 or so years.
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>>108464894
You know that a program doesn't count
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>>108464126
You don't need them to, just work with what they have.
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>>108466486
Seethe fleshie.
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>>108456957
i only watch EN and non of them really, what do their singing coaches even do
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>>108456957
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVxjnPwvncE
she actually improved massively
She has someone make her songs like a Vocaloid now
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>>108466670
That's how Astrogirl ended up heavily autotuned.
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>>108468154
ok but this is not like a person who gained a skill
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>>108473217
well, the question was "which chuubas had the most improvement in singing since debut?"
and this is what she used to sound like
which chuubas had the most improvement in singing since debut?
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>>108464126
Who is Sana
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>>108464894
Pedoslop.
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>>108474773
Pedoboard
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>>108474773
Out of 10!
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>>108456957
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGaVIS5FF_I
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>>108456957
Me
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>>108456957
Ina or Kronii.
They were quite mediocre at the beginning but pretty nice nowadays.
With the .jps this isn't such an issue because half of them are ex-utaites.
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Not my oshi
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Is it possible that singing skill and whorishness are inversely correlated?
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>>108491131
directly correlated, actually.
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Alright, but is there anyone who has gotten WORSE at singing over time?
I tuned in to Haachama's karaoke some time ago and was genuinely appalled by how bad it was. But then again, I hadn't listened to her music much before, so I'm not sure if she was always that bad.
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>>108491450
Mori, if the others are to be believed
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>>108491450
she was always pretty bad. i mean you could still be right, but i don't think it would have been by much if any. but she was definitely out of place.
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>>108456978
I think the opposite, I hate how she does the deep vocals like she's trying to sing like Elvis.
Her peak singing for me Live Again.
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>>108457721
We're definitely in the minority but I fully agree, the forced whispery singing she goes for now is awful. She should have worked on her natural voice instead of shifting her singing entirely.
This is peak Mori singing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5K1zzcKSaQM
Same song but with the awful voice she does now for singing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lta02CPDDn4
Debut Mori to peak Mori is a big improvement in a short amount of time, but since then she's only been getting worse. Thank God we got End of a Life before the shift.
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>>108491798
While I don't know if she got "worse" she definitely changed, and this helped me understand what >>108491617 meant about Elvis. That voice she does is definitely offputting. I have to say her projection got a lot better, though. If I had to pick one I'd take the later Mori, but not by much.
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>>108491982
>I have to say her projection got a lot better, though.
It did, which just makes it more frustrating. Her technique has clearly improved, but she nerfs herself with a completely subjective choice.



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