Unironically.If you're forced to just watch a stream you're competing with every other video on YouTube when it comes to interaction.
Why does Biboo still not have 1 million subs?
>>108466222She's not a numberfag like FWMC are
>>108466101The real question is how is Nerissa so close to 1 million and ahead of Biboo
>>108466101The fuck. How did Nerissa obtain these numbers?
>>108466304She used to be really exciting and a top tier leech
>>108466101Because she is fat and ugly and you can hear that from her voice
She told people to respect her Collab choices so they respectfully didn't sub to her
>>108466304She's just a better vtuber than Biboo
>>108466310>he doesn't know
>>108466203kek
>>108466368what's bibot's excuse?
>>108466101She banned quite a few fans after her woman moment and it scared away potential viewers
>>108466454Saba never streams that's gotta be why.
>>108466101homocollabs
>>108466304boobs
>>108466304>Why does the singer of advent have so many subsWell shit that's a fucking mystery. It's almost like her first couple months had a massive wave of subs from the songs she put out
>>108466101Why is there like 5 different threads like this? just a thread with a bunch of holowhores numberfagging it up about youtube subs.
>>108466222She would if she did subathons like the two ahead of her.
Judas
>>108466101Now compare their membership numbers.
>>108466101The Homos and Cuckshit this board cares so much about aside, she kneecapped herself in the beginning by going on a hiatus within the most crucial weeks for a new gens growth and aside from a few rare moments were she plays fotm makes sure she stays a niche within the niche of vtubers.
>>108467499(me)And to add, she doesn't put out any music either, does she even have an original?!
>>108467546She has no originals, and her covers are pretty low in views as well other than her first one when she still had "goth gf momentum"
>>108466304Singer buff + lot of numbers stream.
>>108466101It's crazy that Nerissa has more subs than BibooI guess numberfagging pays off
>>108467897it also helps that she grifted off of graduations as well since she started a stream immediately after fauna's, mumei's, and gura's graduation streams to "have a place for people to mourn"
I feel like 20 years ago she would have been boxxyI just don't like her vibes
>>108467546Management won't let her release the NTR song she wrote before she joined
>>108466101Shiori is the worst background noise in Hololive.I say this as someone that likes her streams, but her streams generally have some kind of visual component that's terrible for second monitor content. Usually her streams are full of visual gags or assets that require you to actively watch and stay engaged in order to enjoy properly. This leaves pretty much 90% of her streams on a "okay I want to watch Shiori but I'm busy right now so I'll have to wait until I have free time for the vod."
>>108468525As someone who used to watch Ame from 2020 until she graduated, I know this feeling.
Shiori has the best design of the bunch but her voice is horrible and does not match her model.
>>108468847That's an interesting observation. Is there any model currently in Hololive that would match her voice?
>>108466101She needs to stop hiding her tits and let those milkers out
>>108468847Her voice is fine, like Biboo she settled with a voice more natural to her anyway.I get the picture of the ideal deep sexy voice goth but believe someone who hanged out alot with alternative chicks back in the day, few of them do have that.
>>108466304>>108467897nerissa is better than bibot
>>108466101Picrel
>>108467897Don't underestimate zatsudan streamers. Talking a bit about herself then 8 hours Soulsslop is not for everyone.Biboo started slurring her words more and has her surprise loud moments.
What >>108467499 said + she lacks a true "gimmick" out of anyone in Advent Biboo streams an large ammountNerissa singsFuwamoco are twins + pander to nips + proactively beg for subs Shiori....just sorta exist, I guess she does stuff with unofficial 3D models, but that's not nearly as unique in the current day when Ame used do it in 2021 >>108470010>Don't underestimate zatsudan streamersNerissa's subs 100% do not come zatsu streams lolThey came from her marketing herself as the Utaite of her gen and having several hit original/covers early in her career
>>108469685basedI hope that art anon find a better oshi
>>108466101The rest of Advent is just that good. FuwaMoco is a breath of fresh air in a branch that has coddled troons/fags/beggars/etc, Nerissa kind of fell off last year but at least she doesn't homocollab, Biboo is another breath of fresh air that was able to fill the loli void after that lazy bitch Gura left. Shiori has 0 talent, at least Liz despite also being a homobeggar has singing. Shiori has literally nothing biggest fumble of Hololive not embracing her emo dommy aesthetic. Her character designer must hate her
>>108470010It's likely less that and more the music side.Singers in general bring in wider audiences
>>108466101>holo vs holo faggotry Classic
>>108466310it's the opposite
Why even have a /#/ thread if you're just going to make numberfagging threads on the catalog?You have one for CC as well.
>>108470532Ask the jannies
>>108466335Girl got pipes, raw talent always gets followers
>>108466304>>108466335quality > quantitytalent > effort
>>108471076And a sexo model and also a sexy speaking voice with a great personality to boot
>>108470010>Biboo started slurring her words moreI stopped watching after her Minecraft arc. I can't stand her laugh and then "uuuuuuuhhhhhh" thing she does now.
>>108466101She did a lot of dumb things that scared away viewers. I still think she can pull a Kronii and make a come back, but she would have to make a hard pivot sooner rather then later.She doesn't have the soothing voice or personality of Kronii but she has other aspects.
>>108471991you never watched her, pablo.
>>108469157nta but Shiori has never sounded like any goth I have come across unless I include the fat ones.
>>108472262she is not even goth its just her model that make people assume she is goth
>>108472262cheeky bastard
>>108466101Genuinely boring. And this was even before she decided to collab with the homos. If you watched her before she became Shiori props to you but I can't enjoy her content... I don't know what you see in her
>>108470404You're just mad cuz she is with FlayGOD now :)
>>108472143retard.
>>108472600Dunno what they do behind closed doors but she sure treats Flayon like a personal onahole on stream. The EN Homocollabers all want Hakka and Bettel
>>108472755What is this supposed to be proving? you had 9 months time to click on them and leave them running on mute in the background.
>>108467499It wasn't a hiatus that stunted her growth it was the fact everyone knew her RM activities.. Vtuber fans are some of the most schizo, terminally online deranged communities to exist. Tourists are extremely rare, and even the ones we do see usually search "vtuber's name past life" before committing as a gachikoi.
>>108467069That would have made sense if it wasn't more than two years running and the fact Nerissa gives a heck of a lot more than she gets, lots sometimes to her own detriment. She had and still does have the most original and covers in the group, even considering that she is the singer. We've had trolls saying Biboo will eclipse Nerissa for almost 3 years now, and people need to recognize those people are either idiots or Advent antis who hate both of them and cut the crap.
>>108473032nobody cares about that shit. otherwise mori wouldn't be the daisenpai of EN and by far the most successful myth member
>>108473475There is definitely some reason why people didn't want to sub to Shiori when compared to her genmates
>>108473697It couldn't possibly have anything to do with the difference in their content. Clearly it all comes back to doxxshit. This is why CC/GG are pariahs and have the worst growth of any holomem. They must kick puppies on their RMs or something.
>>108473475Mori is a fucking monster with a movie worthy idol journey, if the retards parroting 4 year old shit want to realize it or not. Shiori still comes over as doing all of this ironically and I say that as somebody who fairly often watches her for literally who horror"ish" games
>>108466304Nerissa had early singer buff + lewd vibes, in time people noticed that Biboo is the better streamer but the gap was still too wide
>>108466101She collabed with homo
>>108466304Aradia buff
>>108466304Nerissa is a good singer and that really helps with getting subs from JP fans. Biboo is a loli that boosted her subs. Roara is an artist who often streams in JP friendly hours. Fuwamoco are twins who do many JP streams. Unicorns will claim that it was Holostars collabs that limited her growth but Shiori was competing with the rest of Advent that got far more JP subscribers. The EN vtuber market was saturated with thousands of vtubers by the time Advent debuted. That is why newer EN talents are struggling to get a million subscribers which is only to get worse with each new gen. Even if Hololive EN had used the Nijisanji method of spamming new gens it wouldn't have done much to bring in new viewers. The vtuber market had a huge decline after lockdowns ended which is why Luxiem was mostly a mirage since it didn't reflect the EN market. The EN vtubers who want higher subscriber numbers will have to get the attention of JP fans.
>>108474137huh? Out of nowhere comes this nigga and says something to ponder on but then again Dev_Is Raden not withstanding.
>>108474202Raden filled in a niche and her mushroom dance went viral. EN needs to get lucky with their own mushroom dance.
>>108466310she's browner than any asian that I know
>>108475855depends on the season
>>108474087>married woman buffed herJailbirds are unironic cucks
>>108466304Biboo just sucks despite MAJOR shilling on this board
>>108476120From what I saw it was Nerissa getting cucked by the Jailbirds because some of them kept asking for Aradia.
>>108476153lol poor Nerissa, that's rough that her own fans prefer some married hag that watches asmongold
>>108476147Biboo's popular despite your major shitposting, actually.
Biboo and Fuwamoco are the most beloved EN in Japan which is significant since vtubing in the west was a fad and is dying rapidly.
Bijou still hasn't reached 1 million? Judging by the amount of attention she gets here, I thought she would be more popular than that.
Because Shiori is a bitch and she's annoying. Her voice reminds me of someone who was in Niji EN or Vshojo. Maybe it's because she's Asian.
>>108477040>hereso like what? 20 people?
>>108477104She should have joined Vshojo back when she had a chance even Niji EN would have been a better fit for her
>>108466101Gravity.
>>108477144She didn't really like VShojo otherwise she would have orbited them like the rest.
>>108466304>>108466335early game hype, mid game begging, late game bots
>>108466304i think shill her subs button and not sure if she did singing to milestone karaoke
>>108466101In terms of superchat, she actually mogs all 3. Novelites are of better quality than pebblephiles and ruffians. She also has a higher CCV than the FWMC and Nerissa now.
>>108477528Yeah subs don't mean anything, Biboo farmed cunny enjoyers and indo fans, nerissa got most of her subs from her early cover spam, and fwmc was the 1st twin niche, but it doesn't mean much if they don't stick around and watch.
>dogsDivide by 2>NerissaDivide by however many family members she has
>>108466101yet she is now mogging Nerissa in CCV, SC revenue, memberships and merch sales
>>108480416That's entirely due to Nerissa doing fuck all.
>>108480231>shioriDivide by homostars
>>1084662221. She's not a numberfag2. She's not the best singer (sorry pebblephiles, but chumbuds do have a one-up on you. Gura had the voice of an angel, while Biboo is vocally mid at best)3. Some of the things Biboo has done, Gura did better (again, she can never be Gura's true replacement, because no one can be (see 5))4. Her penchant for soulslop kills some growth (Souls becomes very niche especially after 10+ hour long playthroughs)5. No COVID buff (this only really applies to Myth, but please consider this)That said, and desu, to have 920k despite not numberfagging is VERY impressive. Many Gura-killers (Yuko Yurei, Komachi Panko, Petra Gurin) WISH they could have a sub number that high, as they usually would numberfag hard just to maintain their audience.Biboo will get her million soon, but I do think she needs to do something really spectacular. Or make such an impressive improvement on her singing that there'll be a sudden jump; I'm not a believe in talent as I believe more in perseverance and hard work, but I do think Gura was actually a trained singer and child entertainer unlike Biboo. Biboo will have to grind even more to truly match Gura's level
>>108466304White girls are just built different, koSEAki bibot never stood a chance.
>>108484556Amazing how you can say so much reasonable stuff and still be an obnoxious cumbutt
>>108466101You love to see it. And they say unicorns dont matter, heh. I wish we could see the exact merch sales numbers too. I wonder if she regrets being such a homo loving skank?
>>108466454her excuse for what? doing great? not sure what you're asking
>>108484684She sells more merch than Nerissa and Biboo retard.
>>108484746Sure, the voices in your head tell you that? No one buys her shit and you know it "b...but her stuff was sold out one time" yeah because they manufacture tons less of it. No demand, no supply
>>108477040She was initially lot more behind in subs and only started growing fast in second year almost catching up to Nerissa
>>108466101It's the weird cuckshit.Like for other vtubers you can argue it's not like that and unicorns are schizos but Shiori is pretty open about fans feeling cucked by male collabs being her actual fetish
>>108473475Mori unironically changed as a person for the better, she used to have a pathological need to "own the haters" which directly led to the Lean Arc
>>108466101With how much Shiori art I see compared to the rest I'd have never guessed she had the least subs, quite the contrary
>>108484889>t-they rigged the sales! Listen to yourself. It's pathetic.
>>108466101She skips group collabs all the timeEven this week there were watchalongs for whatever, that new mobile game maybe, and while the others did it as a group stream she did it as a solo oneShe either does this or skips the group events entirely and doesn’t do any kind of stream
>>108488414>Production is based on projected sales to prevent loss and maximize profitability>Crazy rrat schizo. Listen to yourself
It's so fucking funny this girl managed to live out her NTR dreams on such a big stage.
>>108488679sometimes dreams do come true
>>108488558She doesn't skip Advent collabs usually
>>108466101its well known that shes a whore
>>108488253She gets alot of art because they like her model. But those artists rarely watch her streams and it rarely reflects what happens on stream or the games she plays.
>>108488679Brick was for how bricked up she was. That day was the biggest nut of her life.
>>108466101really don't get how nerissa has more subs than biboo. really is a fucking mystery to me
>>108466101I'm just respecting her collab choices by not subbing.
>>108490596>hot model, hot voice, fat tits>tried (very superficially) to pander to gooners early on>her family hard carrying her content>Repeatedly followed every graduation streams with her own "cry with me" sessions, trying to capitalize on it like the good numberfagging whore she isBut it's over now, her current decline is among the steepest in HoloEN history. She’s consistently at the bottom in CCV, her merch isn’t selling, SC revenue has plummeted and memberships have completely stagnated
>>108490596Most Hololive fans do not watch streams. Biboo having better, longer and more consistent streams means nothing to an audience that never intended to watch them and are dead subs from the moment they press the button.If you just check clips and listen to the originals / covers / watch the 3D performances, it's not hard to see how Nerissa would look more appealing. And sure enough she has decent numbers on Spotify. More monthly listeners than Kiara, IRyS or Bae, all girls with a lot more music than she has.
>>108492008Hi Rissa, nice ass
>>108466101Similar reason why she got shit views before joining Hololive. She's boring. Even before I had a negative opinion of her, I didn't find her entertaining.
>>108488679That's true, and I don't even like her.
>>108492055proof?
>>108466304>>108466335Because delusional fags think Loud=Good Singer so they subscribe en masse, truth is she's shit and boring as all hell and her fandom only has one joke (haha pregnant).
>>108493915but enough about ERB
>>108466101Because she is a fugly whore
>>108466101sea monkeyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIJDFkVA7t8
>>108496030embarrassing
>>108470334Shiori's gimmick is the membership content. This leads to high member numbers, but low subs.
>>108466101>6101>61 human one>01 void oneShe's the only real one, that's why.Fake ones easily get more sheep.
>>108466101What happened to the anon who was making the shiori sex doll
>>108496030>6030>60 human voided>30 Holy Trinity voidedTool of the devil, find Jesus.>>108496060>6060>60 human voided>60 human voided>human voided twice, no void made at the endKeep the good work.Yotsuba Captcha:DesuGenshi Impact primogemsMy OS choice
>>108496590i think it killed him
>>108496643>6643The power of Christ compels you evil Yotsuba number algorithm!
>>108496643What mental illness is this?
>>108496925>6925>69 nice>25 two empires: Roman (derogative), A.E.I.O.U. (derogative)>nice two empiresYou are being used by the devil and you don't know it.You need to accept our Lord Jesus Christ.The power of Christ compels you!
>>108466101she's noticeably lower quality than the others desu, low quality baits, shitposting, but I'm sure she has her special moments and charms that her fans enjoys, and she probably likes the filters she laid out for herself and her community, I just think there's better holos to watch for the most part
>>108466304She's going to keep increasing the gap as long as she hangs with FWMC and they keep involving her in JP streams.
>>108498968True, the only way she can draw in and keep viewers these days is if they don’t understand a single word she’s saying.
