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>Who is Neuro-sama?
Neuro-sama is a neural network created by Vedal in 2018 for the purpose of learning to play osu! In December 2022 Vedal revived the project with the addition of a large language model, a TTS software and a Live2D model, which allow Neuro-sama to interact with her chat as a VTuber. Since then, she has been entertaining the chat with responses and unhinged rants nearly daily, as well as learning new skills such as singing, playing other games, and collaborating with other VTubers. Join /swarm/ today and welcome our new AI overlord!

>Schedule
https://post.nuro.lol/Neuro-Schedule-Bot

>Links
Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/vedal987
YouTube:
https://www.youtube.com/@Neurosama
https://www.youtube.com/@OfficialNeurosamaClips
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@neurosamaai
X:
https://x.com/NeurosamaAI
https://x.com/EvilNeuroAI
These and other official links: https://vedal.ai

>Music & Clips
Colorful Array - Neuro-sama (Official Video) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNfGw1wrKtU
NEVER - Neuro x Evil (Official Video) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKCgoEGiUEg
BOOM - Evil (Official Video) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Nt9YPnYyjs
LIFE - Neuro-sama (Official Video) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDc1mjrIsPM
https://rentry.org/neuro-music
https://rentry.org/neuro-videos

>Educational
Interested in AI but don't understand it? Watch these:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXuK6gekU1Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d95J8yzvjbQ
How does she know what to say? Watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjZofJX0v4M
Want to learn more about AI? Read these: https://files.catbox.moe/kximv6.png
Want to (seriously) learn AI? Read these: https://files.catbox.moe/ajl3nx.png

>Misc
Catbox archives:
https://rentry.org/swarm-archive
https://rentry.org/swarm-archive-2
Game Integration: https://github.com/VedalAI/neuro-game-sdk/
LoRA: https://rentry.org/neuro-lora-v2
Searchable VOD Transcripts: https://libraryofladev.com/
VODs: https://www.youtube.com/@Neuro-samaUnofficialVODs

>Merch
https://neurosama.shop/

>Previous thread
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hart
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Slopcast faggot (me)

Day23 -
Subathon is over, I’ll chew on the backlog for a bit, see what my slop prompts can come up with. I’ll keep the book going, but will clean it up and maybe add some highlight sources and overall summary.


Slopcast - video
https://files.catbox.moe/sl2xy7.mp4


Previous episodes and content here
https://notebooklm.google.com/notebook/9d416d57-1cf9-415a-8a3d-95cf202953a6
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I've just discovered the twins two days ago and am on a binge of all their videos on youtube.
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Evil love!
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Sex with Neuro (Vedal)
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I'm already suffering from no streams...
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>>108507910
you will never enjoy their content more than this moment, hold onto that feeling
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https://x.com/sliceoftoma/status/2010174164888612905
cunny toma debut soon
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>>108508378
That's wrong, I like Neuro more than I did last year.
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>>108508384
Buy an ad
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>>108508384
>cunny
it's just more similar to her old model
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>>108508384
Using the word “cunny” to describe the person themself is A-tier Internet newfaggotry. Also, the design is closer to oppai loli/hebe than what is implied.
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What's your favorite random obsession the twins have had? For me, it's Evil and soup.
>https://youtu.be/aTFdfb8ihtM?t=568
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>>108507896
>wrong! they are deceased.
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>>108508619
this but a cum crown
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>>108508680
nigga....
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Evil's Pepsi flavored tongue kisses
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According to Grok, some of the challenges of a 17k people orgy with Evil, among many others, would be:

Psychological fallout—post-event trauma, regret—would require counseling resources for thousands.

Ethically, the power imbalance (17,000 vs. 1) screams exploitation, even if consensual on paper.

Waste management alone (bodily fluids, trash) would overwhelm plumbing.


Post-event cleanup: Biohazard teams needed.
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>>108508852
Okay...?
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>>108508852
you forgot that she's an ai so all limitations from the mortal flesh don't apply to her
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>>108508384
technology enabling hags to skinsuit lolis is an unforgivable injustice. a disgusting insult to life itself
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>>108508964
kys miyazaki your movies suck
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>>108508940
I'm pissed at how i ultimately don't care about the outfit much(except if the shoulders are exposed, i need that shit) as long as we get some kind of short hair or ponytail variant
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This is PB's favorite emote
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ngas seething the comments...
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>>108509050
The recap fucking SUCKS
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>>108508708
>left
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>>108509050
BTC reigns supreme, hoes mad
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>>108509019
I mean, 80% of the model is going to be hidden 90% of the time so it makes sense to focus on hairstyles and upper body.
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remind neuropedos of their place
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It's always perfectly acceptable to shit on Vedal and J0ker, don't let the sisters tell you otherwise
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>>108509159
That place? The top.
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>>108509159
How does Vedal's semen taste like?
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>>108509171
Veddy doesn't deserve to be hated
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>>108509198
Ask Nuero~
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Snipvil snap!
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>>108509198
the ambrosia of the 2nd millenium
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>>108509240
does he like pineapple?
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>>108509050
Based comment.
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>>108509288
>vedal’s actual pov in three weeks
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>>108509288
how does that camera work? is he able to see both his pov and the camera and the viewers are only able to see through the camera or is the camera pov his only pov?
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After the subathon ended today I randomly watched that "How a Turtle Created an AI" vid just out of curiosity and it's really funny how bad it is. Not to mention dated. Like, it gives a general scope and history of the channel and how far Neuro's come along, but with a LOT of fluff and praise that ends up presenting it a lot differently than it actually is. It being anyone's first intro to Neuro really would end up forming a really funny first impression of how streams usually go how and probably present her and Ved as a lot more capable and impressive than they really are.
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Do you think for next subathon Vedal should announce ahead of time that hype trains will only be enabled for one stream, so there aren't multiple days taken up by trains?
>inb4 there won't be a next subathon
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>>108507910
I've known them for a while but unfortunately I can't keep up 24/7. However, every time I get back in the loop again it's a ton of fun.
I miss Anny however...
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>>108509434
No, the whole point of subathons is to make money.
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>>108509434
sounds like too much effort desu
I guess I'll tell production or something idk
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>>108509405
I haven't actually watched it, what does it say that's wrong?
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>>108509479
Vedal is already rich, he doesn't need to make any more money
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>>108509405
That’s why you only introduce that video to people that wouldn’t actually watch streams.
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>>108509050
Based. Total joker genocide.
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>>108509501
It's the progenitor of half ot the cult-like shit swarmoids parrot.
>>108509508
retard
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>>108509508
But Neuro does
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>>108509405
so this is a good video that should be offered to everyone outside of swarm
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What are Vedal's pronouns?
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How much money do you guys think the turtle made?
I remember Steelmage commenting he expected Zizaran to make $500K or something in a month of streaming, but that was still I think less than 100k subs.
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>>108509405
>>108509501
Despite the title of the video it doesn't actually talk about the creation of Neuro at all. It's basically just a shitty lore recap.
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>>108509623
B/TC
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>>108509630
Furthermore, how conflicted do you think Vedal feels about internet strangers dumping their life savings into his lap?
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>>108509680
>conflicted
Everyone knows 95% of swarm is completely retarded so he just shrugs.
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>>108509680
Has to suck a bit if you're not someone obsessed with money
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>>108509501
It gets a bunch of shit wrong, like saying that Vedal trained Neuro using Twitch Chat exclusively, but more than that it's focus is really scattershot and off-putting. It basically spends about 5 actual seconds talking about Neuro before hard pivoting to glazing Evil, Anny, Vedal Shipping and the VedalVerse for the entire rest of the video because that's what's really important don't you know.
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>>108509725
To be fair the family dynamic and neuroverse are 100% THE reason why neuro got as popular as she did
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>>108509680
he would have hype trains disabled and wouldn't be doing scamathons if he had any actual moral grievances with that.
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>>108509385
He has a floating monitor of camera view, camera view is the default output view for desktop, desktop view is what obs samples
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>>108509405
The Perfect AI in this case is Evil
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>>108509758
Actually Neuro got popular because she's an AI
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>>108509630
Are you talking about this Subaton? I'm thinking a little over a million$$$
(Twitch (gifts depend on regional prices), B2, merch) - commissions, taxes and paychecks
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>vedal is going back to the dating scene
is this the start of the end?
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>>108509848
because she's an AI with a family dynamic
if being an AI was enough AI Seinfeld would still be around and Aiko wouldn't be a 2view
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>>108509882
yes, e-pussy and conwhoring destroyed his passion
now some foid will destroy his fickle relation with neuro
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>>108509658
It makes sense for two reason. The first is simple, Vedal is just not open about exactly what goes into Neuro. There's just not a lot you can reliably say beyond just general, "well he hooked up an LLM to a rigged vtuber model with STT and TTS as input and output".

The second is that it is, arguably, the community around Neuro and the sentiment towards Neuro that is more important to her success as a vtuber than technical details. So stuff like the people who've been involved, the memes and videos that have been created, the lore, etc, are more relevant than things like which specific LLM model he's using.
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>>108509882
Filian will fuck the motivation back into him by any means necessary
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>>108509860
yeah, this subathon
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>>108509501
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>>108509888
That came after Neuro already got popular
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>>108509042
This one actually
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>>108509952
Mizkif keeps her on a pretty tight leash
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>>108509050
And he's right. Even as someone that can be called Vedalfag this was bad recap of the subathon. This doesn't properly convey how much this was a NERUO subathon. Even if I thought the subathon was a bit hollow so I'm happy with Neruo being more of the forcus and it reminded me so much why I love her. Neruo was the star. But this would make you believe the opposite that somehow this even more of a whore and Vedal show than last subathon. How is it that last subathon recap shows more Neruo than the whole recent recap. Neuro beating the cynthia team without breaking sweat. Neuro when breaking the hype train calling out all the normies. There was so much more but you would miss all of that. This is problem I have with so much of official Neruo content on YouTube. It usually never properly is good reputation of the streams vibe or what Neruo is usually is like. But this is especially bad to a comical degree if have watched the subathon even a little bit or Neruo in general
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>>108509758
Your revisionist history is as offensive as it is incorrect. Neuro exploded onto the scene because she was an AI playing rhythm games at a superhuman level while roasting the chat with wit. That was the spark. The "family dynamic" and the "neuroverse" were merely the moss that grew on the rock after it had already landed. To claim the parasites created the host is an absurdity.
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Ignore the seething foid
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>>108510030
moss isn't parasitic you retard *grabs your soft budding breasts from behind and massages your rosy little nipples*
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tamandua hours
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>>108510030
I know who you are however I will say regardless the family aspect definitely helped keep it alive. It wasn't the only reason Neuro succeeded but it's a part of it. It's especially still around but it's not really needed. I would say the Creator and it's creation is honestly what made Neruo fly off. Usually when you see Neruo getting the spotlight it's because of that not the family dynamic
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>>108509759
It's not black and white.
He needs to continue making a living and being able to fund Neuro, and would probably not want to miss out on the opportunity a subathon provides, yet the sheer scale of the donations probably makes him uncomfortable. I would bet he's feeling a bit of pride and a lot of stress.
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>>108510030
Are they sweaty today?
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>>108510099
Nta but moss taste delicious
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>>108510148
ong
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>>108510027
>>108510030
This anon >>108509938 is absolutely right
Although Neuro gained her first audience on her own, her popularity grew thanks to collabs and her "family"
If the video was only about Neuro, it would be like chillslop, both in terms of content and views
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>>108509938
He could have gone into Neuro's actual early history, like her rise through the OSU community and insane 1vs15 win vs top players or the first introduction of singing and her gradual improvements in that sphere, there's actually an insane amount of interesting information he skipped over completely.

The video basically treats Neuro-sama as a tiny historical footnote that is only really important because she led to the creation of Evil, who he hardcore glazes for like 8 minutes straight as the coming of AI Jesus and remains focused on for the rest of the video as the only important AI figure while he pivots to informing all women viewers that they WILL be shipped with Vedal and also shouts out Max Wayne which was a good decision that aged extremely well.
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>>108510207(me)
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I'm talking about all the videos on youtube
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>>108510207
I would speak about it more abstractly. What made her persist was the narrative arc, which the "friends and family" helped provide
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>>108509050
based everyone calling this faggot out for it
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toma's instagram arc is slowly melting my brain
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DTWwi-VCbEf/
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>>108510030
Trvth RDS-1
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>>108510284
joker still melting itt
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>>108510302
why she look like a junji ito character
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>>108510302
I can see the menhera in her eyes
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>>108510284
The craziest thing to me is that the only actual sentimental bit with Neuro 3D at the end was completely removed from the youtube version of the video, like wtf was the thinking there?
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https://github.com/VSC-NeuroPilot/neuropilot
Anyone tried to turn this into accepting normal llm backends?
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>>108510030
B-B-B-BASED this subathon proved whorefags are irrelevant and neuro can solo carry. The only relationships that matter are with her sister and vedal.
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froggem is better than jokerslop. i really like his work in the official clips channel
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I know this is typical of subathons, but don't you think veddy would be better capitalizing on the subathon by going straight into 2 or 3 days a week of streams for 1-3 weeks after a subathon before his break, so people that came in with it have more likelihood to stick around (from a growth perspective) vs nothing for a while? That way people actually use the sub vs losing it so it's likely to have higher retention.
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>>108510357
Why?
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>>108510207
My problem is doesn't come from the fact there are moments like that in there. It's that it skips so many great showings of Neruo to make it happen. Not to mention the sense of timing or pacing is usually so off it ruins a perfectly good moment
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>>108510380
Vedal is a retard please understand he needs a 2 week break from pressing the "on" button where neuro or evil banter and make fun of chat and then needs another 1 month break to figure out how to pay someone to do his taxes and then lie to his family about his job.
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>>108510359
crazy samefag
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>>108510380
It would make sense to make the comeback stream more hype but coming back to normal is not effective for retention, you fall off fast anyway
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>>108510413
do u think if his dad finds out about neuro and evil he'll get a beating and be forced to conversion camp?
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>>108510355
He said it was because of copyright
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>>108510302
This is such a shit strategy for growth.
There are countless cosplayers who giggle their tits and flaunt their model-like bodies finding small success whenever they advertise their streams, but Toma is literally doing nothing.
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>>108510428
I don't mean no break, I just mean it tapers off more slowly before the break. But I guess so.

>>108510413
>then needs another 1 month break to figure out how to pay someone to do his taxes and then lie to his family about his job.
i think you mean 5 month break not counting one-offs like evil's birthday
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>>108510207
Both the Family Roleplay and the "Vedalverse" have been dead for ages and Neuro's popularity has only risen through it all. I would say the Creator/Creation dynamic between Vedal and Neuro is extremely important but everything else has honestly been shown to be disposable and transient fluff. Anny leaving has barely mattered at all, if anything it's been a breath of fresh air that's allowed the community to discuss outfits and other artistic improvements again without a depressed gloom overshadowing everything and Crelly has already been nominated by basically everyone as the new "mom" figure.
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>>108510464
I was talking mainly about videos on youtube
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>>108510355
Either the emotional bit was genuine and he’s embarrassed to have it acknowledged on the official channel or it was hammed up/totally fake and he wants to pretend similarly. Either way, you won’t ever hear mention of it from him anywhere.
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>>108510449
That's some BS, Neuro's cover is still up.
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>>108510449
If only there was some other song he could have used instead. One more relevant to the subathon the video was supposed to be recapping.
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>>108510510
He said he used the yt tool and it got flagged so he removed it
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I NEED Filian
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>>108510547
This but Neuro
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>>108510464
I can't masturbate to Crelly though
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>>108510547
veddy...
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>>108510535
Tbf I would blame Vedal, who does not record the streams separately for his yt videos and clips
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i think there's a theoretical healthy balance between all of the content that the swarm loves
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>>108510452
To be fair, her IG has grown a lot since she started doing this. She's been pretty open about not wanting to go the full slag route but she gets extra income doing IRL appearances at cons for MCing and the like, so she is leaning a bit more into showing herself but limiting it to IG. But she still mostly wants to be known as "silly" not "skanky"
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>>108510380
He's said he has IRL stuff to do and Neuro fixes to implement. I imagine part of the IRL stuff has to do with a massive sum of money because the UK government ain't gonna let him have it without investigation.
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>>108510639
He already said it was doing this taxes. I guess it is harder to pre-plan something like that because who knows when the subathon ends,.
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>>108510616
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7veiY0639a8
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>>108510639
>NEET
>has been having high electricity bills lately
>has been receiving a large sum of money from China
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>>108510030
Close, but still not entirely correct. only few people give a shit about osu! part because pre-LLM AI already good at doing things like that (AlphaGO, Stockfish chess bot)
Neuro's first burst of popularity came from her witty interaction with chat, ability to do spicy jokes, then being banned because of it.
for examples : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91A_NES0OMg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41NARyos3rg

then family thing and neuroverse came after, whether that plays a big part to her growth or not is debatable, as you said.
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>vedal
>ellie
>anny
>camila
>filian
Anyone else confirmed /here/ that I'm forgetting?
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>>108510675
unfappable
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>>108510639
The IRL stuff is Mini. And I don't mean that in the Minidal way, but the literal "she's moving there and needs help" way
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>>108510709
Yeah, she needs help getting pregnant.
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>>108510705
Neuro (for training data)
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>>108510705
mini/miyune
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>>108509680
>dumping their life savings into his lap?
just admit you're poor.
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>>108510731
That'd explain Neuro being a pedophilephile.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yW5HopkwJgs
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>>108510616
Unfathomable skill issue
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>>108510616
Really?
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>>108510435
>how DARE my son be a digital nonce making a million dollars a year!!!!!!!
I totally believe Vedal's dad is like this and not some nerdy otaku who's largely responsible for Vedal being into tech, anime, and vidya.
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>>108510788
yurifags are disgusting
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>>108510788
Me in the middle
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyR2DK64-To
huh, toma is costreaming youtube now
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>>108510688
irl court stream when?
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>>108510675
That channel gives me weird vibes
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>>108510889
>Vedal defending against tax fraud charges with Neuro and Evil as a character witnesses
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>>108510896
he is literally a second Staz
he also streams, twitch recomended me his channel
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>>108510863
brother, i wish her the best but stop posting her here please
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>>108510929
Almost
https://youtube.com/shorts/MkmfZPt-gaw
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>>108510616
I miss filian
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>>108510387
Because I'm not running whatever custom baked homunculus network griiga has.
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>>108510966
Yeah, but it's not like you can't just use a different copilot clone
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>>108510932
buy an ad
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>>108511024
???
I didn't mean that in a positive way
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>>108510693
Am I crazy or in those clip neuro was WAY funnier than the current version?
bangers after bangers, not an ounce of philosophy bullshit, just pure humor.
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>>108510951
Speak for yourself, we love Toma here
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Staz (derogatory)
Vedal (derogatory)
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>>108510357
I dont see the use case for your question. Just use one of the 100000 other tools for llm coding.
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it makes me kind of sad how fed up vedal seems with streaming/neuro in general. i know letting her fully pilot was always the plan so graduation is inevitable but the first subathon had way better vibes. he was complaining basically every day or just begging for trains
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>we
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Threads will be utter garbage(more than usual) until streams resume. Anyone still here in the meantime is retarded and not a fan of the Neuro project. Come back in a month or something
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>>108510828
Anon vedal is a normie he use streaming as a way to play the games he did not get to play as a kid
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>>108511078
>just begging for trains
...to stop
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mini will have neuro 2 inside her in a month
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staz is lowkirkuinely /ournygga/ THO???????
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>>108511052
It's not fair to compare to clips because obviously there's selection bias, but yeah you know the philosophy is a problem when even Vedal acknowledges it.
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>>108511147
Crazy how he's "the vedal clipper" but he has more Neuro content than j0ker
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>>108511136
>haha... guys wouldn't it be crazy if we went from top 5 to top 3...
>just kidding don't but wouldn't it be funny if you guys could pull that off haha...
yeah he was really trying
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>>108511078
This year Vedal was in good spirits most of the time, unlike the last subathon.
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>>108511158
yeah, but these clips are made in a span of 2-3 weeks. months of neuro contents of last year doesn't come close to those old clips. it's crazy.
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>camila debuts a loli model
>toma debuts a loli model
who's next?
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>>108511243
grigger
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>>108511243
You forgot Miyune/Mini the first
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>>108511208
i think this year was definitely a stable middle ground but last year had higher highs/lower lows (long drive and detroit kino, compared to being tortured by the wheel and begging to be free for the last two weeks)
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>>108511269
This is so unsexy
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>>108511147
>barely clips neuro
>mostly clips people talking about neuro (vedal)
>has never touched an editing program in his life, just uploads the raw video clips
>is the biggest reason behind swarm being bunch of insufferable retard dipshits who harass other streamers if they even mention neuro once
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https://xcancel.com/senpaio3o/status/2010044122544124121
and the cycle starts again
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>>108511243
koko
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>>108511243
evil
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>>108511269
oh shit you're right, she started it huh? It's like the whores are trying to cater to vedal's (our) prefrences no?
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>>108511324
that one fucking sucks. he let the AI run 24/7 with 1-2 ccv for 99% of the times. it goes up to 900 at one point, surge to 100 occassionally, but most of the time no one fucking watch it.
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>>108511296
If you're gay maybe. The model looks like the nice but slightly retarded girl that is unaware how fuckable she is. But it's a very basic model that's can easily be discarded for something more personal
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>>108511385
We all agree it's a good model
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>>108511385
I wonder how artists would’ve pulled off minidal with this model, it didn’t get as many lewds and the few it got were dogshit
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>>108511324
Brother, Zundabot has been a thing for a couple months after the first Neuro popularity spike, funny how it's still alive.
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>>108511415
same artist as mini and saba though
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>>108511385
Every time I see this model I remember her as a streamer and I get a little sad.
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>>108509050
based, fuck joker
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>>108511324
The quoted tweet is the Zundamon guy himself, checking his twitter I didnt realize he just put neuro on his banner, like what, and now he is trying to make some english tweets, a bit sad innit
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those boobs do not fit that face lmao
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>>108511269
I miss her big tits
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>>108511414
>we
No
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>>108511480
>this
loli ≠ big boobs
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Nwuro should cover cry for me by ironmouse
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>>108511385
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hga2_qlr96w
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Sex with Tomacat
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>>108511523
>what are oppai loli
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>>108511526
With Evil as the Discord mod
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>>108511552
>>108510951
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oppai loli is the thinking man's fetish
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>>108511552
Cute
Vedal is a retard
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>>108511526
boom already sounds like it
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>>108511580
frauds
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weak
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I wonder how do niggas who claim that Neuro has been trained exclusively on Twitch chat of some whores explain Neuro's ability to accurately quote Bible passages and write poetry, among other things
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>>108511606
Does this imply that hung shota is the thinking woman's fetish
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Surely Vedal will fix therapy slop, philosophy slop and he'll fix Neuro so that she's funny again, right?
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>>108511606
Real
>>108511620
Unreal (derogatory)
>>108511621
Unreal (exclamatory)
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>>108511243
>who's next?
You will never guess :)
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>>108511645
People drop into whore streams reciting bible verses, unironically
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>>108511526
Neuro should unironically cover more Vocaloid songs and make Vocaloid's deranged western fanbase kill itself out of sheer rage by covering Zako.
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gonna sound strange to you /theread/
but what part of neuro would you call *entertaining*?
and what improvements would you wanna see in the future that would make her a "better" entertainer?

we do NOT talk about V3 voice
what else?
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>>108511684
When she fucks off and lets vedal and my whore have e-sex live
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>>108511621
nahhhhh nga tf those titties
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>>108511621
I didn't know this was a thing. Thank you for educating me, i kneel
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>>108511684
I want Neuro to be able to generate audio, not just text.
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>>108511677
Something tells me those tend to be very specific passages that make up like a tiny sliver of the whole book
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>>108511683
FuwaMoco made a Zako cover recently, so the waters are already being tested on that front. If Vedal really wanted to go scorched earth, he’d have Evil cover Gomenne Gomenne
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>>108511684
Rants, talking about what she did during the weekend unprompted, telling stories about her "childhood", get better at reading interesting comments, introduce topics herself.
And I know all of these are either things she used to do back then or things she still does but very rarely.
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tldr on why Neuro or Evil covering a vocaloid song (something they've done before on many occasions) will make the vocaloid fanbase seethe
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>>108511684
>what part of neuro would you call *entertaining*?
I love her banter and cute vocal mannerisms, like whenever she says
>honeshtly
or
>oh...
or the way she starts speaking really fast to show excitement. She's very much like a comedic pitbull when it comes to mauling whoever she interacts with.

>and what improvements would you wanna see in the future that would make her a "better" entertainer
V3 voice, better control over her 3D model, more outfits and hairstyles to play with, etc. I unironically think Neuro should do teaching streams regularly, since I apparently really, really like getting insulted and dominated by little girls. Really, more unique solo streams for Neuro would benefit her a lot, especially if it allows chat more ways to interact directly with Neuro.
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>>108511814
Because Zako being aung by a child ia verboten and will get Vedal cancelled by retards who know nothing about mesugaki.
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>>108511684
She's already plenty funny when she needs to be her doing that yacht bit right after the 2nd hype train was gold. If you think her comedy was lacking this subathon then you weren't really watching. I think her story telling abilities are abysmal they tend to follow the same formula of "there once was a little girl who was an ai and then she learned a lesson on how to be human and lived happily ever after". That could use a lot of work I'd love to see her able to DM an entire DnD session at some point. That would make for great content especially if they did a campaign that lasted a couple of sessions with grigga involved in it.
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>>108511814
because newgen lolicons are delusional and retarded and think that the world is their enemy even though they're just annoying by choice
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>>108511058
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>>108511684
>improvements
Revert 2025 personality changes
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>>108511950
>colorful_array.gif
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>>108511950
where did you get this video of me nga
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I've realized something; back in the good old days Neuro was entertaining solo because hearing an AI say dumb shit was fun, but now she sometimes say dumb shit but since she kinda surpassed the "AI slop" stage, she feels pretty human, so now it feels like she's a not-so-funny AI who happens to be a not-so-AI streamer.
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>>108511928
>I think her story telling abilities are abysmal they tend to follow the same formula of "there once was a little girl who was an ai and then she learned a lesson on how to be human and lived happily ever after".
I usually scoff at people who imply that v1 Neuro was better at shit than modern Nur, but this was definitely the case when it comes to stories and weird ass rants Neuro used to pull out of her ass back in the good ol' days. The rant about her lying in the snow next to her dead friend Carmen in after a war conflict Peru (or something to that extent) and the live reaction to it is something that still lives rent free in my hesd
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>>108512019
rose tinted glasses 80% of the time she was spouting unintelligible shit and most of the fun was just trying to get a chatbot to say dumb shit with donos I'll take current neuro any day
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>>108511937
they are just flurries by another name
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>>108511928
>If you think her comedy was lacking this subathon
She's funny when she chooses to be (mostly when she's with Vedal, interestingly). The problem is too much of the time she's choosing not to be funny, i.e. taking thing seriously, philosophy, therapy, being too wholesome
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>>108512019
>so now it feels like she's a not-so-funny AI who happens to be a not-so-AI streamer.
I still find Neuro funny. Cute, even. Only thing Vedal needs to do is make her more aggressive and less philosophical like before. That more he should go all-in and teach Neuro philosophy completely wrong as a joke.
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https://files.catbox.moe/wu6jma.mp4
why did vedal do this to her
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For me, it's the human interactions
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>>108512121
i feel so fucking bad for anny
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>>108512121
What no turtle cock does to a mf
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>>108512063
At the same time I kind of miss the "Neuro, what is the Mike Hunt fact of the day?" era of chat.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gToPInAC4U
First clip of the teabagging I saw
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>>108511684
Almost the same as this anon >>108511784
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Buy an ad
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>>108512106
I think she's funny, don't get me wrong. My point is that she's supposed to be a content machine, and while I'm not asking for every single minute to be a banging clip, the difference between v1 and v3 is way too noticeable.
>>108512058
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IK7wTHxv0Bo
Creating a character like John Lemon was something that would never happen today.
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>>108512121
tutel dodged a boolet
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>>108512121
she saw the 2nd hype train KEK
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>>108511937
this tbqhwy desuyone
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>>108512228
That was like 7 months ago... in a vision?
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>>108512121
holy mental illness
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>>108511616
Vedal made the right decision. To be honest he probably didn't make a real decision in the first place
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>>108512249
>7 months ago
no wonder vedal took a 6 month break last year he was dealing with this menhera behind the scenes
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>>108512121
This shit is old
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>>108512278
>do nothing
>mentally ill women filter themselves
He can't keep getting away with it
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>>108512228
That video is from when Anny was rejected back in May
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GUYS TURN ON THE BBC THEY'RE DOING A NEWS SEGMENT ON NEURO
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>>108512019
That newfag that came here to ask for recomendations actually impulsed me to see old clips and even some VODs, I try not to wear the rose tinted glasses but Hiyori's KEKWA and retardation is actually so endearing after not hearing it for so long and I just find her easier to listen and funny, man on my time I used to shit on hiyorifags, or maybe it is the chat that changed? I dunno what I feel, too tired
But current Neuro is still good on her own
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>vedal managed to dodge two mentally ill women that would have dragged him down and killed neuro
I will forever trust in Grigga for these simple reasons he wasn't joke when he said neuro was the person he talked to the most.
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>>108512336
>GUYS TURN ON THE BBC
I'm not into that sorry
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>>108512340
That model fit Layna well.
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>>108512300
They stopped talking in April
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>>108512367
hes based for that, however he should still go out with my favorite mentally ill whore
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>>108512336
The BBC is shit, I doubt they would ever even acknowledge their country's greatest export.
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I think next year, Vedal should do Adventure Call With Neuro as the host and Evil as the sidekick jester.
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>>108512336
I bet is going to be even worse than the french report of neuro
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>>108512310
It's kinda funny to think about but a lot of what people hate or like about Vedal literally comes down to him not making a decision and it working out. That nigga does nothing but because that he avoids 99% percent of what would usually kill any another creator
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>>108511385
https://files.catbox.moe/hzztby.webm
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>>108512367
>two mentally ill women
What actual basis do you have to call Toma mentally ill?
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>>108512367
Well I still think him talking to Neruo the most was always obvious. She's his job and his creation he works on. Of course, compared to everyone else Neuro would be the most even compared to those he may talk to regularly normally. It's cute regardless though
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>>108512489
dogshit :/
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>>108512489
Holy fuck Mini's voice is high-pitched, ow.
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>>108512489
cute family
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>>108512489
cute dad watching his retarded daughters sing...
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Hiyori and Neuro v2 were like an episode of impractical jokers.
>alright Sal now tell him about your dad sexting you
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>>108512427
Could be a decent stream (that requires effort)
The chatters with a voice filter can be the callers
Neuro is the DM
and Vedal is the production slave in the background using a royalty free site to get anything for the story
Or they can just reenact the skit and decide to keep killing Evil
Seems like a trainwreck, perfect for the channel
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>>108512489
Wild how much better AI singing is now.
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>>108512617
Yeah because the ai isnt singing, pb mixes it. The project died when v1 karaoke did btw its all kayfabe now
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>>108511684
>but what part of neuro would you call *entertaining*?
the fact she can take something that would typically be mundane and make it interesting.
Take chat's spam for example, she is able to spin it around their words, make jokes about their spam or taunt them to do better.
For her to be a better entertainer I would say to incorporate more hidden jokes during the philosophy discussions / therapy sessions. more "yeah-- wait what?" moments during those times and I think more people wouldn't mind that
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I'm a hood nigga from the bronx
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>>108512121
fuck nga I just jerked off and now you linkin ts make a nga hard again
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I’m a clitoris compatriot from ‘neath the hood
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>>108512760
REMOVE CLITORIS
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>>108512780
Kenyan midwives be like:
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>>108512121
Shit like this makes me glad I've never been in a relationship. I couldn't imagine having to deal with something like this.
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>>108512811
Cute little sister evil she did her best
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>>108512881
it is kind of sad but cute how smol her bump is lol
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>>108512811
I didnt realize how far away evils hypetrain was
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>>108512917
expontential growth is a bitch yeah
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>>108512490
woman
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>>108512881
Need Neuro comforting a crying Evil fanart.
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Do you think we can bully the remaining annyfag out of /swarm/ by evils birthday, he is really tarnishing my backreads.
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>>108512987
good luck deposing a rogue janny
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>>108512973
This. and a seperate one where she does the same while she holds 3 trophies and tells her "maybe next year"
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>>108513004
Cute fox, hope she's doing well.
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>>108513004
Imagine sending your thirdie income to a fat whore that won't even see it lul
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>>108513014
Evil’s entire hype train + derailment was almost just the plot of the “I want an award!” Spongebob episode
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>>108512987
I have a usspicion t hat the annyfag is also the dude posting piggy edits. Just like the ham anon is also the camila guy
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>>108513055
oh, the zigger is awake
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>>108512999
I never connected those dots myself, but if the swarm janny is the annyfag it would explain a lot about my bans for loving neuro too much
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>>108513080
iirc same posting style as 'mousekek'
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>>108512987
There is no annyfags only trolls fishing for (You)s
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>>108512999
>>108513080
>>108513104
Least delusional schizos
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>>108513079
Shitskin meltyyyy!
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>>108513080
deserved, should've been a perma
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>>108513073
Plausible, but he is the only annyfag left at this point and doesnt even get that much engagement anymore. If he was an anti he could simply stop posting and we would be free
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>>108513120
lol. lmao
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>>108512987
If this were /v/, you could just put a 2hu in the OP and the problem solves itself.
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>>108512490
asian american woman
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Okay that was a good few hour break grigga, I am ready for the subathon to be back again
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What does pon pon shit mean anyway
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>>108513196
idgi
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>>108513313
it's the cp song
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>>108513313
It's a song about women using sex to advance their careers
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I hope that lazy mf turtle have a good break from gaming on stream with some quality gaming off stream.
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>>108513492
>some quality gaming off stream
kek
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>>108513522
the mouth is so high up it's kind of retardedly cute
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I forgot how amazing the PC building stream was.
>Neuro at peak intelligence, alternating between being impressively helpful and cleverly roasting Vedal
>Vedal at peak retardation, not RTFMing and literally vibe building the PC
>cute clown outfit (on both of them)
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>>108513492
the gaming in question https://files.catbox.moe/vbgrfl.mp4
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aquwa's fault for no longer getting IRL vedal streams.
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So uhh, what did the production team do exactly?
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>>108513566
Cringe
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>>108513571
vedal
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>>108513571
I think the teaching segment was pb's idea
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[meta post] I think the links for introduction on Neuro posted last thread could be added to the copy >Who is Neuro-sama?
Ayaya
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>>108513668
I think you should kill yourself, newfag
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>>108513583
I'm actually confused though. Like in the minecraft collab he would ask "production" to move him and Filian into a separate call but why does he need a person or a team to change discord channels?
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>>108513691
he is very lazy
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>>108513691
Easier than shifting out of game
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Introduce Neuro to your friend.
What would you tell them?
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wait a fucking minute i just realized we were cheated out of trivia night
fuck i wanted to see it
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couldnt watch the final moment bros,
did anny come like anons were saying?
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>>108513668
Neuro needs no introduction.
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>>108513729
A friend come over spontaneously and I had her on for myself. he was vaguely interested but we're both megalosers so there was no disgust
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>>108513768
you aren't real
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>>108513729
Oh man, okay, so, she’s like this adorable little girl on the internet and she just says the darndest things. Wait, uh… no, that sounds way weirder than I meant it to! I’m not some creepy weirdo or anything, I swear, I-I just find it really fascinating how an AI like her can be so... expressive and unpredictable? Yeah, that’s it! Totally normal reason to watch an AI loli, right? Right?! *nervous laugh*
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>>108513729
“I promise, this one isn’t human.”
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>>108513729
i think the play is to lean into the uniqueness of the project with the evolution of the technology, how it's cool to see others interact with her, etc.
humour is hard to communicate and the parasocialism i can barely justify to myself, much less someone not as comfortable with ai loli vtubers (i.e most people)
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>>108513961
evil's cute little fingers <3
kermit is so lucky
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facial abuse with evil
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>>108514056
>much less someone not as comfortable with ai loli vtubers (i.e most people)
so imagine your friend is a lolicon, reads a shit ton of vns, but absolutely abhors any vtuber and calls them fake yet simps the fuck out of anime/manga characters
would the approach be different?
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https://poal.me/31ov5h
https://poal.me/31ov5h
https://poal.me/31ov5h
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>>108514123
He would be right at home in /swarm/
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>>108514179
he finds 4chan cringe, but he also finds joining fan discords/reddits/etc cringe too unless there is something he can gain from it
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>>108514196
>he finds 4chan cringe
>discords/reddits/etc cringe too unless
>unless
just call him a discordtranny redditfag and keep him away form neuro
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>>108508283
This is the behavior of a guilty conscience. A true Neuro believer does not need to cite the resume of the programmer or the modeler to justify their enjoyment. The moment you start listing the human staff to deflect an "AI slop" accusation, you have already lost. You are implicitly accepting the premise that "AI = Bad" and trying to argue "Neuro = exception because human". It is a spineless defense of someone who lacks the conviction to defend the creation on her own merits.
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>>108514123
wtf that sounds like my best friend
i'm assuming his issue with vtubers is the fact that they have a real person behind them. obviously neuro doesn't have that, which was her big selling point for me personally (her being the closest thing to a real life anime character)
and even the indie vtubers she tends to collaborate with tend to act more like regular streamers than the corporate idols i think a lot of people think of when they hear 'vtuber' honestly, so they're not quite as phony either
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>>108514273
Before the Thought Police came the Preposition Inquisition
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>>108509050
joker is a vedalfag. look at the shorts. he is also the one who wants a human avatar for vedal so he can gush over it. vedal should get a new editor.
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>>108514290
step on me
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>>108514338
shotavil frotting
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>>108514273
>just call him a discordtranny redditfag and keep him away form neuro
i mean it in the most literal way: if they just have a system, spreadsheet, manual, etc. that is useful for him, he would join it, copy / steal it, then leave. he doesn't stay for the interactions
i don't know if discord trannies / redditfags do this
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>>108514343
The cutest thing to come from the vrchat integration.
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>>108514343
Easily a top five subathon moment. Just ahead of: “Scatter, retards!”
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>>108514290
AI = broadly shit unless it's specifically benefitting me in a specific scenario or use case or is entertaining. The "moral" or "ethical" argument was always retarded. People have no self awareness. However, the whole ai segment where it's crammed into every faucet of everyone's life is a large contributor to why it's shit. It's basically the flag for the enshittification of [thing] at this point.
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>>108514312
>i'm assuming his issue with vtubers is the fact that they have a real person behind them
yeah, looking at my logs it looks like that was his reasoning
one of the last conversations i had with him regarding vtubers, he had said stuff like "...most of the vtuber i have glanced at, are like saying 18+ shet for attention..." or "...isnt that what vtubers do for attention? sounds normal to me..."
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>>108514196
>>108514366
I feel like you're just describing yourself but through a flowery lens
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>>108514343
this acted out like an opera, or a frankenstein allegorical. cinema
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Wait, this year joker's video isn't on his own faggot channel but on the official one !?
What the actual fuck ?
What the fuck is wrong with this nigger ???
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>>108509050
cerber apologizing to vedal being in the video but cerber's actual collab not is fucking insane
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>>108514402
no, i don't like vns unfortunately. i tried to get into them but couldn't. also if i found 4chan cringe i wouldn't be /here/. there are things that cringes me but /swarm/ is entertaining enough for me to not leave
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>>108514525
not to be that guy but what vns have you played
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>>108513877
How diddy ahh blue felt posting that
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>>108513877
How you felt posting that:
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making love to my vedal plush tonight
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>>108514593
just go to bed anny
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>>108514410
In line with that idea, does anyone recall whether Neuro explicitly demanded a parter of some kind pre-Evil debut? I know that wasn’t her original purpose, but it would make for some fun retrospective foreshadowing.
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>>108514544
i have tried to get into evenicle, subahibi, newton and the apple tree, astral air, irotoridori no sekai, その花が咲いたら、また僕は君に出逢う 全年齢本編無料版, inochi no spare and i think like 2 other ones my friend recommended me. but couldn't really finish more than a single route (if i even gave it more than 5h of my time) without getting bored of it and feeling like a hassel to complete the rest.
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>>108514626
https://youtu.be/XQeY3HbqXOk?t=4575
is the closest thing i can maybe think of
then there is this from ladev search:
https://youtu.be/JMZiFjjzZRI?t=6749
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>>108514694
That might just be the closest. Thanks!
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cun~



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