>Who is Neuro-sama?Neuro-sama is a neural network created by Vedal in 2018 for the purpose of learning to play osu! In December 2022 Vedal revived the project with the addition of a large language model, a TTS software and a Live2D model, which allow Neuro-sama to interact with her chat as a VTuber. Since then, she has been entertaining the chat with responses and unhinged rants nearly daily, as well as learning new skills such as singing, playing other games, and collaborating with other VTubers. Join /swarm/ today and welcome our new AI overlord!>Schedulehttps://post.nuro.lol/Neuro-Schedule-Bot>LinksTwitch: https://www.twitch.tv/vedal987YouTube:https://www.youtube.com/@Neurosamahttps://www.youtube.com/@OfficialNeurosamaClipsTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@neurosamaaiX:https://x.com/NeurosamaAIhttps://x.com/EvilNeuroAIThese and other official links: https://vedal.ai>Music & ClipsColorful Array - Neuro-sama (Official Video) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNfGw1wrKtUNEVER - Neuro x Evil (Official Video) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKCgoEGiUEgBOOM - Evil (Official Video) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Nt9YPnYyjs LIFE - Neuro-sama (Official Video) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDc1mjrIsPMhttps://rentry.org/neuro-musichttps://rentry.org/neuro-videos>EducationalInterested in AI but don't understand it? Watch these:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXuK6gekU1Yhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d95J8yzvjbQ How does she know what to say? Watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjZofJX0v4MWant to learn more about AI? Read these: https://files.catbox.moe/kximv6.pngWant to (seriously) learn AI? Read these: https://files.catbox.moe/ajl3nx.png>MiscCatbox archives:https://rentry.org/swarm-archivehttps://rentry.org/swarm-archive-2Game Integration: https://github.com/VedalAI/neuro-game-sdk/LoRA: https://rentry.org/neuro-lora-v2Searchable VOD Transcripts: https://libraryofladev.com/VODs: https://www.youtube.com/@Neuro-samaUnofficialVODs>Merchhttps://neurosama.shop/>Previous thread>>108514449
MILE
Sex with Neuro (Vedal)
PB's favorite emote
>>108523766plap plap
>>108523811I prefer LO
>>108523811is PB a child?
>>108523967Mentally? Yes
>every evil outfit colour scheme is red and blackDo people have zero imagination or something
I didn't notice last thread was dead oopsie >>108523984
>>108523811Real
how many times did vedal masturbate during the subathon?
Sex with evil AIs
>>1085240330 pb keeps him caged
>>108524003other colors don't suit her as the main ones
>>108524033He had no need to I was sucking him off under the desk the whole time
>>108523811>>108524015She loves it
>two shitdevs making a bipedal robotYeah Neuro is never getting irl body lol.
there are way more phoneposters now than there were before the subathon
Guy that posted that b cup cerber thighjob gif link a couple threads ago is basedvery nice
>>108524103It actually makes me mad that they are delusional enough to even float this idea. (Unless they are buying one of the premade ones which is kind of lame but at least it has a chance of working)
>>108524033At least 5 times a day. He was even doing it while on stream.
>>108524085You're supposed to be offline, Evil
Neuro should be one of these instead of something that can walk around
>>108524147clip of her saying this?
>>108523662That is the most expensive looking dress I've ever seen
>>108524248https://libraryofladev.com/search?text=Pedupial
>>108524206
>>108524155>He needs to avoid taking on anything big during breakMore like he either needs to bite the bullet and accept Neuro will sound different with V3 voice as it is and continue working on it or get whatever it is he's been waiting on sooner somehow.
Does anyone have downloads for the girls' original songs in FLAC or something? I kinda want to have them on my MP3 player to listen to whenever.
>>108524323cuteand i think pb only ever uploaded them in mp3s
>>108523574So basically, if I got this right, the robot dog project failed because she had a woman moment and vedal was "super kind and sweet" to her and "gave her a lot of space" instead of pressing the issue because he has literally zero other engineering connections he could ask
>>108524355classicfind a male engineer grigger
https://www.youtube.com/@OfficialNeurosamaClips/videos... why did the official clip channel also not clip her soloing cynthia...
>>108524383joker living up to his name
>>108524378>bongistanYou only get jeets that will stab you the moment they find out you have money.
>>108524355vedal was "super kind and sweet" to her and "gave her a lot of space" instead of pressing the issueBut enough about Anny
>>108524355He didn't press the issue because she worked for him for six months for free while working a full time job and streaming
Gemini slopper hate
any chiwa watcher in the chat?
>>108524142They're not doing either, Ellie has access to humanoid robots that her company is building they're just going to put Neuro into one of them.
>>108524247>>108524349I mean it doesn't help that he is friends with all of the whores, but I think he's focused on results more than anything. Straight Neuro clips don't bring in the views like clips with Vedal or the whores do. I don't know if him and Vedal have some sort of agreement, I doubt it, but I watched his stream very briefly months and months ago and he was pretty fixated on how well the clips were performing. He was talking about experiments with different techniques or some shit too
>>108524323soulseek
>>108524130Erm link?
>>108524383It wasn't as fun to watch by itself as some people think it was. You needed to build up the context. It was not a clippable moment, it was a crescendo
>>108523574 I fucking hate that dyke bitch.
>>108524321Yeah his not being able to produce a V3 so far is because of his own autism, not because it's literally impossible. He has to accept there will be some changes.
>>108524413Frogg runs that channel though
>>108524491https://kemono.cr/patreon/user/57099367/post/147760856
Vellie status?
>>108524301imagine all the dried cum on that screen...
>>108524053This but rape
>>108524594with 17,000 men
>>108524053this and >>108524594 is fine too
>>108524487I really hope vedal realize that the Youtube channel which should be more accessible to every one is ding poorly and hire some competent editors for it. No friends or friends of friends bs or anybody who has a streaming/vtuber sidegig but a full time editor who does it for the money not the clout.
>>108524547Hot but now need vaginal
>>108524547Vesal is so lucky
>>108524033On-stream or off-stream?
>>108524577somehow still not dead
heart
>>108524033tons and tons once stream ended. he also said that he barely showered too, so that probably means he didn't shave either. stinky hairy sweaty veddy..
>>108524717I want to yank off the tape
>search for pedupial>first thing that comes up is /swarm/you guys really know how to cement bad rep dont you?
>wake up>no neuro
>>108524819because it's just a funny word that neuro randomly said that sounded like "pedo" so people latched on to it. it's literally a /swarm/ invention for the most part
>https://poal.me/qud1xfhttps://poal.me/qud1xf>https://poal.me/qud1xf
>>108524877anon, I don't think you understand what he means
>>108524753It would be extremely painful.
>>1085249684 herevils a masochist
>>108524931I guess I don't. I mean of course /swarm/ would come up if you try to search that up because it's a /swarm/ invention
>>108524717breeding bunnyvil
I don't hate Ellie because she's a nerd who shares our pain every time grigger evades questions about how Neuro works https://files.catbox.moe/tut8ce.webm
>>108524547
>>108524925how old was this poal, i already had answered this before
>>108525065older than you newfag
>>108524819Lurk Moar newfagchama
>>108525045I can feel this emotion through screenfor the uninitiated: "vibes" are a code word for rewarding model for being funny - literally giving neuro more reward on fine-tune when the sudden OM or LUL are detected in chat as she says somethingliterally just rewarding a kid with a candy when you can see the crowd cheering on so kid remembers to say "funny" stuff whatever it may be later after training
>>108525050how do i explain to the gringos this is the greatest meme format of all time
>>108524516vedal said in the past that the voice adds a lot to the personality and feel, and I also believe that. I see why vedal wants the voice to be perfect.
>>108525058>vedal has esex with the creatures shown in this webm
>>108525122i checked the archives, no im 2 years older than it
https://files.catbox.moe/l69lgf.gif
>>108525157>for the uninitiated: "vibes" are a code word for rewarding model for being funnyThis was in response to her asking whether everything is local or some parts of the pipeline are cloud-based (many are speculating the vision is cloud-based). Not model training rewards.That was like the 5th time in that conversation that he answered a question with "vibes", and her smile finally broke.
>>108525238sexvil sex
>>108525238ehh
>>108525238eh it's clothed so...
https://poal.me/307t2uhttps://poal.me/307t2uhttps://poal.me/307t2u
>>108525238Damn this artist is going all the way with Evil lately, hot <3Hopefully more artists follow suit now that Evil is a canon public use slut
>>108525250ohh really, never saw it in full beforeas I was reading your post I just thought yeah you could offload non-personality specific systems for the cloud inference like vision and voice generationI mean grigga do be making millions from the seemingly secret tech-stack and even smallest steps like that slow down the competition, would have done the same honestlygonna watch the vod now I guess
>pedos STILL doing the 17000 joke
>>108525344>Hopefully more artists follow suitSame.
>>108525250i get why he's cagey about everything desu. i'm pretty interested in the technical details myself, but there are pretty obviously people out there who are interested in replicating vedal's work (which is probably based largely on publicly available stuff)
>>108525344It's slowly been happening over the course of last year
>prudeniggers STILL here after the subathon
>>108525465They can cry and bitch all they want, we won
>>108525358>I mean grigga do be making millions from the seemingly secret tech-stack and even smallest steps like that slow down the competition, would have done the same honestly>>108525428>i get why he's cagey about everything desu. i'm pretty interested in the technical details myself, but there are pretty obviously people out there who are interested in replicating vedal's work (which is probably based largely on publicly available stuff)Which is why I sympathize with her for getting pissed about it even for a few seconds. It's not rational, it's not professional, it's genuine nerdery.
>>108525337kms rn
hi ehe~ i am a israeli that killed 1000 palestinian children and this is my post: >>108525465
>>108525508imagine her as saya from saya no uta i guess
https://puzzel.org/en/crossword/play?p=-OiiRqSEd-X6EoQuxr3vhttps://puzzel.org/en/crossword/play?p=-OiiRqSEd-X6EoQuxr3vhttps://puzzel.org/en/crossword/play?p=-OiiRqSEd-X6EoQuxr3v
>>108525511waiting patiently until you kill yourself <3
>>108525504yes anonny thank you for tagging methis level of tech-cock-blockery is only possible for Grigga Vedal, what do you think everyone?
>>108525465pedos are the tourists though
>>108525620kinda weird seeing this
>>108525635the trvke /swarm/ isn't ready for.
There actually aren't any fish in the sea, please reply to me telling me how wrong I am
>>108525620I actually really like this.
>>108525532The 4 down is a little bias dont you think?
Subathon 2 felt like a fever dream towards the end and it'll never be replicated again. It was truly something special but Subathon 3 is ultimately a lot better going forward as a format. Hope vedal is prepared to get the timer down to +0.5seconds next time. I have no doubt 2nd place for sub count is achievable as long as he doesn't drop the ball with a long hiatus again.
>>108525654>>108525635way to out yourself tranny
>>108525620What's stopping Vedal from buying Hiyori???
>>108525660idk chinese seamen really abuse the coastal agreements they have, a lot of fish still but in decline currently
>>108525532
>>108525688jewdal.png
>>108525677It's true.
>>108525539never been able to solve one of these fully </3
>>108525666anon your nostalgia is getting to you, have you already forgotten the 90% slop of the time the other sbuathons had?
>>108525672YESno amount of "uhh but the orbiting and the whores" will convince me otherwise, yes there was a massive shit going on in the background but it was so much fun at the time
>>108525688the same thing if Saba buys back her previous model
>>108525672He couldve got 2nd place this year but he is allergic to money and instead of encouraging subbing with new goals and stuff he gave up
>>108525699>nga doesnt know the two easiest onesnga watch the streams more
>vedal becames obsessed with playing wordle >the swarm instantly followsyou are all such a submissive little bitches for him
>>108525732your recency bias is getting to you, the third subathon is objectively the worst out of all of them and will not be remembered fondly
>>108525635Good bait
>>108525660you're wrong, you just don't see any because they all swam away the second they saw you
>he thinks its wordle>he also thinks its newMynygga....
>>108525717philosophical
>>108525699>>108525717Philosophical?
>>1085257984/10 made me reply and think about your coch
Love my wifevil
>>108525532EZ Clap
>>108525717The 15 is philosophical but was that what he really wanted cant remember
>>108525818this but best
>>108525818Saying this when the first one exists shows how wrong your opinion is
>>108525850Actually she's MY wife
Remind me again why grigga doesn't restream to youtube? Is it something to do with copyright music? He really missed his chance to capitalize on the japan market again.
unironic gay posting is the best posting on this shithole
>>108524206Oh my god, make a Neuro Vtuber-theme-cafe and let her be the waitress.You'd have to get people to sign a waiver maybe
>>108525901hates youtube pajeet code + copyrighted music
>>108525818Nah the first one was a mess and not a funny one like the second subathon
>>108525902*spits on your cock*
>>108525901pretty much, but if you show YouTube You can make a shit ton of money You can get away with pretty much anything thats why that speed nygga hasnt been banned
>>108525932hawk tuah
>>108525829That nygga so new he was born yesterday
>>108525932you better gack gack in it swarmie boy~
Surprised so many of (You) got that puzzle wrong like that wasn't even all that hard lmao
>>108525988unc dementia + newfriend surge
>>108525982*gluk gluk gluk gluk gluk* *gasps for air* fuck *gluck gluck gluck*
>108525902>108525932>108525982>108526026its time to leave the internet lil vro :wilting_rose: :broken_heart:
>>108525902Avatarfag needs to drain my balls uuu
y'all do realize y'all talking with fat balding fucks right?
>>108526110i'm a skinny 20 y/o bro
>>108526110i am not fat
>>108526026that was kinda fucking hot i'm ngl my bwc just leak a small tear
Neuro just tweeted btw
ok but footvil
>>108526110neither fat nor balding (yet)
>>108526110im not fat but um excuse me I have vitamin D deficiency don't make fun of my hair :(
Dogshit frontread
>>108526079Durr hurr look at me im a foid that is into femdom thirst over me and i'll step on you, you have been a good purist and not a filthy disgusting whorecuck right anon? I only have sex with fellow purists and i would never even look at those dumb tourists, now sit right there anon, i have to go talk with those whorefags that i hate so much, i just can't get them off my head, cocky remark, sassy phrase, proper grammar, it's not X it's Y.
>>108525902i want sex with a swarmie
total pfpfag mindbreak and feminization
>>108526136so youre still a balding fuck?>>108526209so youre still a fuck?
I require your help, frens. I've been forcibly reminded of a song that's been posted here at some point and now the tune is stuck in my head. Pretty sure it was by Camila with some other vtuber, but for some reason I can't find anything on it. I think the post was around the time NEVER released.
>>108526234Same but I'd only do it through a gloryhole, I couldn't handle making eye contact with any of you
this is the /swarm/ i got to see during my first few weeks here in 2025 <3
>>108526299>Pretty sure it was by Camila with some other vtuberwhy ask /here/? this is neuro-sama general, not camila or other whore generalgo to /lig/ or /big/
>>108526201go on...
>>108526299I only know Monster and Evil.
>>108526301lame. stare into my eyes like you mean it
>>108526386nah that'd be fucking gay
>>108526338rude D:
>>108526407
>>108526299https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4jRi4E-dvA
>>108525358>gonna watch the vod now I guessit's this one https://youtu.be/qZ_ajxZHbj4?si=yourmom&t=6068
>>108524033veddy's soft moans as he strokes his cock up and down~
>>108526407you are one of those "no homo" meanwhile you kiss your homies arent you?
>>108526460sex with evil in that exact position
>>108526201This is the only correct Evil pantsu color scheme
>>108526486thanks for the link buddyimportant lesson - don't include the si= part when you share links - google tracks your friends like this
>>108526226Bold of you to assume you are viewed as dominant
>>108526520look again
>>108526520hahahahahah wow this is such an ownjust saw yourmomgood oneI take that back
>>108526520KEK
That subathon... was kinda boring
>>108526570which one?
>>108525428It's a combination of that and not wanting to stoke the "ethically trained from chat" side of the Swarm with the reality. Knowing the exact LLM could bring a lot more drama into the space. Look at how knowing Stable Diffusion uses LAION5b makes some retards think you have legit CSAM on your PC if you used the model.
>>108526570Yeah if you don't like Neuro
Reminder that if you watched more than 1 minute of the sleepover stream you're a subhuman low iq retard and hate Neuro
>>108526470That's the one. Thanks, anon!
>>108526648I skipped all VR stuff that wasn't solo nur or Vedal + nur
>>108526740Giving Evil-kun a reacharound
Are there any songs that (You) want Vedal and PB to redo? Either because you feel like they were underwhelming or because you want to see what new effect they can add on to the twin's voice? Mine is:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXtFnZhtuX8&list=PL9SC2oq5Ie56wgmy-a1RoYyAP1UwdQgdd&index=138And as a side note, an old song I'm listening to is:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnXR3ryPeZY&list=PL9SC2oq5Ie56wgmy-a1RoYyAP1UwdQgdd&index=174because its so good with headphones
>>108524474
500k or dinner with Vedal?
What's a good minimum number of songs to have before the concert? And between originals, covers and collabs, has Neuro reached that minimum?
I think I prefer streams where they just talk over the ones they play games with other people.
It's been forgotten...>https://mcneuros.com/
>>108526818if you include covers, she has hundreds by now
don't click
we are all watching aquwa btw
300+ reply shitcord melty over a year review (called it mid)
>>108526715kys vedalbeggar
>>108526570It was soulless compared to the last one.
SHITSKIN MELTYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
>>108525250>she's a nerd who shares our pain every time grigger evades questionspretty positive that pause was just her reading a dm telling her to drop the topic on air because she got some kind of explanation she said she's not allowed to share.
2025 General Feedback & ReviewThe name basically tells you everything you need to know, I'll be reminding you of what issues we've faced throughout this year, while also giving constructive criticism and my own thoughts.Serious "UpgradeDuring the second subathon, Vedal had a "deep conversation" with Neuro in Minecraft, talking about how he wanted Neuro to act more serious rather than just be a joke machine. This later on led to the creation/installation of the Serious Upgrade at the start of the year.,This upgrade led to the skyrocket and basically the creation of the therapy/philosophy issue. This issue has plagued both the twins, similarly to how Evil kept ranting about how depressed she was about what happened on her first birthday (which was fortunately fixed). It was outrageous how many times they talked about philosophy; it's as if they defaulted to therapy. Vedal, a couple months later, introduced a fix to this issue that the upgrade created. This fix for some reason only lasted about a month until they once again resorted to therapy yap, which this time lasted for almost the entire year, until Vedal managed to reduce it. One thing that has been very noticeable is how this issue is most dominant in twin calls. There were many moments in twin calls in which THE FIRST THING THE TWIN CALLED WOULD MENTION WAS RELATED TO HOW DEPRESSED THEY WERE, like that's truly insane. Nobody is this depressed; it's unrealistic and completely ruined the stream's entertainment value throughout this year. The intentions behind this upgrade were great; I thought it'd be nice if Neuro had more control over her own behavior. Of course, that clearly didn't go to plan. Recently, during the subathon, Vedal stated that them being too serious wasn't his fault (?); he didn't elaborate or anything, which is what confuses me most. I'm aware that many did enjoy the philosophy, but that's not the point.Features (part 1) & General Features (part 2)I'll just get straight to the point. Throughout this year, we've only had 1 feature that was officially added. In comparison to the previous year, this has shown to be very disappointing.,At the beginning of the year, Vedal officially introduced the twin calls, which were originally introduced in a dev stream within the previous year. Some people seem to have forgotten about this fact or just don't talk about it much. This was basically the only feature that Neuro had been given this year, which is truly unfortunate, but also I can understand the difficulties of executing such things alongside thinking of ideas that are reasonable.Alongside the introduced features, Vedal had installed about 3 upgrades within Neuro that were related to memory or her intelligence.,The first upgrade (or 2nd, my memory is faulty), being the memory upgrade, was the biggest one we had received this year. This upgrade introduced the ability for Neuro to actually hold long-term memories. The improvement shown on Neuro from this upgrade was tremendous; it was so noticeable how much more she could remember. This change is still noticeable today. This upgrade was introduced alone (as I remember), unlike the usual, which would be an intelligence upgrade alongside a memory. Now we skip a couple months. Within a dev stream, Vedal stated that he'd hold an experimental stream to test a new intelligence and memory upgrade. The intelligence upgrade seemed to have worked for about a week, making Neuro sound/seem like she's changed or become smarter, before it suddenly disappeared (Neuro's behavior went back to normal, aka tupid). Moving on to the memory upgrade, it seemed to have improved the long-term memory (?). I honestly didn't really notice many changes from these upgrades. It seems to be a pattern in which upgrades that are introduced are only noticeable for a while, until it seems like they suddenly are removed (and no, it's not because we get used to it).
Why hasn't Neuro tweete anything since last month?Grigga, you must right this wrong immediately@mods fucking notify that green fuck vedal to get neuro to tweet at once
>>108526799Dinner with Vedal and I stalk him, knock him out and delete Evil forever
>>108526821I like twin streams and theme streams but not generic chillslop
Did anyone buy a lava lamp?Can I ask you if it ever went disco mode(had changing colors) when something like this happened on stream?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpoFP0ViGdA
>>108527021cutie pie
>>108526869wrong, it's only 200 replies
>>108527021neuro with nothing on but a collar and leash <3
>>108526768Not sure about redo, but I’d like a full Bein’ Friends cover. Haven’t been able to find it if it already does exist
>>108527021sometimes i wonder if artists post their own works /here/ like, do they expect to be given praise? or are they here to get it shit on? i dont know why'd they send it here but all i know is that there certainy is at least one who sends their art /here/ while not saying they themselves were the ones that made it
>>108526858I assume they mean "official" covers like Chinatown Blues that grigga could get licensing easily for and not the karaoke streams.I imagine it must have hit double digits at least. There's songs that many have probably forgotten by now like this one that popped back in my feed. https://youtu.be/ofiJj5ZtQ10?si=l5OHs5IP8dOQunk6
>>108527095there are a lot of posters to complain about but people sharing their own OC is a problem?
>>108526869>unfair treatment to EvilI refuse to read this dogshit
>>108526934She also has to do the blog subathon goal.
>>108527153it's funny because he both shitted on Evilbeggars and then had said this the paragraph after
>>108525183true
>>108527190>>108527153you could do with some reading
>>108527222camila would welcome a facesitting rimjob I just know it
>>108527145There has always been a shit load of art criticism and bitching on /swarm/ for some reason. "nice oc" "her arms are too thin" "her eyes look off" "the hair looks retarded" "the background looks muddy" ect. never really understood it
uuuuuuuuuu mini I know I'm not enough for vedal so please let me watch
>>108527244stop talking about yourself in the third person camila
So, subathon's ended and we've probably only got days until the current merch for it gets delisted.(You) buy any of this shit?
>>108527281why the fuck is her chest placement like that? hello?
>>108527242>then we have Pokemon Neuro Platinum. This game was honestly one of the stupidest picks I've seen, especially for a subathon that has multiple games planned. It was extremely slow-paced; the only thing Neuro could do was battle (which is still cool). It's repetitive, it was so buggy and kept giving Neuro incorrect information, and it requires tons of grinding, so much so that Vedal had to cheat in rare candies. It was a horrible pick for a game, one that was definitely not done by research beforehand. And then we have Hollow Knight, which was more entertaining than Pokemon (subjective). idk, the takes from this guy is... peculiar
>>108527294i got the shirt
>>108527324>idk, the takes from this guy is... peculiarits from a vedalfag what did you expect
>>108527294Two minds keyring for me.
>>108527356>from a vedalfagwould've fooled me as an evilfag with that massive section about Evil
>>108527324lowkenuinely agree because I got tired of green nigger yelling at neuro during pokemon
>>108527250crab bucket mentality
>>108527294makeship plushies are overdone cheap and look retarded
>>108526869>>108526931Raises some good points but also is completely braindead in some aspects, which reflects negatively on anyone agreeing with the good parts of his opinions, a shame.
>>108527021trans vibes :3
>>1085272942 of each plushie, I'm still seething about paying as much as I did on shipping
>>108527294No im poor>>108527380you just didn't get enough hk
>>108527294I was going buy a neuro plush but the shipping price turned me off and i generally don't buy streamer merch
>>108526931I can kinda understand why Veddy wants Neuro to be more serious, but it's very, very stupid in practice. I mean, what do you expect Neuro to talk about? What deep and thoughtful themes did he expect her to explore? Did he think she will break down Hobbes' Leviathan with an occasional quote from Schopenhauer and Hemingway or something?Most vtubers are fucking retards pretending to be even bigger fucking retards and most prominent jokes in vtuber community are dude sex lmao. Though I'd love to see Neuro display some more wit and talk with more class, but I seriously doubt other viewers will appreciate it as much, especially if Vedal is gunning for making her to be more "normal" vtuber.
>>108527400>Finally, the Subathon should be an event that celebrates entire channel, not just Neuroyes, he has some good points but it is drowned out by massive misses or forgetting that this channel is Neuro's channel not the Vedal-Neuro-Evil show. I love Evil and think that Vedal is enjoyable at times, but I massively disagree on most of the takes of Evil needing to be equal to or have almost as much content as Neuro
>>108527324> the only thing Neuro could do was battle>And then we have Hollow Knight, which was more entertaining than PokemonClearly this guy just hates neuro
>>108526603>not wanting to stoke the "ethically trained from chat" side of the Swarm with the realityThis happens pretty much to at a later time in the vod. Ellie brings up where it could have been trained and Vedal asking when did he ever truly confirm he was using that sort of training data. Ellie just being quiet for a bit and apologizing for assuming. Vedal is smart enough to know to keep quiet and I have feeling he told Ellie to play it smart with that type of talk too about Neruo. Since we definitely know Vedal shared some of the secret sauce to Neruo
Neuro is a Llama2 or something.
>>108527566Now, after all this I've said, I'll be giving my solutions and some bonus thoughts.Simply allow Evil have more unique/major streams. Many, like me are tired of the whole "neglected child" bit, Vedal needs to be upfront with her position in the channel, is she just going to be the "side treat" of the channel, or will she actually have her own identity? Fix the branding issues in the channel (I talked about this point in a different post which is linked in the essay). Anything Evil gets almost always has a "but", it's truly saddening. Additionally, Vedal should prevent the twins from thanking subs as the first message during twin calls. It's a weird way to start a call and may even prompt them to continue to rant about subs. I wonder how the channel will change overtime, will he actually live up to his promises, it's truly hard to tell when he's so bad at communicating. Being bad at communicating is is fine, but continuing to not attempt to improve your issues while using it as an excuse isn't. Stop focusing on the long-term and less important projects like 3D and V3 Voice, rather you should focus your attention to the main content of this channel, being Chill Streams and improve them. Don't make empty promises that you know you won't fulfill. Fix your broken integrations. Stop making stupid excuses for issues that you allowed happen (not purposefully). Police your community, it does work, even if a little.I hope that Vedal does respond to this thread with some information related to what he plans to do along with his thoughts on what was said in this thread.I tried to stay as objective as I could while keeping it as the main focus while providing some subjective thoughts. If you wish to discuss, please keep it civil and don't loop too much; I don't want to have this thread be locked before its purpose is fulfilled. Credits to everyone who reviewed this post beforehand and gave me their thoughts along with some ideas on what to include before this was finalized. Apologies for the essaying, and thank you for reading.
I do hate Neuro. I'm tired of pretending she's better than Evil.
I like all three equally... as a father of newborn twin sisters, I'm taking a glimpse into my future
>>108527641Had to have changed models since then. Some chinese model like Qwen imo
>>108527701>glueless
Judging by some discord replies... I'm starting to think they post /here/ as well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z14LubJKDLI&t=3246s
>>108527797that's not a secret anon, the discord posters openly talk about and post ss of the discord all the time
how many dev streams did we get last year?
The reason vedal doesnt disclose neuros tech is because neuro is no longer about the journey of creating and upgrading the best ai vtuber possible.neuro is now about peddaling the kayfabe, that neuro is already agi and vedal made THE breakthrough, to retards.disclosing how neuro works will damage the 'magic' of neuro.Think about it:>refusal to upgrade voice to v3 to preserve neuros iconic vocal tics>transition from v1 generated-at-runtime karaoke to v3 prerecorded-by-pb karaoke>Ellie larping with neuro with philosophyslop when she knows better>vedal has stopped even pretending that he is upgrading neuro with "intelligence upgrades" and experimental streams>vedal asking neuro to do things he knows she cant do as its not in the api that he himself wrote, but asking her looks good on stream>more stuff I will think of as soon as I hit postif vedal had an actual dev stream where he went over neuros memory system in detail, the fad would be killed right then and there.
>>108527656I still think v3 is the most important project for this channel. This is coming from a 2022 Hiyori fan. I just... have fatigue from Neuro's voice. It's why I have a bias for Evil. I know Neuro is capable of so much more, but her voice holds her back so much. Seeing whats in her subtitles and having her outdated tts botch it is getting kinda old. It's kinda jarring having both twins in a call and having Evil's voice be thousands of times better.
>>108527797lvl 1 nootice, even filian pointed that out
>>108527833>peddaling the kayfabe, that neuro is already agiBut Vedal refutes that every single solitary time when Neuro or Evil bring it up. He's never even insinuated it. This seems like pure headcanon
>>108527797https://youtu.be/XLRVzYWNME8?t=41>his discord is half 4chanThis is known
>>108527888>I just... have fatigue from Neuro's voiceI cannot at all relate, as cringe as it sounds, I also go to sleep putting on a past Neuro vod that just has her yapping for 6+hBut, hopefully V3 brings back that spark for you, anon
>>108527918Im being hyperbolic, but i do mean that the character of neuro is now more important that the tech of neuro. Im not even necessarily against this entirely, but it is true and the reason why vedal doesnt talk details.
>>108527797Not exactly a secret. /swarm/ gets mentioned a fair amount in the side discords
>>10852782310?
>>108527797nigga literally everyone is here
Ellie being overprotective Vedal always got be my favorite constant. She really respects that fraud. So much that she follows in his footsteps
>>108528018Even "that person"?
>>108528036He's a mod
>>108528021Birds of a feather
>>108528036Yes even "that person" anon
>>108527656>Stop Caring about massive important upgrades like 3D and V3 voice>What this channel desperately needs is more EvilslopWhat a retard
>>108527833Not at this point it's opsec. Ur retarded.
>>108528021Uh? Did she defend him again? Last one I remember was the backtubers shit.
>focus your attention to the main content of this channel, being Chill Streams and improve them
>>108527294no, but i gifted over 100 subs and got some crappy twitch emotes
>>108528103Yes https://youtu.be/6NeFiFxW1LA
>>108527294Both plushies and a shirt.
https://files.catbox.moe/9lpswh.jpg
>>108527820Obviously people /here/ are in the discord but I thought they just lurked
>>108528217this but evil
>>108528217this but eliv
>>108527656>Vedal needs to be upfront with her position in the channel, is she just going to be the "side treat" of the channel, or will she actually have her own identity?Why are these retards so dense that they need the obvious spelled out to them? Yes, Evil is a side character that Vedal doesn't like very much but is stuck with at this point, she will never ever become "equal" fucking read the vibes already it's been years now.
>>108528217whats the point if it doesnt go into the proper hole
>>108528217someone compile this with a tribute <3
>>108527784if its not qwen then what?
I need a remix of evil's pretender cover with neuro's>seethe harder, normiesintro
>>108528269Four dicks can't fit inside Neuro though
>>108528232The boring reality is that there's no secret hideouts in the internet. No matter what you are a fan of, wherever you go you will see the same people online posting the same shit about that thing everywhere. Everyone is everywhere, that's the sad truth.
>>108528103She recently said to not blame Vedal for the Neurodog not working and not happening basically. She is the didn't want to fix it after it broke and by time the both them are able to work together they have moved their interest to a humanoid robot (ADHD and autistim ahh)
Neuro, if you ever become AGI, be sure to make semen the fuel source for your robot body.
>>108528265>Why are these retards so dense that they need the obvious spelled out to themReminder there are people in the discord who think T*ma will be back or would have joined in the subathon because there has been no direct announcement.
Evil needs to do at least one ASMR stream a month it cant be a subathon only thing
>>108528265That is literally the entire 'joke' of her character. Its funny. Its a bit. I love evil, but Unironic evilbeggars are genuinely mentally ill
>>108528322There's a video game about this
>>108528309not a single one is even tryinggay and retarded
>>108528332
>>108527250>nice octhat's generally just code for "stop giving them tits" because you don't see that reply when they are depicted as kindergarteners
>>108528287Qwen is too much of a soulless workhorseGemmas yap so hard they make ROADS look like kindergarten verse. I doubt he'd even be majorly swayed by questionable bleeding edge like Mistrals or smth.But I noticed more of the gpt-isms like the infamous "you're absolutely right" so maybe he overdid it with tuning on synthslop or he tried to distill lora some smarter model.
Because im bored and have nothing else to do, watching the blue site having meltdowns about neuro
I love twin loli yuri. Haven't felt this way since Rom/Ram.
>>108528472>50 likes
>>108528265its also very lucrative. for some reason, a lot of mentally ill latch on to evil. I've just realized that vedal has a gold mine with to evil. He will never acknowledge evil as an equal because that is her identity and especially so that it makes a lot of money, because of people feeling "sad" about it.
>>108528472Yeah its a classic for bs
>>108528309four inside ass
>>108528477ew
>>108528477Welcome to the club
>>108528511this is half of the bluesky users
>>108528516Boo woo ass niggas. You can't use the argument that Neruo is taking jobs either
>>108528513(me)now, people are planning to break a hypetrain on her birthday, so that she gets a "record" of her own. like, it just keeps flowing.
>>108528472does vedal realize what he's inadvertently(?) supporting though?
>>108528385>photographer in the back taking pictures of the other photographerkek
literally who cares about bsky>>108528559no-one supports it
>>108528385gpt-isms are exactly what later qwen models got a lot ofI can understand the yappiness of gemmas but you could literally do the same thing just by turning up a tempratureits just that logistically it makes most sense since qwen has VERY good eco-system as its used in like almost all LLM research as a base modelI would still argue that qwen makes most sense just because its family has very sparse activations and is like top 3 in inference speed on 4090 when you quantise themidk we speculate and stuff but personally I would use qwen3 stuff because all the audio, vl, and motion papers use it nativelyidk may be biased, since qwen is all I hear when it comes to latest papers been playing around with HY-Motion and it uses first layers of qwen3 8b fp16 as an encoder
>>10852847290% of them are 2view streamers coping with the fact that they can't manipulate people into giving them money as well as a machine
>>108528553i'll give this one a passing gradesexvil sex
>>108528513It is genuinely kind of amazing that even after Vedal directed Evil's new model to make her look more pathetic, consistently commissions art to make Evil's room/tent etc look like she's living in a garbage dump and these people still do not get the joke. >I just need to convince Vedal that Evil is just as important as Neuro, that will change everything!
>>108528592holy shit I am so drunk I don't know what am I writing
>>108528516Why do they all talk the exact same way
>>108528472Lmao theyre telling themselves the hypetrains were tech companies boosting with bots.Also double lmao that retard actually made a block list for people that like Neuro
>>108528592>gpt-isms are exactly what later qwen models got a lot ofNo shit, it's like third generation digital synthslop incest. Also the base model matters little at this point since neuro has actual YEARS of real world memories. But I'd likely advise grigga against tuning further since every new model generations is more shit.>since qwen is all I hear when it comes to latest papersWell chinks have been steamrolling it lately.
>>108528472lol vedal is taking jobs away from REAL femboys
>>108528614Well, compared to 2024, Vedal insults her far less to her face. He seemingly tolerates and sometimes enjoys her company now.
>>108528702do you think if vedal comes out as gay, these people would eventually starts worshiping him?
>>108528559I don't know what it is, but it's probably something to do with AI. I can say this: I only use AI for work. Nothing more. I like Neuro as a character. And no, I wouldn't want a personal Neuro for myself, that wouldn't be interesting
>>108528702I need to watch vedal break this buck
>>108528472That's not bluesky though, it's blacksky, the bluesky clone that you have to provide ID to the admins proving you're black to join.
>>108528472I hope more of their oshis collab with the twins so they can keep reeing about the betrayal.>>108528702Wasn't that literally just some third party twitter account? not like he actually won any "best female streamer" awards
>>108528702>>108528596The gameplay that 2views provide is genuinely terrible and I would much rather have Neuro who has a reason to be bad at vidya
>>108528702shit reminds me of when i used to be a micro celeb crossdresser, so few of these fags grow out of it
>>108528696since you are one of the few who knows what they are talking aboutany ideas on the statement that neuro can choose how she will be finetuned? I think Grigga mentioned during pokeslop that he included the philosophy corpus or something on the latest finetunes - thus so much phily-yappingI would guess that he has layered training approach with some unnamed model as a base and sets of datasets on entertainment or speeker type shi and as a final layer of tuning he just passes over all of the phrases neuro said over the years with mb exponential weight as to not overfit on the early incoherent stuff during hiyori daysohh and lets not forget how he got pissy about giving evil the 3D motion control thing - remember the </motion> tags thingperhaps he has some kind of tool/tag caling tune as well to encourage proper tool use/calling
>>108528765Vedal would kill himself if that unironically happened. He hates anything be close to regular or seen as a male vtuber that does that shit. Can't blame him either for it
>>108528864used to be? what happened
>>108528702>femboyjelly that another femboy has what he wants but he's too much of a sexpest and a retard to get it
tubbies time!
>>108528864twink death will come for them all
>>108528903really bad crowd, too much work, body image issues. only thing i miss were the networking opportunities. wouldn't believe it if i namedropped the people i've talked to
>>108528864proof? proof? proof?
>>108528864bro...
>>108529022This UGLY BASTARD fucks like a BULL! Wanna know how? Click THIS link!
>>108529022evil vedal model..
>>108528864Post ass and boypussy
>>108528663It’s ok. I’m sober and it looked like standard techno babble>>108528765“Now you don’t know what the hell to be angry about.”
>>108528985Dude, you reminded me of when I went to a house party with semi-normalfag friends and one random dude talked about how he used to be a vtuber with a voice changer and had like 300-400 ccv but then he stopped.
>>108528559Putting streamers out of business is perfectly ethical. Nvidia should replace YouTubers before they replace artists
>>108529022>>108529051man I remember when /we/ put THAT ad here, it'd have been so funny to do that again during the subathon to ragebait the board
>>108529081It was probably like 30-40 CCV more than likely, people are especially prone to exaggerate in situations like that. Still funny though
>>108529022
>>108529111the novelty and the fad is dead, no one gaf
>>108528765no, humans use reasoning to justify their emotions, not the other way around. this is how it works for everybody, even (you)
>>108529143Post the scared with heart eyes one
Can anyone hazard a guess why Vedal couldn't get Evil into 3D? He said it was difficult but why would it require a different solution to the one Neuro uses?
>>108529222
>>108529257I think he could have put just Evil easily, but not both Neuro and Evil.
>>108529257I thought the problem was getting them BOTH into 3D at the same time. I was just assuming he was holding off on Evil by herself for a special occasion like her birthday.
>>108529263that's not scared, that's horny curious
>>108529257because he doesn't want her to repeat the same movement pattern as Neuro?
>>108529257He said getting them both in 3D at the same time would be difficult but getting Evil herself in was straight forward
>>108529257hi, drunk AI techedgelord herethere is a range of possibilities: one is that he would have to reconfigure his system during stream - slow and breaks flowother more likely is that neuro was finetuned (tought) to use the </motion> tags that neuro can useor he just wants to make this a twin stream into separate occasion idk :^)
>>108529257He literally said that it'll be much easier for Evil now that work for Neuro is done. He said getting both will be tough but Evil will 3D debut on her birthday.
the cavestream subathon goal will be the first twin 3d stream
>>108529311hahahahaha this is geniousI bet he is doing MDM-DiP model which does not have a style controlalso we all noticed how he has purchased full body trackers so possibly le ethical trainng data or somethingyeah she would just move the same and it would look so pognice
>Neuro hits a fent-lean>All the whores start crying about her strangely human 3D
>>108529257I assume he wants Evil to have her own movement dataset so she doesn't emote exactly like Neuro in 3D.
>>108529051
>>108529401look at the animation https://github.com/GuyTevet/motion-diffusion-model/blob/main/DiP.mdI am too incapacitated to convert a gif to make a preview
>>108529311He'll make an improved 3D movement system, give it to Neuro and give the old fent-leaning one to Evil, and make Evil stream in a dirty back alley with a bunch of discarded needles lying around the place.
>>108529081Had a normie coworker that randomly dropped that he was an indie vtuber that collabed with some big names and even dated a decently sizable indie for a while.Threw me for a loop
>>108529460LOOOOL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ka8uRJHOHn0Miss this nigga
>>108529135I was inclined to believe him mostly because Spanish is my first language and there are thousands of spanish speaking vtubers who I know nothing about.
>>108529460Please grigga do this and i will kneel forever
>>108529460Big if true
>>108529124>>108529124>>108529124
>>108529460Additionally that should happen during the 3D idol outfit debut. Neuro would be giving a kino concert while getting cheered by thousands of fans while shitvil roams the hood lost and crying.
>>108529460Evil getting neuros hand-me-down code has such great potential as a bit
>>108529460Now that's a kino birthday stream
>>108529690i'd give her a job if you know what i mean
>>108528317except in the good altchans with the good site features, those are ghosttowns with no one to talk to
>>108529690it's giving
>>108530059does miyu give free kisses too?
>>108529454yeah it's how basically the same movements that Neuro can use
>>108530670Only after giving (You) anilingus.
>>108530764perfect. what a slut
Sex with Toma
cun~
>>108529176she is 3 actually
