You can argue all you want about overlapping, but there is genuinely no good explanation for her completely and utterly ignoring and avoiding advent the entire time she was there, even off stream while in japan. The palworld incident is particularly damning, as it made it pretty obvious it was intentional and not just a series of coincidences.

Even more funny is the moment in enreco where she has this extremely awkward moment with biboo where they say hello to each other and then fuck right off.

>>108616607
What was the palworld incident?

>>108616680
Her and several other members playing together in voice chat. The moment biboo joins she immediately leaves.

>>108616680
>>108616721
I forgot to mention she leaves voice chat but doesn't stop playing or streaming.

>>108616680
Biboo was playing something else and then seen Gura was on Palworld so Biboo dropped what she was doing to hurryp up and get on Palworld and as soon as Biboo joined Gura left the discord lol. I dont know what the deal was maybe Gura viewed her as like an annoying fan or something but yeah was awkward, funny, but awkward

>>108616721
>The moment biboo joins she immediately leaves.
Not quite. Once Biboo joined, Gura started talking considerably less and barely interacted with the others before leaving the call after like 30 minutes.

>>108616282
She's a petty lazy asshole who was worried that Biboo would steal her ATMs. Thats it.

>>108616841
Damn that's even worse, that makes it look like she was trying to delay leaving to hide the reason, and makes it being just a coincidence a lot less likely

I really feel like Gura might've felt that COVER was trying to groom her replacement. Of course she probably has no personal vendetta against Biboo, but she likely is put off by the idea of COVER making a "Gura that isn't lazy"

>>108616607
Gura didn't want to go to Breaking dimensions to avoid Biboo and Fauna didn't go to avoid Kronii.

She definitely saw Biboo as competition, even if at the point Advent debuted she was already halfway checked out. But Gura often seemed like she had weird issues with a lot of HoloEN members

>>108616923
She could try being less lazy then

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>>108616282
My theory is that it's not so much that gura was intentionally overlapping anybody, but rather Gura was set to stream around events and debuts so that people would actually come back and pay attention to Hololive again, potentially bleeding into the new hires before she disappeared back into the ether.

Biboo was just a case where she streamed so much that any day Gura streamed was almost guaranteed to have Biboo also streaming that day.

The actual rrat I liked involving Gura's streams was that Mumei was so pissed at Niji after the selen thing that she specifically got Gura to stream and overlap their events for the next several months as a kind of surgical strike. (She was VERY consistent at overlapping specifically nijiEN events and big collabs for several months after the termination)

>>108617092
>But Gura often seemed like she had weird issues with a lot of HoloEN members
It started when she said "She was legally obligated to promote Mori Calliope".

At first I thought it was just a joke, but as things currently are, I think she was already upset by that point.

>>108616282
>under a rock

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>>108616282
gura ignored her and advent as a whole for 2 years. their only minor interactions were during full branch collabs like ENReco and spelling bee.

>>108616607
Didn't she have awkward moments with Shiori and Fuwamoco in enreco as well?

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>>108616607
Here's the thing, she better hope this isn't all true and intentional on her part. Biboo is a very nice little girl and all of her holosisters, including Kronii, love her. Even Kobo played with her hair the first time she met her. And that's loli on loli, and Kobo was physically friendly instead of jealous. Not only that, but staff adores her too.

At this point, anyone who dislikes Biboo needs to be publicly shamed and then executed. She is a sweet little angel baby princess.

Girls like Biboo will always win out in this scenario, and I'm glad they do. Nice people are the salt of the Earth and mean bitter people suck cocks in hell.

I wanted them to collab so bad and it pissed me off when she graduated before it. If "I" were Gura, it would've been the least I would've done. I'm sure you guys as well as most decent people would do a "Hello, nice to meet you and welcome to Hololive collab". Chances are Biboo idolized and loved sharky like we do and this hurt her little heart deeply. I wouldn't be surprised if she was crying her eyes out in a Discord call with Calli and Kiwawa asking why sharky wouldn't shark with her.

It probably still hurts Biboo to this day and she probably even watches Saba clips. Poor honey...

>>108616282
One is Dante and the other Virgil. Of course they hate each other.

>>108616923
Gura's autism kinda reminds me of Pekora.
Any time someone is considered direct competition, Usada ignores them completely.
Happened to Aqua for yrs until she announced graduation, and suddenly shes not a threat anymore.

>>108617117
Stop this brain dead fucktarded cope that Gura was streaming over Advent to "Help them"

>>108617117
If you want someone to watch a brand new TV show, you don't show brand new episodes of another TV show at the same time you're trying to premer said new show.

That just causes people to watch the new season of the old show instead of the new one.

Streaming Gura at the same time as Advent doesn't make more people watch Advent, it kneecaps them because they watch Gura.

>>108616282
>As someone who's basically lived under a rock what IS the rrat about Saba hating Advent, especially Biboo?
Cover refused to give Sana a model redesign (which caused her graduation) and than gave Ina a 3 month "health" break (stealth suspension) after she told viewers she didn't like revealing outfits. Gura already had good reason to be angry with management after what they did and than they released Advent which had another loli design. At best Biboo was meant to reduce the amount of leverage Gura would have during contract negotiations and the worst case scenario is that management was already wanting to replace Gura.

I don't think Gura was angry with Advent but she was angry enough with management that she did generally avoid the new talents in 2023. Things had settled down enough by 2024 that Gura didn't mind collabing with Justice but it's really noticeable that after 2022 she had zero trust in Hololive. She wasn't wrong and Cover is doing everything they can to make Biboo into a Gura replacement (the idol business model of idols being completely replaceable due to the brand name does not work as well in the western market).

>>108617617
NTA but Gura rarely streamed over Advent so this entire theory was dumb anyway
>but she overlapped Biboo a few times
Biboo overlaps everyone because she streams almost every day.

>>108617117
>Gura was set to stream around events and debuts so that people would actually come back and pay attention to Hololive again,
I believe in this as well but it doesn't explain why she's colder to advent than council/promise or even justice.

>>108617669
the fact that outfitschizo is one of the people pushing the gura-biboo theory should have told everyone that it's bullshit but unfortunately there are chumbuds and pebbles dumb enough to believe it

>>108617472
>Textbook anti falseflag template
Getting lazy huh phasecucks?
Biboo is not innocent shes a sexy brat now kindly fuck off

>>108617617
Anon if it was actively hurting them, Corpo would've stopped her.

>>108617712
Gura clearly had a problem with Advent of some kind, even if we don't know what. Just because outfitschizo latched onto this for the sake of his schizobabble doesn't make it any less true.

>>108617737
corpo was afraid

The idea that Gura hated her design or has problems with lolis is complete nonsense given what Saba looks like, especially at debut

>>108617663
No it makes them think of Hololive. You're thinking of regular fans who already keep up with company news. At 4million subs cover is fishing for fans who have fucked off and needed to be reminded that Hololive still exists, banking on the hope that they might be enticed by a rare gura stream.

>>108617117
>Mumei was so pissed at Niji after the selen thing that she specifically got Gura to stream and overlap their events for the next several months as a kind of surgical strike
I'm choosing to believe this one, because it's sweet, funny, petty and involves Mumei.

>>108616282
Biboo slapped Yagoo in front of Gura.

>>108617685
She came back and streamed almost constantly for the first few weeks of advent, She even did long streams which she hardly ever did.

I don't think Gura cared about Biboo but I do think she was insecure that her fans would abandon her for Advent, so she streamed in the hopes of convincing them to stay with her.

By the time Justice came along though, she no longer cared about Hololive, so she was less cold to them.

>>108617737
Corpo can’t even force Pekora and Miko act nice for a stream

>>108617117
Based Moom

>>108617756
>Gura clearly had a problem with Advent of some kind
No, Gura just didn't give a fuck at all by the end. Some chumbuds want blame Advent for her being disengaged when they had nothing to do with it, and dramafags want to see something there isn't. It's not like Gura got close to Justice either. CC nabbing a collab with her is not representative of "Justice" - we know from the way CC interacts with JP that this is just something she does.
Gura was known as the girl who ghosted even her own genmates constantly, Advent was not special in that regard.

>>108617835
And the entire major push behind showing off Advent didn't already do that?

I don't know but it sounds really stupid for an up and coming Vtuber in Hololive to be forced to compete with an actively streaming Gura.

>>108617937
You're fucking delusional. She deliberately avoided advent multiple times. And then when she was graduating she collabed with two justice members and STILL didn't collab with any advent members. In particular not collabing with fuwamoco is VERY telling, that's absolutely not something they'd let slip past them without a good reason.

Advent is the only gen that never got to interact with her directly and they don't even have stories of meeting her off stream. You're insane if you think this means absolutely nothing.

>>108617694
>I believe in this as well but it doesn't explain why she's colder to advent than council/promise or even justice.
She probably just had nothing in common and/or was intimidated because she's apparently terrified of human contact and Advent is a group of what looks like extroverts.
How many years did it take for a 1 on 1 collab with Mumei, for example? And hell, when they did collab, it was just a giant joke stream about how they never collab.
Justice though had a lot more in common with her either Gigi vibes wise or because she literally knew Raora before they joined Holo.
Gura and Bae never had a 1 on 1 stream collab. (though they did a duet cover).
Gura NEVER had a 1 on 1 stream with IRyS.

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It's been a full week of pebblekeks seething and whining , It's like the realization that the pink annoying zoomer midget will never reach Gura levels of kino finally hit them

>>108618170
And how many weeks of deleting comments has it been for Saba?

>>108617885
>I do think she was insecure that her fans would abandon her
This is the only thing I would buy for the reasons you stated. But also, like you said, she gave that up after a few weeks, either because she felt they were not a threat or she didn't care that much anymore.
>>108618043
Gura didn't meet anyone offstream in the last few years because by the end she rarely traveled to meet the girls because of reasons we know now. Did she ever meet any of Justice offstream?
I never watched Gura so tell me how she deliberately avoided Advent.
>And then when she was graduating she collabed with two justice members
I looked and I don't see those justice collabs, can you point out which ones you're talking about? Gura notoriously barely did any collabs or streams at all during her graduation rush.

>>108617472
noncanon fanart, it warms my heart that gura didn't cater to the braying of the masses

>>108618205
>le moving the goalposts
>doesn't deny he is seething
Many such cases

>>108618109
qrd on gura/bae and gura/irys rrats

>>108618226
not the OP but off memory she did collab with justice members and kronii in a game of REPO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgYK9k2KF7Q

Aside from the retard samefagging, how are there people still stupid enough to fall for the obvious Gura v Biboo bait?

Look at the table of hours streamed, Biboo was almost 1300 last year

Gura hasn't streamed that in her whole career

>Let me cook
>NO

It just boiled down to the fact that Gura went out of her way not to interact with Biboo and there being no official explanation as to why. She tried to overlap Advent's debut window which is just what the shork did whenever a new gen came out, but what was stranger than that was that she also tried to end her streams at exactly the same time as Biboo's, before it was known that the rock actually loved streaming and could go for hours. Led to a few awkward moments early on when Gura was clearly checked out but kept the stream going before she eventually gave up.
Its just weird because Gura acknowledged FuwaMoco but she never acknowledged Biboo even as she was graduating. Biboo told her fans not to read into it and not to pester Gura, but it was obvious even at the time that the shork had a woman moment and felt intimidated by the new blood that actually liked their job.

>>108618396
What's really stupid that if Gura did something solely out of of some kind of singular hatred for Biboo, why avoid the rest of Advent unless, no she just didn't care for all of them

>>108616282
bijou stole her ojisan sugar daddies away

I think a general corpo issue is some vtubers are popular but hate streaming, when a new vtuber joins who really likes streaming you start to question things.

Luckily Cover kept the balance since Justice stream way less than Advent so nobody can be mad

>>108617617
>>108617663
>>108617991
here's the thought process, retards:
>Gura has the largest tourist audience.
>people who don't really follow Hololive will tune in when she streams.
>they'll see that there's some new streamers that look sorta similar to Gura and might check them out.

it wouldn't necessarily be "competition".

>>108616282
She's just a bitch.

>>108618728
Also they would click on the person actually streaming so Gura would be fucked for 360 days of the year

Isn't it obvious?

In previous lives, Biboo raped Gura.

She just doesn't like people, kek. It took a hella lot of time for her to get used to the whole Myth and Council, so she just ignored the new gens Advent and Justice... EXCEPT CC, they had a little forced interaction during ENreco, and Gura ended up liking CC's personality, hence the reason why CC is the only chuuba from the last two gens who did a 1on1 collab with Gura. Basically an introvert bitch.

>>108619142
This

>>108618268
This is the same guy who probably watches new idubbbz and preaches about empathy elsewhere on the internet. Fucking hypocrite.

>>108618396
they're not even that similar.

>>108618226
Why are you talking as if you know? You dumbass she had a The Forest collab with CC, and some other collab with Raora. Fucking blind and straight up pulling shit out of your mouth. Just stfu

>>108617669
Slit your throat outfitschizo

>>108619395
Well yeah, she literally told her viewers she was like that, multiple times. Even in japan when she was at the height of her stardom, she'd just sorta eat by herself unless someone pulled her into the group. You never heard her invite people to do things or go out to eat, it was always someone dragging her along. She doesn't even tell her own fans much about her private life (like moving to another country lol). Unlike many of the other girls who pretend to be "shy", yet are actually outgoing and friendly to all their coworkers, Gura really doesn't even want to do that. The moment she could just do her current streaming schedule without the burden of interacting with co-workers, she jumped on it.

>>108617712
>the fact that outfitschizo is one of the people pushing the gura-biboo theory should have told everyone that it's bullshit
Gura and management getting into a series of fights which got so heated that they would go out of their way to design a replacement loli would only make sense if Gura was on really bad terms with management. There was some type of dispute that Cover wouldn't settle for years and it's unusual for Hololive to go out of their way to replace a talent. Management was so angry with Gura in her last several months they weren't even bother to remove troll comments in her VODs.

>>108617827
>The idea that Gura hated her design or has problems with lolis
I have literally never said that and if anything Gura was extremely lucky when compared to other talents like Ina and Kronii. Several EN talents got sexualized coombait designs and some of them have even stated that Gura would have been close to their ideal. Also the EN events where talents changed into a loli might have been done for humor but it's curious especially since Dooby and Nimi eventually got chibi models to collab with Saba...

I'm an illiterate subhuman monkey. Any other illiterate subhuman monkeys here? No?! Just me!?

>>108620702
Nimi had a chibi before Saba even debuted?

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https://youtu.be/mc26p5xcnw8?t=39

Hololive sucks ass, now I've got to TEAR IT DOWN (and they'll all say)
I'm too sick to tweet, so instead I'll BURN IT DOWN (and they'll all pay)
All is Ash Again, my plans all fell through (I'm still learning)
Nimi's not my friend, switch her out for Limes
I HATE BIBOOOOOO!
OVERLAPPING IS WHAT I'LL DOOOOOO!
MEMBERSHIP RENEW!
Close my eyes just like this meme.
One last thought "I will not stream".
>*BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP*

ngl but bijou gives of sinder vibes just because you are apart of the same company doesn't mean you are deserving of a collab. most of this thread is talking about how she would constantly stalk gura and being suprised she didn't want to talk to her.

>>108616282
>Be contract worker
>Think you're irreplaceable
>Don't do your job
>Get new coworkers
>They actually do their job aka your current job
>Employer is not offering to renew your contract
>Seethe at coworkers for doing their job instead of treating work like free money
>Get replaced

>>108618170
Nice try Donnie Indog.

>>108619888
Those weren't graduation collab streams though?
>And then when she was graduating she collabed with two justice members
That was what i was replying to. Are YOU blind?

>>108618461
This.

>>108619142
hot
>>108620996
Nigga are you high

>>108619142
Ok but can Biboo fill the hole?

>>108616721
>>108616680
>What was the palworld incident?

Gura was with Ame. But couldn't hear themselves think with the rat and pebble screaming in voice chat.
Gura and Ame viewers were relieved, allowing for kino content between the two.

>>108616923
Biboo's design and personality feel like a PG version of senzawa. She has the loli design, the hair side horns, and the cringy memelord humor. I think it's not just that she saw her as a replacement Cover made of her, but also that she saw her as a shameless copycat (something she really does not like)

>wear ur own skin, not mine u freaking freaks

>>108618453
This is what convinced me that she doesn't like her, there is genuinely no other explanation for why she titled that stream like that.

>>108621439
If she streamed more than once a lunar cycle they wouldn't need to replace her

>>108616282
Basically, Saba is a proven run through stacy whore and is ironic-weeb trash that regularly abandoned and betrayed her fans.
Most of her friends in Council were the same.
When she saw that Cover hired genuinely passionate girls in Advent and then funded their projects over hers because they actually worked hard instead of spend all their time on their backs in a secret foreign country like her, Gura lost her shit and became uncontrollably angry.

Riding her carousel was the most important thing to her, but she loved getting money from her fans who she looked down on and despised. Streaming at 8:00 PM (2:00 AM her real time) was too much for her, she hated traveling from her host country to Japan, and she couldn't keep up the lie anymore.
So she quit and reincarnated, while blaming Cover instead of fixing her own shit work ethic, unrepentant dishonesty, and unabashed whorish detestable personality.

>>108618360
There literally aren't any because nobody cares and they don't get (you)s like biboo does for whatever reason

>>108616282
Loli pussy

>>108617835
Wouldn't the correct strategy be to have her stream before major Advent streams and then end her stream around the time they start?

I think this is all much simpler than is generally discussed. She was on her way out of Hololive, already resented Cover, and didn't feel the need to make new professional connections with strangers. A process she despises because of her terminal shyness. Justice was slightly different because she already knew Raora, while Cece is both an expert at cracking introverts, had other members vouch for her, and happened to get paired with Gura during Enreco which took the edge off. Gura avoided Biboo because it was painfully awkward. Also Biboo can be kinda loud and exuberant and that triggered Gura's autism, same with Gigi.

>>108621847
Gura didn't have any friends in Council except for Kronii though and she's definitely not a stacy or a whore.
Her only real friend was Ame, sometimes Kiara.

Honestly, this is boring because the two don't really want to interact.

If the rivalry was active instead of built on speculation, It would've woken up the EN fanbase.

>>108618453
Oh shit I remember this one

>>108617885
>but I do think she was insecure that her fans would abandon her for Advent
Every promyth member was insecure about this.

>>108622748
What's this from?

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>>108617736
>Biboo is not innocent shes a sexy brat

>>108620702
Saba getting a loli outfit debunks your rrats about gura :)

>>108617151
fuck you Carlos.

>>108616282
I thought it had something to do with Shiori's PL hating Gura for stealing most of the popularity for EN vtuber while she was practically at the start of EN vtubing, but was struggling to hit triple digit views. It's why Shiori and Gura had awkward moments during the brief timr they shared a screen while in Hololive.

>>108617472
what even more baffles me that Gura took the Time to not only Collab once but twice with CC even tho she was fairly new to Hololive. It may be because CC is very introverted and frankly asked her directly in DM´s while Biibo was to afraid/shy to do so the whole time but still. Gura as the Senpai should have atleast lead by example and ask them but she either really never cared about it or there really was a case of hatred toward Advent for whatever reason.

>>108623279 (me)
>introverted
>i mean extroverted. Fingers were faster than the Brain.

>>108623279
Its just disappointing that we never got a resolution before Gura never left the company. Because unless they reincarnate and get a chance to collab it's just going to be a mystery as to whether Gura actually hated Advent and Biboo or if its just one big case of autism + a woman moment causing the whole thing to be one big misunderstanding.

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>>108616607
>>108617117
>>108617472
Why do people never watch the girls? Gura already collab with Advent twice and spoke to them one on one before debut. Recall by fall 2023 Gura and Ame went on a large break shortly after those two holostars got fired and barely showed up until Feb 2024 (between then Gura showing up for a collab with Advent and Promise, along with Mumei and Fauna's 3D debuts, that Holo new years event thing, some large Minecraft sport event where everyone was involved).

Then everything kicked into high gear with Gura with Holofest; the Taiwan stuff; the karaoke event thing Gura and Fuwamoco did (see pic), the Dodgers stuff, the EN Spelling Bee, One Block with Myth; Gura getting ready for her birthday; Ame telling Myth she was going before Gura's birthday; Gura knowing about Aqua leaving and trying to set up something with Unisea, Breaking Dimensions, EN Reco, the Myth anniversary show stuff and Fauna breaking the news she was going to leave early. By the time Ame made public her intention to leave and after Gura finished a part in Bae's 3D show Gura decided to withdraw until the events of 2025.

Pretty much either Gura wasn't around or there wasn't much time when she was around. That doesn't mean nothing happened..

FWMO - met irl already; Gura gave FWMO public support early on in her stream; they messaged Gura about an oldie song they heard her do; Mococo had a dream about Gura where they walked together on a sidewalk talking about the future and they both decided to take the path less traveled (before Gura announced she was leaving), ENreco

Nerissa - knows about Gura through Kiara; the two already met irl; they talked a little during ENRECO one on one

Bijou - she likes Gura; Gura has brought up Biboo or her fandom up several times in stream unprompted ; they spoke a little during ENRECO and the EN Spelling Bee where Gura called Biboo cute; they may have danced together irl during BD as they were next to each other in BD; Gura agreed with Bijou through a steam that biboo could show her and Fauna how to play Elden Ring, also Gura once defended Biboo from Mumei during family feud.

The only one for whatever reason who dodges interaction was Shiori as she has skipped every collab and event Gura was apart of and ghosted the team during ENreco.

>>108619142
>Biboo's PL was salt water
>Gura was a shark

You might be on to something

>>108623484
look at this schizo defense post. The fact you can count the collabs on one hand is proof enough when Hololive has a culture of force collabing.

>>108623240
Not that I think this is specifically the reason, but it wouldn't surprise me if some combination of reasons mentioned here is the reason why she had a chilly reception to Advent.
>Biboo
Thought Cover was hiring her potential replacement.
>Shiori
Nothing in common and awkwardness from PL comments.
>Rissa and FWMC
Bitter because their projects and covers were getting fast tracked compared to her stuff being stalled.

>>108623952
Not really. Like some other guy said above, Gura never had a 1 on 1 stream with IRyS or Bae either and they were in Hololive together back when Gura was way more active too

>>108616607
Didn't they interact during the spelling bee thing?

>>108617669
stopped reading after Sana
outfitschizo you need to step up your game, you're too easy to detect

>>108617055
Proof?

>>108622453
Have you heard about SNOT you dumb retard? Also Kronii is a stacy and a whore

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>>108618226
>I looked and I don't see those justice collabs
blind?

>>108617117
While I am torn on the advent thing, I 100% believe the Mumei asked Gura to overlap Niji.

>>108622770
iirc Biboo had a stream stream titled
> "Let Me Cook!"
(it was the cooking simulator game I think). Then Gura, as expected directly overlapped her with the Police Simulator game. The title of Gura's stream?
>"NO."
you can connect the dots from there

>>108624895
there is one on CC´s channel aswell where they played "The Forest"

>>108617669
Outfitschizo you must have a humiliation fetish at this point, this is just embarrassing

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Gura believed hololive management was trying to replace her as the loli mascot character. Being a very smart person she did nothing to defend her crown and fucked off at the first opportunity (after a year and a half of planning to fuck off).

She was right and bijou is the superior loli.

>>108621439
Gura doesn't use SNZWA anymore because that model is almost 1:1 with a character from an anime and it's no longer the wild east of vtubing where you can just be a drunk copyright theif.

>>108617211
>earnestly want to collab with your oshi
>she sees you as the New Hotness trying to steal her job and hates you
Kek
I feel like there are like 10 movies and tv shows that go like this. Like Wojak horseman hating the dog character for being a more likable, younger and upbeat actor.

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Some things never change.

>>108618360
There has to be a good one for Gura/IRyS because they're both dumbasses.
Gura did ask IRyS for help on her lolikami cover, so there's that

>>108625112
The bottom really is the trvth nuke of why this board has fallen so low, samefagging and SEAposting is now actively encouraged to make it appear like there's more traffic, despite the board being deader than ever

>>108624822
SNOT were a collab group, they weren't her friends and everyone in SNOT was closer to someone else in Hololive. Are you going to say GAGA are close friends because they have a snappy name?
Ame remains her only true friend in Hololive and it shows because she's the only person she still keeps up with.

>>108625038
tell that to filian

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>>108624895
Are you blind? I was responding directly to the other guy.
>And then when she was graduating she collabed with two justice members
That was 3 months before the graduation
Judging from the fact you actually watched those streams you're a mindbroken former chumbud so you can be safely ignored.

>>108625112
4chan desperately needs IDs and flags. Imagine how glorious it would be to out all the SEAcreatures sitting up the place, samefagging day in and day out

>>108625472
yeah imagine actually watching the streams of the girls you're talking about all day

>>108625459
shitpost filippino worked out a deal with the person who made that model, somehow.

>>108617885
I don't know about most of this but I remember Gura suddenly wanting to stream Holocure for longer than her usual time while Biboo was streaming at the same time, I believe also holocure.

>>108624963
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CFBSBV4XJI
【Cooking Simulator】LET ME COOK

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bvn2i-wGAo
【NIGHT SECURITY】NO

>>108616282
>As someone who's basically lived under a rock what IS the rrat about Saba hating Advent, especially Biboo?

It's just haters making shit up trying to make hololive fans hate each other.

Anyone got a timestamp for the Palworld stream where Biboo joined? I vaguely remember it but want to witness it for myself

>>108625491
I'm not the one making Gura vs Biboo drama threads all day because I'm detached enough from everyone involved to realize it's all bullshit
Gura didn't stream. She can't collab if she doesn't stream. It really is that simple. There are girls other than Biboo or the Advent girls that she never collabed with, but annoying faggots fighting proxy fan wars only want to focus on a select few because they have tunnel vision. Same with all the discussion about overlaps or anything else

"Hey Bijou, I don't know you, but let's collab for the sake of doing it"
This is not a normal thing to do in terms of human relationships, and your brain is just being indoctrinated to think that it is normal because you have consumed too much holoslop.

First, you need to try to break the ice through EN Minecraft server events and/or off-stream chatting. However, management spoiled everything for Gura by refusing to let its precious Advent girls to mingle with other ENs for fear of having their image downgraded (merch sales were everything for them). Advent girls also happened to be docile and listened to them at the drop of a hat since they're all post-IPO hires.

Do not ask my oshi to be phony only to appeal to a bunch of bootlickers. Just because X talents believe it's ok to indulge in such facade-like activities doesn't mean my oshi does. Gura is Gura. She will never submit to your meaningless corpodrone value.

Here's your EN Minecraft sever events organized by Advent and management https://youtu.be/sprqi7NjDa4

Gura didn't hate Advent (she watched Shiori's 3D debut), but she has her reasons for not wanting to appear as fake.

>>108617117
>reaching this hard
Stop flattering yourself it's cringe inducing. Nobody cared about you run-of-the-mill whores nijinigger. Never was and never will be.

Bro, I'm watching the Palworld stream where Biboo joined VC and Gura didn't stop talking at all. She was literally the first person to say hi and talk to her. If anything, Biboo was the one who stayed on the quiet side.You guys are fucking delusional lol
https://youtube.com/watch?v=wsKENZOuG5k&t=11116s

>>108625877
weak falseflag

>>108625877
Nta, but stopped reading at "holoslop". Liggers deserve the rope

I've noticed the only people who vehemently deny that Gura didn't want to interact with Advent is chumbuds. Everyone else seems to actually have some braincells.

>>108626008
There's a chumbud right above you bragging about Gura not interacting with Advent because of his own schizo headcanon about fakeness
The people denying that Gura didn't want to interact with Advent are the people with eyes who see past retarded shit like that

>>108626008
I'm legitimately a pebble (not falseflagging, so stfu) and I don't think Gura was purposely avoiding them. I personally just think they were all too shy to reach out to her and vice versa, especially during that era of Gura's non-existence/social awkwardness. Then the length of time that passed was too long making a potential collab even more unlikely and awkward. The only reason Gura had any collabs with Justice was due to them having more outgoing personalities. Guaranteed that CC and Raora reached out to her first

>>108626063
I'm not denying that Gura didn't want to interact with Advent. My point is her reasons for doing so were justified, that's all.

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>>108619395
>CC is the only chuuba from the last two gens who did a 1on1 collab with Gura
do none of you people know how to use youtube? jesus christ

>>108625413
They were a collab group because they used to get along very well with each other. They used to be good work friends. Stuff happens; when you stop sharing the same environment you naturally drift apart with some people; doesn't mean these people weren't your friends

>>108626157
Your point and you are wrong. Try again.

Ok here is my take on it. Gura didn't hate advent, but she was kinda scared of losing fans so she started streaming again. They never had a collab because they all are awkward, none of them was a super social butterfly like Cecilia.

>>108625621
Goddamn, why is Gura like this?

>>108625877
weak larp faggot try harder

GG just fired shots at Saba on YT

>>108617737
cover only cares about not streaming over regular debuts and 3D debuts. everything else it at their own discretion.

>>108626764
your mother said your existence is wrong, try again
>>108627394
0 argument presented by (you), try harder, or if you dislike debating, don't go and accuse someone so easily.

>>108617669
>Cover refused to give Sana a model redesign (which caused her graduation)
did it also cause to her stream once a year after she graduated? fucking retard

>>108627398
and you will surely post timestamp to prove it right?

>>108627786
why are you replying to outfitschizo?

>>108617316
>Fuwamoco

Fuwawa approached Gura and she got straight up ignored on stream.

https://www.youtube.com/live/PJtapc2_7ok?t=852s

>>108628155
https://www.youtube.com/live/PJtapc2_7ok?si=jmKvgUuRjbmAYUi2&t=2544
didn't ignore Mococo though

>>108617211
Biboo is such a nice girl, she doesn't deserve this shit from a bitter old bitch like Saba

>>108625621
lmao
never change gura

>>108622972
>Saba getting a loli outfit debunks your rrats about gura
The lolicon stuff is curious but Cover did force Gura in that direction especially with the pedobait daki. Still it was a strange coincidence that both Ame and Gura released dakis only months after Ina had that 3 month "health" break. That always felt like a result of contract negotiations especially since they later had that 2023 April Fools joke stream about transforming talents into lolis which did seem a little fishy.

>>108627786
>did it also cause to her stream once a year after she graduated?
Sana got really burned from her experience in Hololive and she really didn't want a sexualized design. That is obvious considering what her RM uses and Flare does show that having zero input on their design has been a major issue even on the JP side. Sana wanted a redesign maybe even more than Flare did.

>>108623484
Insane amounts of cope

>>108625023
>her crown
Of shit mountain

>>108625877
>management spoiled everything for Gura by refusing to let its precious Advent girls to mingle with other ENs for fear of having their image downgraded
Source?

>>108627038
Your explanation fails to cover her overlapping Bijou

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When you are on your way out of the company, there is no reason to mingle with newbies who want to leech on your name.

>>108625764
Cope

>>108626157
>>108627604
Are those points in the room with us right now?

>>108628207
So she ignored Fuwamoco I accept your concession

>>108630582
Stop souring Saba for me you fucking retards

>>108623419
Misunderstanding? What misunderstanding? There is no misunderstanding. The only thing you are misunderstanding is that she is a stuck up cunt.

>>108622189
Yes but cumbuds are scrambling to find excuses

>>108617559
That's not autism you retard it's bitchness

>>108616282
Cover tried to keep Gura in check by bringing in their own "Gura killer" to show she's not irreplaceable. Turns out she was irreplaceable and Gura did not take kindly to the attempted slight. The rest of Advent was guilty by association.

>>108630686
She does that herself.

>>108616282
Saba is an overweight white girl pretending to be a little girl. Biboo is a petite Asian who is a little girl.

>>108621439
Didn't know Gura was the only vtuber allowed to be a memelord

>>108631275
>Turns out she was irreplaceable
?

>>108631275
>>108631706
irreplaceable because not even nerissa could match the amount of hours she doesn't stream for, i get it now. we've been going after the wrong advent member this whole time

>>108616282
scared that with biboo as an option she couldnt keep her fans while streaming once every two full moons.

something that /vt/ always forgets is that gura is a woman.
anyone with sisters will know how bad that can be

>>108621439
>>108631275
well, it should've been fine, since she's not actually very similar to Gura.

>>108616607
yup