We all know of Nijiansji EN's massive recline from their golden age in 2021.Over the years they've had various fuckups and yabs, most of their own doing.Now the year is 2026, Anycolor has spent over a year viewbotting nearly their entire corpo, many of them being from Nijisanji EN due to their poor viewership.However, we can see with Anycolor's recent financial report that Nijisanji EN's revenue continues to decline to pre-Luxiem levels. Clearly the strategy of botting 3views isn't working, and their irrelevance continues to grow.What strategies would you employ to help save Nijisanji EN?
>>108664166Force Elira, Enna and Vox to graduate. Fire some token manager, apologize and rebrand to something that doesn't have the word Nijisanji.
>>108664166It's the failed IP of a stupid trust fund baby. It's unsalvageable.If you mean its talents' careers, the best it could do is not pitch a giant shit fit everytime someone wants to leave.
Vtuber viewership in the West is falling. So no matter how good the streamers are they won't save a branch.
>>108664314Smartest holobrown.
>>108664166>>108664314This is the first right move.Elira and Vox need to be gone. Anyone who isn't some retarded Nijishill can see all the problems somehow circle around them. Most of the branch are even pretty okay like Scarle, Aia, Vanta and Meloco.There are people who actually deserve to thrive. But if EN wants any reform, it has to start by removing Elira and Vox.
>>108664465The tourists and gawkers are going back to whatever they were doing, but the people who always enjoyed it for what it is are still here.
>>108664485>brings up holo out of the blue
>>108664166hire mike tomlin
>>108664586Well yeah, you aren't allowed to criticize Anycolor in anyway or the Nijifags will spin a wheel to determine whatever you are a drone of today.
vtubing has never been for the west
Haachama deflection threadPhase graduation deflection thread
>>108664166>What strategies would you employ to help save Nijisanji EN?Save it?
>>108664654>>108664752Like clockwork
Not even thirty minutes into this thread and nijiniggers have already tried deflecting twice to two other companies.
>>108664166>We all know of Nijiansji EN's massive recline from their golden age in 2021.You mean 2022?>Anycolor has spent over a year viewbotting nearly their entire corpoNo proof of this. On the other hand we know /#/ (holofag number general) has botted Nijisanji in the past, and at least in JP the botting extends to Holo-adjacent indies that annoy /#/.
>still deflecting to other corpos>complains about numberfags while regurgitating numberfag babble>"Holo-adjacent indies"sisters are reaching new levels of desperate previously unheard of
>>108664166Force all their girls to have lesbian sex
>>108665406No thanks I don't need Elira catching enna's STDs
>>108664166>Remove diseased liver>Extract healthy liver tissue from a donor>Replace diseased liver>Monitor for immune system rejection>Adapt lifestyle to prevent issues later down the line
>>108664723too bad, we have them now and they aren't going anywhere
I think they just stopped botting some of them.Look at Finana she literally bordering 2 view status right now on her "popular" study streams.
>>108664166its not bots they are all real viewers, unless you wanna get sued
>>108664505>No mention of Enna who basically helped start the entire series of eventsI wonder who could be behind this post
>>108664166To us there is zero fucking sense in keeping them around still but they symbolically are relevant for Anycolor's JP shareholders to believe that they have ambition and real capability to spread into overseas markets, which is good vibes for investment bait. Literally the branch is just an ornament on the shelf to look pretty and make the company look more prestigious. Not to mention it actually was making a lot of money a few years ago. To people who actually knew their current status we could see them as dying years ago but for investors who don't watch any streams or give a fuck about any of the drama they just check in on earnings once in a while, maybe only once a year, and are willing to give a second (or third) chance expecting maybe they Anycolor can fix whatever it is causing the earnings decline. Because Riku keeps saying that's what they're gonna do and they believe him. After enough bad years they will start to call his shit saying "dude that's what you said last year and the year before" and we are only just getting to that point now where the downward trend is locked in and Riku is obviously lying about EN's propects. And guess what, Anycolor stock is down 30% the last year.
There's honestly nothing they could do, even if they did a full kneelpology and kicked out the bully clique, it's not like there are any good female streamers left. And male vtubers are always and will always be irrelevant shit with 3view limits, Luxiem was entirely a fluke thanks to fat chinks needing a replacement for kpop because of the government banning it for a while. And they left immediately after that was lifted.Their only move is doubling down on the male vtuber boy band shit, which to their "credit" they have been doing now that they finally realized mixed gens are worthless. But it's still a bottleneck, especially with FSP growing and doing the same thing too, creating a competition (and they're also low 3views).
>>108664166The thing is their strategy of nonstop coed collabs as the main feature just doesn't actually work well for making a good gachi audience, not in the West at least. They need basically an EN Lulu, really like ten Lulus, but the problem is you can't fucking have Lulu work in an environment like what EN does now. I mean it technically is possible to a degree considering Scarle shows it can be done, but she is very much an isolated little ethot experience and I am saying what they need are more girls like Pomu only don't squander them this time. They just aren't even expanding at all lately so there are no more chances to even get more like her, it's like asking how to move the car forward after the engine seized. And even if they did find good Holo tier girls and also convince them nijiEN was not a toxic sinking ship, people would still not wanna watch them assuming they picked Niji because they hate Holo fans and just wanted to be luxiem orbiters. The presence of bitter shitters like Enna also ruins it further, even if a girl avoids the guys, unless she just barricades herself off solo a lot of the existing Niji girls are not liked by the kind of crowd they would be looking to attract outside the fujos.
I love seeing this exact same thread every other week with the exact same 3 or 4 faggots regurgitating the exact same arguments like we're on an endless time loop. And now those same faggots are gonna proceed to reply with "nijiseethe" or "something something nijisister" cause they have nothing else going on in their miserable lives.
>>108666258Let's hear your plan to fix nijiEN.
jd vance
>>108666258I haven't made a NijiEN post in years. Are you upset that people are actually posting paragraphs of discussion instead of replying to your doxx and b8 posts on other threads?
>>108664166Put out a public announcement saying:>Riku conducted an internal investigation>Discovered multiple counts of corruption, bullying, and power abuse in NijiEN branch>Fire Elira, Millie, Enna, Vox, Luca, and multiple members of NijiEN staff>Directly and publicly apologize to ex-Livers who were wronged by the company's actions, including Selen, Pomu, and Nina
>>108666258>>1086663383 minutes and we already have sisters seething at livers that left
>>108664166Why nijinegros insist on oshi-ing financial graphics ?
>>108664166Don't worry, vspo is much worse and as soon as a dramanigger reports on them and gets their account hit with strikes by vspo people will switch to them. For people who don't know, vspo is hella dead in he west since they strike anyone who clips them and ban any porn. The whole reason niji gets the reputation in the west is because they copyright struck that doxxing faggot falseeyed, so vspo's gonna end up the new nijisanji in the next year or so when they inevitably do the same thing.
>>108666488That's never going to happen because of what you just said: "vspo is hella dead in the west"The west is not gonna care about vspo copyright striking, if the west doesn't care about vspo in the first place
>>108666412That's hololive fans. Remember you fags immediately start shitting on mel, a-chan, and the other members who leave the company the second they announce graduation. Hell, you never hear a-chans new account or rica talked about because a-chan made a video shitting on covercorp management and Mel's existence makes cover look bad. Corpo worshippers are all subhumans really, anyone who does this stupid console war shit is some fag who wants riku or yagoo or sakana etc. to peg them and don't give a fuck about the streamers at all.
>>108665878"All the problems somehow circle around them"Enna and Elira are besties IRL from even before Niji. These whores are only talking because they know Elira has influence in Niji EN and shields them. Cut her off and they are nothing. Thats every bully group and clique. They just latch onto someone who leads the charge but remove that person and all that remains are bitches who get the shitters with their main shield being gone to protect them.
>>108666562TRVTHNVKE
>>108666562Rica ain't talked about cause this is a Vtuber board. She is notoriously well known for her flesh streams. Not as bad as girl C in content but its what she is mainly known for. And A-chan talked what we all suspect and know anyway.This isn't some gotcha from you.
>>108666819Is this some new LGBTQIKFCBBC addition?
>>108666562Holy murder anon.
>>108664314That would be step two.Step one would be to publicly acknowledge the fact that their handling of the Selen situation was not perfect. Admit that management made mistakes and is not blameless; admit that they could have done more with her reports of internal harassment than just acknowledge the fact that she had filed those complaints; admit that they shouldn't have waited until after she premiered the MV to arbitrarily decide that she's not allowed to use the likenesses of graduated livers without those livers' permission; admit that harassing her family while she was hospitalized due to a failed attempt brought on by workplace harassment was not the wisest possible course of action; admit that they erred by ghosting her when she asked to be given a quiet graduation like Yugo had gotten a year and a month earlier; and admit that they made a mistake by firing her when her lawyer sent them her request for a quiet graduation.And that's just the stuff leading up to her termination. Step one, part two would be apologizing for the black stream. They need to admit they fucked up by allowing it to happen at all; admit they fucked up by "encouraging" the livers to retweet the announcement for the then-upcoming stream; admit they fucked up by delaying the start of the black screen to match the start of Doki's Neopets stream; admit they fucked up by intentionally misleading Ike (and very likely also Elira and Vox) with half-truths and whole lies; admit they fucked up by forcing Elira to keep it up on her channel to this very day; admit they fucked up by suspending Elira for two months because the black screen did not destroy Doki's post-Niji career.They need to acknowledge and apologize for their malfeasance first, before any efforts to rebuild could even potentially be taken seriously. And the branch's leadership has spent the past two years proving that they would rather burn the branch to the ground and salt the earth afterwards than even consider admitting that they themselves did anything wrong.Just straight up firing Elira, Vox, Enna, and a random manager without first apologizing for what happened will be (rightfully) seen by the entire vtuber community as being as cynical and insincere as Riku's "apology" video. If they are to be fired, they need to be fired for their own actions, not for management's actions.....oh, and all of that is just the start of what they'd need to do to regain the western fans' trust and support.
>>108666562>deflects to holo AGAINpeople talk about Ray and other ex holos all the time, outside of mikeneko they make generals and discuss them here and on other holo forums
>ITT a bunch of seething fagoons/Holodrones cry about their smear campaign failing to do anything to stop Nijisanji. So instead, they put NijiEN under a magnifying glass, cry about bots then clap about revenue being down despite Hololive having merged HoloEN into their reports for years lmao
>>108666965Rei not ray fuck sake
>>108667000This is a thread discussing NijiEN, can you stop bringing up hololive because you're uncomfortable with the thread content?
>>108666965Anon just violated the Holobrony Code of Conduct Article 4, Section 81: You must never speak positively of anyone who left Hololive.
>>108666751Enna is actually like a psycho. Even she recognizes it and started seeing a therapist. If I was to guess, the main reason EN had so many problems traces back to her.
Do nijisisters actually believe nijien is doing well? Are they coping or are they that fucking retarded
>>108667001Reiko a cute though
>>108667077NijiEN doesn't have a fanbase full of psychos that view their talents as numbers on a chart
>>108667050schizos aren't representative of a fanbase, but I can check /NijiEN/ to see the immediate hate they spew to any ex-nijis
>>108667077Actual nijisisters I've examined in the wild do not believe that their branch is doing well. They don't think it is doing TERRIBLY, but they acknowledge that they lost the messaging war and recognize that NijiEN's glory days are probably behind it. For this they blame Dokibird and the west as a whole, accepting the Japanese narrative that westerners are too emotional and easily deceived.Source: I like to spy on them in my free time.
>>108667126Anon just violated the Holobrony Code of Conduct: Article 4, Section 81a: You must not make any exception to this rule. Punishment will be determined by the /#/ Council of Unicorn Brahmins
>>108667142One of the reasons Selen was so stressed out and melted down was because numbers were in absolute freefall already. Before she left, the Nijimales had already lost a good 80% of their viewers from the year before, amd the girls were down by more than half. After Selen left they lost another half their audience. Then there was more bleed-off over the next year because their content was terrible. Which is unexpected because that year Nijisanji dumped millions of dollars worth of events and goodies on them. To decline even in the face of that, is remarkeable.The problem was never Selen, the problem was the shit content they continue to put out. People don't like watching Elira collab with 5 guys, or chat about male coworkers for 70% of her stream.
>>108666333That might work, but I simply cannot see them doing any of these things, much less all of them. The closest they would do is to do what they did with VTA - fire all livers and claim "widespread misconduct" as the reason
>>108666258it's a deflection thread pay it no mind anon
>>108664166>What strategies would you employ to help save Nijisanji EN?Fuck off, intern. Figure this shit out yourself.
>>108667049No. In the thread that tries to make believe that NijiEN is destroyed, I will compare them to their closest rival company and I will point out that the rival company has never showed their side branches revenue
>>108667638So you don't like people discussing the state of NijiEN and confirmed you're deflecting to holo to try and prevent discussion.
>>108664166I'd put out a fully female unicorn-friendly no male collabing gen before EN5. Have two lolis, two older teen/young adult models, one hag. Actually make shit people want. They're not going to do it though.- Have a gen with a cohesive lore theme and outfits, e.g. let's say it's magical girl themed- Hag would be the villain and the heel type, like if Jurard wasn't fucking insufferable and had sex appeal. Think Scarle but a bitch.- The non-lolis would be older magical girls who have a big sister/little sister relationship with the lolis- Lolis would be cute and have different streaming focuses that also align with their big sister. For example: a big sister who is a good artist with a loli sister who is a bad artist, but she's teaching her to draw. A big sister who is great at FPS or singing, teaching her loli little sister how to get good or sing or whatever. Tie it into their lore. Maybe the artists draw their summons to fight the villainess, whatever.- Have regular collabs that essentially treat the hag as the villain of the week, and feature the four girls ganging up on the hag. Shit like DBD, Minecraft, anything.No Niji males. No Niji females from the clique. No whore indies. Just CGDCT and sticking to kayfabe. No LLDs. No boyfriends. Just fucking stream shit men want to fucking watch, fuck.
>>108664166Force all the girls to show their asses
>>108666954Nah, it's a terrible idea to admit fault at this point and it's been far too long. Bringing it up in any capacity will just bring up more uncomfortable questions of "Okay, now they acknowledged this, but what about Zaion? What about Twisty?" What they CAN do is acknowledge it in all but name by putting out a statement addressing the concerns without mentioning the people involved, like a statement about taking sexual harassment seriously and firing people involved, but it won't undo the damage done to the people they terminated. Unfortunately, there's no realistic way for them to do that since it's a japanese company with a neurotic fanbase and even if Riku were possessed by Jesus himself and tried to fix things, the suits would never let them acknowledge fault directly.
>>108667742If you start by seething about their numbers and cope about "muh bots" then you don't give a shit and you are a number tranny. Simple
>>108667822So you're upset, got it.
>>108667776>No LLDsThat will come after they inevitably graduate. Or they already made one before they became members of your hypothetical chain and will taint the experience.
>>108667796Oh there's no doubt that apologizing for their actions re: Selen would be far too little and far too late at this point, especially since (as you correctly point out) they also owe apologies to Zaion and Twisty. My point was just that firing some scapegoats without first acknowledging their own mistakes would do the company more harm than good.To say nothing of the fact that they also owe apologies to all of the former members except Aster, and most or all current members.
>>108667276>One of the reasons Selen was so stressed out and melted down was because numbers were in absolute freefall already.If there's one thing I know about Doki/Selen, then that's really not as big of a factor as you'd think, unless you're talking about it from the side of Niji's pressure on her increasing due to numbers. Selen's problems were more with the harassment she was receiving from the staff/streamers and staff's incompetence than any kind of number nonsense affecting her directly.
>>108668718Can you prove this harassment happened? Also in what world is Selen not a numberfag? Do fagoons think everyone is stupid?
>>108667794Have them show their asses to doki as an apology and then let her slap their bare asses while everyone watches
>>108668870Nijisanji themselves admitted that the harassment against Selen had actually happened. They admitted it in her termination notice.They admitted it again a week later in the black screen. The author of Elira's script felt it necessary to mention that she, Millie, and Enna all live in the same city.
>>108664166real talk, why do we even give a shit about ethically sourced vtubers? The company might a shit place to work in but who cares as long as we get entertainment out of it? Corpo hating feels like the vegans of vtubing and just an excuse for tribalism cause shitting on the other makes you feel good.
>>108664505Without real solid proof firing them will just look like a dick move. Speculation of behind the scenes dynamics from this board is a weak excuse and I think firing them based on that would make the company look even worse.
>>108664166Trust is a hard thing to earn back. I would say a majority of the casual vtuber fan base mostly think that the company has incompetent / shitty management and don't want to support a company that treats their employees so poorly. greater transparency on how the managers are helping or how projects are moving along behind the scenes would be a start. Clear communications as for why things get cut or delayed. Also create greater sense that they care about their talents by giving them opportunities or clear support. I think the en live at niji fest helped bring back some old fans who went "oh they do care." but only enough to stabilize to like year 1-2 viewership for some. They need to prove a committed stance on providing the talents with resources and opportunities to thrive but it feels like in general they have no idea how to do that when 90% of them live outside of japan.
>>108669977This industry relies on emotional attachment to the streamers themselves. If something bad happens to the streamer you've grown attached to, people tend to take it personally. The selen situation is easily the best example of the consequences. It wasn't just the dragoons who felt betrayed, but pretty also fans of the others who realized the people they supported weren't as moral as they thought they were. NijiEN hasn't even come close to recovering from it over two years later.
>>108664166>Fire vox. Have Riku do a naked dogeza apology stream for ever hiring him>Let Enna and Millies contrct expire, no need to fire them>They could let Elira go but they can also make her delete the black stream and apologize for it, it's possible that she only did that to protect her "friends" Enna and Millie. Pay Mint as much as necessary to pretend they are friends again>Hire management with actual HR experience, no more techbros>Debut 3-5 member, music focused all-femake wave. No menheras, no /here/tubers, all of them with decent japanese proficiency>Shill. As much as they can. Force jp collabs and make both branchs interact more, force collabs and interactions with other corpos, maybe with holo if a en5 happens to have a friend in niji>Have actual backgrounf checks, if any liver seems like they could have a yab let them go silently>Let talents tell the most deranged sisters to stop being retarded>Keep debuting 1 wave per year, no mixed wavesThey are never reaching 2022 levels again but if they do half of this maybe they will have some actual growth
>>108669679They admitted selen claimed harassment, just in a very esl way that made everyone missinterpret itEthyria being bullies might be true but with the proof we have now the "bullying" could have been not inviting selen to their orgies
>>108668582>they also owe apologies to Zaion and Twisty.No they dont. At most they owe and explanation for the aster stuff but nobody cares about him anymore
>>108671504>No they dont.Of course not. Unlike with Selen, they didn't have enough weight to push back against the ridiculous smearing. There's zero pressure for them to do the right thing and they got away scott free for those. >>108671082In the end, they made whatever original claims she could've had irrelevant due to their actions during and after the termination itself.
>>108667796>but what about Zaion. What about TwistyLiterally who cares. Sayu got rightfully fired after breaking every rule in her contract in 3 months, spent 1.5 years crying about it and sucking false's cock until she finally moved on, most of the community forgot about her alreadyTwisty could have had everyone's simphaty but she spit on her 10 fans and now she has 3Selen shock was huge because she was the most liked niji by outsiders, nobody cares about the other whores
>>108669679Nope. They admitted Selen cried about harassment. But she also cried about harassment during a marvel tournament because people pointed out she was cheating so we know that's bullshit>Defending yourself is harassment What a pussy you are. A chronic loser
>>108671833how the fuck do you cheat at a rigidly controlled corpo shooterthis is a rhetorical question, i'm aware that this anon is full of shit
hire more women. it's a branch that had 0 noteworthy EN female hire after Ethyria and Scarlefor whatever reason every JP corpo that is not called Cover struggle a lot in EN market, maybe because EN audience actually care about indies
>>108671929they're pointless in the EN market. mint and everyone else have figured out that you can hire management firms to handle the business aspects that are out of your depth so that you can focus on content. these 360 deals where corpos make you sign over your soul are dead. we don't need shit like nijisanji.
>>108671929>every JP corpo that is not called Cover struggle a lot in EN marketSame for every EN corpo thats not phaseThe west loves indie whores to much while jp worship corpos too much
>>108671082>>108671833>the company which would stand the most to lose by there being any evidence of harassment not only admitted that the harassment happened, they also did so completely voluntarily, they publicly announced it before she did, they made no effort whatsoever to dispute or challenge her claims, and they went into much further detail about who was harassing her than she herself did>this somehow does not count as proof that any harassment had actually happened
>>108670228That's the reason the black stream was such a bad idea. If it didn't happen they could fire the janitor put the blame on them and say everything is solved, now they can't move on without punishing the clique in public.
>>108672344>not only admitted that the harassment happenedGo ahead and prove you're ESL. Show me>they made no effort whatsoever to dispute or challenge her claimsI thought they did with the totally evil black stream? Fagoons truly are delusional. Just like their oshi
>>108672094Nijisanji and Hololive isn't for management, it is to get more eyes on you right away. You're the top percentage of streamers if you have 10+ viewers, like doing better than 90~95% of all other streamers. That's still considered a small streamer.
>>108673988People forget this all the time. The point of joining a corpo is an instant audience. NijiEN still gets you to bare minimum 100 ccv, which is... something at least, but pre-selen shock it was instant 4viewThough in this case it's more of a can you handle the corpo life/abuse/stagnation for it?
>>108673988>Nijisanji and Hololive isn't for management, it is to get more eyes on you right away.Some of those viewers will turn out to be okay, but most of them will be - well, Nijisanji and Hololive viewers. Seems like a really bad trade-off to me.
>>108674375>Though in this case it's more of a can you handle the corpo life/abuse/stagnation for it?I hope that the answer becomes "no" more and more for new streamers. Build your shit from the ground up, carefully prune the assholes from your community, and you'll wind up with a core audience of people that will follow you wherever.
>>108675147You're name is out there regardless instead of slow grinding, shilling yourself, and hoping to get lucky.
>>108675235>>108675147On the contrary, I don't even think it's a bad thing or even a bad tradeoff in a lot of cases. For example, NijiEN if you treat it like "part-time" supplemental income the way JP does is a pretty sweet gig. You just hit 'go live' a couple of times a month and get a few easy bucks and clout. Nearly all of the remaining NijiENs treat it this way and just don't bother with complex projects that'd require staff input. The problem only starts when you actually have ambition, goals, and the work ethic/stubbornness to want them done. That's when the whole issue of management being minimum wage high schoolers handling far more people than they're qualified for becomes a problem. Doki alone employs teams of tens of people to make her projects real, on top of her standing employee count of about a dozen between assistants, managers, and staff. And she was forbidden from hiring outside help or even hiring one assistant at Nijisanji. Suddenly, mane-san has this unpleasant western woman constantly making demands of them like "get this perm" or "approve this" or "can you contact Y" 20 times a week, rocking the boat from their cushy job where they didn't really have to do anything before. That makes people angry, so they might "forget" to approve something critical to her at the worst timing, or they might start complaining to the others like "Yeah I know you wanted to get this done but SELEN asked me for like 5 things so no." It's pretty easy to see how shit could go off the rails because Anycolor's too cheap to hire qualified staff.
>>108675147I'd rather have a holofag audience than a nijinigger one
>>108671504Just because they didn't get the support system that Selen had set up for herself doesn't mean that Niji didn't screw them over. If Niji apologizes for their handling of Selen and not at least Zaion then that's still a shitty apology. A victim doesn't stop deserving reparations just because you don't like her
>>108664166Id kill myself
>>108677119Good post. Interesting points. Haven't thought about this as much as you have (I wrote the posts to which you responded). Thanks!>>108677171Bad post. Lazy. Indistinguishable from something a corpobot would write. No thanks.
>>108671701I thought Zaion got fired due to management retroactively punishing her for their shitty decisionsAlso it's interesting to see how you blame the victim because it's a person you dislike. Makes you no better than a Nijisister tbdesu
>>108664166>WeFigure it out yourself Riku
>>108677527because that is a nijisister, have you not seen the dozens of deflection posts in this thread?
>>108677507calm down retard
>>108666954>>108668582ain't no one reading all that
>>108664166multi stream on different platforms apologize for making 2dtubers mainstreaminvest in crypto.
>>108664818why do holobros make so many anti threads about vtubers they don't like?
>>108664166they're fine. They were really only hololive level for like a year, there just isnt room in the western market for 2 big corpos. As there are more and more indies and small corpos, there are only so many eyeballs to watch them. Hololive is declining too, each gen is weaker and weaker with less people caring. A few more big graduations and they wont be in much better shape. I admire Niji for sticking to their guns and just staying in their niche.
>>108664505You dont watch them and have no idea. Vox is an asshole, sure, and is the root of most problems. The Selen thing included. But to just throw Elira in there just shows what a disingenuous faggot you are. She causes no problems, she has no yabs, she is nice to everyone, she works hard. No one has anything bad to say about her, she just stays in her lane and does her thing. She supports everyone. Because she read a 5 minute corpo script one time (to take the bullet for Vox) that invalidates her whole career? Fuck you and every other fagoon piece of shit.
>>108677119Doki should have just shut up and quit rocking the boat and ruining it for everyone. Not everyone is born to be a star, and she certainly isnt, judging by her "success" now
>>108667276This. Selen really was negligible, losing Pomu is what started everything swirling down the drain. It would have ended up the same as it is now, it just happened a bit faster
>>108679095Elira and Ren both remind me of that "but you fuck one goat..." joke. Everything about them seems fine, nice, sure, but then they each did something completely unforgivable and that's going to define them until it's addressed. (Elira with the black stream, Ren with WolfyChu)Ike fell into that category too until he actually repented and apologized.
>>108664166I don't think that's possible anymore. Even if you terminate all the problematic ones (enna, millie, vox, etc) you still have to deal with the fact that the branch is providing entertainment for a market that doesn't existtroons are a very small minority with a fundamentally different taste from the rest of the population yet your entire branch is built around them
>>108664166Keep the ones who want to stay, let go the ones who want to leave. NijiEN is in maintenance mode, as it should be. The ones who stay and want to be more involved with the JP livers are doing exactly that. The ones who don't, and mostly treat this as a low-stakes part-time job, seem to be content in that regards. I'm making assumptions out of thin air, of course.
>>108679095Elira lets her best friends Milie and Enna shit the place up. Obviously promotes them to JP so they get marketing opportunities over others more deserving. She is a cancer to the female side of NijisanjiEN.
>>108677119This. Westoid foids are the problem. That's why NijiEN is so much better now since they got rid of theirs. Meanwhile holoen is constantly in drama because the retards still employ westoids as vtubers.
>>108680499The only reason why NijisanjiEN has no drama is because they don't do anything anymore.
>>108680585NijiEN had more 3D Lives just last year than holoen in all its existence KWAB!
>>108680499>>108680608What is this cringe deflection to holo? It doesn't matter if niji en put out more of their dogshit 3D lives because nobody watched that slop anyway.
>>108680585>>108680845What is this cringe deflection to niji? It doesn't matter if holo en put out more of their dogshit 3D lives because nobody watched that slop anyway.
>What can be done to save Niji EN?>GRRRRRR HOLOLIVE WHAT ABOUT HOLOLIVE IT'S HOLOLIVE'S FAULT PLEASE TALK ABOUT HOLOLIVE FUCKING HOLOKEKSthis is pathetic xisters, take some responsibility for the dogshit state of nijiEN, you helped give it its current reputation after all by acting like subhumans like this
>>108680878holy nijixister SEETHE, crying about holo for no reason isn't going to help revive nijiEN now that they're earning less than before luxiem debuted
>>108680955holy holoxister SEETHE, crying about niji for no reason isn't going to help revive holoEN now that they're earning less than before council debuted
>>108680955I'm not even a holofag but holo derangement syndrome is real for nijisister, just like whenever selen mentioned.
>>108681135HoloEN actually earns more from just merch in a single quarter than the entirety of nijiEN earns from all revenue sources per quarter, and if the current downward trend for niniEN's revenue continues then a single quarter of merch sales for HoloEN will outearn nijiEN's revenue for the entire fiscal year.
Didn't the latest reports reveal how much of a loss having NijiEN is to the brand? At least the new boys are carrying the old has beens.
>>108681268You can't even say they're carrying.Even with the new boys, they're back in freefall again.
>>108681268They're losing money despite adding members
>>108681305They're not losing money, they're just earning less
>>108681321This is hard to say since we know revenue, but we don't know the exact costs to run the branch.We did however see -8 one time, which was very funny. That said, I do agree that they're unlikely to be in the red. They are still far, far, far above the likes of NijiID, NijiIN, or NijiKR when they were dissolved.
>>108681321The main cost of NijiEN is in reputational destruction. NijiEN has effectively made Nijisanji a toxic brand on a global level, doing hundreds of millions of $$$ worth of brand destruction. It means Nijisanji has absolutely no chance at ever expanding beyond Japan like investors hoped. Nijisanji became absolutely obsessed with trying to ressurect Elira's reputation. They put her in every single event, every single 3D, plastered her face all over billboards and posters. Every time they did that, they dug their grave deaper. Effectively doing $10's of millions of brand damage to themselves. If they were smart they would have fired Elira immediately, but then what would be the point of NijiEN?>>108681350The -8 comes from the California concert. People were shitposting about Holo getting events and Niji getting nothung, so Niji rolled out a California concert as if to say 'fuck you'. However as soon as they announced it, people question how NijiEN was supposed to fill 3000 seats when none of them even got 3000 ccv. Riku's idea was to slap Chronoir onto the billing, since in Riku's mind Chronoir = popularity. But little Riku doesn't understand that nobody outside Japan knows who the fuck Chronoir is. Nobody bought tickets, they were forced to cancel the concert. But they still had to pay the event fee, hence the -8. They also had 4 life-size statues made for the event. The statues of Shu and Elira made it there, but the statues of Chronoir conveniently had 'shipping problems', likely to save them from the humiliation. Pictures of the event show the Nijisanji booth totally empty, with the statue of Elira creepily standing there like a weeping angel.
>>108664166Nuke the branch or fold it into the main one, idgaf either way
>>108681612At this point I think combining them into nijiJP will do more harm than good
>>108682385Perfect
>>108664166Non-Japanese vtubers are trash. Foreign branches, be it Niji, Holo, or whatever, should've never happened in the first place. This is proven by the fact that the funniest "EN" vtuber is actually Meloco when she speaks Japanese.The main branches should just assimilate the ones willing to target a Japanese audience and leave the rest with the dregs outside.
>>108664166>wenice try niji intern but i'm not helping you tho
>>108674375Yesn't, it became an insta 3 view after Iluna dropped
At the risk of sounding like a chud, I'd lime to throw the children complaining about "westoids" a bone here and say that cultural incompatibility was the fuel that burned Niji EN to the ground (with managerial incompetence being the never-ending supply of torches thrown into it). The non-EN audience flipped their shit over Nina saying "cursed" for fuck's sake. Leave them in their bubble.
>>108664166Someone from the (ex) golden 20 needs to go.Any of them should work as a scapegoat besides maybe Finana who's the textbook definition of a doormat and probably Petra
>>108665945>Not to mention it actually was making a lot of money a few years ago.Where have all the ppl spending boatloads of money gone? Did they switch companies or just leave the hobby entirely?Would be quite interesting to know...
>>108684301Idiots do love their scapegoats. And it might work for a little while, at least until whatever translation LLM they're using gives them something new to complain about.
>>108684324We followed the ones who graduated to their indie debuts.Awww, did the masses of ESL children who shot Luxiem to the top run out of allowance money? Tough break, sisters.
>>108682385they could just terminate all 30 members, rush out 30 random VTAs to replace them and chances are they would be more profitable
>>108684949They should have just treated it like Menudo from the beginning, if this cyclical cash grab from children was going to be their main business model. Once the members outgrow the capabilities of the branch, they go indie. It would be expected.
