PSA: Youtube is deleting color subtitles from all videos, which includes a lot of subbed Hololive MVs and Hologras.Say goodbye to subs
>>108714821Why though?
>>108714821Skill issue. They should have learned Japanese
>>108714860People can have hearing issues you know...I use subs because I'm mostly deaf and I have trouble understanding audio when there's too much loud noise in the background.
>>108714832no one knows but a bunch of Holo MVs have already been hit
>>108714821YT really is trying to make the viewer experience as soulless as possible, huh.
>>108714832They need to “justify” using AI. Instead of making the AI subtitles work correctly, it’s easier to just remove the manual subs that are made so they don’t expose how shit the AI subs that will be forced on the videos to replace them are.
>>108714832It is required for big companies to make the absolute worst decisions possible.
>>108714821It's truly amazing that every single fucking update that Youtube pushes is in detriment of its platform. Every single one is to make it worse. Pure enshittification.
>>108714832To make way for AI-generated captions
>>108714821Neal Mohan and his army of conscripted pajeets shall die a horrible death before this year is over, Allah be my witness.
If they get rid of kino like the subs for miy_yuu's aishite aishite aishite I will never forgive Neal.
>>108715073They will, it's rolling out since yesterday. Back it up if you care.
>>108714928Don#t worry, soon you can have a ChatGPT, Gemini or Grok chip implanted into your brain to get live subtitles 24/7 (terms apply, service contains 12 minutes of ad breaks per full hour, inaccuracies and training data bias are not the responsibility of the service provider)
>>108714821good NORMALFAGS GET OUT GET OUT GET OUT GET OUTSHOULD HAVE LEARNED JAPANESE GO SHIT UP /V/ NIGGERS
weird decision, youtube as always doing their absolute best to provide the shittiest experience possiblethat being said, I pretty much only used the youtube subs for hologra, since they talk way too fast for me to catch anything
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>>108714832To make the experience worse, of course.
>>108714832>youtube engineers justifying their job>deliberately making the service worse, allowing you to restore it by buying premium>justifying AI>poojeets ruining the site because of their incompetencetake your pick
--sub-langs all,-live_chat--convert-subs srt--embed-subs
>>108714832Because they want their AI to replace it.
>>108715191>All of them are correct
>>108715213How is AI going to replace lyrics that are specifically color-coded based on who's singing or arranged in non-standard ways to provide a more aesthetic viewing experience?
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>>108714821My personal rrat is that youtube got wise to creators using weird tricks with subtitles to poison AI scrapers and decided to just nuke it allhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEDFUjqA1s8
>>108715254They aren't you'll just get a bog standard Google translation and live with it.
I member when they got rid of community subtitles for pretty much no reason. No idea why they're so fucking anal about this shit.
>>108715200Shits already half broken its not surviving the year
>>108715254Stop asking questions that get in the way of making shareholders happy.
>>108715254Maybe you will pay a subscription for that service.It's a shit move and smells like money is involved. Take away fan work to give a new service that is shit, until it becomes sophisticated enough to 'satisfy' people enough. Being a controlled feature.
>>108715443Corpos making everything worse continues. How horrible
>>108715191All of the above, the last point meaning that quality will never be achieved and that makes the big shots happy. Pay $1 more after 5 updates to make the service a 5/10 experience from a 4.
>>108714928Taso can you please make a new Twitter account instead of posting on 4chan...?
>>108714832Anon, in case you're unaware, this is NOT the first time they've done this EXACT thingYouTube used to allow anyone to slap annotations to a video, which served as subtitles before subtitles were addedThen they removed that feature entirelyThey also removed the ability to directly message people on YouTube instead of having to contact them through other social media or using comments, likely to shill Google+ (which they killed later)
>>108715254You write AI on your pitch for a feature, your boss is super impressed, because he heard AI is where it's at and he can say he's working on AI, and you get budget for that feature, in turn other features get their budget slashed and are deprecated, because no one is paid to maintain it.
>>108714832they need to always break something new
>>108714832you WILL use ai
>>108715819As much as annotations were a blessing they also had the downside of trolling. Removing it at least had a reasonable explanation
>>108714832youtube ceo is a jeet, you don't need to know more.
>>108714821you WILL eat the slopand you WILL fucking die in misery
Anyone know of a decent Youtube alternative? I've tried Rumble, Bitchute and Odysee in the past but didn't like any of them.
guys, we don't need subtitles anymore. youtube has autodubbing!
>>108716331None, never will beDailymotion never took off either
>>108715191This is why I hate Pajeets.
>>108716331There's no youtube alternative. The main issue is youtube is THE content hub. That is unless everyone shakes hands and collectively move onto another platform together. I don't wanna open 4 different sites to watch 5 creators I like bruh
>>108715105I'd rather die.
>>108714832>>108714821they are saving countless KILObytes of data.
>>108716383Your dead body will be used to make more slop btwYour brain will train AI, your likeness will be used for AI, even your soul will soon be used as fuel to keep the whole thing chugging along
>>108716373Pretty much this. youtube is the biggest example of the network effect. Even if we all agreed on moving to platform X, Y, Z, etc. we would still search on youtube for that one old video that we saw 15 years ago. Not to mention all the vods being there.
>>108716399The future really is grim, this doesn't even feel hypothetical anymore...
>>108716373You reminded me Pewdiepie made a youtube alternative and started posting stuff there, didn't last a month iirc.This was when he played Alien Isolation. I remember being annoyed that the eps were being posted there first.
>>108714832They've invested billions in the LLM infrastructure and now need to shoehorn it everywhere to justify the cost
>>108716427Last time we called these "hypotheticals," Stan Lee was still alive when they used him like a circus animalHe's still used like that now via AI
>>108714821KWABOTY
>>108716427>this doesn't even feel hypothetical anymore...Anon...What >>108716501 is true. Search "AI Stan Lee hologram at LA Comic Con"I'd post a screenshot but 4cuck is being a bitch right now
>>108716425Well, good thing youtube is slowly trimming older content. I've racked up quite a number of unavailable videos in my playlists that I highly doubt the creator would've privated it themselves.
>>108716501It's really fucking crazy how they extracted blood from him without his consent, then had him sign comics with his OWN FUCKING BLOODNot only did somebody have that idea and get away with putting it in action, someone actually bothered getting their comics signed like thatFucking dystopian fiction writers couldn't come up with this
>>108714821another stupid, unnecessary change. what the fuck is even going on with silicon valley fags?
>>108716331You cannot have one, the reason being that the large amount of infrastructure required and the low margins make it extremely hard to compete. yt itself would have gone bankrupt if it hadn't been bought by google.
>>108716331self-hosted peertube
>>108715819They also removed community subtitles which could be added to someone else's video and then approved by the video uploader. This was how many early vtuber videos were subbed
In the future you will be unable to listen to original language audio. It will automatically replace the voices with an AI approximation translated into your language.
>>108716840and if you want to turn it off? premium is the only wayi fucking hate jeet
>>108714832Because removing features is the only thing they know how to do.>>108716331Youtube killed them all off by offering features they couldn't afford while bleeding money for years, so now they are trying everything to make you watch ads or pay.
>>108716906Yep, it'll be hard-linked to your account, and you will have to provide a photo-ID and webcam picture to log in to your account.
>>108714928>People can have hearing issues you know...S K I L L I S S U E
>>108714821Never a better time to start learning nipponesian than yesterday.
>>108714832Instead of having saved subtitles files for millions of videos, they will let an AI generate it on the fly to "save storage space"
reminder
>>108717310>subtitles files for millions of videosThe filespace required for a million sets of subtitles would be less than that required for a single 4K video upload.
>>108717647Ok cool but what the fuck am i supposed to do about it
>>108717647this is obviously written by AI and she's also just wrong. money isn't even changing hands for the most part, it's just hypothetical deals
>>108714821Corpos and shareholder tongue my anus
>>108717759>money isn't even changing hands for the most part, it's just hypothetical dealsyou... uh... DO know that's exactly what caused the Great Recession, right
>>108717787>OH MY G OD HWE DISAGREED WITH THE FAKE ACCOUNT POSTING AI GENERATED TWEETS THAT MUST MEAN HE'S DEFENDING AI REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEbreathe, nigga
>>108717759Buddy do I have a movie for you to watch
>>108714821>EOPs btfoYou love to see it.
>>1087158772real4me
>>108717938What learning disability do you have to misinterpret my post this badly?
>>108717678go full luigi
>>108716373And that is never going to happen unless the site literally shuts down. We couldn't even move on from twitter
>>108714832Probably something like "it doesn't work properly on mobile so we're killing it for everyone". Which was their exact reasoning for killing annotations. Except for the single annotation in the corner showing the channel's thumbnail which every moron who takes a screenshot leaves enabled for some reason even though that icon is the only thing you can ever possibly see from leaving the setting turned on FUCK that pisses me off.
>useful feature that works>kill itthanks google, as always. every website on the internet has forgotten how to search fuck this bullshit. the last 10 years of the internet have been fucking terrible.
>>108715073Checked it just now, it's already gone
>>108716581>there's no way its true>look it up
>>108714832I'm starting to genuinely believe that it's just out of spite at this point. So many changes to YouTube UI just feel motivated from spite
>>108715191It's sort of insane just how many areas of life would noticeably change for the better were Indians simply to blip from existence
Did you guys notice that embedded Youtube videos for some reason have no UI now? What the fuck is up with that?
>>108715254We're going to go through what anime subs went through when fan translations just stopped because it was easier to scrape Crunchyroll's subs and they were such an OBVIOUS step down in quality, aren't we?
>>108716373It's because of your laziness that things are this bad now. If you can open 5 channels, you can open 5 websites.
>>108723598I dunno but I'm thankful for that.
>>108724056The content for this board is either on Youtube or Twitch. That's it. That's literally it. You suggest laziness but its on the content to make the move to justify the migration.
I absolutely love that there was zero communication of why this happened or that it even happened. They just did this. They told us about the AI censorship but they just dropped the support for .srv3s despite being able to very obviously and clearly identify from the videos with millions of millions of views that they are very obviously being used.Very cool.
>>108716581>>108722578WhatThere's no way, there's just no way, right
>>108717759Motherfucker, you are talking about money, a fucking concept built exclusively on the social contract and the speculation born from that. Those HYPOTHETICAL DEALS impact everything.
>>108718420Become a plumber?
>>108716581What the fuck.
>>108714832
>>108724452>Those HYPOTHETICAL DEALS impact everything.obviously? what does that have to do with her AI-generated tweet being wrong though?
>>108714821good, subtitles should be white only
>>108723632I conveniently stopped watching anime, especially subbed shows, after that happened. What's it like now? Even currently I only read the occasional raw manga or novel.
>>108714832Because it was never an officially supported subtitle format by youtube and Cover is retarded for relying on undocumented unsupported features for their contentThere are other official subtitle formats that support color they could have used instead
>>108714821So just use normal subtitles?
>>108716581okay now look at all the crazy things the japs you adore so much committed, weeb
>>108725901I don't think I ever see fan translations now. It seems they just scrape the CR one and call it a day. I could be wrong, though. So if you were disappointed, its the same.
>>108725914>There are other official subtitle formats that support color they could have used insteadWhy weren't they being used then? What are they? Because the conversion to JSON3 apparently doesn't allow for the expression of .srv3s
>>108726105huh i wonder if that explains the sharp decline in the population of otaku with actual sensitivities for japanese culture
>>108726258I mean there's more than one variable but I wouldn't be surprised if its playing its part in that.
>>108714821i have already been seething for a while when they removed the community subtitles approval system. cant even be mad anymore at this point. the amount of shit that got lost because of this must be insane, especially since there was no warning so there was no way to rally people to back up stuff in time.
>>108726133https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2734698?hl=en#zippy=%2Cadvanced-file-formats
>>108724395It's the most outlandish thing they did to him, but it's far from the worstForcing him to attend events while he was barely aware of his surroundings and could barely hold a pen was so much worse
>>108714821Why
>>108714821Common holocuck L
>>108714821there's nothing wrong with normal subs
>>108730894They will be gone soon too
>>108730894Colored subs help to identify girls you don't know when there aren't enough visual indicators or the voices are overlapping in, for example, a clip. They are the only non intrusive option.
>>108731095>identify girls you don't knowSounds like a you problem for not recognizing different voices
Newfigs don't remember how Youtube killing off support for third party subtittles crashed a lot of global momentum for first wave Vtubers
>>108714832Jewtube is run by actual fucking retards and greedy faggots. It's why the platform is total dogshit
>>108714832probably for AIand youtube/google actively kills any of the old stuff that lets you customize things. everything needs to be the same. the content they're pushing with the algorithm is all the same shit toono customization or personality is allowed, that's the mindset behind the modern tech/web design
>>108734789>no customization or personality is allowed, that's the mindset behind the modern tech/web designAh yes, material ui
>>108714832Jeet code
>>108714821>the subtitles that hololive paid professional localizers for are getting nukedoh nyoooooo
Susan stepping down as CEO..
>>108734875..only to pass the reigns to the piece of shit who's in charge now..
>>108734875I don't know what you're smoking, she brought nothing of value or good either.
>>108734893>only to pass the reigns*reins
>>108734932Exactly. Everyone was cheering when Susan stepped down lol, they thought Youtube would get better. But now Poosan is in charge.>>108734933ah nuts. I always forget.
>>108714821>>108714832Their plan is probably to use AI to generate subtitles and then in the distant future they will train this AI to propagandize the subtitles.
I hate the auto dubbing more than anything. I got recommended some random Finnish video a while back, and they even change the title of the video.
>>108735182At least you can disable that..
somehow reminds me of this shithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfkBYHFZAt8>good colorful well placed custom subs replaced by standard "ADVANCED CUP DO NOT EDIT", check polish sub for comparison>the subber in question actually showed up in comment and sees nothing wrong with itthe comment chain seems to be gone nowadays but what a shitshow
>>108733915I'm pretty sure YouTube didn't kill that feature until around 2020–2021. Because I remember contacting a random indie vtuber to approve my community subs right around HoloEN's debut. So the first waves would still benefit from the community subs during the 2020 vtuber boom.For Kizuna Ai, her momentum in the EOP market got killed because the community subs came out more slowly than she uploaded videos. It wasn’t a huge issue though, since she was still big in JP and gaining fans on Bilibili.
