What went wrong?
just menhera numberfag problems
>>108729981She's going back to niji?
>>108729981>Had a meeting with a managerShe has more than one manager? Did I miss her joining a new corpo or what
go back to your cute model. simple as
>>108729981>meeting with my managerTranslation: Meeting with my Boyfriend
>>108730175She burns through managers faster than Niji burns through vtubers
>>108730131>>108730131>>108730131
Why are white women likethis
>>108730203projecting whore that broke up with her chat because she found a new boyfriend and she also considers her past gfe content as cringe.
why'd she drop gaypex
>indie>has a managerwhat the fuck? why????
>>108730573she's chinese.
>>108730593mythic managers sort out sponsers.
>>108730586dead gaym
>>108729981Doki is a numberfag that's what went wrong. There's only so much juice you can squeeze out before the burn out sets in.
>>108730586Fucking everyone dropped apex
>back to her rootsfeeding dramafags?
>>108730175>She has more than one manager? Did I miss her joining a new corpo or whatIt's actually more complicated if you followed her since post Niji>Go indie>Ride the high as you are the victim>Your mother says you need to do more more to remain popular>Spend lots to self-advertise, do events etc. Barely break even>Get manager 1>He doesn't handle emails and fucks up a merch deal, fired>Mother has decided to force herself in as staff due to this>Drama happens with her family again (this was a common issue in Niji and expected with chink parents)>Flee home with dog and file a restraining order on family>Get manager 2, some ex e-sports guy>Part ways abruptly months later>Get manager 3, logistics ends the relationship swiftly>Had at least 2 to 3 people representing her at recent cons like Anime Impulse & VexPoFrankly she's throwing money around and not getting shit back. It's embarrassing she is bleeding this much staff
>>108729981losing the tournament to xqc wrecked her
>>108730203Michael literally made this bitch divorce her fans
>>108731191i dont exactly believe her because she also claims she broke even after all her time in niji
>>108729981this girl's been on a self destructive path for a whilethrows away money way too easily, i don't think she's gonna survive after her vtubing career ends
>>108730203This is all true. Source: I am Doki's boyfriend. And before you ask, yes, she does say "thank you thank you" when I cum on her tits.
>>108730203good riddance, I only like skinny bitches
>>108730593Because after you get so big shit like legal obligations, sponsorships, merch, financials and taxes gets to be difficult to manage while being a content creator. Its like any other hobby turned business, you'll drown under paper work if you try to manage it yourself. That's why even small businesses need accountants and financial managers, people you can delegate work to so you can focus on the core of the business. Its ultimately why corps, and group partnerships still exist in Vtubing, they handle all that noise.
>>108729981HOLY FUCK YOU BITCHES MAKE 6 FIGURES DOING NOTHING! JUST STREAM YOU RETARDED WHORE! I HATE WOMEN SO MUCH!
>>108730222>She burns through managers faster than Holo burns through vtubersftfy
>>108730203It's always the mentally ill that has something to say.
>>108730586she dropped apex just to play highguard later>NEW BREED FPS XDDD
>>108732929>MAKE 6 FIGURESWhat are taxes?
>>108733008Oh my God no, a liveable fuckin revenue even after taxes?!? I feel soooooooo sorry for her now, anon. YOU'RE the right one.
>>108733044thats in canadian funny money
>>108732398She made a shitton of money in SC while she was in Niji. She made something on the order of $200k in CY 2023, but broke even because she spent that much on projects and such meant to make her fans smile.
>>108729981Well i dont really watch her but my impression of her is>Twitch>constant interaction with fleshies she is like some sort of ironlung
>>108730203They hated her because she spoke the truth
>>108730203something something stones something something glass houses
>>108730175>She has more than one manager? Did I miss her joining a new corpo or whatDoki has a team of about 12ish standing employees. She has I think 2 assistants, a head manager, and some other managers that mostly focus on sponsorships, scheduling, and handling some of her projects. Then she has her agents for various markets/sponsorships/merch collabs (her asia team got her the Goodsmile deals and probably her Void Gaming controllers, etc) and some other positions I forget, but I'm pretty sure they involve her storefront. She went through the list at some point last year. Oh and also the dedicated devs for her minecraft server making custom mods for the servers/keeping them running. This doesn't count contractors like her thumbnail artist who she's been working with since pre-corpo, DokiBites animators, or the 3D artists/sound designers/composers she works with for her event trailers. Back in the corpo, she handled all of this herself, which made learning to delegate things pretty difficult, as well as it being hard to find people who were better at those tasks than she was.
>>108734974>Doki has a team of about 12ishHow many of those are the people paid to shitpost here?
>>108732398it's easy to break even when you're a big earner and a big spender
>>108729981Those roots, me.
>>108732929Doki is like the anti-Saba in terms of actually streaming, retard-kun
>>108735038Probably none of them. They're busy actually getting her projects done. Her latest one was a massive VRChat world stuffed full of interactive minigames, enterable buildings and interactive NPCs, references to her and her friends, and is going to be updated soon with a playable version of the FPS pvp game from her initial debut trailer. It released like two weeks ago?
>>108735139The way you post makes it very obvious you're one of them though
>>108735188Nah, I just like gushing about my oshi in bait threads in the hope that it catches a tourist and sends them good vibes.
>>108729981had to stop watching because of the male collabs, I could deal with the group stuff like the street fighter tourney or apex but I just cant be bothered with the multi part 1 on 1 male collabs. I excused it when she was selen but now that she's indie, guess i got filtered.
>>108735233Do you get paid at all for the overtime?
>all those people in the replies begging her to play normalfag games or unrelated kusoge
>>108729981QUICK Batman! To the Attempt Mobile to refresh our pity views!
>>108729981Model and personality not feminine enough
just play cs and do gamble opening
>>108732370Why would her cat do this?
Not soulless at all that her stream games are decided by a committee.
>>108729981i'm tired of bitch. every time i see something of her she's complaining
>>108734974Holy fuck she sounds overleveraged as fuck.If she was like, as big as xqc or something, I'd get it, but as it stands that sounds like insane overkill.
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>>108739257i thought you lot went extinct already
>>108735139Niji wish they didn't terminated her.
>>108734918?????????????People in stones shouldn't throw glass houses?????????????
>>108739300Have you ever seen a cat irl? They're sociopaths
>>108730203lol this advice aged horribly. do shon fags still believe she doesn't have one?
she's just a mid rate streamer by many standards unfortunately
>>108739257Unironically doki should get into a fight with xqc then commit suicide twice like she did with niji.It's the only way to save her career.
>>108740395Careful anon fagoons will call you a nijisis
>>108740482million dollar idea
>>108730203my thoughts exactly lol
>>108740482>>108740873>giving the inbred mushmouth any sort of attention at alllol, lmao
>>108740891Quit being mean to Doki you bully
>>108729981it all went wrong by not playing command & conquer renegade
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>>108739520You have no idea how much money an indie channel with a consistent 4-view audience makes.
>>108730203pot calling kettle black coming from that one
>>108730582>she also considers her past gfe content as cringedid she really say this?
>>108730593a good manager is an investment, they can negotiate deals you can't and they also save you time. you might as well be asking why an individual taxpayer would hire an accountant. sure, you CAN do it yourself, but if your tax situation is complex then you're wasting a lot of time and you're unlikely to save as much money as an accountant wouldshondo doesn't know what she's talking about or she was conflating being a small vtuber with being "indie" and was too stubborn to clarify her point
>>108729981Her model is garbage
>>108729981she's such a flip flopperMy take on this is that she played a wide range of games nobody else can afford, like some needed expensive console and a lot were niche AAA games while shooters like apex, MR, fortnite , arcraiders are litterally free to download & play.I know Doki relies on sponsorship and most games she plays /showcases are sponsored to her anyway, but that doesn't mean it's the same for her audience.Her audience does have to buy those games that's the whole reason why sponsors use streamers to shill.
>>108729981This thread is (a more retarded) repeat of something that was already discussed before. Many months ago, I wrote a large wall of text I don't care to look for, nor do I remember exactly what I wrote, but tl;dr, she needs to go back to Apex BUT she needs to duo/trio with the people her viewers love to see her playing with, which are rpr, dtto(been a long while), the Holostars TSB(?) team she played with, and add bettel since her fans loved the small team they had, and for a more interesting, maybe even exciting thing to do, Apex Collab with that one Niji only Apex guy, Ryoman.She stills wants to br pic rel.
I hate apex and fps games.
Reminder that she also ghosted multiple managers in Niji. At what point do people call a spade a spade and realize she's always been menhera? People with healthy minds tend to not look the way she does
>>108742205It's been two years soldier, you can stop fighting an already lost battle. It's abundantly clear by now that that pendulum is not going to swing
>>108742293NTA, and I'm not here to anti this woman, but she doesn't help herself when her BPD and brainworms take over, and then she gives ammo to her antis. IDK how common or not her episodes are.
>>108729981she doesn't like arc raiders, that's it, that's the dilemma
>>108741852basically, she should do more collabs, compare to other vtubers, she do way too little collabs, remember the tenma shoe bet? yeah she still hasnt done that yet, even though tenma has shoot her a dm i think? I was hyped as fuck and now months pass by and nothing came from it, i was so disappointed
It’s very clear that most here have no idea the severity of psychopathology that is present in people with BPD. Otto Kernberg himself has gone on the record starting that the level of psychosis in BPD is second only to schizophrenia.
>>108741078NTA but yeah I have no idea, because 12 people is what, 250k yearly AT VERY LEAST?
>>108741078In the corpo she made $200k thereabouts according to her own statement. That should be doubled with no corpo cut, however her viewers since leaving the corpo are actually down slightly. Then she gets merch money. So all told she probably makes what, like $500k/year. But her viewers are going down even more, so it's less
>>108739545She picked up the audience that Doki abandoned. Meanwhile, Doki has nothing to show for her nonstop Marvel Rivals shilling.
>>108729981I have male collab fatigue.Yes she should be more GFE and quit playing on her alts with her pro FPS friends.Yes I'm mad so what? Been with her since the start, my voice matters a lot.
A lot of what drew me into Selen has been lost with Doki. She never tried to relaunch the Apex guest streams, and the Marvel Rivals shilling has been a major deterrent, with little to show for it.
>>108745025Apex is dead
>>108744803>Been with her since the start>Still mad she's doing the same shit she's literally always done
>>108745396>>108745025Love it when cuckgoons fight over who is the bigger cuck
will doki ever do gfe to get her numbers up
>>108730131FPBP
>>108730203
>>108729981>What went wrongShe had an adorable model and became Great Value Selen
>>108743254That and the multiplayer only fps genre is fucking dead
>>108744194True for me, there's something weirdly relaxing about a cute girl playing apex at a high level and arya filled that void
>>108729981>What went wrong She was a passenger in this car
>>108742205It’s easier to name the vtubers that aren’t menhera than those that are anon. The bulk of streamers out there are bound to have brainworms when this becomes their livelihood, at least Doki’s crashouts are more reasonable compared to plenty of other IRL streamers or even other vtubers.
no new popular fps, same reason why vspo has been lowkey struggling content wise. APEX hype died and valo is not as streaming friendlyshe really is EN aoi sakura, tryhard in an unappealing way
>>108740042Takes one to know one
>>108747800what is arc raiders? also, marathon is releasing soon.
>>108729981>go back to my roots and play more shooters againsooo, by "more shooters" does she mean all of the shooters she's already played, because I can't name a good pure shooter that's been released this decade.
>>108743329Not many want to risk putting an active target on their back to risk getting I WILL NOT BE SILENCED ANYMORE by the bipolar menhera a few months down the line.
>>108748122Doki hates extraction shooters. According to her, it's just not fun to lose all your shit and have to decide whether to have fun and bring your gear or bring less powerful gear and just lose it all because a drone showed up mid firefight/you get ambushed. >>108748131Just shooters in general, apparently, which is hard because the only shooter she actually enjoys that ISN'T dead is marvel rivals, but she doesn't want to put ALL her eggs in that basket OP doesn't show the followup tweet where she's asking people for any other unique shooters that she could play, new or old.
>>108748949Translators note: She sucks at them even harder than normal fps.
>>108749020Sure? They're not her forte and she's not a fan of them in general so she never bothered to invest in them. She's fine with firefights having the risk of third parties like in Apex but hates the the risk of losing progression permanently. She talked about it yesterday
no fertilization = anger
>>108749152She should try to get into Vox's pants again
>>108742293There is no more pendulum because Doki's career cratered in her own words while Nijisanji is on top
>>108742572>she gives ammo to her antisshe does this on purpose btw
>>108749117>hates the the risk of losing progression permanentlyBut there's no permanent progression to lose in that game except for the expedition. Any and all lost progression can be earned back effortlessly by playing the game, you have to make the choice to go on the expedition to reset your character to zero. She doesn't understand the game.
>>108750928So she's retarded and does retarded things on purpose?
>>108746694Changing her model to one made by the same artist that did Selen's was such a blatant way of painting herself as a forever-victim, I still roll my eyes when I see it
