>>108743944
Well see, now that's actually impressive that they could mobilize that well. The only number that matters is how much members dropped but I guess she wouldn't be acting so defeated if it wasn't bad.

>>108743944
>Holoantis siding with chinks

>>108744049
Don't absolve the Japfags, they're the worst of the bunch in all this because they took the bait and unsubbed to begin with.

>>108744049
Blaming it all on chinks is wrong. Nips are retarded faggots only one level below chinks when they're at their worst.

>>108743944
That's fishy. She was back up at 2.47 a few days ago, then back down to 2.46 and now 2.45 a few days later? Someone is fucking around. And of course the anti angle will be that she botted her subs and youtube removed them.

>>108744231
People are unsubbing, obviously. She went back and forth between 2.46 and 2.47 several times, she has not been 2.47 for quite a long time. The question was always how many people unsubbed and would more keep unsubbing. The Japanese antis have been relentless, so this isn't that surprising but it is disappointing. Two nukes wasn't enough.

>>108743944
One thing for a certain is that hololive has fallen so far that this is practically the only way people can still find enjoyment in it. To vent their frustration, they dig for flaws and hurl complaints at the figures most responsible for preserving the current state of affairs: “management,” “yagoo,” “top holos” and “the cliques.” Instead of engaging with what hololive is actually trying to put out, people fixate on side-angle gossip and meddling speculation: who is on bad terms with whom, how the cliques are supposedly shifting, which new members might join which clique. This kind of warped, voyeuristic engagement is now the only way Hololive fans can enjoy hololive at all.

>>108744297
No, she was back at 2.47 a few days ago. Maybe it was a youtube bug, but I saw it and checked myself because some anti fag was posting it on Twitter and accusing her of botting.

>>108744316
That's a funny way to lie about the fact that they specifically target and hate Miko, the clique thing was forgotten ages ago and nobody ever believed it. Do you know how it's irrefutable that they didn't believe it? They never cared about anyone else that was supposedly in the clique including the leaders, just one random member. They also didn't care that all their criticisms of the one imaginary clique then also applied to the other since their moral high ground was established based on principles that didn't matter which clique you were in but that there was a clique, yet one of them was somehow the good guys.

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>>108744378
youre responding to fucking ai dude

>>108744378
You just have to notice how there is zero clique or party faction attacks recently since Miko is barely streaming/collabing. It was always an attack on Miko to try and isolate her. And guess what, it's working. Because the Japanese are retarded and easy to manipulate when you have an organized campaign.

>>108744500
It also helps that her friends turned out to be more loyal to Cover than her.

>>108744461
Yeah, going back up to 2.47 but suddenly losing 20k in a few days when she's not streaming is stupid. They're just fucking with her subs as another way of attacking. Unironically they probably have a discord group that organizes mass subbing/unsubbing.

>>108744549
But that's the thing, that argument makes sense when she kept see-sawing but dropping to 2.45 is impossible. There has to be normies unsubbing or a massive cull.

>>108744500
Nah, I saw many comments about how Fubuki appears in many comment sections of holomen after the clique rrat blew up. People are keeping an eye on this matter. You need to stop acting like a woman on her period

>>108744496
you're shaming him for talking because he's telling the truth

>>108744378
They didn't care because argument really was "Stop having a bigger sandcastle than me"
Miko stood in no one's way, stood on no one's shoulders, and they hate her for it.

>>108744610
All Fubuki gets is light shitposting. Miko gets attacked. Watch, they will make a big deal out of this collab even though Fubuki has done 2 other collabs with totally different groups.
https://x.com/fubuchandayo/status/2013134424661999721

>>108744610
That has been a criticism of Fubuki for fucking ages and is completely unrelated to the clique shit. It actually proves the point. Everyone would agree the friend group is led by Fubumio because they organize all the collabs and do the wrangling and have the histories (also the "parties" Miko was harassed over were hosted by a member nobody criticizes and attended by many members people claim as the "good guys") but when the Christmas collab was literally on Fubuki's channel, Miko got the hate.

>>108744708
https://x.com/shirakamifubuki/status/2010307629500023171
Same game, 4 members of the "party group" and Pekora? Zero shitposting, no whining about cliques. Slot Miko in for Pekora? I mean just look at the quote tweets, already whining about parties and factions.
https://x.com/fubuchandayo/status/2013134424661999721/quotes

>>108744708
Yeah, because ultimately the action is good in nature. At best they could only call Fubuki a hypocrite or doubt the intention behind that action. How can you make an attack angel out of a good action?
>>108744756
You are seeing it in the wrong way. Miko is the scapegoat because Miko is the one who benefits the most from this setup. The itsumen rat has existed since 2024 and finally evolved into clique rrat. Your power level is still too low, you should dig deeper

>>108744991
How does Miko benefit the most you retard. You freaks are so fucking bizarre.

>>108744316
>Instead of engaging with what hololive is actually trying to put out,
They had 7 graduations with several of them clearly being due to garbage management. Combine that with constant merch shilling and the huge amount of money they are wasting on HoloEarth. Cover is getting more backlash from angry fans and the only sad thing are the idiots blaming talents for the direction of Hololive when it's 100% the fault of management.

what's even the right move here? will they keep harassing Miko over every perceived slight until she gives up or what? I doubt most of these freaks will calm down even if she apologizes
cover needs step up and do something otherwise people will slowly realize this can happen to any talent

>>108745152
The only thing Cover's been getting hate for is not graduating Miko. Her own fans defend them for suspending her.

>>108745178
>what's even the right move here? will they keep harassing Miko over every perceived slight until she gives up or what?
That is their plan, yes. Harass Miko, harass other talents while pretending to be 35P. Try and get Miko to leave for being too much of a burden on others. They fucking spell it out in some tweets, telling Cover to cut her for being a nuisance. It's not very subtle.

>>108745178
There's really only two options. Either she's actually doing great in real-life and all her relationships are only banned publicly but as healthy as ever behind-the-scenes. In which case none of this matters to her. Or she should leave and burn down Hololive behind her. Because if everyone in Hololive is treating her the same behind-the-scenes as they are publicly, they're far worse scum than even the worst antis have claimed in the past.

>>108745277
I know Fubuki will try her damndest to include her in stuff, at the very least

This is such an unprecedented amount of hate we haven't seen since the Chinkout. And Miko didn't even push back against Chinks or anyone like Coco did. I don't really understand it.

Holodrones turning on Miko over this would be beyond depressing. Never oshi a corporation

I don't think Miko did anything wrong other than to use a graduation bait picture for her break post. That was shitty.

>>108745152
HoloEarth should be based on the concept of the old AKB which you let members rotate and perform weekly or even bi-weekly. The problems I can see are that this puts a lot of strain on the girls since they also have to stream, the technology is still not there and the experience provided is still lacking, and the price is also quite high relative to the scale of performance.

>>108745411
You're going to hate her tomorrow.

>>108745480
What's happening?

>>108744549
For JP schizos it's cheap enough to buy 20k shitty sub bots that will be auto culled.

>>108745386
She literally has an attack on them as one of her main streams highlighted to checkout when you go to her channel. That's not where antis started attacking her but it's where she legitimized them to the entire public and lost the support of Cover and the Holomems.

I've always seen rumors floating around but what actually happened this time to cause things?

>>108745513
Again, that narrative worked for 2.46/2.47. It doesn't work for 2.45, they can't retroactively make normal subs into bot accounts.

>>108745536
Haachama, schizoid prime, called out to her brethren and they answered the call.

>>108745223
>>108745277
yeah but what can be realistically done to turn it around? surely cover is not retarded enough to let one of their biggest talents go like this, as >>108745386 said, this is not even a case where every wumao mobilized to bring down the evil japanese woman, it's just a few schizos who swayed public opinion enough

So now it isn't youtube AI culling accounts as usual or people buying bots, no, this particular time it's antis holding power over more than 10k people and deciding to unsub because of their insane rrats, lol.

Another pathetic anti thread trying to gaslight EOP idiots.

>>108745671
You stab yourself with your schizo takes, as it requires they were bots all along.

>>108745594
Didn't that happen like a month or two ago or did something new happen

>>108745533
ah, so it's her fault?

>>108745627
Whatever they're forcing Miko to do tomorrow will reveal their plan. It's gonna suck.

>>108745714
That happened at like the end of November or some shit, then Miko made a direct call to the antis to kick off December in response and it's been a never-ending battle ever since and the antis keep winning because Miko has never been good under pressure and Cover/Hololive sided with the antis.

It is ok. A naked dogeza stream will solve everything

I swear to God if they manage to force Miko to graduate I will personally nuke Japan and China

>>108745533
Wasn't thinking about that, yeah. After years of Cover sitting on their hands, Miko finally decides to address things herself and the result is Cover helping her even less, as seen when she had to put out that tweet addressing the green channel situation when usually that's something Cover is supposed to do. I genuinely hope other talents don't turn on her because she is taking the entire brunt Holo and vtuber antis onto herself for their sake.

>>108745496
She's coming back tomorrow, and from how straight forward her tweet is, it feels like it's gonna be an stream addressing the situation/apologizing, so she might use another graduation-like thumbnail. Not that she's going to graduate (at least not yet)

>>108746715
I feel like she's doing an apology/explanation stream or tweet once or twice every month now.

>>108746287
I swear to God if they manage to force Miko to graduate I will personally jerk my dick into a celebratory goon coma.

>>108746777
you don't even have a dick

>>108746791
y u so interested in it bb? ;^)

>>108746754
And always for complete inane bullshit because the Japanese fanbase is turbo retarded

>>108746754
It was really only the one after the Haachama stream and now this green channel situation. The Haachama one because she didn't appreciate people using Haachama to cause so much drama, and this time because, whether it was a legit issue or not, it got blown way, way out of proportion.

>>108746607
We know they publicly distance themselves, the only question is what they do privately. It's obvious they all know they weren't allowed to acknowledge her break because even the young and naive members who would definitely have tweeted at her in response if Cover hadn't told them not to have steered clear.

How till miko be able to afford anything now? She's got barley any subs left

>>108746822
It wasn't a legitimate issue and stop pretending you think it might have been. The doujin in the fridge wasn't legitimate either.

>>108746947
Members are her biggest source of income, this current sub-controversy started with out-of-line members getting punished. We have no way to measure how many members she lost. Only long-term member counts on streams going forward can give an idea.

>>108746919
>publicly distancing
You're a delusional schizo who's been btfo'd everytime you mentioned this narrative in the miko split.

>>108747004
Jesus christ it's worst than we initially thought... she'll be homeless within a week at this rate

>>108743944
This wouldn'y have happened if she just learned english and pandered to an actually worthwhile fanbase.

>>108747004
>this current sub-controversy started with out-of-line members getting punished
I haven't been following this at all but I thought it was just shit from her repeating horse racing shit that required a subscription.

>>108747047
You'll never be able to gaslight people into believing Miko never had any friends. They were a prominent aspect of her content.

>>108747113
That was the first thing they push, but everyone knows it’s a retarded and unprovable angle (because no one has Green Channel VOD) so they moved the goalpost to “she’s not giving members face!”

>>108747168
>“she’s not giving members face!”
What the fuck does this even mean?

>>108747113
Nobody cares about that, the issue that she had to make a tweet responding to was about members who superchatted about anti narratives getting their chats deleted and presumably some of them getting banned. That's why superchats were then turned off and there's no way they'll be turned back on tomorrow. So who knows when that will be resolved.

>>108746975
Obviously I don't think it is, but it doesn't change the fact that antis were able to blow it way out of proportion even IF it were an actual issue

>>108747253
Common anti W.

>>108747220
>People superchatted negative things and got consequences
People are actually mentally retarded thinking they can harass people without repercussions

>>108747190
It’s a chink webnovel meme…

cover needs to hire people to moderate chats and ban retards. incels have gotten too comfortable spewing negative shit in chats

>>108747296
If it was antis pretending to be worried then they obviously deserved the deletion. If it was actual worried fans then they also deserve the deletion because superchats are not there for you to backseat the streamer and tell them if you think they did something wrong, send Cover an inquiry if you really think that's the case. Guess what happens when you point out problems with superchats? You also point it out to antis and shit stirrers.

>>108747296
>>108747383
Nobody (outside the Eastern world) thinks the superchatters were good guys but the original one had a year-long membership so it looks bad. I mean technically it's the same thing people give HoloEN's shit for in terms of "betraying fans", it's just in this case Westerners think the fan was retarded because we don't ordinarily coddle that type of autism.

>>108747375
They literally just made a big deal about their big moderation team in a whole ass article like a month or so ago. But 70 moderators only work on one channel.

>>108747375
That was (allegedly) part of the problem. She said in the tweet that she did not personally delete or ban anything and it was the Cover moderators but that she would take responsibility. Cover does do some enforcing, it's just completely random and unhelpful because it makes them look worse all the other times. Like they took down the anti video that slandered Pekora but left all the Miko ones up and somehow Miko was the one at fault for that in the mind of the retarded Japanese.

>>108743944
thanks for the update I guess?

>>108745729
It's not that at all. Miko has incredibly toxic antis for years, from way before what happened. Chama also said she cried because she was so happy that Miko wrote her the month before. Everything has been twisted by toxic people and taken totally out of perspective.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdsO8t2FnMI

Anti probably preparing bot for spam chat, mass bomb dislike and negative comments

>>108747510
I don’t know if it’s malicious or incompetent, but the moderator allegedly deleted the superchat but left the spam on her last 3 streams alone. Not to mention the trolls on her waiting room chat for the last several years.
The only time they worked on Miko’s stream, they made things worse and fucked off.

>>108747553
>Miko has incredibly toxic antis for years
And several of them are hololive members.

>>108747553
The fact that this Haachama thing is what kicked off this massive hate campaign against Miko is such a cruel joke. Miko has always loved Haachama and has been glad to give her attention, Haachama fucking wrote her a love song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDJtcmSbyUA

>>108745437
The streaming itself already does the old AKB "Idols you can meet and interact with daily" albeit they need to fill the dead times better like AKB did with it's physical locations.
Rather the purpose of HoloEarth should have been for the other aspect of Idolfaggery, gachikoi wars. You will notice that idolfags just love to waste time and money on to organize for big loud projects for their oshi, things like doing wotagei, buying adspace on really expensive billboards, ita-cars and shrines, etc. They also love fighting with other fanbases to be the most dedicated, which can easily devolve into shitposting in imageboards or buying up all the tickets to a concert. It's honestly a lot like sports fans where team rivalry is part of the fun, but can easily be filled with shitters.
HoloEarth could have been a great way to have gachikoi factions face off against each other to be the most dedicated fans of their oshi in a shitty MMO in a productive manner that makes money.

>>108747632
I'm talking about a JP translated Note I saw from 2024. It was ugly. Misunderstandings happen, it happened to Chammers and Matsuri. They reconciled. People make mistakes, they can hurt each other, they can feel wounded. But all this shit happening doesn't seem like it's part of just normal life. It's something else.
>more context on that song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKo29OzkLzQ

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>>108747562
at that moment in the hololive moderators discord:
>oh no! that's bad news!
>what happened?
>frieren season 2 will have only 10 episodes
>*gasp*

>>108743944
Somebody give me a quick rundown.

>>108747449
Reminds me of that one time mori got a superchat from a retard warning her not to say shekels because it's offensive to some groups

>>108747819
Bug men

>>108747819
It's actually just this -> >>108747852
She did a stream watching a horse race on a pay to view channel and repeated something the announcer said. Then "peopl" crashed out on her because it's "illegal" to share things that are said in a paid stream.

>>108747819
jp antis winning
they magnificently uses the dissatisfaction some holofags have with management (graduations among other things) to side with them by positioning her as management's pet and peddles those retards that Miko is bad because of delusional conspiracies between her, other talents and management.

JP autism is truly on a different level, EN drama is just basic shit like homo collabs or them not streaming. Either way I don't really give a fuck because its about time Miko got what was coming to her, Pekora will finally get justice and be the undoubted #1 Holo

>>108747924
"illegal" here means it's not actually illegal for the 80 IQ anons out there btw

I hope Gamers is next. Remember when Mio mentioned that an EN member tried to contact her privately about some issues with EN management? Little did we know that said EN member chose Mio because Mio was the management itself (the Haachama incident exposed this fact) and Gamers have enormous influence. Le clique rrat is real. Said EN was Gura who was then wrestling with the decision of whether to graduate or not btw.

>>108748050
Whoever is next, I hope they and their fans remember how Miko was treated by Cover and the Holo audience when the antis and chinks want them gone.

>>108748050
You rats have already been campaigning for Korone to get terminated but your script keeps messing up on whether or not she's a hero or villain.

>>108747819
Big channel + huge audience + no moderators (or worse, moderators chosen by people outside the streamer's control).

>>108748050
>the concernschizo was a disgruntled chumbud all along
Now that I think about it this schizo was missing from the miko split the other day when saba streamed

>>108748050
Imagine hating Gamers of all the people in Hololive, completely deranged behaviour

>>108747819
miko had a woman moment after a chatter raised a concern

>>108748212
Asking a JP member for career advice is the kind of thing that SHOULD happen. Isn't the NDA shit where Holomems can't rely on each other much, much worse?

>Almost 10 talents leave Hololive in the past year
>Even for those that remain and bootlicked management, they still are expressing concerns
>Haachama seemingly about to be terminated after Fes
>Other Holomems have been taking "breaks" out of nowhere
What the actual fuck is happening, did going public really fuck things up this much my god

>>108748354
Cover absolutely sucks ass, but let's not try to rewrite history and pretend even 25% of the members who left were a loss. In a properly run company they would have been fired rather than allowed to leave with dignity.

>>108748354
>almost 10
Why can't you just say the exact number?

It all started with Shinove leaving

>>108743944
anon its fucking if you get like 1 below the round number it goes down like that, how stupid are you

>>108749222
Retard. That was the argument when she dropped the first time, this is an additional 10K on that one which requires MORE than 10K subs lost.

>>108747949
>positioning her as management's pet
Isn't she? The amount of anonymous reports we see claim the she is the clear management favorite, and that Fubuki and Mio have way more power than a talent should are way too many.
How else do you explain that Miko gets to do absolutely any and every project she wants to, when others get EVERYTHING refused straight away? I don't believe this is just down to the channel size either.

>>108748725
"almost 10" sounds bigger than 6 (Shion, Kanata, Chloe, Mumei, Ao)

>>108749269
>How else do you explain that Miko gets to do absolutely any and every project she wants to
You are talking out of your fucking ass. You're one of the easily manipulated retards that antis fucking love.

>>108749295
It also makes no sense to combine branches. Nobody counts HoloCN, nobody would count HoloID. The entire EN complaints were that they had different management with their own issues, same with Dev_is. It makes no sense to then pretend they are all the same. It also makes all the girls look like idiots when you combine them since their issues contradicted each other unless you separate them by branch and suddenly their logic makes more sense from their perspective, even if they could still be wrong.

>>108749269
You are not as retarded as you pretend to be. She literally gets shot down constantly so management can fellate your oshi instead.

>>108749342
Anon, she got to sleep in their multi billion yen 3D studio ON stream while constantly using the resources in the process, just for a solo stream.
You really think they'd let Akirose do that? Please.

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>>108743944
>still giving a shit about subs count
When you're the most watched female streamer averaging 40k in every stream and even beating twitch hoes, subs count is meaningless lmao plus Miko never had that much subs in the first place, but people actually watch her, unlike some who gets a lot of subs but no one watches them lol

>>108749451
It was literally just her and her manager in there. What resources? The entire reason why she was allowed to do that was because she was just gonna sleep on the floor and there was no need for other staff overnight. Who knows if they'd let Aki do it, Miko was probably the first person to ask to sleep on the studio floor.

>>108749295
Ao did not leave.

>>108749529
You think constant 3D mocap for that long is cheap? That electricity is free? Energy costs are really fucking high in Tokyo.
Miko gets the favoritism to do what others would never be allowed to do, and that's a fact.

>>108749590
She didn't? Honestly I just went to the hololive wiki page and named everyone in grey that left within 365 days (except gura because I forgot)
In that case it's only 5.

>>108749621
If you're going to make up a bunch of clownish lies, don't immediatley backpedal the second someone with a brain bumps into you.

>>108749621
Cover fucking owns the mocap shit, there is no charge for Miko using it. She wasn't even wearing a mocap suit, she was in a smaller booth and had a few trackers on her at best. And electricity costs, really? How much money do you think Miko's stream made?

>>108749622
Conspiracy theorists believe she was fired.

>>108749451
>>108749621
NTA you know that she did that in the Cover's 3D self-booth studio that they use for simple 3D streams, which has simple mocap set, NOT in the actual cover 3D Studio that they usually use for big scale 3D streams like 3D live/concert you retarded dumbfuck. And even then she still couldn't use Cover's studio and could only use the outside studio for the Christmas 3D live after that 25h stream. meanwhile pekhoera actually got to do MULTIPLE 3D streams in the studio, she got BOTH anniversary live and birthday live, gen live, janken tourney etc last year, those actually use the expensive Cover studio dumbass

>>108749697
Uh oh the cover intern is angry

>>108749622
She was forced out because she did not want to continue with Regloss.

>>108749694
If she wasn't fired, please explain what her reason for leaving was.

>>108749269
>How else do you explain that Miko gets to do absolutely any and every project she wants to
She doesn't exist in a vacuum. Management might see her as a marketable asset, which is a lot different than her 'doing anything she wants'. Look at the interviews with Cover's senior management. I really don't see 50 year old career execs letting a vtuber set their agenda.
https://coveredge.cover-corp.com/en/list/category/corporate

>>108749772
>she was fired because she quit
>she didn't leave, she was fired
???

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>>108749759
chinkfaggy mad as fuck no one fell for your anti agenda lmao we all know that pekhora is the one who's always getting preferential treatment from management (for example she got to do the aforementioned 3D streams in the studio several times last year) lmao, also reminder Miko still doesn't have a life-size statue eventhough she's the company's most watched streamer, meanwhile pekhora's management boyfriend personally gave her one kek

>>108749772
>If she wasn't fired, please explain what her reason for leaving was.
NTA but probably the same reason she left the last 8 idol groups she joined.
>She was forced out
Was she forced out in every other idol group she ditched?
C'mon, man. I have nothing against her leaving, but you'll have a hard time convincing anybody that this is entirely Cover's fault.

>>108749621
if tourists are coming by wondering whats up, this right here. let this demonstrate the absolute retardation of the people harping on these events. the cost of electricity for a few hours of a stationary camera. the fact this level of reach is needed shows how lacking in good faith and but filled to the brim with retardation the attackers are

>>108749813
She didn't quit.
>probably the same reason she left the last 8 idol groups she joined.
So, pretending to be sick to get out of obligations and then getting kicked out? She never left any of them on her own accord.
>Was she forced out in every other idol group she ditched?
Yes she was. You clearly have no fucking idea what actually happened and just see people posting the list while saying "SHE QUIT".
>you'll have a hard time convincing anybody that this is entirely Cover's fault.
The fuck? It's not Cover's fault at all and you're the one on the side that's blaming Cover for being SOOO BAAAD that everyone leaves. Kill yourself, retard.

>>108749773
>I really don't see 50 year old career execs letting a vtuber set their agenda.

I mean, I absolutely do see that happening if one of these 50 year old career execs has a favorite, who just so happens to be an attractive woman 20 years younger than him. Women can ruin any company

>>108749913
Forgot to quote >>108749844

>>108749491
one requires clicking a button once
and the other requires active daily participation
it's easy to see what the important metric is

>>108749844
>Was she forced out in every other idol group she ditched?
I read elsewhere that might not be the case, some of those agencies folded or something. A lot of heat Ao gets seems unjustified. It just doesn't get challenged much as she seems to lack much presence in an EN audience.

>>108746777
I hope your mom gets in your room while you do that and disowns you

>>108749928
That's very, very different anon. That's full-on industry scandal.

>>108748050
choke on your own tofu dreg

>>108749972
>some of those agencies folded or something.
That's just false. They all continued without her.
>A lot of heat Ao gets seems unjustified.
Not at all. She joined Regloss knowing what she was signing up for and then tried ditching the group without leaving hololive. She did the same thing with her last vtuber group.
Don't tell me you believe she's actually suffering from some kind of illness?

This thread really opened my eyes. We need to start going after "friend" and the rest of gamers. They've had it too good for far too long.

>>108750071
I found her old clipper channel, I saw her bicycling stream, her critics seem to consistently mischaracterize her. Sorry but you will need to bring receipts or I won't believe you. I've seen too much bullshit in relation to her and vtubing unfortunately has an issue with antis in general. I don't mind playfully ripping on chuubas but there are some truly ugly people attracted to vtubing as well. And lying certainly isn't beneath them.

>>108750085
We need to go after pekhora for being a management cocksucking whore

>>108750159
No matter how many clips you watch you can't claim that she wasn't shitting on her genmates and trying to get out of obligations by pretending to be sick.
She said she had not seen them in a long time in February when the rest of them were having lessongs together all week long.
Ao, her fans and her defenders are scum.

>>108750207
It's all under NDA, both her and the company are respecting it, and so are the other talents. So what real information do you actually have. None. It's an information black hole. So how did you even reach that conclusion. This is what I mean. You can call names but you can't even defend your reasoning. It's embarrassing.

>>108749590
Ao "graduated" because pekhora was feeling jealous and couldnt leech Marine because she only wants to do stuff with Ao, see after Ao graduated pekhora is back leeching Marine full time now lmao pekhora could easily graduate someone because she has management boyfriend

>>108750285
>It's all under NDA
>It's an information black hole.
Her making it obvious she wasn't going to lessons with her genmates while treating them like shit isn't under NDA.
She also wasn't actually sick because last week she said she has had a part time job for a year.
This "information black hole" is just your unwillingness to accept any information that breaks your narrative.

>>108750294
Blow your brains out 53p

>>108749841
Oh no, the cover intern is even angrier, I'm scared !

>>108750400
You can't say "it's obvious" and then offer no real information. All we really know for sure is that Hololive didn't work out for her and she left. If you know something that you can prove, say it. You're welcome to your conclusion but I still don't see how you got there.

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>>108749269
Ogey
Many miko project get approved
Example everyone nigga, which one?

>>108749269
A fucking brown, of course.

>>108750529
>You can't say "it's obvious" and then offer no real information
She literally said she had not seen Regloss in a long time while the rest were meeting up on most days of the week, you fucking retard.
>All we really know for sure is that Hololive didn't work out for her and she left
But you don't know that. She said she will not graduate and will come back. She even updated her free chat saying she's asking to come back a month before she was kicked out, and Marine said she's doing fine. If she wanted to leave all along why did she say she didn't? She didn't even give a reason in her final message.

>>108750424
lmao what I said is the truth cuckfaggy, while Ao was on hiatus, pekhora rampantly started to spam collabs with Marine again lol even did pekomari taiso everyday (also 3D streams in the studio by the way) for several weeks to maximize the leeching kek

>>108744231
She probably did bot her subs she's a corpo vtuber most of them are botted

>>108750732
What you said is a hallucination caused by the rotten pagpag you had for breakfast.

>>108750518
Uh oh chinkfaggy is even angrier pekhora was exposed as a management cum dumpster

>>108750769
pekomari taiso (3D streams in the studio every day for several weeks) suddenly didnt happen now huh cuckfaggy? now who's having hallucinations? eating pagpag again noupagpag? lmao

>>108750773
Angrier angry scary !

>>108750732
>pekomari taiso everyday (also 3D streams in the studio by the way)

All the pekomari taisou was done at home, with whatever 3D equipment the holos had available (which is also why it was pure jank kino at times)

>>108748050
I do know mio is a management bitch like fubu because her fortune telling is definitely not just fortune telling, it's insider knowledge

>>108750838
Mio is a real witch anon, this is known.

This unironically seems like the JP version of the Selen shock. Obviously I doubt it will end in Hololive JP entering life support, but the fact that whatever is triggering the JP fans seems incomprehensible to the EN sphere seems familiar. From what I can tell it started as the dumb horse stream thing, and the fallout from that snowballed into certain interactions with the fans that got weaponised, fairly or unfairly.

>>108744049
>>108744089
>>108744139
Why are you even blaming zhangs for this? They hated Coco, not Miko.

>>108750695
>If she wanted to leave all along why did she say she didn't?
Because talent signs NDAs, it's not professional to break them, it's not legal, it's not JP culture, and you don't burn bridges? This isn't some kind of gotcha. You don't have the slightest ability to think critically. Why are you making sweeping conclusions off essentially no real information?

>>108750827
>at home
>several holos (as guests) in a stream (home set couldn't handle several models at once in a stream)
lmao nice try, they did it in the studio lol, they didn't use mocapi for it, they use studio mocap set

I don't hate Miko, I would have preferred the chinks to attack FBK because she's the one who obviously has too much power and is a corporate dick-sucking hag.
FBK is enemy.

>>108750873
nah it's just jp gundou but maybe not termination worthy, just maybe hiatus or suspension at worst. the selen situation that might happen is chama

>>108750890
Because several nousagi Miko-anti on twitter got exposed as zhangs, they don't even care about the horse shit anymore they just want to attack Miko

Pekora will masturbate intensely until she faints if Miko graduates this year

>>108750941
Not talking about the seriousness of it all. Selen was obviously much more serious in the terms of what happened, but the language barrier and the incomprehensible rrats from Japan must have been how the elevens felt.

I feel a bit bad for Chama though. I've only watched a summary of the livestream, but it seems like she's just poorly socialised, partially due to the streaming career. I do think Cover bears some responsibility for entering her into entertainment so early without proper support, but I don't agree with the way she's chosen to lash out either.

>>108750941
lmao this is not even gundou shit, Miko did nothing wrong and even didn't break sny website TOS, chinkfaggys just want to attack Miko because she mogged their chink queen pekhora hard last year kek

pekomikoschizo chinkbot anti is here

>>108750941
>the selen situation that might happen is chama
Nah if chama was at nijien, she would have already been terminated and they would have released a 40 page google doki going into exhaustive detail on everything that she did to make "management" hate her and terminate her.

>>108750914
>Because talent signs NDAs
Talking about reasons for leaving is not under NDA. They ALL do it. She is the only one so far to not have done so.
>it's not professional to break them
You know what's not professional? Refusing to fulfill your obligations like Ao.
>you don't burn bridges
You can't seriously be saying this about the person who hasn't been contacted by a single hololive member not named Marine since she was kicked out.
>You don't have the slightest ability to think critically.
That would be you who keeps ignoring all of the information and then says "uhhhhh information black hole NDA"
>Why are you making sweeping conclusions off essentially no real information?
How is saying "Ao did not meet Regloss for months" based on Ao literally saying so a "sweeping conclusion off essentially no real information"? Retard.

>Miko gets killed by chinks
>They are going against Fubuki next
>People are realizing that Suisei is a real bitch and wasn't just a gig
>Pekora fell off
>Marine doesn't care about Holo anymore

It's the end of Hololive

>>108750793
>pekomari taiso (3D streams in the studio every day for several weeks)
So you're admitting to eating rotten pagpag.

>>108750991
She's also been managed terribly. Her content has always been borderline avant-garde, and Cover never managed to capitalize on her strengths. Even worse, she's internalized they don't really want her ("failed product") and she's been banging her head off every wall possible to reinvent herself. I understand why she imploded, she's been getting the oidashibeya when she invested most of her youth in Hololive. That kind of crack-up comes when you realize you invested in people who will never give you what you need. It's fucking ugly. But it's not wrong. It's also not Selen material, a very common truth of our world. Your job is not your family and often it's not even your friend. It will sound cliche. But it's really all just part of growing up.

>>108751194
noupagpag you're clearly the one having hallucinations from eating rotten pagpag, those taiso thing was done in the studio everyday for several weeks lol now try to rebut any of this >>108750927

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pekhora never beating the management cocksucker allegations

>>108747924
Shit wasn't this a few weeks ago? People still bitching about it?

>>108751293
>35pag doesn't know what VR is
lmao

>>108751406
they didn't use vr lol they used mocap set in the studio noupagpag making shit up again lmao

>>108751178
What is usually under an NDA:
>Internal business practices
>Contract terms (money, duration, penalties)
>Internal disputes, negotiations, or investigations
>Trade secrets or unreleased projects
>Private information about staff or other artists
That's not covering other reasons to hold information:
>Non-disparagement clauses
>Prevent the idol from criticizing or portraying the company negatively
>Settlement agreements
>Image & brand control
>Industry pressure (unwritten rules)
No offense but this isn't exactly a secret yeah? Maybe just to you.

>>108751287
I can definitely sympathise with her situation. Obviously we don't know the full picture, but I think your take seems pretty accurate. I also want to add that she seems to have put a lot of her self-worth in being a Hololive member, and part of the rant was about giving that up and letting go. I personally think that she did love the career, but the restrictions (endless checklists according to her) and social isolation (she reached out to kson for a reason) eventually got to her.
I really do wish the best for her. Some of her streams are my favorite in Hololive history. However it works out, I hope she manages to find peace.

>>108749491
This is the reason chinkfaggys are seething hard at Miko this year

>>108751442
Yes they did 35pag

Who tf cares Subaru is better than Pekora or Miko anyways

>>108751575
>t. loud = funny faggot

>>108751450
So now you're just talking past the point and ignoring everything because you got completely destroyed.

Why are you guys talking about chinks? I thought the only people who care about piracy are japs.

>>108751574
no they didn't noupagpag lmao they done that at the studio kek

>>108751619
ksonfags made them the go to boogeyman in situations where you want to attack other holos while pretending to be entirely justified.

>>108751674
Yes they did, 35pag.
>they done that
You can't even speak english

>>108751619
>>108751693
https://x.com/i/status/2009300962544861588
https://x.com/i/status/2009295463217037417
Several nousagi Miko-anti got exposed as chinks, r
also reminder that those chinks use Japan VPN to falseflag as Japanese because they can't access twitter in China without VPN

>>108751619
It's a bunch of antis doing whatever they can to shit on Miko and gaslight people into joining their bullshit, there's no reason or logic to it just hate.

>>108751786
And here's one of the SEA keksonfags who do this constantly.

>>108751617
I asked you for information. You don't have anything beyond "she didn't fulfill her duties". You zero context about why. You have zero understanding about why NDAs prohibit exactly the information you need to supply that context. That's where we're at. If you wanted to convince me of anything -- well, you didn't exactly destroy anything but your own credibility. I still don't know what happened. And I never said I did.

>>108751727
No they didn't noupagpag, it was done at the studio not at home because they even got a special background set for it dumbass

>>108751813
I'm not a ksonfag I just hate chinks, also stop deflecting because you and your chink kind literally got exposed as chinks posting anti stuff and attacking Miko

>>108751828
She was at home streaming while saying she has not met Regloss in ages. How are you still denying that this happened?
NDA did not prevent any other holo from shitting all over Cover, but somehow Ao wasn't allowed to say anything.
>I still don't know what happened. And I never said I did.
You said she quit "probably for the same reason she left the last 8 idol groups she joined." while not knowing anything about what you just brought up.

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>>108749491
#1 vtuber too.

>>108751862
Yes they did, 35pag. It's honestly hilarious how idiotic you're making all 35paggies look.

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Ao is innocent

>>108751982
dumbfuck noupagpag it wasn't done with vr it was with mocap at the studio lmao pm they even stated it in those taiso streams, now go back eating your pagpag cuck

>>108747593
>several
It's just one.

I read way too many posts trying to figure out what all the commotion is about to come up empty handed like I have so it seems clear that it is the work of schizo antis. Stay strong Miko!

>>108752057
>it wasn't done with vr
Yes it was, 35pag.
>they even stated it in those taiso streams
Post a timestamped link. If you fail to do so in 10 minutes you admit that it was done in VR.

>>108752189
are you retarded noupagpag their movement was too fluid to be vr, and reminder Matsuri also done it at the studio for her holomen taiso (the idea that pekhora shamelessly stole lmao)

>>108752229
And just like like that you admitted that it was VR
>their movement was too fluid to be vr
Why pretend like you even watched it?
>Matsuri also done it
Why can't you speak english?

>>108751357
damn pighoera really got a lot of 3D streams in the studio, that's not even including her 3D self booth streams like exploding watermelon streams with rubber bands that she did several times (an idea that she stole from Haachama who did it first in hololive)

>>108752278
stop deflecting noupaggi it was done at the studio lmao

>>108752307
>that's not even including her 3D self booth streams
Two of those are that

>>108751960
I've only seen her old clip channel, which made it pretty obvious to me she didn't choose the Ikeman routine at Hololive out of some kind of political axe to grind. She's literally doing fan service comedy in a pool. You're welcome to run down her history at those 8 idol groups. I'm just saying I've seen bad takes about her before.
>context
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFz1_PmPVzs

>>108752336
It's too late now, 35pag. You already admitted that it wasn't by not posting the proof.

>>108745627
>it's just a few schizos who swayed public opinion enough
Anon please... are you pretending to be retarded? No one got swayed. It's just a few antis spamming posts and botting them.

>>108752391
The proof is in the stream noupagpag lmao streaming in the studio for several weeks leeching Marine and other holos and still couldn't beat Miko in watch hours last year lmao

>>108745627
Bring back Rushia. I'm not joking.
She can be the lightning rod for antis while having much greater mental fortitude than Miko. Then they can keep Miko and most people are happy

>>108752383
>she didn't choose the Ikeman routine at Hololive out of some kind of political axe to grind.
Yeah, she just chose it because that's how she was IRL at that point in time.
>You're welcome to run down her history at those 8 idol groups.
Fired from one of them and went on hiatus for health reasons in most of them before getting moved to a different unit, going solo or just being forced to quit. They're not even all idol groups.

>>108743944
Those japs really got their panties in a twist cuz she leaked some ppv shit?

>>108752450
>The proof is in the stream
You said they said it's being done at the studio, but you somehow cannot prove that they actually said that. You're admitting that they are actually using VRchat.

>>108748578
Aqua, Shion, Kanata, A-chan, that's already more than 25%. In a properly run company they would have been at the front stage, not forced to graduate.

>>108752526
they didn't use vrchat because they have special background for it also it's too fluid when they dance for it to be vr

>>108752583
holy shit 35pags really are retarded and do not know what VRchat is

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i remember...

>>108752519
>japs
chinks >>108751786

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>>108743944
Justice for Haachama

>>108752500
>she just chose it because that's how she was IRL at that point in time
I really feel this more a case of westerners not getting that JP is simply a different culture. I also think you're one of them. Her entire character at Hololive was tongue in cheek, look at that incredibly goofy "bicycling karaoke", it's setting up the cool Ikeman trope to knock it down. This is vtubing, anon. You've never heard of kayfabe? Look at the JP comments roasting her, they get the joke. You don't.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oB7CwpOfGc8
>They're not even all idol groups
Look. You obviously aren't trustworthy, so I'm not just going to take your word for it. You need to prove you're credible. I think it's pretty likely you're just repeating things you heard elsewhere with zero critical filter of your own. I don't trust everything I hear. Do you?

>>108752611
noupagpag still deflecting hard lmao pekhora leeching Marine for weeks streaming at the studio and still couldn't beat Miko in watch hours last year kek pathetic

>>108752637
yeah justice for Haachama because pekhora
>steals the "strongest idol" moniker from Haachama
>the ONLY holo to ever overlaps BOTH Haachama's birthday live and new outfit reveal
>copies Haachama's exploding watermelon with rubber bands idea, in hololive Haachama did it first years ago
>only collabs with Haachama right after she comes back from her hiatus and then stops interacting with Haachama, Haachama says that certain person only uses her to get big numbers then never interact with her after that
>gets to do 3D streams repeatedly in the studio and always gets to host events everytime she wants to, Haachama complains that only certain person could use the studio several times and her projects even gets canceled by management
>being likened as Draco Malfoy (a known bully in Harry Potter movies/books) by Haachama (who likened herself as Harry Potter)
This is why Haachama had a mental breakdown and is now on hiatus (being suspended by pekhora's management boyfriend) again

>>108752646
>I really feel this more a case of westerners not getting that JP is simply a different culture. I also think you're one of them.
The fuck are you even saying? Her tiktok was full of her dressing like a guy with her hair dyed blue before hololive.
>Ikeman
Ok, you do not get to talk like you know anything when you can't even write this one thing correctly.
>You've never heard of kayfabe? Look at the JP comments roasting her, they get the joke.
If roasting her was the result she wanted she wouldn't constantly try to play the victim when holos do it to her. She would go on her solo streams and talk about how horrible everyone is being towards her. This is why she latched onto Marine so hard, because she wouldn't roast her after the guilt tripping.

>>108752662
So you admit that you're a brain damaged SEA 35pag who doesn't know what VRchat is and that pekomari taisou never used the studio for the streams.

I just mis-clicked and before I go to /vr/ just know that v-tumors are a mistake and men who are in "parasocial" relationships are goddamn pathetic losers and incels are less retarded by a magnitude just because they don't spend thousands of dollars chasing delusions. Paying people to play games instead of playing them yourself. THE FUCK?! Even the goddamn porn is cursed because the girls are always as mentally ill as their audience assuming they're even girls and not gross genetic failure trannies!

>>108752646
>I think it's pretty likely you're just repeating things you heard elsewhere with zero critical filter of your own.
But that's you, who keeps saying "8 idol groups" just because you saw that posted on /vt/.

>>108752791
retarded dumbfuck noupagpag it was done at the studio lmao even Matsuri holomen taisou was done at the studio

>>108752849
It wasn't done at the studio, 35pag. Why not link the proof of them saying that it's done at the studio?

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>>108752791
you don't need to argue with that schizo, no one takes him seriously because he's clearly deranged

>>108752706
Miko TOLD you not to do this.
>I know this should already be obvious to everyone, but I’ll say it again clearly: Please stop slander and harassment.
>There are also people who spread things with bad intentions, who pretend to be fans, or who attack other talents just to elevate their own favorites.
>Please don’t hurt people over information that may not even be true.
>So please, stop using her situation to attack others.
>Once again -- what I want from fans isn’t to attack others or create enemies, but to enjoy supporting together in a positive way. That’s what makes me happiest.
>To keep this place something we can love, and continue loving, I ask for everyone’s cooperation.

>their movement was too fluid to be vr
https://youtu.be/sqmS_URzR0E?t=470

>>108752897
He proudly represents all 35p of this board and they don't seem to reject him.

>>108752862
why would I link pekhora channel here it was at the studio noupagpag you're just deflecting because pekhora lost lmao pathetic noupagpag
>>108752902
Nothing that I said about pekhora there is a slander, all the truth and actually happened and can be verified easily

>>108753013
You just admitted again that it wasn't done at the studio. Thanks for playing, 35paggy. Don't try again.

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Reminder to ignore the schizos who uses the words pekhora, noupagi, 53p, 35pag, pekhoera inbetween spastic broken english. Notice they both always appear together.
It's a samefag nijinigger trying to instigate, let anons know when you see him and ignore.

>>108753009
He's a samefag and I clearly just told people to reject in the post you're replying to.

>>108752767
This exactly what I mean. Dying your hair doesn't necessarily carry the same connotations in JP as it does in the west. But you can believe what you want, anon. I think we've both said our piece.

>>108753063
How can he be a samefag when I'm him according to you?

>>108752980
yes and notice that it also has special background stage, none of actual hololive vrchat stream have special background stage meaning it was done at the studio
>>108753035
noupagpag it was done at the studio lmao you're just deflecting hard because pighoera got to use the studio the most last year thanks to her management boyfriendS lmao cocksucking whore

>>108753013
Miko would be ashamed you call yourself a 35p. And the way you simply disrespect her feelings and her courage to speak out against such hateful toxicity, you're not.

>>108753088
The fuck are you on about? Wait, are you putting words into my mouth like the kind of massive retard you are and acting like I said her dying her hair is political?
Please kill yourself right now.

>>108753097
Sorry for the confusion, I was replying to you to tell you that person is a samefag. It wasn't say he's you.

funny how this noufaggy always camping on a Miko-anti thread to shit on Miko

>>108753102
>VRchat running and jumping animations are "fluid movement" to 35pags
lmao

>>108753149
But I am him according to you because I'm the one replying. The truth is there's no samefag and just this retard getting humiliated by me.

>>108753144
Why don't you learn to talk like an adult and not think like a child. I'm still waiting on that information, anon. Your meltdown isn't a substitute.
>retard
>kill yourself
>waah
>waaaah
>WAAAAAAAAH
Great argument

>>108753214
So I was right. It's time to stop posting, faggot.

>>108753192
is this not fluid according to you noupagpag? lmao it was done at the studio stop embarrassing yourself noupaggy 8X8yGxvENyc

>>108753265
Why can't you post an actual link, 35paggy?

>>108753300
Because I don't want to post actual link to any pehora videos noupagpag, now stop embarrassing yourself noupaggy it was done at the studio

>>108753238
*shrug*
Just bring some real information next time instead of a tantrum. Or admit you don't really have any, you can speculate but be honest it's a rrat. It's your life. Thinking people will simply trust any speculation you make on the internet, and getting offended when they don't, is delusional. If that's how you want to be seen, who am I to stop you. Add yourself to the pile. Not the first one I've seen.

>>108753362
You just posted a video code which will result views, brain damaged 35paggy lmao

>>108753407
You got all the relevant information, which was that Ao stopped doing her Regloss duties. You can't deny this.

>>108747318
That doesn't explain anything.

>>108748725
8 including Nodoka.

I think Ao is cute
I think Pekora is funny
I think Miko is kind
And I think schizos here are retards

>>108753497
Nodoka was not a talent.

>>108753416
And I didn't post and watch it through youtube therefore I didn't give her any views lmao also now you're just moving the goalpost noupaggy it was done at the studie

>>108746287
You will cry in the coner of your room lol, don't kid yourself

>(3D streams in the studio every day for several weeks)
>links a music video
???

>>108753547
Doesn't matter, 35paggy. You posted the video code for someone else to watch, which means your actions lead to Pekora getting views. They didn't stream from the studio and you have not formally conceded that.
You truly are the smartest 35pag.

>>108747449
>the original one had a year-long membership so it looks bad
So people can get away with being idiots because they have some special badge? This is just elitism that shields anyone from criticisms.

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I really think Nousagis are asshole this.
It's ok to unlike Miko or feel rivalry with her but pretending to be Heimins and want to drag them in PekoMiko wars is unacceptable behaviour .

Last Heimin thread is racism Nousagi called other Heimin indoggy, want Heimins hate 35p and cause drama shit to the point of unusable.

Nousagis become the cancer of Hololive.
And I am PekoMikofag in the past.

>>108753673
You're an indonesian kshart. Stop pretending.

>>108753553
>3d streams
true
>In the studio
true
>Several weeks
true
you just can't handle the truth noupagy
>>108753611
and I still didn't give her any views also they streamed at the studio using the studio tech lmao noupaggy, I accept your concession, take your L and eat your pagpag noupagpag

>>108753522
If we include A-chan, we include A-chan successors too.

>>108752706
>>gets to do 3D streams repeatedly in the studio and always gets to host events everytime she wants to, Haachama complains that only certain person could use the studio several times and her projects even gets canceled by management
Cover decides that and it sure feels like blaming talents is useless when it refers to decisions like usage of the 3D studio. Mumei couldn't even use the studio for her graduation live and had to hire Kanauru so that is noticeable even with the EN branch.

>>108749621
>billion dollar vtubing company having to worry about fucking electricity of all things
But Niji is not affected by all this, so what's wrong with Holo?

>>108753704
There were no 3D streams at the studio, 35pag. You linked a music video, which is not a 3D stream.

>>108753484
Have you ever seen Momento? Context can change how we see things. But I think we can let the conversation drop here. It will just go in circles.

It's like the entire schizo autism of the board gathered in one thread. It's fascinating considering literally nothing will happen.

>>108753707
We don't include her because wasn't a talent either.

>>108753771
>entire schizo autism of the board gathered in one thread
Glorious, isn't it.

>>108753712
the thing is pekhora is sucking management cocks to get special treatment and is actively sabotaging other talents so pekhora would get to be at the top, Miko mogging pekhora hard last year even with all the 3D streams and preferential treatment from manHement is what made noupaggys seething hard and attacking Miko this year

>>108753816
management*

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>>108753816

>>108753770
There's no context in which Ao not having seeing Regloss in a long time in February of 2025 doesn't mean she wasn't skipping out practice sessions with them, or where that wasn't the reason for her forced hiatus and graduation.

If any of you think someone with these >>108749491 metrics will quit/fired/bow down over literally nothing, you are more retarded than the chinkbots

which drama holo has the biggest bush

>>108753749
it's at the same place so it was at the studio noupagpag also the streams were also done at the studio now stop deflecting

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>>108753701
And you are racism Nousagi.
> pretend to be Heinmin and want them hate Hololive.
> call "Haachama is nobody" same line same words same Haachama like spammers did in the past.
> pretend to be 35p and cause drama in their thread.
>Hate Vshojo but also hate Yagoo in the same time.
> spread all hatred to other talents expect Pekora and side with shit management.
> Nousagi like you care about antis opinion more than talents ( except Pekora)

You are disgraceful and if Pekora know what you are doing here she definitely HATE you.

>>108753927
Why are you promoting vshojo again?

>>108754021
I didn't and you are just retard that stating fact in newspaper is promoting shit.

>>108753900
It's not at the same place 35pag. I notice you're desperately trying to move the goalpost from the actual 3D studio to merely being in the same building..

>>108754021
Why are you pretending to be Heimin and 35p? For your stupid PekoMiko wars? You even care only antis talking about and seem doesn't care talents.

You are The cancer of Hololive.

>>108743944
KWABOTY

>>108754052
You just did. You keep doing this "yagoo clicked like on a vshojo post so vshojo is the best and all hololive fans like vhoejo" thing.

>>108754097
same stage
same costume
same place
lmao it was done at the studio noupagpag you're just coping hard right now because pekhora do get preferential treatment from management all thanks to her management boyfriends taro, hayashi, and takayuki kek

>>108754117
>replying twice
Quit barking at me indog. You hate hololive.

>>108754186
Holy shit you 35pags are retarded. It was done in VRchat so it was not at the studio.

>>108754163
> I don't care about Yagoo opinion!
> It must be ME ! AND ME ALONE THAT MATTER ! AHHHHHAHAHAHH.

Yagoo recognizes Ironmouse is not my fault. Your stupidity also not my responsibility.

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>>108754139
but enough about pekhora KWABOTY 2025
>streams 500 hours more than Miko
>gets to host more events than any holos
>gets to use the studio for 3D streams more than any holo
>gets to get a lot of preferential treatment from management
and yet Miko still mogged hard pekhora last year kek. Also Miko is coming back today and will continue to mog pighora again for the rest of the year

>>108754259
Holy shit you noupagpags are retarded. It was done at the studio so it was not vrchat. now stop coping noupagpag

>>108743944
BASED!
fuck mikhoe

>>108754263
>all hololive fans must worship ironmouse because yagoo said so
Your hololive fan LARP is falling apart hard.

>>108754307
but enough about pekhoera being fucked by taro hayashi and takayuki to get more preferential treatment lmao it's funny because it's true

>>108754302
You already admitted that it was done in VRchat when you could only post a fucking music video lmao dumb 35pag

>>108754327
Only in your schizophrenia mind and stop spinning my word. I really think you are Nijisister pretending to be Nousagi.

white company ceo yagoot should terminate mikhoe for hurting the feelings of japanese gamblers and then fire her

>>108754376
I never admitted such thing noupagpag, I always said the streams were done at the studio, that music video was also done at the studio too. also stop coping, you can't even admit the fact that pekhora gets preferential treatment from management, why did she even get both anniversary live and birthday live last year? some holos couldn't even get one 3D stream in the studio because pekhora is hogging all the studio slot lmao

>>108754430
Why do you keep bringing up yagoo then, ksharty?

>>108754437
but enough about pekhoera being terminated for buying illegal hacked pokemon ROMs and streaming it, that was an actual crime by the way

>pekhoera

>mikhoe

>>108754496
The streams were done in VRchat as seen in the one linked in this thread, 35pag. You posted a music video in panic for proof of "fluid movement" but sonehow cannot post a timestamp of them saying they are streaming from the 3D studio.

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>>108754578
Sucking management cocks for preferential treatment is a whore behavior so yes, pekhoera

>>108754680
but enough about mikhoe being suspended for hurting the feelings of japanese gamblers and losing subs, that was an actual crime by the way

>>108754619
the streams were done at the studio noupagpag you're just coping hard right now, none of vrchat streams had any special made stage only streams done at the studio, dumbfuck

>>108754706
she's not suspended. She's taking a break to go to her hometown at the countryside, she already planned this since December because she couldn't go there in December. Also in January last year she was also taking a break to go to her hometown.
>>108754811
also it's funny because pekhora also did the same thing as Miko saying stuff from paid horse race channel, but not course chinkfaggys chose to ignore it lmao. total pekhoera death

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YaGOAT did nothing wrong.

>>108754502
Why do you keep bringing up antis opinion, Ironmose and Vshojo then, racism disgraceful pretender who Pekora hate you?

>>108754870
well she should have said so in her tweet then instead of using a gradbait picture

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>>108754870
>ching chong chang
not falling for your DnC attempt, chinky
fuck mikhoe and fuck you, bug
i stand with the japanese

>>108754944
>Why do you keep bringing up antis opinion
I never did. You just keep saying that ironmouse is the best because yagoo and haachaam said so.

>>108754757
You couldn't show any proof that they were done at the studio.

https://imgur.com/a/ACtOiyk
Reminder that Miko never did anything wrong so she doesn't need to apologize. meanwhile pekhora the actual garbage whore leech ctually never apologized for buying and streaming illegal hacked ROM and she even did the same thing as Miko commenting and repeating stuff from green channel shit, it'z even worse because pekwhora did it several times but of course noufaggy chose to ignore this shit because cuckfaggys love to point fingers and accuse others of what pekhora did

>>108754993
who are you trying to fool here chinkfaggy, it was you and your kind who were exposed as chinks on twitter shitting on Miko lmao >>108751786 also but enough about pekhora being fucked by management lmao

>>108755091
fluid mocap special stage = at the studio

>>108755060
Don't lie please, you always put antis opinion to attack Kson and Miko. You even prioritize antis opinion more than Haachama.

You can't lie anyone here.
Racism nousagi pretender.

>>108755264 (me)
You even use Virgin Marie channel shit to argue with me you nousagi faggot.

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pekhora and her close relationship with China
>There are quite a lot of Chinese chinkfaggys. even the leader of pekhora’s bilibili translation team, “King of the nousagi” (a chink), after making pro-China remarks, led a Chinese group to harass Coco and drive her out of Hololive.
>Hololive China operations manager Jeff (Yuefu) said pekhora also agreed to returning to bilibili. There’s no way she wouldn’t agree, wording that treats only pekhora as a special case.
>On the release day, pekhora started playing the game Wukong: Black Myth, a chink game with a Japanese player rate of 0.06%, saying it was a game she had been interested in. She even used her chink outfit that she normally does not wear, catering to China.
>In a members-only Minecraft stream limited to 100 people, a Chinese group worked for 10 days with 21 people to complete the server’s largest shrine, the “Great Goddess Hall.” “Be sure not to miss pekhora’s next Minecraft stream!” Self-praise was posted, implying behind-the-scenes ties with pekhora. The next day, as pekhora hinted, the stream was held on China’s National Day.
>pekhora is also prominently featured in PC promotions for the Chinese company Lenovo (Legend Holdings). Cover's Creative Production Division Head, Executive Officer, the one who oversees the entire Cover's vtuber department Shigeki Hayashi used to work at Lenovo
>The previously prohibited Chinese-style outfit (the Jiangshi outfit) was unbanned for her earlier than for anyone else.
>the bilibili hololive translation group and her chinksagi fans sent congratulatory flower stand for her sololive

>>108755819
This can explain why racism nousagis are pro China and hate Kson and talk like Chinese spammers from 6 years ago.
> " Haachama is nobody let focus only to Coco and if she has fallen, hololive will fallen like domino. "

>>108755264
Kys kpag

>>108755246
>jank ass VR chat running animatio = fluid mocap

>>108755819
In the defend of nousagi, JP, TW and SEA nousagis allied with Tataunokoes and they may don't know about Chinese nousagis who harassed Coco inside company.

>>108756316
You can argue that not all nousagis are anti. But Pekora herself is an anti with how she treats miko. And that makes them all deserve the nuke for defending such a bitch.

>>108756255
You should and do it.
You really are the cancer of Hololive.

>35p on damage control mode now
Sorry but no one buys your slander anymore. The cat is out of the bag and now everyone knows miko is the darkness while Pekora is undoubtedly the light

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>>108756764
ironic coming from cuckfaggy who's been attacking Miko while ignoring pekhora's actual crimes lmao no one is going to be fooled, you cuckfaggys always accusing Miko of what pekhora's always been doing lmao

reminder cuckfaggy
>cuckfaggy calling Miko fat
>Miko is a petite woman irl, meanwhile pighoera turned out to be an actual fat pig irl and a +40 year old woman lmao (yes she lied about being in her 30s)
>cuckfaggy said Miko gets a lot of preferential treatment from the management
>pighoera turned out getting the most preferential treatments out of all holos (free sololive, free album, more studio time for 3Ds, gets to host more events, etc)
>cuckfaggy said Miko has management boyfriend
>pighoera actually got married to jun, plus she got a lot of preferential treatment from the management (taro, takayuki, hayashi), and she's a management cocksucker
>cuckfaggy said Miko is a numberwhore
>pighoera literally got caught having numberfagging sites as her most visited sites
>cuckfaggy said Miko is a leech
>pighoera literally can't stop leeching anyone anywhere, especially that time when she leeched Aqua for months and leeched Marine for a week nonstop, even worse she's leeching her mom for content
>cuckfaggy said Miko has a baby
>pighoera actually has a baby and even got caught buying baby clothes and baby picture books on mercari that's true lmao
>cuckfaggy said Miko collabs with males
>pighoera actually got touched and molested by an old man on live stream which is worse than just collabing which pighoera also did all the time lmao
>cuckfaggy said Miko steals other people ideas
>pighoera literally and actually steals everyone's ideas for events and streams especially Miko's events and streams ideas
>cuckfaggy said Miko is a liar
>pighoera actually lied to other holos and to cuckfaggy a lot of times, reminder that she lied about still living with her mom but in fact she's already move to another place and living "alone" for over a year, she didn't tell this to her fans and even her close friends like Marine
>cuckfaggy said Miko went to a festival with someone
>another slander, meanwhile pighoera actually got caught watching her husband jun's stream
>cuckfaggy said Miko deleting comments
>pighoera did it a lot of times and even banned several words in her chat lmao
>cuckfaggy said Miko "stole" paywalled content and did something illegal for it and hasn't apologized for it yet
>pighoera literally repeated the green channel paid content several times before, not to mention pighoera actually bought illegal pokemon ROM and still hasn't apologized for it to this to this
>and many more
every single bad thing, every slander, every anti post that cuckfaggys said about Miko, it actually happened to pighoera, you chimpfaggys are all just accusing Miko of the things that pighoera always been doing lmao very pathetic very chinklike behavior, accuse others of what you do, all those shit just because Miko always mogs pighoera? kek pathetic chinksagis

>>108756580
Why can't you speak english?

Yep, I won.

>>108756280
yes, it was done at the studio, I accept your concession

>>108757018
VRchat was not done at the studio.

>>108757048
Yes it was done at the studio, they even made special stage for it