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>>108743750
Wait, really? Sleepy got rid of her old audience? How did she pull that off?
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because you're retarded and made a thread instead of a reply
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>>108761563
The thread died before I saw it so it's time for a new thread.
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why does Pippa dislike Alana anyways?
shes hardly the only hard Pippa simp, yet shes given other simps more attention.
shes hardly the only chud fan, yet shes given other chud fans more attention.
nor the only overlap between those.
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>>108761538
If your actually asking vs being facetious. She alienated a ton of her original Audience over time.

She went from a gun focused, more down to earth tuber to an idol to whatever the hell she is now.

Assuming your being facetious and trying to rage bait antis here are a few things to note.

Firstly she went from someone who interacted a ton with her audience/ voiced her own opinions. Now she is extremely stream safe, and completely unwilling to voice anything that might land her in trouble.

Secondly. She has an obvious hate for her current model. Especially since fishman seems adamant on his idols using one model at a time vs many. Something she was never good at, especially if you consider the fact that she CONSTANTLY loved new models and new changes. Vs the boring recolor and random accessories to cover her breasts.

Lastly she has increasingly become active on her alt twitter. Which screams "I can't say what I actually want to say because if I do I'll get in trouble"

Phase cucks for whatever reason have this weird obsession that they are like special. That chuubas leave their communities for them. But the reality is these women know that phase watchers will slurp up boring content and buy shit merch.

Anyone with half a brain remembers Pippa and sleepy critiquing the old merch, how bad the distribution was(something still true to this day) yet now will never speak out

Phase managed to suck any and all life out of so many talents and because of dumb watchers who fund it they will continue to do so.

Assuming your not being an ass and legitimately curious. There are some obvious spergs who got banned and blame phase. We know. But most of her old fans that no longer watch or at best lurk remember the good days.

The days where she streamed for 12+ hours because she was so interested in it. Even with dead air or chats she went for hours. The weeks where she streamed despite being tired, or not having perfect access to meds. The blunt discord announcement/ talks where she would tell chat she wasn't happy with how something went. Now we're lucky to get a tweet about it, lucky for any stream over 3 hours and lucky for any amount of consistent streams. Sure she streamed for a whole week last week but anyone watching could see she wasn't there. Practically asleep at the wheel. I knew it the moment she began doing more and more react/ just chatting streams. Something she used to be vehemently against because as she said it. Was what everyone else did for lazy content instead of trying.

And before you go accusing me of being a groomer or some other dumb shit. I was not one of those idiots that got banned and tried to make fake quotes or excuses. I was one of her most loyal fans who was there since she used that God awful vr chat model. But as time went on she changed and so have I. So now I lurk if I have time but no longer wish to converse or even be a part of her community that is now full of people who are so unwilling to say anything could be wrong.
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>>108762122
she's an alana's anus anti
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>>108762196
I actually was serious and genuinely wanted to know more about the situation. So thank you for this answer, I found it very detailed and informative.
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>>108761538
Her content got way better after phasing in and her fans miss the endless slop she produced before
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>>108762196
funny that the same thing happened with mari too
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>>108762243
I apologize if anything came off as angry or derogative. One of my main issues with tact and phase general is that ANY mention that sleepy isn't as good/ anything isn't perfect is immediately met with some dumbass calling people Antis/groomers which as you can imagine is frustrating.

Especially since sleepy herself used to ask for legit feedback, critiqued herself hard and hard and pushed for content she was proud of. Content she was so happy to have made that she spend days working on models and other things just to say she did. All the ogs remember her literally learning how to rig a model so she could improve it. Now at most we get genetic vtube studio random things. I remember one time, she commed jizi for her favorite guns. The ash12 and svd. She talked about how much she worked to make the models look good and proper how SHE worked on it to make sure it was done to her liking. Now we're lucky to get anything not built into vtube studio.

I hope she gets better or at the very least is happy with her life. But to be blunt she is probably not my oshi anymore Because imo she's not the same person anymore.

That doesn't have to be a bad thing. I'm sure plenty of people love her now. But honestly I'm just sick of the people on these boards who can't accept that someone might not like how someone has changed and no longer wish to support them.
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>>108762328
Explain how it's better. Please in detail explain just how it's better. It's so frustrating when people say something like this with ZERO examples evidence or proof
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>>108762330
I definitely wish I could see what the fishes guidelines for streams are. Based on context clues I know a few things for sure.

Content must be safe, minimum chances for copy right strikes or something similar.

Must use official phase models with only small changes from vtuber studio. More than likely as a way to reduce model bloat/ "favoritism".
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>>108761538
Isn't she friends with Yuko/Rye?
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>>108762960
She was but hasn't been around them publicly for a long time. When. The yuko incident went down she had to put out a statement to not talk about it and. Sleepy has very much separated from her old "project" friends and group. Only really collabing with people who have a big enough following now. For a moment I thought she was going back to her roots with kana but I didn't realize just how much she grew too
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>>108762986
Oh wow, I didn't know she's been separated from Yuko/Rye and her old project for that long. Wonder if something happened between them or just differing goals. Smart choice in the end though.
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>>108763003
She hadnt been publicly around rye or whisky for years. Well before her phase in. Most of her old collab mates are also gone due to them having a penis.

She also very vocally had a complex about being compared to pippa too. The two big ones I remember were the phase people coming in asking for SLEEPKIN SLIPPA! To which for a while that shit was banned. It honestly might still be banned in chat.

The other was the bathing suit incident. Where her and poppa apparently went to a water park and the attendant made a comment about them wearing the same bathing suit but sleepy wasn't like covered enough or something. The art that came from this was very common and she eventually asked people to stop with it. Both in her discord and when she saw it on the special pippa discord back when she was on both publicly
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>>108762986
NTA but I have a less important question. How come she's the only one without an alcohol themed name? Whiskey, Rye, and... Sleepy? I always wondered about that
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>>108763050
Don't blame for stopping people from calling her pippa 2.0. Anyway, sorry your old oshi got super sanitized. Sounds like it a was a slow but obvious process to watch. Hope she gets her groove back and enjoys herself again.
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>>108763070
Originally sleepy wasn't a project girl. She met jixi who gave her an updated model along with rye and whisky. Sleepy was moonshine. Whisky was whisky and I forget what rye was. Probably vodka.

Sleepy was sleepy before she joined his group so her name wasn't an alcohol
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god i miss her
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>>108763093
That shit was what made me hate phase fans. They never want something new. Just the same thing with a recolor. Which Honestly I'm seeing the irony of sleepy doing that now with her corpo model lol.

It is what it is. I hope she's happy and doing what she wants but idk I doubt it. It definitely feels very sanitized and "job" now compared to the original streamer vibes. I do hope fish is treating her well as when she worked hard she worked. And I was inspired a lot when she was indie because she seemed to love what she did and would stop at nothing to get it done. But they say that people change with time and age. As some of the schizos have pointed out. She's in her thirties. And I assume her stimulants mess with with stuff so she probably won't ever really be what she was.



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