Is Jelly right? Are we truly to blame?
>>108807978What is the context to this?
>>108807978>misogyny>when she joined plappa chudconnectI'll never understand phase dragging drama from /pol/shitters at every opportunity. Couldn't they do 3D idol shows and be cute instead?
>>108807978Qrd?
>>108807978Jitler is always right
The only people who think that drama is about gender are either really stupid or are trying really hard to distract from the obvious regarding the respective economic backgrounds of the people involved. Two words. Tax brackets.
>>108808037you know you can be a chud without being antifeminist
>>108808010>marvel rivals tourney that has a 40k prize pool happens>female streamer is captain of team and drafts a good player who's motivated to win and try to get the money for college debt>streamer and her friends don't give a fuck and fuck around because they have so much more money and not care>good player asks her to switch off because her fucking around is costing them the game>she seethes, talks shit, kicks him from the team>everyone shits on her because 40k is a good amount of money and she threw entirely because of woman moment and ego reasons>now is posting fake apologies and saying sorry but keeps talking shit behind the sceneprobably more to it but that's the gist
>>108808010>>108808040there was a marvels rivals tournament. a talented guy got paired up with some incompetent women. talented guy gives competent advice and suggests one of the incompetent women not make a dogshit meta choice. talented guy gets bullied out of the tournament for this by the incompetent women. incompetent women do poorly.
>>108808010https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/1qhmtut/twitch_streamer_kicked_out_of_40000_marvel_rivals/
>>108808162>eport tourney>female streamer captainWas gonna be a disaster before it even started.
i wonder what would have happened if zaza carried her team to victory though
>>108807978>our own kindshe means women
>>108808135i'm both
>>108807978Jelly:>our own kindOP:>Are weYWNBAW
>>108808452i was about to say this. wtf is OP on about with we.
>>108808040Context: This clip is from one of their scrims of the Deadpool content creator cup. Streamer Kingsman (Magik player) was kicked from his team in the Marvel Rivals tournament for asking Zazzastack (Black Widow OTP playing with 200 ping) to switch to a different character for a better team composition. Kingsman kept telling them that they would get rolled in the tourney because everyone will being going triple support, and that Black Widow would keep getting dived and killed. These girls kept roasting Kingsman because he was very insistent on a team comp not involving Widow. He even offered to play Mantis support for the widow, but they declined it.Cece (Team Captain) complained to the host of the tournament. Also, the Widow’s bf made a google doc on Kingsman being "toxic" and posted it on twitter, which ultimately led to him being kicked out of the tourney.The tournament was yesterday and they got rolled. What Kingsman predicted happened, every team played triple support and the Widow had zero impact. They ended up last place in the tourney, with a score of 1 win and 8 losses.Kingsman made a youtube video for more details: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyKlnqgNtXsCece also made a yt vid in response to the Kingsman vid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CbSUZZTOzwWidow's BF (who created the google doc, which was the main reason why Kingsman was kicked from the team) made an apology to Kingsman: https://x.com/Kaplunkk_/status/2013590959041483220Cece's apology: https://x.com/cecefps/status/2013478943001550861
>>108807978>weSure, you've got the floor, tranny. Share your thoughts.
>>108808135im centrist anti feminist
>>108807978>Pick me pick me pick me
>>108809651Since you've askedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqPnWGi22Ac
I don't know what that good player expected when he was paired with a bunch of women who can't play for shit. It's not like what the dramawhores did was correct either, but these events are just something where you are supposed to baby the literal retards and then lose to the teams who have thots with half a brain to follow orders. Women will be women, what can you do
>>108809813>these events are just something where you are supposed to baby the literal retardsUsually, but when they joined there was no money on the line. Otherwise he'd have had better teammates
>>108809852Usually these events force you to partner up with one or more girls to balance the teams so that a team of competent guys doesn't just steamroll the whole thing. It's just a PR tournament meant for internet personalities and sure there is prize money, but most people attending aren't expecting to win it.
has nothing to do with /vt/ubers besides Jelly commenting on the topic, why do you reach so hard
>>108808122A lot of it has to do with women's endemic focusing on how something was said instead of what was said, and inability to earnestly take responsibility their fuck ups.
>>108809896Nah, if the prize had been announced from the get-go there'd have been a lot more tryhards
>>108809360Lmao
>>108808122This, make it about anything but what the real problem is, income.This is a simple case of the rich verses the poor and the rich are playing the usual group, see >>108807978 as useful idiots, again.
>>108807978I fucking hate foids so much
>>108808122If a poor woman is willing to fight to defend a rich woman because they are both women, then she can die with her honor on the battlefield of her choice.
>>108807978We? Op you're female?Post tits or gtfo.
>>108808162>>108809360I don't understand why Doki eagers to hang out with these people so much.
>>108808122Absolutely based. Theyre trying to skirt about this issue because then it would bring to light the fact that ALL (((entertainers))) and (((content creators))) are part of the problem. And thats a no-no.
>>108808167The guy got hand picked from a pool, not paired. Basically the captain of the team, one of the girls, was given points and a list of signed top players, she picked basically her streamer friends and the highly ranked dude that got kicked.Mind you, none of the girls are actually bad at the game, they are actually above pub level gameplay but just like the kicked guy stated, everyone in this "friendly" tournament was going to sweat their socks off, as just as he got picked from a pool of top players with points, other teams would also have beasts on them, most likely giving the same advice. One of the captain's friends was a one trick pony, a Window Maker player, its basically her stich as a streamer, a woman thats decent in pubs with whats basically one of the worst characters in the game. He tells her to swap because its not Meta and theyll get stomped. They bicker for an hour, guy gives up and basically adapts around her and funny enough, do fine, him carrying tho. Couple of games later, the Widow Maker's BF DMs the organizer and dude gets kicked.
>>108807978Only Women were to blame.
>>108807978>weHint: She's referring to her own kind (something you are not) Keep working on the English, bro. You'll figure it out eventually.
>>108812047It's always a fuckin' guy at the end that pulls the trigger. At least he'll be a little less noticeable if the people placing bets on the event want to talk him about recouping their losses in private.Gamblers are known to be a stoic, clear headed bunch.
>>108808162>try to get the money for college debtAmerica is a fucking joke
>>108807978Thank you for your input Jelly Pickme. I'm sure the abusive "based" man who ends up picking you and forcing you to cook for him isn't also going to beat the hell out of you because "you're one of the good retarded foids."She's so ridiculous. Rabbit trying to court the wolf behavior.
>>108807978It's actually really funny watching spoiled american tumblrtards seethe at Jerry and other Asian chicks because in Asia 1) pickme isn't a thing, the women just blatantly compete for the best and richest guys and think women not doing that are totally retarded 2) in asia the man is expected to take care of his wife, sorry neets, jelly is 1950s trad 3) asian chicks think western women pmsing about -literally nothing- is fucking annoying when their parents would beat them for getting a B+ instead of an AIt's really "survival of the least cunty" among girls and muttified 'white' women are losing that gambit.
>>108808040tl;dr: toxic femininity
>>108810211Oh sweetie we both know that the poor woman will just get her beta orbiter paypig to die in her name. The entire trojan war was simps dying for someone else's wife.
>>108812229People need to find these simps and beat the shit out of them. It'll end when dudes are afraid of fucking around on behalf of m'lady.
>>108808452>>108808508By "our own kind" what if she means grifters and pickmes?
>>108812347Lose some weight, you fat pig.
>>108807978>KingsmanThat shitty action move from like 10 years ago?
>>108810602They're literally her kind of people
>>108812374>YWNBAW>But also wait you are a womanWhich one is it?
>>108812347>grifterstrue for phase>pickmeew another tranny
>>108812403Why get angry at one phrase and not the other? They're one and the same.
>>108812403Don't get so stressed, you're already balding enough.
>>108812297>jelly is 1950sNo she isn’t she’s a vtuber streamer.
>>108809360>Widow's BF (who created the google doc, which was the main reason why Kingsman was kicked from the team) made an apology to Kingsman: https://x.com/Kaplunkk_/status/2013590959041483220Not good enough. Take his thumbs.
>>108812439Why are you mistaking disgust for anger?>>108812502Nah there isn't a single baldie in my family. Are you projecting?
>>108812566You were the one projecting thinking everyone around you is a tranny. You're telling on yourself here.
>>108807978>Pick me! Pick me!!! Oh gooood please fucking pick me!!!!!
>>108808162>>108808167I dont play Rivals, is Black Widow that shit of a pick?
>>108812588Nope that's pattern recognition, I've only ever seen trannies, seething foids, and ESLs use "pickme" to describe vtubers. Usually it's trannies.
>>108808254>Locking the comments on this. Comments have degraded into gross comments towards players simply because they're womenRedditmods, never change.
>>108808162>>108808122Huh, I don't know about specific details, but what about this was about tax? Just because the others in the team were rich af?
>>108812643I think she's like Widowmaker from Overwatch, a sniper character.Which the female streamer was playing on 200 ping not hitting anything, refusing to change characters.
>marvel rivals eceleb dramaJelly really knows the phase audience
>>108807978e-girls are the most oppressed class
>>108808399But she didn't so....
>>108812602Found the woman
>>108812602low-t claws etched this missive
>>108812643Sniper character, and she was 0-5 or 0-8 or something.
wtf did Cecilia Immergreen join the tourney and get into drama???
>>108808162anyone who demands someone switch is a piece of shit and deserves to get kicked. Like fuck you, I dont tell you what to play, I'll play whatever character I'm best/most comfortable with. She was 100% in the right. The poorfag should go get a real fucking job
>>108815308He got a real job. Due to the massive outpouring of support (including from the developers of the game) after how you treated him, he's more than set. Thanks for being a catty bitch.
>>108809360The Widow's BF is a huge faggot for that dockey. Even if the guy was a jackass behind the scenes, you presumably only have to endure it for this one shitty tournament that none of them seem to care about anyways? Why is everything about cancelling someone and risking their livelihood for the crime of being a little mean?
>>108808162>>108808162what the fuck did the guy think was going to happen after joining up with vtubers? what an idiot
>>108815308she was 0/5/0 lol
>>108815839Were they vtubers? I thought they were just regular streamers or something. Also on the subject, Doki was mentioning last night how she almost entered the tournament and how her friend that was actually going to be Kinsman's sub (moxyyy) told her about everything as it was going down. Apparently the girls' were so thorough in spreading rumors about the dude that until Kinsman made his expose video explaining himself, everyone really was about to just write him off entirely. Also one of the girls on the team who was throwing him under the bus was a regular duo queue for him. Girl basically got boosted to high elo and tossed him away when it was convenient.
>>108815308If I was the captain I would have kicked you out for being a faggot.
>>108815308you not only don't play, you haven't even watched
>>108816215I just assumed they were vtubers since this is the vtuber board, really. I guess that was silly of me.
>>108812047>none of the girls are actually bad at the gameThey were all carried. The black widow player at least. She gets carried to celestial and then deranks to GM on stream everytime. And before you say gm is good, diamond is the equivalent to gold in other games.
>>108812643She's lowest winrate hero
>>108812643Here's the winrates of the top and bottom five characters at the highest level of public play.
>>108808162How is this about gender at all?It's just some people not considering the needs of someone for whom doing their best in the tournament matters.If one really has to put it in any way, that's kind of a class struggle but not really.
>>108817849It's missing the important middle part where the girls were spreading rumors about the dude and the main girl's boyfriend released a google doc trying to "expose" kinsman as a hateful misogynist. If Kinsman didn't come out with a video as quickly as he did before the rumors broke containment of that specific tournament, he might've become a pariah in the scene.
>>108808162Watching the twitch clips it seems like the biggest nothingburger to hit the grill. I don't understand why the foids turned this into the ultimate titty twister for themselves.
>>108818026Jesus Christ I hate this world
>>108807978I don't give a shit about esports and i'm convinced my life is better that way with all the drama that comes from it.
>>108818408Yeah until his video came out and everybody got the full context of what was going on, people just thought Kinsman was another woman hating esports sweater picking on the poor female content creator and making life worse for girls in esports. On Day 1, that's pretty much what the story was. Day 2 it flipped entirely and everyone realized it was another case of false accusations, hence people saying that these girls "set women in the gaming sphere back another 50 years"
>>108807978>our own kind to blame>we>>108810289This guy gets it.Tits or gtfo, OP.>>108808452Nevermind, i take it back.>>108812602>>108809651Fine, here’s your (You).
>>108809360google doc returns
>>108807978I don't know the particulars of the case, but a handful of women being idiots doesn't justify misogyny.
>>108819412good thing what they got was criticism, then.
>>108819412Whether that is true is not important to jelly who is just trying to generate interaction which she succeeded at.
>>108817127I take it marvel rivals one of those dumb games where "grandmaster" is a really low rank to make retards feel good about themselves, and then the subsequent titles are things like "CHAMPION", "SUPREME", etc?
>>108808162>marvelStopped reading there. Glad I didn't know the context and never will.
>>108820113From what I've seen, GM is basically the highest title you can carry a shitter. Past that (Celestial, Eternity, Top500) you need to at least pull your weight. So yeah, basically.
>>108812313Honestly I wouldn't mind the term "toxic masculinity" if the people that said it also complained about toxic femininity as well. The people saying toxic masculinity also don't seem to detail what positive masculinity is as though it doesn't exist and imply the entirety of masculinity is toxic.
>>108808162>>108808167Brutal.....
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>man does some retarded shit>>what a retard lol>woman does retarded shit>>why are all women retarded?
>>108807978>big epik happening am i right guise, by the way women bad wink winkyou are a cute girl, not asmongold, dumb phasecunt
>>108808040Women sucking at games and getting mad at men.
>>108812268That's your takeaway from this?
>>108822527but seriously, why are all women retarded? it can't just be a coincidence.
>>108809360>Cece also made a yt vid in response to the Kingsman vid:Holy shit's she's getting rolled IRL too.
>>108826209if she wasnt an ugly asian woman people would be defending her
>>108807978You will never be a man, Jelly.
>>108822527Women also face less consequences when they do retarded shit.
>>108822527>man does some retarded shit>>moves on with life because who gaf>woman does retarded shit>>doubles, triples, & quadruples down because never wrong>>aligns with low-T simps and dusty holes>>uses barrage of meaningless buzzwords (e.g. incel, virgin, incel, broke, incel, misogynist, & incel)>>never admits fault>>withers and dies because source of external validation dries up
>>108807978yeswomen and the LGBTQ+ communities have been speedrunning others into hating them. Women in particular have been really upping the male BAD female GOOD rhetoric for a long time.Of course, most people here are so starved for the idea of a female that they'll take every form of abuse conceivable to just get even a glimpse of a female.
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>>108822527Because women almost never join esports events as participants. And when they do, they ALWAYS fuck up.
>>108807978>we
>>108808135>>108809503>>108808442I'm far left anti-feminist. From everyone according to their ability, to everyone according to their need. Which means women are obligated to use their ability to carry babies to have children with men who have an emotional need to be fathers.
>>108826941in her "apology" video she uses a PNG and a voice changer to pitch up to sound UwU cuter lmao.
>>108807978Nobody gives a shit about this outside of niche internet communities.
>>108827568>does retarded shit>doubles, triples, & quadruples down because never wrong>uses barrage of meaningless buzzwords>never admits faultThere are loads of male streamers who do stuff like this though. Just for a couple of examples, Hasan Piker and the Pirate Software guy. It's extremely common streamer behavior.
>>108830836Yeah it's just general narcissism thing. They're drawn to streaming like flies to shit.
>>108817849They shouldn't have joined the tournament if they weren't going to take it seriously, but they've become easy targets for chuds trying to force all women out of esports.
>>108812347An entire thread embarrassing the tranny phase anti. Lol
>>108808162>expecting someone else to fund your poor decisionswow I feel so bad for the guy like holy shit... not
>>108816496sure I do. Her skill level and the outcome dont matter, no one gets to tell someone else how to play a game. You want someone telling you what to do? Of course not. You spend hundreds of hours perfecting a character and some nobody tells you to play a character you have no clue about? Fuck that.
>>108834621She just had to admit they planned on throwing the game anyways, and not waste his time.But it's the google doc and getting him kicked out trying to tarnish his reputation that warranted him to respond.
>>108816215I liked the part where Doki said that she is glad she didn't take the opportunity to be team captain because she "probably would have been in a similar situation to the girls" somehow admiting that she also plays by vibes with her own friends avoiding changing characters where it is needed. Hope she learns something from this
>>108835086>somehow admiting that she also plays by vibes with her own friends avoiding changing characters where it is neededAnon... I'm pretty sure it was more in a "oh no another female content creator what if she's just like Cece" way since the tournament would be soon enough that the kinsman drama is still fresh in people's minds. Doki's the opposite on the character front. She's practiced enough to flex any character in her role and has no problems swapping at a moment's notice.
>>108826149He's not wrong.
>>108808162You forgot the part were the boyfriend released a twitlonger
>>108835339Also, didn't xQc finally beat Doki because one of Doki's teammates could only play one unit, but again to learn a 2nd one, however they ran out of time before the tourny and xQc target banned the character that player was good at to cripple them? Sounds totally different.
