Are you pro or anti GFE?
>>108823097It's a very bad idea because the cuckies are going to throw a melty when it turns you their "girlfriend" was seeing someone else, like it happened to Rushia and Nimi.
>>108823097I don't care for it, so I don't watch it.
>>108823097Is she dense or just SEA?
I'm not a fan but I usually just ignore it if it's not too overwhelming. Otherwise I just watch someone else.But also, GFE and heavy GFE consoomers are responsible for like half of all vtuber drama. The industry would be better off without it.
>>108823596This, I agree>>108823576>the SEA calling SEA
>>108823097Is she a dyke?
>>108823097its pathetic, but if you want to let a foid manipulate you as such, go ahead and claim your darwin award, at the very least call her out when shes doing stupid shit or talking any feminist crap, and never let her yuribait or do that stupid "i love girls!" shit. shes a glorified slut and she should know her place.
>>108823097Neither. I think it's a market and I'm fine with it existing as long its fans stop trying to force their delusions onto my oshi who never involved herself in it
>>108823835What's wrong with yuribait? It's based, it let's them release their sexual energy.
>>108823097Cool but still not watching. I'm not a fan of this laplus style shit of using some supposed romantic desire in common for some of the chuubas to establish yourself as a bro-type female vtuber. It's a bit strange. Also it's like when your oshi has a part of the character being really weirdly into another chuuba (noel with subaru, flare with ina...) and you feel like you and your oshi are a rung below others.
>>108823097It’s a difficult game to play for an extended period of time. Lucrative, to be sure, but difficult. You’ll get some huge donos and a good income, but you have to deal with the clientele… and GFE attracts the worst parts of the fandom. Not against it though, if people wanna pay for it, and chuuba are willing to provide, its just another form of entertainment.Dizzy doing GFE would be a hilarious disaster though.
>>108824095who would want GFE from a barren old hag like her
who cares phaseshits?
I'm pro OP not wasting our time with dumbfuck threads like this.
>>108824157Why the fuck does it matter, you'll never get to fuck them anyways.
>>108823097I like gfe, I just wish it was the standard thing for them to just graduate without lore dropping when they get married/on a relationship. No melties, no drama. Fans just get sad for a while and everyone eventually moves on without hating women more than before.
>>108824024its fake, but the real problem is they start selling pseudo feminism when they do it "hehe im so gay women are so beautiful and cool boys are stinky" japanese they can do it right, western vtubers suck at it, they always gotta bring politics into it.
>>108823717>t. doesn't understandAh so she's equatorian
>>108824157People who like emotionally unstable women (me)
>>108823097The best GFE is implied.
>>108824157Me, you either reignite a dying star, or nakadashi thrice a day trying
>>108823097woah she's just like me and probably needs my support
>>108823576a sea slug
>>108823097Wait I thought phase hated gfe and their fans proactively attack gfe chuubas?Why is she going against the grain now?
>>108823097I think it's not great for the audience or the streamer.
>>108823097Jesus these whores really are pickmes no wonder they're so unpopular. 0.6% btw
>>108823576Nah Canuck-Chinese.
>>108825098Why does she have the valley gorl dialect?
>>108823835>its pathetic, but if you want to let a foid manipulate you as such, go ahead and claim your darwin award, at the very least call her out when shes doing stupid shit or talking any feminist crap, and never let her yuribait or do that stupid "i love girls!" shit. shes a glorified slut and she should know her place.
>>108823097"our home"
>>108823097anti because GFEfags are subhuman and unbearable
>>108825153tate might be retarded but it makes total sense why hes so popular, foids have become completely deranged and hes one of the few calling them out
>>108823097Conflicted. I like GFE, but I hate GFEfags.
>>108825120She sounds PNW and lives in Vancouver
>>108823097another ghost idol en in the future?
>>108824157>barren old hagnon stop creampies I will flood her womb till she gets pregnant
>>108823097I am a GFE but I'm anti GFE, I just do it for the money (it's a lot).
>>108823097>tired of pretending I'm notAmazing how this manages to fuse both virtue signaling and reddit into one cancerous phrase.
pickme connect
>>108826733Picked up.
gfe is a grift, they ones who do it, do it because they know they aren't entertaining. they do it because they want to have their squad of simpsthey develop a horrible princess syndrome and become extremely insufferable.a lot of women get into vtubing because they see it as an easy way to get attention and then turn to gfe so that people worship them without actually having to put in the effort
>>108823492Why are unicorns like this?
>>108823835>>108824046>>108825491>>108827381Why are unicorns like this?
>>108827381Correct. She's trying to go or the ironic angle to downplay the fact it's inherently predatory where the streamer tries to monetize the loneliness of (mostly) men. It's also like you said, something done by streamers who aren't entertaining. It will also always be followed up with them having to LARP as lesbians or femcels because not only do they need to trick retards into thinking there is a single, lonely girl out there who loves everything you love, but you can only speak to her through superchats and meet and greets. But singers, actors, comedians, streamers etc can all make content WITHOUT hiding their relationship status. Why? Because it doesn't fucking matter to the content. Meanwhile GFE types who court parasocials will not only be trying to navigate a web of lies, but they also bring in mentally ill stalkers.TLDR; GFE is bad for the viewer, it's also bad for the streamer and is shit content.
>>108823513>I don't care for it, so I don't watch it.best post
>>108825120Because she's from Canada's California.
>>108823097I'm pro unapologetic GFE, the fans always held women accountable when shit happens unlike other whores and their cucks who flip the whole script when is revealed she had a bf/husband.
>>108827507Most men (me included) can't find a girl willing to touch our dicks so we have to settle for something else. Saying shit like "you got $200 you aren't a virgin" generalizes the issue. Try getting a whore in america outside of Nevada, your ass is going to prison .
I'm pro GFE if she can keep her irl life well hidden. It's absurd to ask these girls to never get touched by a man when their looks are on a short timer so perfect your opsec ladies.
>>108831764>Try getting a whore in america outside of Nevada, your ass is going to prison.More to the point, it doesn't solve the actual intimacy problem in the first place. Cuz absent paying for her to be a Rent A Wife or something, she's not gonna do all the other things a relationship gives you. Nor are most gonna be fine with the knowledge that their relationship is purely transactional.Anyone advocating for using a whore is either a retard normalfag that can't see beyond bumping uglies, a foid who needs to shut the fuck up, or just a SIMP being mad.
>>108823097>I am pro (receiving) GFEShe knows what she's doing for when she has to bonk her chat
>I want to be preyed uponAll she needs to do is give you location out and give me 24 hours.
>>108823097Jesus Christ it really is the pick me corp
I'm pro GFE and anti whoreI'm also anti everybody who posts in this thread
>>108823097based, holocucks seething because there are 0 (ZERO) GFE vtubers in hololive
>>108823097I'm anti gfe. But all women who are streaming are gfe even if they don't realize it. Let's get real for a second of most of these chuubas none of them are actually funny, or creative or entertaining. They use the fact that they will always have an audience because there is so many lonely men in the modern world it's impossible to fail.The only possible way to fail is to be open about your relationship status. Which is exactly why there has never been a successful female streamer that was open about it from day one.As many people point out. Vtubing started out as a way for people to use cool custom models they liked. But has as a genre evolved into a parasitic relationship of women using lonely men without consequences. The good news is that since so many vtubers exist now the space is flooded. More and more people leave as more and more tubers get exposed as bad people and eventually there won't be enough to support the genre.
>>108823097>Are you pro or anti GFE?Questions only in EN
I like Dizzy, they're a good kid.
>>108823097>anti GFE>"I dont want anime girl livestreamer to be parasocial"Look, if I wanted anything else I would watch something else
Why does this guy always bring up Hololive in every thread? Nobody even mentioned them.
>>108823492Get rid of alcohol for everyone because some people cant handle their beer
>>108823097Yeah I'm not surprised Tsunderia fell apart when someone like this was running it.
>>108823097All female vtubers are GFE.How many male vtubers can hold a 'just chatting' stream and literally get free money by the thousands?You think they pick pedobait models that look more AI-generated than if they were actually AI generated by accident?It's a grift. Your oshi isn't a virgin, isn't gay, isn't single, and doesn't think you're funny. Also, your dad didnt actually go to get milk.
>>108823097Yes and buy an ad
>>108823097I don't really care for GFE.Consider AZKi. She's married and everyone knows and it's a non-issue. The character still works fine. I've always also assumed Fubs is married (even though some people say this is not the case) and it's the same thing.If they were talking about their boyfriends or husbands all the time, I don't think I'd really care for that either, but they don't. I just want the idol experience, not a pretend girlfriend.
>>108823097>wake up>Dizzy's having another biological-clock meltdown>go back to sleep
>>108831764As someone from a country where it's legal, it doesn't solve the issue, would you pay for a girl to DM you "Hey, how was your day?" every once in a while? Probably not, because she ultimately doesn't actually care. The same goes for sex, most of us don't want sex, we want someone who genuinely wants to have sex with us, a prostitute doesn't solve this because she's just selling a service.That being said, I'd be lying if I said I didn't consider going to one that did GFE (in the traditional sense of the word), only deciding against it because I'm scared of getting addicted. That and the fact I unironically have a thing for black girls and they're in none of the sites I checked
>>108823492The only people that are hurt are the womens wallets risk and reward faggot
>>108835621Huh? Of course prostitutes genuinely want to have sex with you that's how they survive literally their job like I genuinely want to work so I can continue eating if I could work on my back even better
>>108835647Sure, but what they find desirable is surviving, not you. You probably just enjoy your paycheck and put up with whatever your job is in order to get it. Even assuming enjoyment of the job itself, it would come from getting railed all day, not specific clients. When I say "someone who genuinely wants to have sex" it's not "Anon paid me, so I'll put up with him fucking me" or "I love getting railed all day plus living off doing so, I'll let anon help", but "I genuinely love Anon, I want to specifically have sex with him"; That is what most guys desire, and what cannot easily be attained via a couple hundred dollars
>>108825491Pretty sure only niggers watch that guy though.
I got nothing against GFE fags but I think they are being taken advantage of most of the time. I used to be pro GFE until I saw each one I knew about get exposed for either having a BF or did a rugpull once they got their money. >Rushia: married while doing GFE psychotic behavior>Yuko Yurei: got a bunch of money from her donothon and removed goals after returning to her groomers>gumpai: had a bf and mocked fans behind the scenes I’m sure there are more too. One might argue Elfin was GFE but idk.
>>108835208>She's married and everyone knows and it's a non-issue.Yes and no. I agree it's a non-issue, but you can't say everyone knows when it's on her alt/PL account, not something discussed on main. I actually like some of them to the point where I would actually like it if they got married and had kids, because it's been a few years of hagdom and I dislike the idea of say Towa dying alone and childless because she spent her 30s streaming as a vtuber. That said Rushia shows that plenty can get married behind the scenes and hide it so I doubt many of them are actually single.>>108835621Yeah, the incels and the normies have both completely fucked us (pun intended). Normies will have casual sex and say it's "just sex" even though "just sex" with someone else results in tears and breakups While incel discourse is full of talk about just sex, other guys talk about bringing back stripping away womens rights to force marriage or how you should hire prostitutes. Both groups completely make it a physical thing and do nothing to address the fact you're not getting the emotional element you crave. Which is also funny as women complain men aren't in tough with their emotions, then proceed to completely dismiss guys feelings. I could have a bot text me daily and it won't make me feel less lonely, probably worse as I know it's fake. It would be sad if your only friends hung around you because you paid them. GFE also has people feign being isolated to try and be relatable, I despise it. If you like black girls just move to wherever the fuck they live and ask them out. It's one of those cases where if you're not black you may get your foot in the door just for being a curiosity. My issue is entirely the fact I'm a virgin and want a virgin wife, if I don't feel special I will just be miserable and would rather die alone. It is what it is, all the best to you anon. It's nice to see other people emphasise the romantic side, makes me feel like less of an outcast among outcasts.
>>108835505Not really a biological clock meltdown but seething that BFE is SHIT right now
>>108832143not being actively abrasive is a bad thing?
>>108827507>>108827555Homobeggers really are like the little sister who constantly comes in on her brother playing action figures and makes it about playing with dolls just out of spite while the mom forces you to play her way and then is completely baffled why the brother hates his sister now.You've got your own fucking market dude. There are homo collabing chuubas by the score, please go watch them so I can watch my fantasy GF. I don't want to hear about the boyfriend Dizzy likely has, I don't give a shit. This is a fantasy, please go watch the homocollabing chuubas somewhere else. You are not wanted im this space, please stop being a pest and a nuisance.
GFE would fit the grifter OP chuuba perfectly since she's casually talked about Tinder dates to her cuckie audience in her previous persona
>>108823097Anti.Every GFEtuber is either a gifting sex worker exploiting the mentally ill, or is mentally ill themselves and just codependent with a faceless anonymous mass that gives them money.Both are bad. GFEfags need to learn to love themselves, or at least just let their imagination do the legwork instead of crowding around women who just have a bridge to sell. The grifters always betray their audience when it's convenient, and the crazy ones always crash out and drown in drama.Just find someone normal, milauetoast and sane and let your fantasies do the rest. It'll save you a lot of heartache and a lot of money.
>>108824157You'd drag your nuts through a mile of broken glass to be with her and you know it
>>108825491They're no more deranged than the men. The economic system that we're steadfastly refusing to replace has driven us all insane
>>108838168The sex worker isn't grifting anyone nearly as hard as the bourgeoisie that hoards the value of her johns' labor.
>>108838238GFE is the opiate of the masses
>>108823097Notice how she said she's Pro-GFE rather than BFE. If you faggots continue to fall for this, this is why you retards continue to get scammed and butthurt when the girl is happy offline.