How do we save nijien?
>>108840473Didn't they never clear the air or take accountability for that disastrous black stream? It seems pretty obvious. EN vtubing is a very small world
- Fire the clique- Adopt the JP homo collab format rather than the third-wheel cucked pagpag eater format
>>108840473>we
>>108840473second post straight from /#/
I'm sure that if the faggot who made this thread got banned, like half of the catalog would be gone
>>108840473we dont
why did it take that dude 90 minutes to reveal the outfit, what the fuck
>>1088404732500 ccv seems fine
>>108840473We don’t and that’s a good thing
>>108841402It's a botted chart natty is 900-1000
D-dd-dd-ddd-dd-d-d-dd-DOPPIO?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4vIyTPf-z8
>>108841533900-1000... for an outfit reveal stream. You know, the kind of stream that typically gives a vtuber much higher CCV than an ordinary yapping or gaming stream. And he's a male in Niji EN.Niji EN is so cooked that Scarle might as well zap it in the microwave for 7 minutes with ice cream and onion powder.
Vox now pulls like 500-700 ccv.Luca pulls like 900, but he only streams buff games and big reveal moments, and bots himself because of his insecurity.The new homos are heavily botted, but most of them are solid 3-views. The bowlcut guy gets like 300, Kaelix pulls over 1k but is so heavily botted it's hard to know exactly. Leading the boys you have Kaelix, Vanta, and Wilson who can all break 1k especially with fujo buffs, but Krisis solo streams are often firmly 3-view.Leading the girls are Enna and Elira, who pull anywhere from 500-1k depending on content, however they heavily pander to a female audience by constantly talking about the boys and fujo stuff. Almost half the girls have gone the JP route, Meloco stopped even pretending to be EN months ago. Maria does almost as well as Elira but streams in JP hours speaking sporadic japanese.On the low end people like Millie and Finana are having trouble breaking 200 these days. Twisty's wave is a complete disaster and borderline 2view, with one expected to graduate when his contract is up.Many of the remaining talents have not so sublty told their gachis to donate to their PL instead to dodge the Niji cut. Niji lets them get away with it because they're desperate to avoid graduations. Many of them only stay to beg events from JP which they dole out sometimes to keep people from leaving.
>>108843625Surely a new meatwave of organs will help fix this
>>108840783funny of you to assume op faggot is not a janny
>>108844944You see it's funny because more time has passed from BTB's debuts until now, than had passed from Denauth's debuts until BTB's debutsAnd that point was passed nearly 3 weeks ago
>>108841379wait whatI just saw the graph and thought "oh hey that's really good" without checking the stream title. Shame. Doppio is one of the very few remaining good ones.
>>108840522>- Fire the cliqueWhat clique? Enna and Elira? The two most irrelevant members now?
>>108843625wtf are any of them getting out of staying with the company?
>>108847869They are not irrelevant they still run the branch, Elira gets preferential treatment, and any new hires are more or less forced to kiss the ring when they sign up to this barnfire branch of the company
>>108848120Everything.The minute they leave Niji they are considered traitors by the Niji audience and they are considered pariahs by the wider vtubing audience because of their involvement in the mistreatment of Selen. The only male to successfully pivot from Niji was Mysta and he was well gone before the Selen-shock and even then, he's a middlingly successful streamer. The minute they leave Niji, they're fucked.
>>108848326>The minute they (the livers) leave Niji, they're fucked>and other lies Niji EN management uses to try to gaslight the livers into staying in the companyMeanwhile in reality, all of the retired EN members except Aster are enjoying a level of success comparable to their respective levels of success while in Niji EN, and without having to pay Riku half their revenue for the privilege. Yes, even Sayu and Ruru.
>>108848326Miki's doing just fine, and she was from the same gen.Also it's been pretty well established that trying to appeal to what is now Niji's core audience as an EN streamer is an exercise in futility.
>>108849146>Except AsterAnd Kyo.Which are the only two males who have left post Selen and are both shitters.Sayu doesn't count because she left before Selen. Ruru has no relation to NijiEN.
>>108849146Does Kyo count? He did have to pivot back into flesh streaming
>>108849369And Ike, but he hasn't had the balls to return.
>>108849421Fair point. But how is he doing as an IRL streamer (who uses his $10k vtuber avatar when doing collab streams with other vtubers) compared to how he was doing while in Niji? I would imagine he's at least doing better on the net revenue side, since he no longer has to pay the yacht tax on his gross revenue.>>108849435Also fair point. But he is doing significantly better in terms of mental health.>>108849369....I don't even know where to begin with you.>KyoSee above. Also his graduation was announced (right) before Selen's termination, he had turned in his graduation paperwork months before she was suspended, and he was forced to take a one-month delay in his graduation because Pomu graduated in January and management did not want to lose face by having two retirements in the same calendar month.>the only two males who have left post Selen Hex, Ike, and Fulgur send their regards.>Sayu doesn't count because she left before SelenThen I suppose U-san, Matara, Kuro, and Mint don't count either?>Ruru has no relation to NijiEN.Sure she doesn't. I mean it's not like she was a member of the first wave to debut after Selen's termination or anything.
>>108849777Kyo is an irrelevant shitter, Aster is an irrelevant shitter, Hex is an irrelevant shitter, Ike is nowhere to be seen, Fulgur is also an irrelevant shitter.What's the your point again?>Then I suppose U-san, Matara, Kuro, and Mint don't count either?Being deliberately obtuse isn't an endearing quality.
>>108849146The only popular ex nijis are mint, doki, matara and for now miki, everyone else either has roughly the same audience or less. I guess notkotoka too but she has jp corpo buff so it doesnt really countFagoons begged for vivi to leave niji and now notvivi has the same ccv, is like they forgot she exists, Sunny is even more forgettable, notreimu hurt her already small audience with her yabAnd none of the mans have more succes than in niji, even kuro has less ccv
>>108849859What would Kuro's CCV be if he stayed? Roughly what it is now, I imagine, assuming that staying in Niji didn't drive him completely nuts and into an early retirement?
>>108840473That's the fun partWe don't
>>108850013Mysta was literally the single largest male vtuber in the world when he left, usually swapping places with Vox. The fact
>>108841402Not for an outfit reveal
>>108849859Kuro deliberately filtered his fanbase because nijisisters are so annoying he would rather do without than deal with their mental illnesses
>>108850237Yep, I remember. Dude was extremely fucking done with that audience at the time that he bounced.
>>108849777>Then I suppose U-san, Matara, Kuro, and Mint don't count either?NTA but Sayu doesn't count because she was there for like 2 weeks and got zaion'd, which ended up putting her in an even worse position than before corpo both mentally and numbers-wise. That said, she IS doing much better these days mentally from what I've seen, which is nice at least. I think only Kyo and Mysta ended up doing worse than corpo at the time of leaving, but in Mysta's case it's mostly because covid's popularity boost hadn't fallen off yet by the time he left so you'd be comparing him to that, and he drastically changed his content to actively chase off any straggling sisters from his fanbase.Aster was doing horrid even in the corpo so I genuinely don't know if he could possibly be doing worse.
>Blatant fagoon seethe thread You love to see it
>>108850381It's honestly just a bummer seeing some of those streamers wasting away in there. Almost everyone with taste unsubscribed two years ago.
>>108850443>I'm not seething!LOLOLOLOL>>108850454Two more weeks!
>>108850480Riku will keep it going for a while longer, I bet. He's a trust fund baby with deep pockets.
>>108850635>Unironic fagoon seetheKEKAROO
>>108849859>Fagoons begged for vivi to leave niji and now notvivi has the same ccv, is like they forgot she exists, Sunny is even more forgettable, notreimu hurt her already small audience with her yabWhat on earth do "fagoons" have to do with Mogu or Sunny?
>>108850673I don't think dragoons are big on racist babbling. That'd be more of a Kirsche fan thing.
uh oh trannyseethe is so bad he's running to the irc KEKwonder where all these deletions were with all the dox spam elsewhere on the catalog the last few weeks, hmmmm ;))))))))>wacism ;(lollers
damn, look at that silence despite responding off cooldown for an hour ;)ngl I blew a faaaaat ass load when nijien was kill, shit was so cash
Uh oh fagoon melty
>>108850994>>108851170>>108851227looks like Kirsche's stream ended early tonight
>>108850029Yes, but:>>108850237His CCV was higher in Niji than out of Niji, but the extra viewers were sisters. Ultra-parasocial fujos whom he wasn't allowed to filter out of his fanbase, scold, or in any other way antagonize.That's (part of) the reason he left.
>>108849777True, but I was leaning more on his vtuber career flopping to the point of relegating the model to collabs so it's not utterly wasted.
>>108850359>Aster was doing horrid even in the corpo so I genuinely don't know if he could possibly be doing worse.Funnily enough, he actually is doing significantly worse, regardless of whether or not you count "by default" as a reason for him to be doing so much worse now than when he was in Niji.No artist who does models, rigging, or stream assets (overlays/emotes/stingers/etc.) will give him so much as the time of day; nobody else in the EN vtuber scene is willing to even show up in his stream chat or vod comments section, much less actually be on screen with him; he doesn't have the artistic skill to do his own model, rigging, or assets himself; he's either unwilling or unable to buy a pre-made vtuber model on Booth; and the sum total of his streaming skills is "middling League player."And on top of that, the only people who followed him from Niji to his post-Niji streaming "career" left when they saw just how staggeringly unremarkable he is in the looks department. Seriously, he's not even a little ugly, he just looks like a random pedestrian from the "Find The Main Character" meme.He doesn't stream any more. And unlike Ike/Xandu, it's not because he's on a self-imposed mental health hiatus. He stopped streaming because people stopped watching; and people stopped watching because he is (was) an IRL League streamer who stands out like a needle in a needle factory, both in looks and in skill. And the one thing he brings to the table that other League streamers don't is the fact that he did sexual harassment and managed to technically avoid getting fired for it - not exactly something that would endear him to new viewers, or to any old viewers who watched him for anything other than his femboy model or corporate logo.All he does any more is upload clips of his League gameplay. And I can't be arsed to check if he still does even that much.
>>108850359Probably not, he's an average league streamer without anything in particular that makes him standout. Maybe if he went back to cross dressing, but idk if that'd pull numbers.
>>108840783NIJISEETHE
>>108853202See >>108853141 (me). He isn't cute or pretty enough to do IRL femboy content, and he isn't ugly or hairy enough to do "ironic/intentionally unsexy/comedy relief" crossdressing content.And the moment anyone sees him on their radar and does the slightest bit of looking into his history of crossdressing content, they'll find out why he doesn't do that content any more, and he'll be back to square one minus the cost of one or two sets of ladies' clothes in his size.
>>108840473Unironically you have to make Elira femdom porn where she suffocates you with her huge evil milkers.Update Finana's model so she gets her canonically huge tits, and let her goon on fansly or whateveridk how to fix Enna or Millie besides non-con porn
>>108854923>Update Finana's model so she gets her canonically huge titsBased, sometimes I think about the fact that pomu got to sleep next to those tits and ass and I get insanely jealous
>>108854923>Update Finana's model so she gets her canonically huge titsGod PLEASE, I love shortstacks
>>108856300Holy sex
>>108854923who'd be better at quadruple amputee, enna or millie?
>>108840473That's the neat partWe don't
>>108852509Okay, and?
>>108856300Onahole feesh my beloved
>>108840473We save NIJIEN by letting me date Scarle and letting me headbutt Luca a few times.
>>108853141>he did sexual harassment and managed to technically avoid getting fired for it - not exactly something that would endear him to new viewers, or to any old viewers who watched him for anything other than his femboy model or corporate logo.I watched him for the former. I still have the feetcam stream that he did with Finana backed up, it was extremely hot (dude has nice legs and probably not bad stompers under his socks).He's a bummer. Cute voice, not the worst yapper, was willing to mix up his content with stuff like magic tricks. By all accounts of him that I've heard, though, he's a real fucking creep behind the scenes.
Out numbered by HoloID. I spit on NijiEN's grave
>>108858124well love is blind i guess
>>108840473i thought you guys were doing just fine?
