Were they just doomed from the start? They got a nijimale and a TVA dodger and fucking nobody watches them or gave them a chance, despite that boy wave later debuting somewhat fine. Like even for NijiEN they've been at the bottom since debut. From what I've seen, the dude seems... fine? Even stood up for Twisty during/after her termination but somehow gets similar numbers to fucking Finana.
>>108846449>Lose Nijisister support because you stood up for the right thingsWhy are you surprised
>>108846449The only thing that could have saved them is if NijiEN had actually gotten their shit together instead of doubling down on being shit and terminating AND attempting to frame Selen for everything.The whole bringing up "there's no bullying in NijiEN" when her public document never even mentioned it kinda put a smoking gun in their hand.
>>108846804Negro this isnt about Selen this is about Twisty wave
>>108846904Yes, the Twisty wave, which debuted right after management explosive diarrhea'd the bed and while the diarrhea was still warm.The Twisty wave, which debuted just over a month after the emergency deployment of the (heavily castrated) AR Live show, which in turn was only released to try to offset some of the losses of the disastrous FY 2024 Q3 financial report.The Twisty wave, which debuted just long enough after the black screen for people to question whether the three of them had signed their contracts before or after it.Bitch, you think these things happen in a vacuum?
>another niji threaddo you seafags do anything else with your life?
>>108847403>SEAthis is NA/EU hours, anon.
They could have been the best wave in the branch's history, and they still wouldn't have done crazy numbers. They just debuted way too close to the drama surrounding Selen's termination, especially with how the company did a terrible job of addressing the situation. Their higher ups needed to have the image of the company or a mysterious EN manager as being the problem, instead of having 3 of their own talents publicly bury another, the latter really left a terrible taste in many viewers' mouth that took 1 year or more for people to move on from.If you were to ignore Selen's drama, and lets say she was never terminated for example, they'd do better but its also difficult to see them doing better than TTT either. One thing about female corpo vtubers is that they're quickly put into a position where they're either gachikoi friendly with no little to no male collabs or they can collab with anyone. Not that there are no examples of the former in NijiEN still; Aia and Scarle are mostly solo streamers and yet they still bring in revenue for the branch even after Selen's termination, and Selen herself still collabed with tons of dudes while also maintaining a caring relationship with her fans. It's just a difficult tightrope to walk, mainly because the gachikoi friendly example is naturally the most financially viable and gets you more viewers from males viewers, so Denauth's females needed to be super entertaining or appealing to attract male viewership that either left for indies or small corpo girls. Simultaneously being a male corpo vtuber can be a debuff in its own way, as at this point in time you're instantly viewed as a fuckboy looking for an easy lay thanks to now having influence, especially if you do ASMRs, have an ikemen model, or have a softspoken attitude that may or may not be forced. So you either go along with what female viewers expect from NijiEN's brand of male talents or you get left in the dust.tl;dr nevermind they were probably fucked no matter what
idk which retarded shitter thought mixed waves were okay
>>108847776Noor, the indian manager for EN
>>108846449I have no idea what denauth is and that's probably a good thing
>>108846744Some sister did drop him for going agaisnt aster, he didnt defend twisty and it's not clear if they are still friendsBut aside from that the dude constantly uses his corpo account to talk about drama no one gives a fuck about just to get more small corpo pussyAnd 90% of his streams are apex or friendlslop games, self inflicted 2views
>>108849680>he didnt defend twisty and it's not clear if they are still friendsFor whatever reason, sisters were harassing Ryoma about not denouncing Twisty and he told them to fuck off a while ago. I randomly saw some bait threads about it when it went on, but the threads died really quickly because it's not exactly something /vt/ gives a toss about. Apparently it got so bad that they started whining to Klara about Ryoma and even she had to tell them to fuck off (though it was more directed at bothering her about Ryoma). I think similar situations happened like two more times at various points. He was definitely furious with Aster, though, and mentioned that a few times.
>>108846449We don't
>>108846449Klara speaks fluent Japanese so more JP collabs would help but she would have to wait for the 3D queue to go down to even get her 3D. AYAKAKI Speciale Super Elite (only two members) and By the Beat would be ahead of her besides Amamori and Kataribe (if she ever comes back...). Suha 3D debut would be way later for some reason tho. Anycolor just needs to get rid of the 100K requirement like Cover did Hololive...
>>108849980Twisty doesn't do herself many favors since she's menhera as fuck and loves getting into trouble, but its still weird that the sisters have a problem with Ryoma not denouncing Twisty fully. Or at least to a point where they would prioritize their ire on Twisty over Aster.
>>108846744It has nothing to do with what was stood up for, just who. Helping the enemy is basically attacking your fans, or something. Women are nuts.
Nah, Denauth was fucked from the start. Debuted at the worst possible moment. They never had a chance.
>>108846449No
>>108850458Twisty was officially terminated, Aster was not. The sisters (and management) were and almost certainly still are furious with Ryoma because he denounced Aster but did not denounce Twisty.
ryomer is a good egg
>>108856679kinda funny because anyone with a brain could see that the aster situation was far worse than twisty. she may have been a menhera but the refusal to punish aster means that a bunch of anycolor higherups were also at fault
>>108846449>He thinks BY THE BEAT (Yes, that's the wave name, I had to look it up) is doing fineBro I don't know how to tell you this, but every NijiEN streamer is botted to the gills now.
>>108861812>anycolor higherupsnone of them speak english, they don't know shit about EN's situation and there's almost no EN management in the first place