>>108904165
thanks for reminding me to subscribe

>>108904165
Remember when a certain fanbase used to mock Pekora for not gaining subs for a long time? This, too, is also karma.

>>108904165
Next time try to put some effort in your bait, retard.

>>108904275
Kys pekomiko schizo

>>108904165
Just another 244 times more and she's over fr fr!

>>108904165
less than 0.5% btw

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>>108904165
A negligible amount. Just ignore the fact that Koyori got mindbroken after losing 10k subs and immediately started begging people to subscribe to her channel!
https://x.com/hakuikoyori/status/2015414525269594269

>>108904524
That's what she always does anon. She even had the guts to put a massive ad asking people to subscribe to her channel in the middle of, i think, her new year's celebration pic.

>>108904165
>-10k yet AGAIN
It's so over.

ITT : anons discover the YT culls.

>>108904165
Miko was never about big subs count, she said it herself but her average and members count still remains high and could still mog your oshi everytime she streams

>its n-not that much
>look at these dead subs
lol

>>108904165
she was 2.47 mil few weeks ago, minus 30k in few weeks is a big drama tier

talk to me when she's averaging 10k viewers, there are people who have more subs than her but they get less live viewers numbers and average CCV than Miko

>>108904957
She repeated a few lines from a horse racing stream and told fans to stop worrying when they sent concernfag superchats that got deleted. Just as bad as killing a puppy. Nips are pathetic.

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Is all this still from the dumb horse drama or did something else happen?

>>108904992
Other than antis digging up things from 5 years ago and twisting thins to make Miko look evil? No. Nips are just easily manipulated.

>>108904992
build up of internal turmoil from graduation rush and hachaama spill the beans

>>108905076
Antis pulled off a masterclass getting people to blame Miko for everything. Even though every clip from Haachama and others proves them wrong, nips are just too fucking braindead to think for themselves.

>>108904165
I used to feel sorry for Nijinigs with all the shit they got on here. Now I realize they truly are subhuman wretches who don't have any other purpose in life but to hate what is good and true about the world

>>108904992
>left for a week
>forgot to tell your fans to not being a bunch of retards online
>they were acting like a bunch of retards online and attacking everything in sight
>came back
>spent less than 3 minutes reading an apology from the script which aimed at no one at all
>Cover still hasn't able to get the green channel to issue a statement like Nintendo did with mod ROM yab
>forgot to tell your fans to refrain from acting like a bunch of savages again
>now even normalfags with actual prestige in society are ticked off by those retards and suddenly this whole situation became bigger than it should be

>>108905135
nah, the accusations was there before that with the leak of graduation date on anti site but it is gaining strong support after haachama stream

>>108905244
>with actual prestige in society

>>108905244
Chink nigger.

>>108905244
>they were acting like a bunch of retards online and attacking everything in sight
All they did was tell the antis to kill themselves, which is pretty restrained actually. Talk shit get hit, you can't cry about it when you're acting like a retard.

>>108905250
Meanwhile, Haachama, not long before that stream:
https://youtu.be/VdsO8t2FnMI
Again. Nips are braindead and can't think for themselves.

>>108905336
Chinks an antis don't realize how pathetically weak and feminine this makes them look to anyone outside asia

>>108905244
>Constantly attacked with comments (with users who have 1 to 3 total comments on the channel) on all her videos, streams, and shorts (still ongoing)
>Hololive moderation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7TV0bRmOtY
What should the fans have done? Watch?

>>108905244
>with actual prestige in society
is there some kind of raid to day or something? Is someone testing out a new bot?
Where are all of these bizarre ESLs coming from?

>>108905467
Some unironic esl nip keeps entering these threads to try and convince people that everything the antis are attacking Miko for are legit. Unfortunately for him overseas fans can actually look for themselves unlike his jap brethren.

>>108905434
Have you considered that having a moral high ground is actually better than wrestling with antis and creating weaknesses for them to take advantage of? All of that time could have been used to go around and butter up other fanbases so that they might feel some responsibility to step in and speak nicely about (you) and Miko. But no, you have to turn it into an online war. Even #Oversea35P, the most successful attempt at countering antis, ended up singling out Miko, 35P and antis. You might think antis have no moral high ground, but most people would just look into it as Miko and fans vs people who don't like Miko and her fans, which doesn't exactly help your cause. You know the principle of the more people agree with me, the more righteous I am? Just beg other fanbases to speak up for you and gain some credibility instead of taking away their reason to join in by acting like a bunch of aggressive savages.

>>108905938
Fuck off, other fanbases aren't going to help because they having nothing to lose if Miko gets taken down a peg. You didn't use to have to beg and grovel for Hololive fans to help a talent being harassed by chinks and antis on this level. Hololive fanbase unity is dead and buried, every fanbase is on their own from now on.

>>108905938
Suck a dick.

>>108906047
>You might think antis have no moral high ground,
They don't.
>>108905938
>they having nothing to lose if Miko gets taken down a peg
?????
What kind of retard thinks that somebody else being "taken down a peg" helps their own streamer or situation somehow?

>>108905509
Seems like it. This shit is absurd. I can't even comprehend the levels of primitive logic they must be operating on.

>RAWR MIKO BIG ME STREAMER SMALL
>MUST MAKE MIKO SMALL THEN ME STREAMER BIG

>>108906310
>What kind of retard thinks that somebody else being "taken down a peg" helps their own streamer or situation somehow?
It doesn't help them but it also doesn't hurt them. Why dirty your hands fighting chinks and antis for another member when it only puts your own oshi at risk? That's the mentality these days and that's why this anti campaign has been so successful.

>>108905938
>acting like a bunch of aggressive savages.
You don't get to go around spewing hate at Hololive members then complain about aggressive savages when you get piledrived for being a retard faggot.

>>108904972
Miko's bots are just too powerful, whether it's Cover doing it or some of her fanbase

>>108907154
we already have ZA KINGU engine. What should we call this one?

>>108907154
lmao ironic coming from nijibots always botting nijishit streams, also Miko doesn't need any bots to get a lot of viewers, it's all natural

It's over. graduation next

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>>108907337
yes, anon, very natural

>>108908074
>viewers went up when it's her turn to play
lol retarded nijinig

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>>108904524
I love Koyori

Some ironic behaviour in this thread when it's calling for fanbase unity. Though it hardly needs to be pointed out

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>>108908603
There is no need for any unity anymore, if antis and chinks want war, they get the war. hololive is a sinking ship now.

>>108908319
Cute!

>>108909207
Isn't Holo vs. Holo exactly the scenario that antis want to encourage?

is there a qrd on this whole thing? i don't usually follow, but i've been seeing this on the catalog a lot

>>108909157
>except the main POV, Miko gets more likes more live viewers more comments
lmao and antis are also viewbotting pekhora and Subaru stream so they get more views

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>>108908319
MODS!

>>108909247
35P have decided it's Miko vs everyone now, and as long as the cancer within the management like taro, takayuki, hayashi and the rabbit whore still there, we all know how it's gonna end for Miko. so might as well drag everyone and destroy hololive along with it

>>108909364
>35P have decided it's Miko vs everyone
I don't think Hololive fans hate Holomems. That sounds like falseflagging

>>108909623
Because it is. This entire shitfest has been a few Chinese antis falseflagging for weeks.

>>108909623
that's simply not true. pekhora's fans hate Miko and other holomems who are close to her, that's how the muh Miko faction shit startrd. noufaggys have been exposed and they are the ones who started regurgitating all these anti shit about Miko. If Miko goes down, all hololive will also follow

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>>108904992
It's not even that bad, Sloplome just had a -10k subscribers for no reason.

>>108909788
How much social credit did you get for this post?

>>108909291
>Haachama has a mental breakdown on stream where she insinuates being left out of "Hololive parties" after Fubuki shows up in chat, who had just come back from a housewarming party at Miko's place
>Antis make the rrat Miko is purposefully excluding Haachama for being unpopular, conveniently ignoring that Haachama was off her meds and sleep-deprived when she was venting, along with her history of ghosting other members due to social anxiety
>Miko directly addresses these concerns, not so much to defend herself but to denounce using Holomembers to attack others
>Kanata's graduation sparked another discussion of a communication imbalance within the company along with certain members such as Miko and the party clique being given preferential treatment
>Miko repeats lines from a paid horse racing channel during a stream, and high-value SCs sent to warn her against doing so are deleted by a moderator, which antis spin as her being flippant to fans, conveniently ignoring how trolls can chargeback SCs with little effort
>Falseflaggers bait fans into being aggressive so they can point out how rude and delusional they are
>All while mistakes from years ago and Pekora's obvious attempts to avoid interaction are brought back to light
At this point, you can safely assume that anyone insulting any Holomember, no matter how deserved it is, is an anti or falseflagger.

>>108909853
shitlome is an old fad so it is within the realm of expection unlike mishitko

>>108909850
>>108909904
Miko was never about having a lot of subs, she still mogs all nijishit or even other holos who have more subs than her (in case of nijishit they dont have anyone who has more subs than Miko lol) in average CCV, live viewers, memberships, likes, chat speed, merch sales lmao what more embarrassing is even when her subs is decreasing she still mogs them lol

>>108909857
Something unique about deception is it's often used to play both sides. Encouraging and amplifying internal divisions is a very old trick. That's one of the problems with the PekoMiko rupture. It's so bizarre it's easy to identify as a friction point, and then it's easy to recruit the gullible into being activated to become antis themselves. In the end, everyone will suffer. But they won't realize until it's too late, if they can even bear to admit it.

>>108910035
I'm not playing both sides, I'm only on Miko's side, will always be on Miko's side

>>108909850
Why did you hide the +10k on 16th of January?

>>108904992
Japs get mad for things I don't understand why, I remember another vtuber fanbase getting up in arms because he opened a folder that had AV on it. They were not mad about the porn, they were mad because he clearly pirated them and that is terrible, apparently.

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>>108909157
Miko still has higher overall watch time, so things aren’t as bad as they might look at first glance. If Pekora and Subaru want to rise to the top, they’ll have to deal with sukonbu and miofa, since those groups often treat Miko as their go-to second option.
The tricky part is this: Subaru actually has a solid chance of replacing Miko as a secondary watch for sukonbu and miofa, but she doesn’t have the support of the 3rd gen fanbase. Pekora, on the other hand, has very strong backing from 3rd gen fans, but she’ll probably never become the default second choice for sukonbu and miofa.
In the end, the battle for the throne will likely come down to a few key factors:
1) Koronesuki and Onigiryaa
Miko will want to win over these two groups, since locking down the core gamers' fanbases as a set is a huge advantage. Subaru should be aiming for the same goal, but she’s currently behind Miko in that race and eill never catch up unless Miko self-destruct harder. For Pekora, stopping Miko from completing the set might be just as important as expanding her own reach.
2) Fans of 4th gen, 5th gen, and holoX
This is more of an open field, but Pekora has a slight edge and a narrative that could help her gain support from these groups. Simply being a 3rd gen member already makes her more approachable to them compared to Gen 0 or gamers members, who feel more like the “old guards” with stronger internal standing in the company.
3) DEV IS
This branch was created to target a different demographic and could bring major benefits in the future. Whoever builds the strongest relationships with these kouhai will have a serious shot at becoming Hololive’s #1 down the line
As for attracting new fans and casual viewers, due to streaming style, right now it is Pekora > Subaru > Miko
As for hardcore fan retention: Miko > Subaru > Pekora

Also please subscribe to Koyori if you haven't already

>>108909901
Nousagifags pretended to be 35p and manipulated real 35p to attacking Marine but end in failure, became racist and got banned.

>>108910088
Miko told you already that how you act isn't acceptable.
>As Sakura Miko, I want to deliver fun, laughter, and hope.
>I wanted to fight negativity by doing that.
>I know this should go without saying, but I’ll say it clearly again:
>Please stop harassment and slander.
>This isn’t just me.
>Every talent experiences this differently,
>But harassment is something VTubers — and creators in general — constantly struggle with.
>There are also people who spread things maliciously,
>People who pretend to be fans while attacking,
>Or people who try to elevate their favorite by attacking another talent.
>But what truly supports us — more than anything — Are your words of encouragement.
>Your love.
>Your support.
>Thank you so much, always.
>To those who have been watching quietly and enduring alongside me — Thank you, truly.
If you don't respect what she says, honestly, you're not much of a fan. Those are her words. They're not mine. As for Miko, when you attack another talent, you're still attacking Hololive and setting a precedent that malice is acceptable, that hate is acceptable, that it's ok for fans to slander other talents. Do you think that's going to help here when you're saying "attacking talents is acceptable?" I doubt you understand, but it's why people like you are known as toxic. You're not defending her by what you're doing.

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>>108910188
It's very difficult for Heimin to support Pekora right now because Nousagi has impersonated Heimin and gotten into a real fight with the real Heimins in the final Heimin thread.

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>>108910275
What if Nousagi falseflag as 35P and incites 35P to bully and attack Marine like they did yesterday? Schizo nousagi did that yesterday in Sakura miko's last thread and got caught and told to fuck off.

>>108910424
Exactly the kind of thing I mean. It's easy to larp online. It's a lot harder to spot someone who's good at pretending and mostly wants to just cause others grief.

>>108910169
kek was it a nijifag with the nipple twisting fetish

>>108910719
So what are we supposed to do? Because that lunatic schizo racist nousagi is definitely not going to stop.

>>108910275
sorry but this is the last straw, everyone is attacking Miko so the only way for this to end is to fight back and attack everyone

>>108910775
>>108910790
Excuses and rationalizations, and not even good ones. Miko also told you what to do.
>But what truly supports us — more than anything — Are your words of encouragement.
Maybe listen to her? Writing her a letter and encouraging her is a 1000% better than trashing another Holomems behind an anonymous account.

>>108910949 (me)
Should say I meant that about slandering other Holomems. Calling out and exposing actual antis is fair game.

>>108910949
Then I will focus only schizo racist Nousagi alone. Because this bastard nousagi has gone around destroying the lives of many people.

> Haatons
> Heimins
> Suisei
> 35p
> and now Ichimin

>>108909857
None. It's the Aussie living in Japan pretending to be the Miko ritualposter from /jp/ again.

>the #1 Holoanti on 4chan is an Aussie faggot
m00t wasn't kidding when he said Australians were the worst

>>108904204
Fake fan

>>108904709
Nah twitter retards are claiming people are unsubbing thanks to all those Miko nothingburgers

>>108904165
Imagine if her name was Chico

>>108910790
False flagging anti. You make 35p look bad and make it worse for Miko. Just shut the fuck up and support Miko, and even better support other holomems too instead of bashing them.

>>108910424
This dog shit grammar is familiar. I remember you but I can't remember your name.

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>>108912258
just an old guard nousagi who doesn't hate Mikochi.

>>108904165
shut up noufagi kill yourself

>>108912258
He's an indonesian ksonfaggot who LARPs as several hololive fanbases. Is his identity known?

>>108904165
Weekly humiliation ritual

>>108912085
>and even better support other holomems too
LOL
Other fanbases can be apathetic about Miko's current situation and sit back and watch while she gets harassed out of the company by chinks and antis, by I have to support their oshis? I'm not going to attack or bash any holomem, but sincerely, fuck you

>>108909901
>Miko repeats lines from a paid horse racing channel during a stream
qrd? what happened

>>108912543
>I'm not going to attack or bash any holomem
You do that every day though.

>>108912554
No? Or are we going to do the thing where we accuse 8 different anons of being the same person?

>>108912494
If he also is tasofag, He may be famous oil baron from Brunei Darussalam in taso chat.

>>108912577
You raging at other holos fanbases is a telltale sign of you being the 35P archetype that's always shitting on other holos.

>>108912660
I don't though. I'm just disappointed that Hololive has become every man for himself. And if that's how it is then I'll oblige. I'll still support holomem that I feel are offering Miko real support during these times.

>>108912660
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Haatons and Hoshiyomies got bullied by Nousagis. Heimin and 35P thread were completely messed up.

And now you're saying we shouldn't do anything on schizo nousagi like that? Should we let schizo racist nousagis continue to harm others holos fanbase?

>>108912744
How about you do something about your kind first? That cuckfaggi/pehoera/noufaggy faggot is your own kind

>>108912787
He's a nousagi

>>108912787
He is racist nousagi pretending to be nousagi antis and talked to himself.

>>108912787
What can anyone do about that? Most people ignore him or tell him to fuck off.

>>108904165
>retarded chinks mass sub to +10k subs again
>retarded chinks then mass unsubs to get a -10k subs
>its like the 5th time theyve done it already
>surely nobody will remember this time

>>108913185
is that the current cope?

>>108913169
They can't... that faggot nousagi just spammed post and pretended to be Vtuber fan in heimin and 35p thread.

This faggot cause drama until those thread become unuseable.

>>108905509
Reminds me of that time a bunch of them came from 2ch to try make us hate Hololive by posting clips of them saying mildly racist stuff in some game.
Their realization when we were all saying "based" and trying to decipher it was funny as fuck

>>108913185
That would explain it if she went back up then dropped again. Time to accept that nips are abandoning her and that the antis have successfully brainwashed a bunch of gullible morons.

>>108913169
This bastard nousagi just pretending to be 35p and trying to make real 35p attacking Marine and ichimin.

>proof?
> the latest Miko thread.

>>108910169
At least if you live in Japan, you could just buy the AVs because they are cheap and easy to get unlike here in the west. Still I don't really get why nips are so against piracy when it's just way more convenient most of the time

>>108910169
>>108910766
>his fans just thought it was funny
>he got a shoutout from the chicks in the film
Why can’t other fanbases be like that? None of that weird pearl clutching

>>108904165
Is this just for the horse shit? Or did she do something else?

>>108913460
It's the rules autism. The rules are the rules and you MUST obey and respect THE RULES! Even when it has nothing to do with them personally

>>108913596
The horse shit, apparently didn't treat the people warning her nicely enough, her apology wasn't good enough, look at this made up drama from 5 years ago that nobody involved would even care about anymore etc.

>>108906047
Miko should graduate though, so you can go.

>>108913590
most fanbases are like that and most spergouts are by people who hate all vtubers

>>108912695
Ever since graduations started everyone is sticking to their oshi and getting ready to grab their bags if she is the next one to go.

>>108904992
Miko shouldn't be losing that much subs from just Holo antis. There has been talk of favoritism for long a time from other talents with no context. Ex: Mumei talking about the difference of talents who didn't live in Japan vs those who do with the former being completely left out of the loop; Kiara talking about the Hologra and EN talents not being selected unless they were in Japan; ID talents talking about not getting selected. Gura's parting words in Holotalk about hoping "everyone" got to experience their idol moment like she did are some examples. Haachama outing or believing that talents themselves are apart of the favoritism and making actions to only include certain people really put a focal point on that problem. Haachama being shadowed realm after didn't really help.

The JP people who were mad about the horse racing thing put all their dots together including the weird dynamic with Peko and Miko and started anti-ing Miko. Is this fair to Miko? No idea but explains why this has more sticking power. I noticed antis who are EN people will try to dox the talent as their extreme while eastern fans just go a lot harder on this so maybe that is also a factor?

>>108913729
There are retards who think that 1 week break is cover suspending her iirc

>>108914568
It's benefit to Miko if they think that way.

>>108914531
In the end, Miko making breaking out of her shell and making friends that she likes to collab and hang out with ended up getting her hated. What a world.

this all seems like a big nothingburger

>>108914590
It should be, but Japan.

>>108914590
JP drama is usually nothingburgers. It's a damn minefield where the fans (or antis) get angry over the pettiest shit.

>>108904165
One thing is clear nousagis are antis

>>108905244
>even normalfags with actual prestige in society
This HAS to be a chink, right?
Even they would care about such things

>>108905244
>>now even normalfags with actual prestige in society
I feel sick just reading this
Good god, you Chink bug can't help yourself even when you try to shitpost as a reasonable human being

>>108909853
Losing -10k is fucking nothing because when your sub count is that high, youtube only shows 10k increments. Losing 1 sub is losing 10k. Miko has lost 30k. There's no way to spin that as just being a few randoms or a bot purge. At least not without admitting bots were a large portion of her recent growth to begin with. Which would be a weird angle to take. Only Miko and other people who can directly access the channel could confirm that since they would be able to see how the subs are going up and down. Is it consistent or just random drops out of nowhere. Nobody actually cares about subs because they don't impact any metrics past a certain point. If anything they make channels look worse because you have so many subs but nowhere near that many users who still engage with your content. The problem of dead subs that users like Gura were most known for.

>>108912660
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>>108914494
The Pekomiko schizo is replying to himself again

>>108914601
Only place worse is South Korea

>>108909901
you can chargeback superchats? how?

>>108905938
Kind of agree but not with the buttering up part. Anyone who points out an issue with Miko and the response or the weird behind the scenes stuff that has been going on for a while are blanket labeled as antis and the newstubers fueling this black and white approach doesn't help.

I think there are a good number who disagree with people mad at Miko on the horse racing stuff but see issues else where.

>>108914841
>Anyone who points out an issue with Miko and the response or the weird behind the scenes stuff that has been going on for a while
Enlighten me.

>>108912545
There is a Japanese horse racing website that lets you buy a livestream for the day's races that includes commentary. Concern trolls were saying that by repeating what the commentators said, she was leaking paid content and stealing/breaking ToS or whatever. Other popular streamers have done the same thing with zero backlash, but suddenly Miko crossed a line and needed to naked dogeza.

>>108914910
It's very weird that the American userbase is pretending this was ever about Green Channel. Green Channel was just the first time anything they said seemed to get mainstream traction (but even that wasn't actually the Green Channel part that got traction, it was Cover moderators deleting superchats from antis who happened to have 35P memberships). Both before and after that it's been the same people making up a new controversy to complain about, they just want Miko terminated and afraid to return as an indie. Miko's content has been completely controlled by the antis for months.

>>108904275
if karma is real, i wouldn't trade a bucket of piss for Peko's future

>>108914965
I never said it was "about" Green Channel, I was explaining its significance as part of the bigger picture. But yes, buying memberships so they can say she punishes fans who step out of line is another weapon in their arsenal. It was getting so bad she's apparently made member streams only available to non-gift tiers.

>>108914910
that's like saying spoiling a movie is copyright infringement

>>108914582
Maybe? Miko got selected for Tokyo ambassador twice in a row; Miko's friend got the third statue slot in Cover's office over ID; the recent Pops recent with Ina being left out of the Myth set and replaced with Miko, the subtle divide with the JP members that goes passed Miko and Pekora's conflict.

On the other hand from an oversea's view Miko has always been one of the sempais that is always there for her kohais. Maybe a lot of it is management? Whatever the cause I just hope facts and truth to come out ahead rather than rrats.

i believe most of the antis are just general holo-antis and people who hate vtubers jumping into the dogpile. they get their shallow rrats from matome/dramatubers and jump on social media spouting shit. theyre focused on miko due to her popularity and taking advantage of her cold relationship with pekora as an opening to incite inter-fandom fighting.

i predict that as miko slows down her activity and cools off a bit, her spot on stream charts will slowly fall down to 2nd/3rd and suddenly 90% of anti activity on her will vanish. i believe these people just go for whoever is large/popular since they dont actually have any principled stance on any topics, such as horseracing info, its just finding some to attack and forming rrats that best suits the target to attack them

>>108914910
>Other popular streamers have done the same thing with zero backlash, but suddenly Miko crossed a line and needed to naked dogeza.
It's because she picked up the concern troll. It's far harder to blame someone for a wrongdoing they are unaware of. She should of simply ignored the comment or apologized, rather than taking the middlepath that just makes everything worse.

>>108915154
>Miko got selected for Tokyo ambassador twice in a row
It was only once? It just lasted multiple years.
>Miko's friend got the third statue slot in Cover's office over ID
These statues are sold as scale figures, ID will never, ever, ever get one. Miko herself still hasn't gotten one.
>the recent Pops recent with Ina being left out of the Myth set and replaced with Miko
No idea, but in the end it's the most popular streamer in the company being made into merch. Not that weird.
>the subtle divide with the JP members
I don't know how you can pin this on Miko if it's even a real thing. She collabs with literally everyone in the company, she does the most collabs of anyone in the company. Are you actually buying into the faction shit?

Anti and especially nijiniggas are some of the most mentally ill people especially looking at this thread. I await the day your black company burns to the ground due to karma because it coming soon you faggots.

>>108909623
it's exactly what it is, and you boost it by replying (or samefagging)

The only real divide in JP is Pekora refusing to acknowledge Miko even exists and the rest of the girls having to walk on eggshells around the bunny's seething autism

>>108915154
>Miko's friend got the third statue slot in Cover's office over ID
Yep, that was all thanks to Miko.

>>108915173
Holo antis are always around though. The dramatubers, at least on the EN side, are all on Miko's side painting this as a black and white anti thing. To lose subs like this is Niji EN level stuff. It can't just be from one mad fanbase from another place.

>>108915154
I love how even you antis have to bare your whole ass right from the start when favoritism comes down to "actually she's been completely shafted by Cover and made to look like they hate her but because they support someone else who supports her, we'll just say that this counts as favoritism for her".

Put your guess for how many days chinks and nijiniggers are going to keep making threads about this nothingburger

>>108915353
Like Miko has been talking for the last few years about wanting a Fes statue. Then last year she's passed over for Marine and FubuMio. Not saying they don't deserve one, but Cover clearly has no problem making duo statues so it's bizarre the miComet didn't get a statue together. I don't want to hear shit about favoritism if she doesn't get one this year.

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>>108915265
>most popular
Was never Miko and those people don't get pushed like Miko has. Marine's sub count is night and day from Miko's
>but watch time
Yet still didn't have the subs, which aren't impacted by raids. Outside of the twitch sphere and in JP, subs count waaay more. Just look at how Fuwamoco have been pushing it with the counter on every stream, Sub pushing streams, etc. The dogs have a direct line into JP management and what they want.

>>108915440
>TNot saying they don't deserve one
You clearly are saying that.

>>108915469
>Marine's sub count is night and day from Miko's
Yeah, the amount of dead subs she has is ridiculous for someone who's mid level in popularity at best.

>>108915469
Strictly speaking, youtube cares more about ads but I guess what youtube-kun cares about doesn't matter in the financial report

>>108915486
If you actually read what he said, in his timeline nobody's statue would have come any later. Miko would have just been done with Suisei. His point is the output on statues has massively increased but Miko is still passed over. He even left out Fuwamoco getting one. That's five people in quick succession. If Miko doesn't get one this year, it's going to mean they either stop making them or somehow skip her for a bunch of less obvious picks. Subaru is like the only other person left who obviously qualifies on the first tier and then maybe Mori or something for an EN rep.

>>108915553
They weren't doing pair statues when Suisei's came out so he's clearly saying Marine should be skipped for Miko.

>>108915469
Subs alone are fucking worthless past the 1m milestone. 1m sounds good when you look for sponsors, but past certain point you need the other stats to actually support it.

>>108915553
I could see them doing HowaMiko statutes. Or Mikkorone. But I can also see it being OkaKoro. Genuinely have no idea what Cover will do this year. Just really hope Miko finally gets one, I want the scale figure.

>>108915553
I forgot to mention there's also the Okayu Korone angle that they will definitely go for (without Korone even being there if it's at Fes). It will probably be Subaru, Okayu×Korone and Mori for the statues this year and no Miko. Yet somehow nobody will notice the Gamers favoritism where they basically get ahead precisely because they are so marketable as a friend group and are often marketed as two pairs.

>>108915609
He literally said explicitly that they could have done a pair with Micomet you fucking illiterate clown.

>>108915609
If it was just Marine last year I wouldn't think much of it. But I was even saying before they revealed the FubuMio statues that micomet statues would have been a good idea. Stop putting words in people's mouths because you want to argue.

>>108904165
Are actual japs angry at Miko? Yes
Are they a miniscule, small fraction of her total fanbase? Yes
Face it, a 10k plus or drop is meaningless in the face of her 2mil subscriber count
This is a nothingburger

>>108915635
And I just told you they weren't doing pair figures then so they couldn't have, you fucking moron.

>>108915640
Suisei happened before Marine when they weren't doing pair statues so it couldn't have happened.

>>108915659
It is 30k over three weeks aka weekly humiliation ritual

>>108915662
So now you're just admitting that you're pretending to be retarded? To what end? Nobody bites bait that obvious.

>>108915699
You keep saying they could have done micoment during a time when they weren't doing pair figures. You're the retard here.

>>108915699
>Nobody bites bait that obvious
nta but you literally are biting
thinking "I know it's bait" then replying anyway means you're already reeled in

>>108904165
Losing 10k sociopaths as potential viewers is a huge blessing. Hopefully they all kill themselves too.

>>108915469
Miko is way more popular and successful than Marine.

#Overseas35P is such a fun watch desu
That one chink 35p doctor use took a picture in CT scan room and call anti a cancer that he will take care of then get dogpiled by normie into deleting post and privated account lmao

>>108915759
Marine has almost double the subs. She is objectively better than Miko.

>>108915469
I don't know, I think a shrine maiden that has a cherry blossom motif is more appropriate for Tokyo Ambassador than a girl cosplaying a pirate. That may have had something to do with it when their actual popularity is pretty close.

>>108915765
Another problem with his post is that there is no way his boss would have allowed him to take photo had he known the retard was going to upload it online with that kind of tweet. Imagine having your boss trust you and you betray his trust by pulling shit like that

>>108915832
She is objectively worse because way less people watch her and buy her stuff despite having all of those subs.

>>108915857
Are you guys mad about being called cancer or are you clutching pearls over some dude taking a pretty harmless photo in an unused room? At first it was the former, but now that your quack doctor was exposed for doing the same you are heavily pushing the later.

>>108915832
Marine at her peak was the undisputed queen of vtubing, but she is long past that now

>>108915659
>Are actual japs angry at Miko? Yes
Wait she legit did something to make people angry? QRD? I thought it was just another troll thread lol

>>108915886
Miko was always more popular than her.

>>108915866
>way less people watch her
Yeah, no. I can look at their live page right now and their average view counts are pretty much the same.
>but CCV
CCV is a meaningless metric that only numbermonkeys care about.

>>108915880
The result speaks for itself. The retard ran away with his tail between his legs. Are you really so morally bankrupt that you’d defend that kind of behavior?

>>108915903
People are not angry at her. Subhumans are.

>>108915944
They were doxing him no shit he fucked off. Compared to targeted harassment and blatant slander? Yeah, what he did was nothing. Also your esl is showing, at least you're using a better translation tool this time.

>>108915940
you know if ccv mattered at all, youtube would showcase it somewhere in the description box

>>108904165
Reminder
Zhang was already captured along with his family and 3000 soldiers
Next it's your turn

>>108915958
Are these subhumans in the room with us?

>>108915975
Quite a lame excuse, anon. You know that is not even true. But surely just simply blaming someone for your own shortcoming is more convenient, am I right?

>>108916037
Now you're posting gibberish. Take more English lessons. I will side with a person taking a harmless photo over the subhumans harassing a girl on Twitter for months and months. If you wouldn't then you're the exact cancer he was talking about.

>>108915903
People started making anti threads, videos and shit about her and how she's a shit person, like every fanbase there are retards who actually fell for the bait, was it enough for 30k people to unsub to her? fuck no that's either a YT cull or subbots being taken out, is her career in jeopardy? LMAO nope, she's still the queen, will it affect miko? she already said she'll take it easy but still stream, that she's chilling, will it affect 35P? absolutely, because of the harrassment miko realized life is precious and decided to take it easy, that means less streams, so while the zhang didn't get her to graduate or to cry on stream, they managed to awaken her inner woman and to take her job easy which resulted in 35p having way less streams
Who lost? who won? the only one winning was Miko desu, all the rest lost

>>108916008
The probability of that is more than zero.

>>108915688
So? They're just numbers

>>108916037
You japs make it so obvious when you come here. Nobody outside of your island would give a single fuck about most of the shit you're getting angry over. You should really stop trying to convince people here, you look pathetic.

>>108916069
You sure have a way with words. A harmless photo can turn into something harmful if the poster decides to be a retard with his words. Listen here, you little shithead, you don't ask your boss for permission to take a photo at your workplace just to go online and use it in a tweet with provocative content. That is being irresponsible

>>108908263
jesus christ it just keeps getting worse

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>>108916193
That dude could have told all of her antis to kill themselves and I would side with him over you.

>>108916251
Sure, everyone has the freedom to be a retard and side with their retarded friends. But having an extra retard doesn't make you the majority nor validate your opinion. It also didn't change the reality that the guy you agreed with at the cost of your integrity ran away in shame

>>108904524
God, I look up to her so much. I admire her grind, a true professional I wish I had her drive

>>108916337
Still better than someone who " pretend " to be other fan and cause havoc to innocent people.

>>108916337
Your racist nousagi smell is leaking anon.
Why are you not watching Pekora stream?

>35p vs. nousagi war
Starts to look like classic falseflagging doesn't it.

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>>108916773
It's not only 35p, remainning Heimin will fight this faggot bastard racist nousagi alongside with 35p. Racist nousagi pretended to be fake heimin and want heimins hate Miko and attacking 35p but end in failure but this faggot cause fight and drama with other Heimins so much until thread was unuseable.

Not only that, Haatons also was bullied by "this" nousagi by " Haachama is nobody" when Haatons scare about chammer graduation.

>>108904165
I don't believe that Miko runs a mean girls clique. It is just too different from her stream personality. Some vtubers make it believable with their on air personality. But not Miko.

>>108917425
Miko just gets the blame because she's the most popular. Most of the get togethers don't happen a her home.

>>108917425
Literally nobody who proposes a clique thinks Miko runs it. She's like the fifth most important person in the made-up clique, three others do all the actual organizing and connection-making and another one is the one with industry credibility. Yet nobody attacks any of them, in fact the same antis that will say Miko leads this group will also say she stole all her legitimacy by leeching off them which requires they are the ones with power and only lend it to her.

>>108917139
Least obvious nijinigger

which one of you is schizo posting in the discord

>>108917531
In short, Miko's too stupid for something like this.

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>>108917571
Not this time faggot. You can recheck if I was right or not in the latest Heimin and Miko threads.

>>108917640
>pakistan time
gross

>>108917531
Who is the true mastermind?

>>108917756
Upper echelon who control "rrat" and " leak" policy.

>>108917756
Faceless executives in non-talent side and China with jp nousagis.

>>108914579
Only to get mad when nothing changes when she returns. It's like they're setting up for disappointment and get mad at the results

>>108917756
I was just talking about talents, obviously there's the complete schizo angle where managers and executives are in the cliques but then the obvious one retards go to is Yagoo (imagining he has real power when he clearly has none) but again, they don't attack Yagoo, they attack Miko. They paint Yagoo as the Harvey Weinstein of the vtuber industry but because they are Chinks they think in that scenario, he should be left alone and the people he raped should be fired.

>>108916076
>people making videos and shit about her
I've just seen all the English ones juicing Miko up and dismissing everything as anti shit. Threads are the same. Where are you seeing this?

>>108917918
They attack Yagoo via Miko.

>>108918364
Find an example of that instead of the reverse and I may believe you.

>>108915759
Subs shouldn't be a problem then. Should be neck and neck at least.

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>>108918438
Miko doesn't have the subs because she didn't exploit shorts and has no reason to.

>>108918331
It's that virgin mary and his AI slop videos I think

>>108918432
Plenty of it... antis and nousagis narrative are " Miko is favorite daughter of Yagoo".
That mean they attack Yagoo by attacking Miko at the same time.

>>108910188
>>108909157

Man I watch a lot of streams and clips and bought some merch, but it saddens me that I could never be this autistic

Also already subbed to Koyori since she streams a lot and she's cute

>>108913239
Screencap?

>>108913239
Was it GTAV when a bunch of them said nigga

>>108915145
Yep this is why the whole thing is retarded. Doesn't stop anits from saying Cover has to terminate Miko over that crap

>>108904275
35P deserve the worst

>>108919572
Yeah yeah, we already know the reason for this anti campaign. You don't have to repeat it.

>>108918994
Yeah. Trying to turn it into a yab was fucking retarded because 1) they were just parroting the game, 2) it happened a million years ago and 3) absolutely nobody in Japan cares

Another yab they're pushing as huge is that Migo "stole" some land from Katana in Minecraft or something 5 YEARS AGO and this apparently proves that they hated each other and Miko caused Kanata to graduate

>>108918994
Pretty sure it's Fubuki saying Chocoball when seeing a ni

>>108915214
>or apologized
Chink antislop guzzler alert.
It's like you have never even watched her stream to know how she picks up off chats and banters with them, why do you think Miko and Subaru are known as wazap/hoax pickers?
The interaction was clipped and took out of context and retards like you slobber all over them. Now Miko has to second guess all her banters after years of funny back and forth with chat.

>>108918541
So you admit you were lying. Better to not respond at all.

>>108904165
Kill Pekora and her garbage mom