First we thought everything is going to be okay but then they did this shit.....
I don't know what's worse>phonefag>doesn't know how to take a screenshot>thinking this is something serious
Hey at least the Cover staff there are taking responsibility. Good on them.I find the actual hoops they're jumping through to be a bit much however. Just upload the video. I promise nobody viewer side cares too much about the behind the scenes stuff.
>>108962336Isn't it? Doki got fired for the same shit.
>>108962223>TikTok and reddit notifsKill yourself
>>108962223It's just cover staff doing cover staff things. You should be grateful, these people are capable of copying an email with haachama name and address and then saying, "small announcement, there was a small error with windows clipboard and we pasted the wrong thing! We'll work hard (LMAO) to make sure it doesn't happen again." And yes, they forgot to delete the "LMAO" note they made while writing the announcement.
>>108962453Now how would you know what a reddit notif looks like
>>108962223didn’t they fuck something up on Ina’s side earlier too? yagod really has a talent for hiring incompetent employees. he’s lucky the livers are carrying the Holo brand just by being entertaining
>>108962223Deflection thread from Michie shitting on Niji.
>>108962528The stupid logo is very recognizable the same for tiktok
>>108962223Cover's sheer amount of incompetence is breathtaking.
>>108962546>livers
>>108962429No she got fired for being a dick and puplicly telling people to share and download it elsewhere and shitting on management. No doubt their management is trash but it's a shit song anyways.
>>108962223Honestly, I wouldn't surprised if this was a tweet by management itself taking responsibility. It feels way too formal coming from someone who just crashed out extremely hard on management only like a month or two ago.
>>108962223Does she share a manager with ina? KEK
>>108962223So what was wrong with the video?Also she dropped yet another cover just a few hours ago.
>>108962336you forgot>SEAfag>Tiktoker>Redditor>whaveter that pink thing isTruly the creme of the catalog
>>108962546Yeah, but slightly different. In Ina's case, they changed her EP release date without telling her so she thought it was still going to come out on the old date (27th or 28th Jan JST instead of 5th Feb)
>>108962705We know it's not from her, they've been signing their posts on her account all hiatus long.
>>108962959>that pink thingIt's Lazada, an e-commerce site for SEAfagst. SEAfag
>>108962705That's exactly what it is.https://x.com/akaihaato/status/2016431361796800661The last line isn't in the screenshot because OP is a faggot.
>>108962605>Literally a Japanese term in general even explained by Holojp
>>108962956I saw her reflection on the cola bottle
>>108962223>reddit and tik tokAnon, do us a favor and jump
>>108962546Most of japanese workers are incompetent morons, but the country wants to mask it as all jps are top notch workers
>>108963138>We know it's not from her, they've been signing their posts on her account all hiatus long.Cover didn't use to do that and there were "health" breaks in 2021, 2022, 2023 when it was really obvious that management was skin walking their Hololive accounts. Have no idea whether contracts changed or Cover got more worried that talents would call them out on RM accounts but nowadays management is clear about when they are using their work accounts. Still that Haachama is completely locked out of her accounts and they are removing her from group merch feels like an ominous combination.
>>108963684Well, it’s hard to trust her to post on her account when she is in some JP mental care facility
>>108963684Slit your throat outfitschizo
Crazy ungrateful bitch
>>108962223>redditor>tiktoker>phonepag>seatime
>>108962956>So what was wrong with the video?Good question. I didn't see anyone make any observations in comments
It's honestly kinda baffling how incompetent Cover's managers are. They genuinely seem like complete retards
>>108964750Nijiseethe
>>108963371I only saw a reflection of her phone.I'm guessing the bigger issue was a couple of people being included in some of the footage, or maybe the bottle of Coke itself. Unless they have a blanket Coke permissions as part of the sponsorship.
>>108964750have you seen the job postings? they pay managers really poorly. no one actually qualified is going to apply.
>>108962429No, Doki was not given permission to upload it, did it anyways, then had a menhera meltdown when she was told to take it down because they didn't have permission to upload it.
>>108962676NijiseetheEnd yourself.
>>108965818I'm surprised they even get paid. Even so, it must be a great job because despite the low pay, your tasks are limited to tweeting occasionally and uploading a video.
>>108962223>another hololiver about to graduategrim
>>108962336>>doesn't know how to take a screenshotTech iliterate here, explain what you mean by that. I dont see the issue, then again my phone runs android 7.0 lol
>>108965195yeah totally the ppl who have high schoolers as managers are talking about other people's managers
>>108963336nice try nijisister
>Fucked up Ina's LP release and didn't tell her>Chammers gone soon>Its only JanuaryCant wait to see how much more they fuck up.TOTAL HOLO DEATH.>>108966781It is a very real term actually, but you're a retarded monkey.
>>108964698Holo management are just looking for a reason to punish her, I guess
>>108966902This reminds me a little of what happened with Su in October.>tweeted out a supportive message immediately after her handcam stream>removed for 'fixing typos', ostensibly>uploaded another message 2 days later with far less visibility and impactIt's so frustrating to watch.
>>108966895>It is a very real term actuallyI've only seen it used for niji chuubas or by nijifags. The rest use vtuber, 配信者 or 活動者.
>>108962528>reddit logo>hOw dO yOu KnoW wHaT a ReDDit noTiF loOks liKe?Are you perhaps retarded?
>>108962453what's the heart notification?
>>108966329Well because they had no reason to block it, what more permissions did they need?The ex-nijis that she had on the MV were graduated ones, and they own the IP in the first place. She had perms from the original song composers.It was a bullshit excuse to not give her permission, and she knew it.
>>108963336Nobody on the western side uses that term, retarded sister.
>>108969598I googled "laz app" and got the logo. Something called Lazada, which apparently is like Temu. A temu version of tem-Wait.>P currency>according to google , P currency is Philippine pesosOP IS A FLIP LMFAO. >>108962223 Go eat some pagpag faggot. No shit he's a phoneposter, he lives in a fucking cemetery.
>>108970125>hololive fan is from SEAthats crazy
>>108970125Lazada covers multiple countries in asia. It defaulted to pesos for you because it detected your location.
>>108970125>/vt/ shitstirrer is a flipjust rangeban SEA already
Cover management to busy propping up Pekoleech to do their fucking jobs properly. How the fuck did Yagoo let shit get this bad?
>>108970125many such cases
>>108962223They're trying to be passive aggressive with her but she's airing it out and making them look like shitheads every time
>>108962223I ran both YT and Twitter versions of the music video through a difference overlay, they are the exact same video.What the fuck is going on in this company? Why can't the video be posted on YT? And if it was mistakenly posted, what makes it such a massive mistake that it has to be outright deleted? Does everything have to be approved by 50 Blackrock bureaucrat marketing strategists before anything can happen? Is this the price for a company becoming public? Holy shit.
>>108962605
>>108969606>Well because they had no reason to block it, what more permissions did they need?Because they are a company and even if its a retarded position, they are still above all, especially when its a Japanese company. You can get fired for far less insubordination in most states in the US. Selen got what she asked for, to never work in a Japanese corpo again.
>>108971330I'm in America bud. The picture I posted is the second one here:https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lazada.android
>>108976407While there's no proof, it's reasonable to assume Selen would be denied her perms regardless, simply out of spite. She went nuclear because she was simply fed up with the bullshit Nijisanji was giving her the whole year
>>108975713I don't get it either. What's messed up is that she's ostensibly in a mental health crisis and feels like she failed in her career and she's alone. What could possibly be better for her, as a person and human being, than the outpouring of support she just had from her fans. And Cover deletes it? I don't want to draw conclusions too quickly from the outside but it just makes me feel so uneasy.
Why are the browns even allowed to use the internet?
How come you don't talk about Ina getting fucked over by the retarded management for not releasing her album on release day and had to be postponed? Ina had it worse because nobody took care of her visa.
>>108977500It's also worth talking about. Ina was one of the few people to show some support to her publicly in October, btw.https://x.com/ninomaeinanis/status/1984281836407914949
>>108962336>>108962416It is serious considering the reuploaded video will get significantly worse views now, since many saw the 'prerevised' version.This can effect algorithm reach and the metrics for things like this can effect getting events like sololives, which IS something Akai Haato wants, so it directly hinders goals of hers.To viewers, its minor, to talents its Cover incompetence making it more difficult to achieve their goals.
>>108977864She isn't getting a solo live in the next 2-3 years and I doubt she's gonna stick with cover for that long to begin with.
>>108977864>the reuploaded video will get significantly worse views now>This can effect algorithm reach and the metricsLiterally meaningless when her channel is effetely dead and anything posted there right now will be DoA If she actually gave a fuck about noombers, then the optimal thing to do would've been to sit on the cover until she comes back and pivot that attention her return would garner into viewership on the cover
>>108962676>>108966329Nope she was fired her because they tried to get her to kill herself but she didn't.
>>108978620NTA. You're missing the point. It's that releasing, deleting, and re-releasing a video is not good social media practices. That's why it's usually avoided, it's totally needless, and you can end your observations there.
>>108962547She does that every week. Anything new?
>>108962429If anything it's the exact opposite.Here, management is actively taking responsibility for their actions. Niji could never.
>>108969557Why exactly would you know what the reddit logo loosk like? Is there something you want to share with the glass?
>>108979828>management is actively taking responsibility for their actions>by skinwalking haachama and pretending to be her
>>108979873>The issue is entirely due to the negligence on the part of the operations team. Akai Haato bears no responsibilityNiji could never.
>>108966902>Holo management are just looking for a reason to punish herHaato complained about management and it's obvious that she is on the management shit list. Hololive recently had 7 graduations with several of them saying they didn't like the direction of the company but Haato gave too many details. Sabotaging the release of the Haato MV was vindictive but Cover also "forgot" to renew the work visa for Ina and constantly delayed the million subscriber wish for Mumei.
>>108980535Kill yourself outfitschizo
>>108962223Anon cover threw her in an asylum for talking bad about them. It's not some secret covercorp is a shityy company run by shitty people, you retarded corpo cultists just do anything to shut your ears and ignore all the horrible shit your companies do and then turn around and console war with each other like retards. This is the same company that didn't give a shit when Mel's managers stalked and harassed her and treated he rlike dogshit and terminated her account and banned the members from acknowledging her existence, the same company putting a child murderer into holoearth then trying to pretend they didn't do it. Covercorp has always been awful, you just pretended it wasnt.
>>108962336When keeping your oshi a secret from your girlfriend, she checks everything on your computer but she only checks texts on your phone. Git gud.
>>108979938Yes, Niji would never be arrogant enough to sign a tweet "responsible manager." Only holodrones would defend saying "look at me, I'm a manager, I'm so responsible" like that
>>108981234Pretty sure that means "the manager responsible".I'm long past hoping that any one of you aren't retarded.
Damn nijiapes are desperate huh
>>108979873Are you retarded?
I'm not happy about this situation but it's not like conspiracy theories are needed. It's bad enough as it is.
>>108981845Who has had more graduations in the last year, Hololive or Nijisanji?Based on your attitude, the answer will probably surprise you.
>>108982705Anon it's still Niji Niji sheds about as many people each year as Holo has lost in its entire lifetime.
>>108962223Management can't do shit about her talking badly of management because they know the PR is going to be awful and will reinforce the black company accusations.
>>108977020>it's reasonable to assume Selen would be denied her perms regardless, simply out of spiteLike that time she vagueposted about being banned from hosting tournaments and held one 2 months later?
>>108983092Some intense bootlicking happening right now.
why are you talking about selen. it's a completely different company and happened years ago at this point
>>108983130Please understand, sisters are DESPERATE to whataboutholo to deflect from their own internal issues. Niji has an obvious, insular group that gets an absurd amount of opportunities disproportional to their achievements? OMG HOLO CLIQUENiji has a group of ex-members floating around continuing to thrive? OMG INDIE AVENGERS Niji gets exposed to have unethical business practices and a trend of mistreating their chuubas? OMG HOLO BLACK COMPANYNow we're on the "LOOK ITS LIKE SELEN THEY GOT A VIDEO PRIVATED" phase while ignoring the fact thatA) management put up the videoB) management took responsibility and blame for its removal, while absolving the chuubathe exact opposite of what happened with selen
>>108983276>deflectnobody's even thinking about them bro, they're insignificant compared to phase or holo
>>108983835Yes, but they have small dog syndrome now, and they want to make that everyone else's problem.
It really was the reflection on the bottle that they removed lol
>>108981537why would you expect some esl seafag to comprehend basic english?
>>108969619ah yes people who stream on twitch are virtual youtubersretard
>>108977302Cover doesn't want to get sued by the Cock a Cola company for including their product on a video without their permission. yeah that's how retarded the situation is.
Cover is about to experience their own " Selen moment"Are you ready to get dogpiled by asmon, moistcr1tikal, tectone, nuxtaku, mutahar, ludwig, morepegasus, falseyed, phase connect, parrot4chan, kson and many more?Hololive is about to be destroyed.
>>108987634Seems to me like they could have just pushed some paper between their offices.>our talent had your logo in a video she edited and we uploaded by accident>we don't intend any legal action from our company>thanks, appreciatedObviously it's a bit more work on the office side, but it would have been much better considering the circumstances
>>108987701Until management weaponizes the talent against each other, it's just average corpo bullshit
>>108987749Fubuki calling Chama mentally ill was a nothingburger am I right lolShe hasn't been seen since that moment
>>108987765I'm not ready to give up on Foobs yet. I'm still hoping for the best for everyone.
>>108987701>asmon>tectoneLmao they better cover their own asses first especially with tectone's stalking and sexual assault case coming to light
>>108987835There are no problems at hololive
>>10896222353pagpag deflection thread.
>>108987725That would take a week or two. Having the video privated until the situation gets resolved(this is the standard procesure) or taking it down after that period of time would be far worse.
>>108987701i seriously doubt that. something big would have to happen with someone popular in en, and the sad reality is that most of the popular ens already left. no one is going to cover some jp drama. it'll all be in jp and their audiences won't care.
>>108987522Show me a western vtuber who uses liver.
>>108988027They'd be exposed to some risk but the idea of a lawsuit seems far-fetched. Maybe the EN lyrics were a bigger issue, I don't know. But at some point you need to be willing to stand by your people. If risk management is the top priority of the company and the welfare of the talent is secondary, it's going to be corrosive in the long term. That's why they're struggling so much. Cover survived their Taiwan hit, now they can't even show a bottle of soda for a second or two in a 5min video? And with a company they're partnered with? It doesn't make any sense when you think with a wider perspective.
>>108987835Fubuki is doing her best. She even still invites miko to a collab while other holomem ostracizes her, despite the wave of antis that came soon after.
>>108988240Copyright wins in the end, if that's the issue. Your idea of "standing by the talent" is basically a pointless struggle and would be even worse for the talent than what they've done, ironically. Muh fee fees do not translate well to reality and businesses.
>>108988418>She even still invites miko to a collab while other holomem ostracizes her, despite the wave of antis that came soon after.Shareholders stick together after all
The fundamental problem is that most of the girls are too nice, and they let incompetent to malicious management walk over them.It doesn't help that management itself is not coordinated, like I recall that time advent had to stop on the first day of enreco because another manager set a meeting. And this was with enreco, probably the biggest project on the en side.
>>108987701they can make it relatively amicable, its on them if they fuck it up and make it hot
>>108962429>Anon is retarded>Can't read>This is very plainly management admitting they fucked up and are going to fix things>Doki got fired because her manager strung her along and failed to give even basic instructions like "don't publish the video on the previously established release date, we're not ready" and then got real pissy when their own negligence caused issues (that were never actual issues, it was a matter of AnyColor giving permissions to AnyColor, so this was very blatant corporate harassment)
>>108962223I'm new to this. Can someone tell me whether we should break out the 2024 pitchforks or not? If there is another glorious anti-black corpo crusade to be fought, I'm interested. Otherwise, IDGAF.
>>108992695Cover is fine
>>108996477Too early to tell but let's see how things play out. We're all only human.
>>108992695if it were up to me I'd say let the heads roll especially yagoo but the situation is ambiguous currently
>>108992695management uploaded the video themselves but made a mistakemanagement then took it down and made this tweet apologizing for it, stating directly that it was their fault and not Haachama's. Basically, the exact opposite of the selen situation where they spat on selen's efforts and then tried to force all the blame on her.
>>108987701>He thinks drama vtuber shills would ever call Hololive a black company lol
>>109003789Dramatubers are the lowest of the low, they will attack literally anyone besides Phase because Phase pays them not to.
>>108962956the Coke thing
>>108962546Compared to denying her visa/migration paperwork a few years back, shifting her Hologra episode by a few days is nothing
So is she back or being skinwalked? Just saw some shorts of her dancing to random songs
>>109009731Neither. It was uploads of content she did last year. It's all finished so at this point, nothing is left except to find out what's going to happen.
