Gura, fauna, amd mumeiGive me the real reason
>Holo>lost their top 3 talents>en shittersワロタ
>>108972693Mumei health reasons. The others had bfs
>Gura: Lazy>Fauna: BF and didn't want to do the Japan trips anymore>Mumei: Wanted to be a normalfag
>>108972997YWNBJ
>>108973313this sounds reasonable
>>108972693>Top 3>Only mentions one of the top 3 (Gura)What did you mean with this OP?
>>108972693Those were not the top 3. Only Gura and she barely streamed for years. Also it was only EN and they don't care much about EN.
>>108972693It's going from a small startup that prioritized creativity and talent to an international corporation that prioritizes risk management and IP protection. That will send certain people running for the doors. Sad but that's what happened
>>108972693One day she barged into Yagoo's office and pointed at three images. There was nothing he could do about it
>>108975334She didn't even intend to collab with mumei she just killed her career for the love of the game
>>108972693>Give me the real reason1. Because the creative types are frustrated when their projects have to be postponed or dropped in favor of company favorites like Suisei. This takes a severe toll on talent motivation.2. Because the die-hard streamers feel pressured to do 'idol' projects, and especially holo specials which the company pushes as unity displays for investors. Increased workload takes its toll on talent health.3. because ISO/quality assurance to satisfy investors has gutted the original company culture, pushing out technically-unqualified company stalwarts like A-chan. Even Tanigo has been marginalized. Talents have no one on their side on a personal-loyalty level. They're just assets now.All of the above stems from the IPO, which was a choice on the path to company growth. Growth is ultimately the challenge: the bigger the stable of talents, the more conflict in scheduling; the bigger the company, the less familial.
Nijitranny OP has skin the same color of poop
>>108973313>Fauna having a BFIsn't that normal especially in the idol industry, i bet everyone even the die hard fans know that their favorite idol got a boyfriend, All you gotta you is shut up and not talk about him.Or did Fauna slip on that?
>>108972693None of them was properly motivated to be a Vtuber also poached by Gunrun
>>108975848>creative types
>>108975848>Gura>Mumei >"create types">"die-hard streamers"lmfao
>>108975848>>108976214
>>108975950Most Holos are single. Watch streams.
>>108972997Japanese botters are the real vtuber fans>>108973313JP are literally all married to corporate execs
>>108975848This shit's depressing me anon
>>108975848>>108976883life sucksthen you die
>>108976388>>108976214NTA but half the shit they wanted to do were a no-go due to perms and being corporate. Unfortunately, once you do burn out, it's very, very difficult to get that drive back, if you ever do. In Ame's case though I think she works well as a girl who disappears for a month and comes back with a cool new toy to show off before disappearing again. She clearly burnt out from red tape and streaming isn't her passion so much as projects, or at least they would be if she could stick to them for longer than a month... Saba... I honestly have no clue what happened to that one. Apparently it's just a return to form since even as Sen she barely streamed. Mooms though was pretty limited by JP perms. Her forte is english songs and as such her best streams were her unarchived karaokes where she could sing whatever nonsense came to mind, even if it was PonPonPon for 40 minutes in a row. With her gone, the only girl to really fill that niche is ERB and occasionally IRyS when she gets in a mood. Add in the red tape halting projects like Its Not a Phase and she'd likely have graduated around the same time even if her throat was perfect.
>>108977367This is now a sadposting threadLet's see 'em
>>108972693>All four that quit were spoiled pampered American white women that whined about not getting EVERYTHING their way There is your answer. Don’t make the same hiring mistake, Cover.
>>108977454>NTA but half the shit they wanted to do were a no-go due to perms and being corporate.This honestly only really applies to Ame since Cover got weirdly autistic for a short while about her using unofficial models like Bee Ame Gura basically stop giving a shit after 2022 and would just show up once or twice a month either for collabs or to play some FoTM or Horror game slop she foundMumei outside of 2022, usually split her time with being a full-time student so she'd usually only stream about 5-10 times month and it'd be usually be an unarchive karaoke or some OW2 or something Fauna streamed a lot but the majority of content was usually just Minecraft or playing some indie game she saw Northenlion play It's hard to, in good faith say any of those three were getting screwed because of perms when in most cases their content was stuff they already had perms for, perms would easy to get, or in Mumei's context the majority of her content weren't even things that required perms (karaoke, drawing, zatsu, etc)
In a deleted final members only stream Mumei said the throat issues were annoying but not enough to make her quit. Bae publicly said that she had to convince Mumei to stay several times so whatever issues she had predates any of the newer behind the scenes changes. The simple fact of the matter is that she clearly had no passion for vtubing and everything she’s done since leaving proves that.
>>108972997Hololive has been carried by EN ever since Myth debuted.
>>108972693GrifterGrifterSick
>>108978725How's fauna supposed to be a grifter?
>>108972693But Miko Suisei and Marine are still there?
>>108972693Gura realized she could make more money for better hours as an indie.Fauna got votekicked for pretending she had feelings for Kronii to use her body for sex.Mumei hates you.
>>108972693Didnt
>>108972997@grok show me hololives growth before and after gura
>>108976486LOOOOL
>>108978322retard.
>>108972693The EN started to become a fake moniker rather than stated fact, it's clear the company is indirectly pressuring the talents to become more JP based now that the pandemic is done and over with, the California branch is basically a tax write off as 90% of their 3D performances and big events are held in japan, 2/3 of the EN talents now living over there, and the rest now have to frequently travel there to do the idol work Cover is now prioritizing over streaming.Gura and Fauna both had a long list of neurosis, flying is a big issue with Fauna, and Gura has issues with going out in public, so having those two screwballs frequently being forced to fly to another country to do idol work when they'd clearly rather be streaming was eventually gonna blow up in their face.Mumei's the only real excuse, that voice/cough shit is never gonna get better, it's sadly going to follow her for the rest of her life, and if she wanted to choose trying to preserve her health as long as she could over entertaining a bunch of sad sacks, it sucks, but that's her choice.Amelia is the biggest sad story though, and honestly handled it the most gracefully too.Cover basically treated her like a second class in the beginning, she ran tech support for Myth in the early days because they were sent out to die, she was basically the team manager because Cover couldn't get their shit together handling an international team so split apart, she had frequent ideas for projects and collabs that got shot down the moment she voiced them, and was still man enough to respectfully accept the affiliate role when she had enough, rather than just flipping them the bird and walking away.
>>108975334you attached the wrong image
>>108978356Maybe for a short while from late 2020 to mid 2021.
>>108984142>over entertaining a bunch of sad sacks, it sucks, but that's her choiceProceeds to stream 4 hours + dailyYou faggots are fascinating, no surprise since all of hlgg who liked her left
>>108984142Ame is sadder still, since she took the affiliate status to leave herself open for future guest appearances, but Cover never calls her.
>>108984320Streams in which every single title has (no mic) in it, where she silently draws without talking...Either pull your head out of your ass, or keep shoving it in deeper until it comes out somewhere else.
>>108984181Why do you think Vshojo went down? He tried to stop her and barely stayed alive
>>108984397>irrelevant pointsyou don't stream for 6 hours and thank EVERY. SINGLE. SUB. if you hate your viewers retarded nigger faggot
>>108984142>Gura has issues with going out in public, so having those two screwballs frequently being forced to fly to another countryI don't think Gura has any issues with flying to another country lmao
>>108972693>Top talentsAll three are fucking irrelevant compared to JP. Meanwhile notFauna is getting mogged by fucking Shiori and notMumej has holoID tier ccv.Also notGura once again fucked off until valentines.
>>108984687d r o n e
>>108984696Can't refute facts can you?
>>108984706i can refute it by simply telling you nimi gains 3k ccv out of russia whenever someone gets mad, ccv is all fucking fake retard
>>108972693baby hort
>>108984142>Gura has issues with going out in public, so having those two screwballs frequently being forced to fly to another countryHe doesn't know
>>108972693the corporation model is starting to lose its grasp on the VTuber scene
>>108984639At no point did I say anything to the effect of her hating her fans, illiterate schizo.
>>108984734good job on rephrasing your talking point and saying the same thing schizo!
>>108984733>Here's how no Gura no Buy/watch will actually work for realsies this timeMeanwhile holofes and Kiara's concert are sold out.
>>108984764glad 2 ppl could fill a 2k room, remember when u shit on nimi for the same thing?
>>1089847753k room twice over.Nimi was 1200 and seats were still available online when the show started. I don't give a shit what oshispark.says btw. I trust my eyes over vshojo 2.0.
>>108984804>fictional numbers and schizo babblinglol
>>108984815>I-i-it's fake! Holofes will be empty no Nimi no buy will workThe absolute state of napcucks
>>108984804vshojo rrat schizo
>>108984832i don't care about that tone deaf bitch i just find it hilarious guys hoot and holler for months than have the same fucking capacity venue lmfao
>>108984834Nimi can't even beat Shiori anymore dude hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
>>108984852she couldn't until someone decided to give her 3k more viewers, viewers are so real hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
>>108984851>1200 equals 3000 times two
>>108984869>more fictional numbers >>108984834
So this is the power of no Gura/Nimi no buy?Truly the top talents.
>>108984875>jpywnbj
>>108984888Actual picture of the venue Saba's concert is taking place in. Not even trolling.
>>108984896>sabas concertyeah haha.. hershave a good day im bored of you trolls
>>108984907>D-d-doesn't count
The biggest loss of the 4 for me personally was Ame. I didn't watch much of her content but she really was a boon for Myth and somewhat for Council as well. Support, ideas girl, entertainment focused. Without her, I don't think EN would have half the 'soul' they do now and I honestly think there would have been a graduation or two before Advent debut.I actually came around on Nimi after she left Holo. Never watched her much because I was dedicated to watching Kiara and skipped over Council for the most part after Sana graduated and then jumped on board for FWMC heavily. The general pivot towards BUY BUY BUY and all of the IP control has made EN feel a lot more stiff lately and I've found myself tuning in less in general. Not that I hate the talents now that I liked before, but I just generally feel a little more turned off from stuff because NUMBERS feel way more important to a good chunk of the current talent than they used to and sales feel like a focus. I legit hate being constantly being advetised to. If it were just a mention at the start or end of stream, it's whatever, but more and more of them are constantly talking about their merch ticket sales all the time. Not to mention there's more and more ad streams and streams that are entirely focused on selling stuff.
>>108975848If they want to be streamers then don’t apply to Hololive. Cover has made it pretty clear they are no longer a streaming company but an IP first idol agency. If they want to stream as some vtuber they go slut it up as a 0 view on twitch
>>108972997fpbp
>>108986037Wow, it's almost like the 4 EN members that left all started before that, and may have left because of it. You're advice is so good, Ame went back in time to take it sooner. Good for you
