They need someone with a gremlin personality but pleasant to listen to voice, good singer, and horror games enjoyer. If they don't debut someone like this they're legitimately retarded and want the EN branch to fail.
>>108975380they’re only retarded if someone like this auditioned and they chose not to hire them. if nobody who ticks those boxes applied, then there’s really not much they can do.
>gremlin: Gigi>pleasant voice: Raora>good singer: Elizabeth>horror games enjoyer: CeciliaI think you already got what you wanted, OP
>>108975380They should hire this one chud I know called senzawa
>>108975380>who can fill Gura's nicheGetting really popular within your 1st year then streaming once every month?
>gremlin>pleasant voice>good singer>horror games enjoyer
>>108975380>grifter that didn't pass the vibe checkNo, they should keep people like Gura out of Hololive actually.
>>108975380>never streamsnaw, i think they're good.
>>108976006She streamed 4 times in January though?
>>108975380Gura was the Lebron James of vtubing, there will never be another
>>108975709So true.She is just like the shork but Phase haters will never know how good she is
>>108975709>>108976109Ricciardo knows how good she is in bed
>>108975625Gigi is a sexpestWhroara sounds like the adults from Charlie BrownElizabeth sounds like a bongCecilia is only for people with a fart fetish
>>108975380Biboo.>b-but she doesn't fit my Gura cr-Your Trash criteria is irrelevant.
>>108976109Ironic since I think Kiara is literally in love with her.
>>108976069see you feb 14
>>108976069>
>>108976439It's because Panko gives her attention and they're both European.Also the Austrians and Italians have a history of being allies
>>108976484it will rebound to complete symetry
>>108975625All in one you dumb fuck
>>108975380Literally just watch Saba. What a terrible thread.
>>108976378She doesn’t check any of the boxes anon
>>108975709the chance she auditioned is close to zero but she’d be unironically perfect
>>108976788Saba isn’t in the holo bubble anymore
>>108976439>I think Kiara is literally in love with her.Kiara is "literally in love" with pretty much any 3view-low4view that's willing to publicly kiss her ass, so that's not really saying much
>>108977592So leave? It's not 2020-2021
I just want an actual demure, must protect moe girl. I’m sick of the “I have a really cute design but I’m actually an evil, mean bitch! Teehee!” schtick that Mumei did and now Cece does.
>>108976076lebron james had actual accomplishmentsgura is more like emma watson
>>108977438Your Trash criteria is irrelevant.
>>108975380You could argue someone like Mint could fill that role (not that she'd ever join), but at the same time they've clearly tried to groom members to fill her shoes to little success, so even she likely wouldn't be able to pull something like that off in 2026. Fuwamoco was clearly set to be the new face of EN between their meteoric rise and fast tracked projects, merch, etc. They were popular as hell with both english and JP, but between the massive hiatus they took and the bilingual debuff, they ended up losing chunks of the EN audience in exchange for JP, meaning they aren't exactly at the top of either. Biboo just doesn't have the same kind of mass appeal since her zoomer humor is pretty limiting.. Gigi's in the same boat, though she has a lot more charisma. It's funny because by all metrics, Mori SHOULD fill that role. She's a solid singer, bilingual (but streams almost exclusively english), has plenty of charisma (at least at first glance), has an appealing design, is decently witty, etc. but dear lord I hate her "collab voice" and sometimes she just becomes an absolute bore...
>>108977850Mumei was never an evil bitch she was a chunni yandere which is cute.
>>108977850>demure, must protect moe girlYou are never, ever getting this from an EN vtuber. Learn japanese.
>>108979942You'll never get it from a JP vtuber, ken-sama. Learn japanese.
>>108976788Saba carried over Gura’s work ethic so that’s not possible
>>108975380Gura was more like:>Loli who makes loli memes>Openly a lolicon>Openmindedness extremist>Linguistically affluentYou already have gremlins and singers and horror gamers, but none of them matches Gura.
>>108980028Well, OP is the one who asked. It seems silly to think you could find someone with that lazy self-effacing charm, who isn't actually lazy.
>>108975380You can't artificially create a gura. It took a perfect storm of covid and an applicant with the perfect blend of self esteem/mental health issues, that had a massive preexisting audience in the perfect place at the perfect time.You might as well start a eugenics program and try your luck in a dozen or so years.
>>108977850>I just want an actual demure, must protect moe girlThose are the least interesting girls to watch desu. Great entertainment for an hour at a maid cafe. Shit at multiple hour streams every day.
>>108975380Gura was a lightning in a bottle hire that so many other agencies tried to replicate the success of. Even within Hololive you had post-Myth characters clearly designed to be "Gura killers" (La+, Baelz, Biboo, Gigi) that never reached her peak.
>>108978081Dead wrong on Fuwamoco. They've had decent success but they're an obviously niche act. A pre-planned "new face of EN" wouldn't put on a thick character accent and be more autistic about roleplay than any other EN member, or cleave so hard to a JP-friendly sexy toddler vibe.And if you don't care about my opinion you could look at their several failed auditions. Cover didn't look at them and see the next Gura, they saw a risky swing for the fences and had some hesitation about bringing them on.
>>108975380We're never getting anything like the first 2 gens from Cover/EN again, especially Gura, she was lightning in a bottle.As much as the pandemic was a hinderance it was also a blessing when it came to those girls, it led to a more organic debut and natural group growth, whereas Advent and Justice are blatant products, that had months of pre-anouncement irl coaching, with many of it's members suffering from adhering to kayfabe portrayals.
>>108975625> doesn't stream> all of them
>>108981062They really are the next gura
We'll never have another Gura again, and I say this as a Day 1 (fine, week 1) chumbud. I tried to make it work with Biboo, but she just isn't her. Saba is comfortable familiarity, but its not the same. She's changed and I've changed. At least we'll always have the memories.
hololive does not need any more EN members
>>108983153*laughs in 20 dead hours every day*
>>108975625>horror games enjoyer: Ceciliayou've not ever watched her have you?
>>108976526>the Austrians and Italians have a history of being alliesSay what
>>108983458American education system, folks...
>>108977850Ina and Mococo don't fulfill this?
>>108980098>Openly a loliconit wasn't THAT open
>>108975625>pleasant voice: raora????????????? /? ??? ?? ???????????????
>>108984010Since the surgery her voice has marginally improved, still sounds like a grandma from the old country with a nicotine problem though.
>>108979963>projectingSeethe chumshitter
>>108980098>censors her loli modelnice open lolicon vtuber lmao
>>108976788>watch Saba
>>108975380The only chuuba I could think of is Panko
I don't think EN 5 will help bring back a chunk of fans in the west. The people who have left either did it because they got tired of corpo shit, they didn't like the ever-increasing amounts of time being eaten up by the idol stuff, their fav graduated, or they just moved on from vtubers/streaming in general.The only real path of growth for any of EN is through sucking up JP casual viewers, which is why a chunk of them talked about wanting to do more JP stuff this year. Holla holla get dolla
>>108985530It’s time for hololive to get actual good talents, even they aren’t entirely safe and/or easy to hire.They need experienced people.If they do hire people like that, they will stay afloat and possibly have another talent breakout, if they don’t, they will stagnate and people will start hating on them for their corpo shit. Going too safe is always the wrong choice, talented and experienced person > generic safe to hire person.
>>108975380The biggest thing gEN5 needs to tackle is curbing the cringe inducing lesbo-larping that's grown out of control thanks to the additions of Nerissa and Justice.With the depature of AmeSame and Mumei they've lost several key buffers that kept that shit to a minimum in collabs, and unfortunately their new lesbo-counter "seiso" members (and I use that term very liberally in the first's case) are Biboo and FUWAMOCO which are a headache in and of themselves to try and sell to casuals.
>>108977869>Emma Watson>Famous exclusively for being in Harry Potter>Gawr Gura>Famous exclusively for being in Hololiveaccurate lol
>>108986390this but less BL talk, shidding and farding and brainrot
>>108975380can you chumtards stop begging for gura in hololive and just watch saba, no one cares about your preferences
>>108986421I swear you fags would have your brains explode if you watch any real amount of JP.
>>108986599even more reason to add someone who insists on a line. I'm sick of cute girls talking about unappealing stuff
>>108975380I can fill gura
>>108986656Yet you'll be mad at someone like Shiori or IRyS talking about liking and finding guys attractive. I hope you blow your brains out one day
>>108986805>kill yourself for having preferenceswew calm down there lass
>>108986838No, you're just a dumb nigger who likes to bitch and complain about literally everything.
>>108986899you seem perturbed, and i sense you are projecting some other anon's behavior onto me because you've been here for too long.all I'm saying is I'd like to watch a EN holo who's a bit cleaner and not tiktok poisoned. besides, the pretense of a line makes crude jokes funnier
>>108986805Not that anon, but you're damn right, cuz any mention of guys means running the risk of having to watch them collab with one of the homostars.Having to endure these women pretend to lez out is already bad enough even on a good day, but having to watch/listen to some faggot mince about, or worse have douchebags like that dragon guy that try to be a womans idea of a "tough guy" for an audience of female simps is pure unsaturated torture.People didn't hate Kronii hanging out with that vampire guy cause he was a dude, they hated it cuz he was a fuckin limp-wristed fruit.
>>108975625>pleasant voice: raoraShe sounds like a chain smoking hag anon.
>>108986954good.
>>108986954Hot
>>108986944FWMC are your option. And kinda of Raora if you don't mind the heavy ESL
>>108977850You could try Peo.
>>108975380They already have Kobo. She just needs to speak English.
Her niche? You mean being a good vtuber unlike the dogshit EN3 and 4? (Not including the baubau and biboo)
>>108975380Fill in gura? We got plenty of ENs who dont stream.
>>108975380I have bad news for you, there are only whores and grifters left to choose from.
>>108987208>baubauJP-lite that didn't bite themselves in the ass at the start by going hard on it like Bae and IRyS did.
>>108975380i thought her niche was phoning it in for years and then bitching out. they already have a bunch of members halfway there, why would they have to hire more?
>>108975709Panko would be easy money for Cover, but it seems like she’s doing good enough in Phase and I hardly believe she sent an audition, so unless they want to try and scout her, she’s staying in Phase.
>>108978081>not that she'd ever joinloool she's dying to join dont kid yourself cuckie
>>108975709>>108976109ywnbaw, singaporean tranny
>>108988468panko is a hololive fangirl, just look at how many hololive themed streams she did
>>108983287If you want to watch streamers go watch phase. Hololive no longer needs streams to make fans, whatever they tocuh tunrs into hundreds of thousands of fans across the globe with undying loyalty.
>>108983458Burger-kun...
>>108983977Mococo can be pretty savage at times.
>>108980652>every loli tried to be Gura killerRetard.
>>108975380no
>>108975380It's not that easy to perfectly replace someone. Every competitor has experienced this. Gura clones in particular never go well.
>>108996316The Gura clones you're talking about are just lolis, because you're so retarded that every loli is a Gura clone in your head even if they're the polar opposite as her. You even tried to say Gigi is a fucking Gura clone when she sounds like a tranny, only because she wears a hoodie.
>>108975380Good luck finding that, all lolitubers are shit singers and most of them don't have any kind of wit whatsoever.
>EN5 needs someone who can fill Gura's nicheSo someone who ghosts her audience for months at a time? I don't think they really need that.
Hololive is having way too many issues as of now and fans are starting to notice (the Ina thing for instance) and if they don't find a breakout star who's experienced enough and can shift the attention from all the unprofessionalism that is going on soon, it's going to be worse and worse for them, so I totally agree with OP.My only hope is they don't get one of the boring Gura clones who are too ESL and boring to fill that spot (Bluenamie, Yuki etc.).
>>109002655unironically this
>>108984002>wasn't that openuoh memes and the "4 letter word" meme are literally immortalised by Guranot to mention Gura liked her own lewds to the extent permissible by the company>>108984649>the loli was JC instead of JS sized therefore censoredyou're retarded lol
>>109002655Finding a chuuba similar to Gura who isn’t just generic or boring like the ones you listed isn’t easy, but if cover can pull that off I’ll kneel
I lost faith in holo management so I hardly believe they’ll hire good and experienced people in general, especially because the experienced people in question don’t want to join hololive.
>>108975709who
>gura leaves hololive>her fans don't follow her new character and just want a clone in hololivekek you guys don't give a shit about her, you only cared that covid boosted her to mega popularity and want another person of the same popularity that will never happen
>>109011186that’s panko
>>108975625Justice is the worst thing to ever happen to Holo ENfight me
>>109011298Saba doesn’t interact with holos anymore and barely streams anyway, and I personally don’t care if the person who’s gonna fill her niche within hololive won’t get the same numbers as her, it’s the vibe we care about, and the dynamics a person similar to her can bring in current hololive. That’s why I think management needs to be very careful about who they hire for that job. It has to be someone with enough carisma to not make people think she was a replacement.
>>108975380but they have people who don't stream already
theres never going to be another gura guras success was like several different factors all synergising together + a pandemic the only en vtuber that could ever replicate her success would be like some perfect ai psudo gura
>>109012607it really is hard to find a genuinely funny lolituber with a pleasant sounding voice (basically someone who doesn’t do the usual annoying high pitched anime voice) who can sing while still sounding both cute and mature, but it’s not impossible, especially considering that hololive gets an enormous number of applications
>>108975380you saw what they did with the latest gen, it sucks, and EN5 will suck too
>>108975709Panko is really fucking good, does she also dance?
>>108975380The problem is that most of the genuinely good talents left in the vtuber pool are already in COMPANIES or are BIG INDIES. The rest often lack the experience needed to handle the pressure of being a corporate VTuber and don’t really have a strong sense of content creation. Hololive needs someone who already knows what they’re doing, but at this point, most people like that aren’t willing to join.
>>108975380>EN5mayeb cancel that trash because holoslop is DOGSHIT?
>>108975380>he thinks we'll get EN gen 5Not until there are two more graduations or something. It's more likely we'll get ID gen 4 before that, and the chances of that are slim in their own right.
>>109012347>vibes and dynamics that an awkward autistic girl can bring to hololivegood thing you're not recruitment
>>109016139she never had any 3D performance so I don't know for sure, but she did move cutely in her chibi 3D model
>>1090171852021 Gura
>>109011298>>her fans don't follow her new character and just want a clone in hololiveSaba's a funny case because there's really nothing to follow.Gura was basically absent, and Saba continued that trend. I'm all for making fun of chumbuds, but if someone liked Gura in 2021-2022 and wanted more of her, they don't really have options anymore beyond the bimonthly saba stream.
>EN1 theme is mythical creatures>EN2 theme is forces of energy>EN3 theme is a gang of criminals>EN4 theme is a team of lawkeepersWhat should EN5's theme be?
Holo as it existed in 2020-2021 is finished. I don't know why you think another generation could ever bring back that feel.
>gura sing ability, humor and uuooohhhh>actual work discipline>italian>her oshi is koronehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVEWJcSPZWQ
>>109019554Her last Radiohead-only karaoke stream was S-class. Panko is too good for the average /vt/ niggercasual.
>>109019554the dynamics between her and raora would be kino
>>109019554PANKO MANKO UOOOOOOOOOOH
>>109019554>actual work disciplineThis is weird to hear someone actually say
>>109019660I’ve known Panko for ages and somehow never noticed how good of a singer she is
>>108975380Any ideas?
>>109027342not op but it's not anyone's job but hololive's to find someone like that
>>109028666maybe that avatarfag will stop working on himself and enter another scouting phase
>>108975625Gura wasn't a good singer thoughbeit.
>>109035086Still isn't.
>>109019554What's with Italian chuubas and having good work discipline?
>>109037377It’s ironic, because Italians are often stereotyped as lazy, yet both Panko and Raora worked their asses off to get where they are.
>>109019660>>109019554I want to kiss Panko's Manko
>>109037377Is passion and effort.ESL is already a big filter for effort.For passion, italy is a massive otaku country, those girls are genuine anime/manga nerds. Panko/raora looked at korone and "oh mio Dio, this is everything i want to be".
>>109041725is panko half? why is her english so good compared to raora’s?
>>109045448What no, panko learned english on the jobhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mto_zfzepjQ
>>109020084https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORzIHnVA_-ghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1HckDlD3yUWho will get kronii?
>>109045811Both… let a man dream
>>108975380What we actually need is Gura but wants to put the effort in
>>108975380no one watches hololive now that gura is gone
>>109046727That's why they need to hire someone to fill her niche, it's basic logic
>>109045448Panko and Tenma had awful English on debut and grinded to get where they are today
>>109050110tenma's english is still bad but at least I can understand what she says now
>>108980652Success wasn't her but covid.
>>109050638Yeah she likes to just smile and nod instead of asking what stuff means, kinda hurts herself
>>109054982This. Tenma’s mindset doesn’t really help with improvement, and you can see it pretty clearly if you look at two living examples. Panko isn’t afraid to ask questions, and because of that she’s reached a point where new people don’t even realize she’s ESL until she stumbles over a new word, which is honestly really impressive.
>>108975380https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAAezFZ9e8k
>>108975380The one who streams once every 2 months?
>>108975625pretty much thisGigi is definitely worthy of gremlin Gura's initialsand as a bonus she makes me feel seen as a member of the ace community in a degree not even Kronii made me relate to her
>>109056250Gigi is dokibird 2.0
>>108975380hololive sucks lol
>>108975625>>pleasant voice: RaoraI was about to insult you for this but then the>>good singer: Elizabethreally was too large of a big string so now I'm just going to call you a troll.
>>108977850Ok but why do you write stick with a C and a H ?
>>109060202ESLChama...
