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Does this mean we can have
AI Gura in 2026?
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>>109035554
>anti cover tweet
>check profile
>nijifaggot
Opinion discarded.
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>>109035554
Haven’t various Holo members already used AI chatbots several times before? (I can think of Koyori, Pekora, CC and Shiori on top of my head for example)
Why is the guy in OP's picrel acting as if they pretended to be against AI chatbots?
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>>109035554
AI is good.
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>>109035554
Cover used AI generated art in 3D lives and merch it's not exactly a shock they are shilling an AI chat app. In the distant future of 2027 your Hololive AI waifu can shill you Hololive alcohol while encouraging you to gamble in a HoloEarth casino so that you can win a Hololive NFT.
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>>109035673
Every FUCKING TIME
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>>109035721
so perpetual incline while your talent is dead in some corner of youtube?
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>>109035749
>Annual talent remuneration has been going up, at an average of $435K a year not counting the loan now
>Several talents became millionaires and could retire early
Looks like their talents are thriving to me
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>>109035676
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>>109035673
And there we go
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>>109035676
Retards think AI art shit like this >>109035849 is the same as all AI even though literally no one with a brain has ever thought that. Not a single Holo is against AI as a concept and many of them who are against the art aspect are mostly only taking that position because they employ artists that they have no authority to fire who would attack them if they defended AI art (such as their mamas and fans). And where some indie vtuber may need AI to make thumbnails because they have no fans, Holos have no need for AI art.
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>>109035676
>>109035849
>>109035986
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>>109035801
Streams of that size should be millionaires in months not years
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>>109036390
Hard to get an average of million per year when you have HoloID and HoloStars dragging the average down
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>>109035849
Kiara is a typical example of the "anti-AI" crowd on social media. When they said "I hate (generative) AI", they usually meant "I hate (generative) AI arts". Most of them clearly don't seem to have any issue using chatGPT.
Anyway, whatever Kiara said, it's a fact that several other holo members already used character AI bots with 0 pushback from fans.
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>>109035673
KEK. LMAO
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>>109036766
>0 pushback from fans

Y'all said that too when holo used AI for their tcg ads lol
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>>109037983
Those streams (Koyori, Shiori, CC) are still up. You are free to prove him wrong by finding the pushbacks against them
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>>109036708
Dear lord you're illiterate
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>>109035849
@grok, crush her skull
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>>109035673
Fpbp
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>>109037983
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>>109035673
>Ennacuck
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>>109035673
fpbp know your place nijiniggers
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>>109035986

>Not a single Holo is against AI as a concept

So loud yet so wrong
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>>109035673
Its always these DEI sloppers.
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>>109039986
>>109035849
Kiara should do another collab with Neuro-sama
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>>109040048
Comparing THE BASED neuro sama with AIslop
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>>109040157
No I genuinely want to see a new collab.
I knew my post would come off passive aggressive but I just wanted to say it
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>>109035554
>AI LLMs are just as bad as Gen AI! You're supporting AI!
You know videogames use AI for NPC behavior too, right? Are ALL non-multiplayer games banned now on the ever growing AI McCarthyism?
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>>109039348
When will she be coming back? Its been a while since she went to get that wallet.
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>>109035554
>official holoslop
KWABOTY
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>>109040657
Justice for immerbot!
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>>109040777
Now THATS a factoid i can get behind!
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>>109035554
If they did that would be a really stupid decision that goes against the profits of the company and members, not to mention the amount of weirdos you will get from this schizoing machine
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>>109035673
fucking always
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>>109037983
You mean the artist made animated image using his own art? He should sue himself then.
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>>109036219
>generative is suddenly le bad
Motherfucker how to you think Minecraft worlds are generated?
PROCEDURAL GENERATION
Most text-based LLM services are built on top of fully public text works and you can download them yourself.
The issue with generative AI is retards assuming ownership of the works as well as the training data being stolen works.
That's the issue, that's why people hate it.
It's not the fact it fucking generates something, only shit-tier deviantfart furries hate that because their niche Patreon scam-games are threatened.
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>>109039986
AI image generation, yes. Jesus fucking Christ, none of this stuff is even AI. AI is just a word purposely misused by companies to sell their products. By your definition they are all ideologically opposed to video games because they've always had AI. Kiara specifically literally tried to leech Neuro of all things.
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>>109042597
Well artists hate AI art mostly because art is a very personal passion and it would put them out of business (also if people actually consume AI slop for art it destroys basically all of humanity's views on art and what separates man from beast). It's just an older generation not ready to accept they were animals all along.
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Based AI enjoyers.
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>>109035676
because it's a popular opinion on the western internet that you HAVE to hate any and all use of AI.
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>>109042597
minecraft world generation does not use machine learning in any way dumbo
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>>109035554
Yes
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>>109035673
That might be true, but is what he posted wrong? They're not really partnered with an AI chatbot?
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>>109050315
Koyori has had an official AI chatbot of herself from long before you heard of vtubers.
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>>109046154
Who said machine learning? Only you.
The retarded part I was pointing out in that post is merely the fact that some AI is "generative", which is exactly that - retarded.
There's fuck-all wrong with something being generative, it's the background of where that generative data came from that's the big issue for most people as a huge chunk of it, mostly in the image and video space, was data that was mass copied or literally pirated in some instances.
Not to mention the fact there has been literal illegal content used in those models in some cases, like CP. (definitely to train the models not to generate, right Sammy boy, that guy always gives me the fucking creeps)
In the case of Minecraft, the generative processes used to construct worlds is based on various perlin noise systems as well as hand-crafted assets laid out based on templates (villages, dungeons, etc.)
In the case of Transformers, it's training data used by the ML model to discover the relations and then construct new outputs based on said relations, being seeded by nothing but random noise.
Both generative.
Even in the case of Minecraft, the potential for theft is there as well - you could feed a voxelized version of a game world in to a generator and create worlds based on, say, Disney IPs, Harry Potter, LotR, etc.
They'd be none too happy to see you do that, but it is entirely possible too. It's not even hard to make a voxelizer to to that, I even made a 2D version of the same concept where you scan over an image and create bounding boxes to use for some other later stage, quite easy to do.
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>>109050670
Why are you focusing on me? His intent was clearly to bash people freaking out about the Gura AI recently. I never stated my opinion on that.
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>>109035554
no
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>>109035801
They're thriving so much that everyone is leaving or having mental breakdowns
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>>109050968
People also throw a fit over the environmental aspect, and that datacenters are pumping toxic chemicals into the air in poor neighborhoods
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>>109060197
Or the city passing down higher power bills to normal homes thanks to datacenters
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>>109060197
i think the electricity argument is pretty hypocritical though. gaming makes up 1% of global power use and no one criticizes that
but when someone gens an image or uses gpt suddenly these people turn into greenpeace lol
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>>109035849
>collabed with the biggest Ai vtuber to ever exist.
Lmao
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>>109036766
>don't seem to have any issue using chatGPT.
Somewhat unrelated but it became quite a shock to me when a lot of the artists I followed that had proclaimed to be anti Ai turned out to used online Ai chatbots to rp with.
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>>109039348
I miss this little nigga like you wouldn't believe .
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>>109060049
>Make enough money to retire early at 30 and chill at their own pace
Sounds like thriving to me. Many other vtubers (corpo and indies) can't even quit or chill because they'd starve if they do
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>>109060197
To an extent I get it as well.
Companies constantly throwing more and more AI memes at every solution instead of programming it on their own is stupid as fuck.
Here's my ass sitting here trying to write a system that works on top of LLMs to limit hitting them in the first place, to try create more believable characters, but other companies are like "no, throw a million more dice at it! progress!!"
Either a few things need to happen to make it better:
1) neuromorophic processors reach GPU densities, making AI trivial to run and function even better
2) more nuclear power rollout, or more green power rollout with storage
3) AI crashes and burns - unlkely, superpowers are literally betting their economies on AI winning, if it doesn't, that's a step away from genuine world war.
Sadly it is here to stay as is its abuses, unless society at large tries to at least limit the damage but the ones making those decisions want the AI everywhere world so we are currently stuck with shit-tier AI garbage everywhere for the very near future, despite all those "OpenAI is gonna die next year!!!" celebrations, they won't. I wish they would because that prick Scam Altman single-handedly ruined the GPU and RAM industry, but they won't.



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