>embezzlement>fraud>wage theft>tampering>0 charges>0 jail time served>0 consequencesHow has there been no news on Gunrun ever since he destroyed Vshojo? Did he really get away with everything?
>>109037599I unironically think he fled the country
>>109037599He didn't actually do anything illegal. A startup dying is not a crime. Happens every day.
>>109037812What about stealing IM's charity fund?
>>109037599protected by the very vtubers that benefited from the scam. That's why.
>>109037599they won’t bring charges because it would mean that there were talents involved in the fraud and would be exposed in discovery.
The biggest 5 head move iron lung did with her staff and all her associated streaming circle was to do a charity donathon straight after this incident to pretend like they were never associated with the scamming at all.
They all were involved, so they never pursued any charges. It's better this way, also many of them used the money for an easy life
>>109037868Nobody reported it to the authorities
>>109037599All of vshojo were in on It, if they report him they re gonna end up in trouble too
The talents talking about legal proceedings was just larp bullshit. They were all in ripping off the investors and taking the seed money in one way or another. If they took this to law enforcement they would've had some skeletons revealed.
>>109037868>>109038896Bet she stole a good chunk of it desu>>109039178This.
Everyone including the talents was in on it, they all took the VC investors for a ride. Gunrun fell on his sword but walked away with millions everyone else pretending they didn't know nuthin
>>109037599You need someone to actually care in order for charges to happen. And it seems no one in the prosecutor's office was a Vshojo fan.
>>109039513Relevant people defintely got paid if they shut up about it. That's just how it is with scams and corruption in work places.
this happens over and over in vtubing. i'll repeat it again: you can scam vtubers and nothing will happen because they don't want their identities revealed in court documents.
>>109037599EZ money
>0 charges>0 jail time served>0 consequences
>>109039635Melody, Kuro, Geega, Matara, AmaLee names all out there and available to anyone schizo enough to look up court filings, none pursued legal action.
>>109037599Nobody sued him or pressed charges because then their own crimes would be brought to light.
>>109039717vtubing is one big scam and no one wants to risk court. everyone is dirty. scamming vtubers has 0 risk.
>>109039600>>109039513If the only victim are investors, who are naturally parasites, was it really a crime?
>>109037599In addition to the other points brought up, a vtuber agency is not high profile enough for elected officials to give a shit about prosecuting.
You are all as retarded as the same idiots that thought Selen could sue Nijisanji for free money. Litigation is not some magic button that has no cost, nor would anything about the proceedings be revealed to the public if they were happening. And most likely the fucker didn't do anything provably illegal.
>>109040199>And most likely the fucker didn't do anything provably illegal.Soliciting donations across state borders saying they're for charity and then not giving any of it to charity is wire fraud.
>>109039812You can ignore the investors if you like. There's a lot of hardworking people who paid for merch they'll never receive and people who had the goodwill to donate to charities, which never made it there. The investor fraud is just one thing in a list of crimes gunrun, his management cronies, and potentially these vtubers were involved in. If they really cared about getting back at him they could report sham company to authorities to look into. But of course that would probably uncover a lot of shit they probably dipped their toes into as well. This is like Epstein island, they all partook in something here and there and he probably has dirt on them too. So the only thing they can do is virtue signal and play the fool.
Court cases take forever especially when they're complex. We'll see what happens
>>109037599because they would basically be self-reporting
>>109041536Don't remind me how long it took diddy to be convicted despite damning evidence being publicly available.
>>109037599Matara and Imouse did a martyrdom crying tour about how awful what he did was, but that's it, in the end they are too stingy to spend any money on lawyers or risk revealing any irl information in court. So yes, he won because his opponents are cowards who would rather pretend they never got buttfucked and that dark part of their history doesn't exist.
>>109044719He declared bankruptcy and he's currently wageslaving with Doordash in LA. Won?
>>109044782I'll take all Ironmouse's charity money and you can call me poor and bankrupt all you want.Alex Jones filed for bankrupcy. 50 cent filed for bankrupcy. Are they also poor wageslaves because of that?
>>109037868There's at least a couple of ways to do that legally. Mostly it depends on how the company earmarks funds coming in, and who has access to those records normally.On top of that, VShojo as a company are the ones taking most of the heat, so you'd have to do the whole song and dance with VShojo to establish that something shady happened in the first place, and then you'd have to do another court case putting Gunrun himself on the hook for VShojo's proven crimes. It could be 2030 before anything gets to that point, if it gets there at all.
>>109039927Are elected officials in charge of prosecuting? What about the police?
>>109037868It's ok when it was half stolen.
>>109047943>steal from charityHe'll probably be fucking pardoned the way things are going these days
>>109040199you do have a duty to pay your employees though
>>109040199/vt/ is filled with morons that have never read a legal theory in their lives.
>>109037599>what is a rug pull
>>109037868Ironmouse already stole half of it herself, buthc doesn't have a charitable bone in her body.
>>109045590I don't see confirmed reports of them fucking doordashing, you disingenuous retard
>>109037774He just went back home; Jakarta. Anyway I think it was actually Apek, the CFO at the time, but people feel guilt about how that would affect ProjektMelody.
>>109052095You change the topic because you cannot engage with what I said. Pathethic loser and clearly a student of Imouse and crying Matara
>>109052494Where's my Doordash Gunrun?
>IM could have just directed donations directly to the charity like everyone else does when doing these charity drives>Instead takes the donations into her/vshojos pocket first then promises to give it to the charityEither way, things either got handled behind closed doors, they don't want to go through the courts, or they were all in on it, but we'll probably never hear about it again.
>>109037599do lawcases even matter anymore? feels like its been a long time since one of real consequence. it's just speculation, theory and settlements.
>>109050158They were indies , not employees
>>109055296Which is why it's a good idea not to mention them until they're decided.
>>109037599>gunrun>runs
>>109046188This. This whole fiasco, at most, is probably gonna be filed as a civil case, and just assembling everything to get the first hearings scheduled takes months. We were supposed to hear about a tiny update in December, but nothing happened.With how tangled up most of the courts in California are because of..other matters. A resolution to this thing isn't coming anytime soon. 3-5 years minimum.
>>109037599Nothing left to collect since he is broke.
>>109037868Ironmouse stole the money though.
>>109037599Just like Copper rat and I don't see you bitching about it
>>109062708No one has actually come out and blamed her for anything though, unless you think literally everyone in Vshojo is covering for herWhere's the money Gunrun?
>>109066241Anon ironmouse already stole money from charity before, she stole half the charity money before the vshojo shit, and she probably stole the rest afterwards considering this cunt never spent a single cent of her own money and did this roundabout shit unlike every other streamer.
>>109066304>Anon ironmouse already stole money from charity beforeProof? If this was true dramatubers would have had a field day but I've never heard anything about it.
>>109042730OJ walkedCosby ended up walkingEpstein's #2 is in a fucking palaceRich people don't see consequences, except for Epstein himself I guess, after like 20+ years.
>>109066585That movie guy Weinstein tooOr the american rappers who literally fund shootouts in the ghettosAll get an ankle monitor and a fine at best.Court system in America is corrupt as fuck if you have money
>>109066585>>109066730>niggers and jews
>>109037599>rich people>consequencespick one
>>109061929let's be real he probably has it stashed away in crypto or something waiting for the heat to die down
He HAS been arrested. It's classified. He was convicted in 2017 before Vshojo formed and in 2008 before Obama took office. Essentially someone Top Secret owns the Vshojo IP and the Ironmouse IP. You would have to have a security clearance to know this or be at the court hearings. Other people who were convicted that year in a similar covert manner included Dan Bongino (former FBI assistant director) and Tom Homan (Border Czar). There's charges that aren't public knowledge yet but the investigations have concluded. The Federal Government now owns their souls.Essentially he was permitted to proceed after 2017 so he could fulfill an agreement that wasn't illegal (making Vshojo happen on time.) He also alleged that he is a federal agent to accomplish all of that so those charges are being applied.Some of the other Vshojo "talents" were also convicted. It's all because of the original Vtuber general threads which were concealed in 2012 when Barrack Obama changed the smith-mundt act. Tom Homan helped them to cover up the original Vtuber general threads then assisted in getting terrorists into our country under Obama. Dan Bongino started the 764 network stealing the Roblox intellectual property. Tom Homan's wife is Geega, aka Elizabeth Homan. Matara Kan is a girl from Toronto named Korina who Dan Bongino hired to try and cover up the truth as well as solicit suicide from people leaking the truth. Dan Bongino is also responsible for the death of Esther Salas' son in 2020 as part of a gang beef he and 764 had with Esther Salas.Look up 18 USC 241, which was one of the charges for all of these people. There are life sentences that can be applied for this sort of felony, which were applied in all of these cases I've listed.TheGunRun is a small fish amongst a bunch of big fish who were arrested during this conspiracy to insurrect America. If someone wants to release the classified documents here with access to them I authorize it as the ranking officer. The President signed off on it in 2019 when the knowledge the election was going to be stolen was discovered.
>>109071488It was something like 30,000 arrests.
>>109071488lol
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>>109074292why did you bump this thread like that anon
>>109037904That doesn't make sense tho. What would she gain by reporting it, if she was a part of it?If she wanted to shift the blame, then the easiest line of defense for Gunrun would be just to show the receipts. That didn't happen, he publicly admitted to his wrongdoing and didn't try to defend himself. Every ex-employee testimony pointed the same way. They had over a dozen of people working for them, excluding talents and past employees.You have a case of catching a murderer red handed in blood stained shirt with a weapon in their hand, telling you he is the killer and you're wondering if the gardener might be the culprit.
>>109076365>You have a case of catching a murderer red handed in blood stained shirtActually that appears to be a Macross shirt.
>>109074386He is a man of zero taste and can't even think up some low effort bait
>>109076365>Mouse never once tried to use the money in her vshojo accout for expenses or personal projects and she didn't get a single follow-up call from the IDF asking if she was gonna send the money soon for an entire fucking year until people started dropping out of vshojo like flies and people started asking what the fuck was going on at vshojo at which post she conveniently realized she hadn't been paid for a year and the donation money was never sentMousefags are so god damn gullible