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previous >>109052417
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Nimi Nightmare is cute
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>More than 10 minutes since last thread
>Nimi op
grim
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>>109062106
AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
SABABROS
KEKED
YABBA DABBA DOOO
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>>109062070
Which cuck made this thread im not using it
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I will say many fucking retarded things in this thread very soon
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>Gura Is always a whore
>Cover stop gura being whore publicly
>SHow her true color once she graduate
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>>109061869
Saba I kneel!
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>>109062138
>he says whilst using it
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>>109062138
>>109062148
qrd?
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Dokibird is having a moment.
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When she was in like 1st grade Kronii would help around local shops because her family got to know the owners
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>>109062070
cute
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>>109062176
my wife yeah
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I'm making a new thread for non-cucks but I'm waiting for the cooldown. Gimme 200 seconds and I'll save you guys
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>>109062070
Yuck!
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>>109062185
Why is she like this
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>>109062176
sniff
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>>109062159 (me)
i mean nimi
my bad
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At this point the problem is not
>God someone please stop the Indie Avengers from forming they're going to kill HoloEN
but
>God someone please stop the Indie Avengers from forming they're full of retards
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>>109062185
You can take a nijinigger out of the company but you can't take the company out of a nijinigger cuz boy she sure fucking loves drama like she's still in it
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kek he got bullied off the site
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The cyst has assumed direct control
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>>109062185
She needs to setup another attempt to regain numbers and relevancy
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>>109062252
Kevin HATES hololive and wants all the girls to get super covid
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>>109062201
Real thread for non-cucks >>109062254
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>>109062252
>covid
jesus this fag cant move on from anything
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>nimi and randon are probably next to eachother this very moment
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>>109062185
she's just trying to farm drama views
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>>109062252
This guy should learn to stop speaking in public
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>>109062280
No
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>>109062252
lmao
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>>109062320
Ogey...
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>>109062302
But is Mr nimi inside of misses? Or does he prefer to titfuck her?
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>>109062302
… obviously? They’re engaged, they sleep together
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>>109062338
She kept whining for premium mediums dor a reason
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>>109062340
He's sleeping on the couch.
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>>109062395
bettel only got 1k for a collab with an ex-homo? those are just his regular numbers on a good day
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>>109062406
She was the one who slept on the couch the day she commented on his chat, he didn’t like that
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>>109062185
Not sure why she keeps playing these games if this keeps happening
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>>109062421
those aren't regular numbers anymore kek
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>>109062070
BASED
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Why are FUWAMOCO's birthday super totals so much lower this year? It's like a third
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>>109062466
Shitty comedian.
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Does anyone know what this Kronie is talking about? Did something happened on VC streams in 2022?
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>>109062185
What's her numbers like now?
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>>109056860
rinse and repeat
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>>109062497
3k Usually
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February will be an awesome year for YouTube. I hope you are excited for it.
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>>109062493
we dont watch streams here
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Did they lose unicorns?
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>>109062450
OUR HUSBAND
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where did everyone go?
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>>109062070
>ntr thread
BAUSED
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>Saba just messages someone she follows and Holodrones have a complete meltdown
The most powerful Vtuber
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>>109062536
>Remember Pearl Harbor
What did they mean by this?
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>>109062546
Sleep
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>>109062528
Add the country flags of each vtuber. Victoria is British, the rest are American except for Saba. She comes from "Atlantis".
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>>109062106
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5 IP thread
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>>109062587
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>>109062546
Anyone that isn't a cuck is here >>109062254
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>EN Superchats January and Year to Date 2026
Source: Hololyzer (JST monthly cutoff). Superchats are converted to USD using the stream day's JPY to USD rate.

>Top performers
FWMC stays strong and they take the first SC gold of the year with their eleventh hour two days early birthday celebration pulling them into first.
IRyS and Kronii finish off the 10k podium with per stream averages miles ahead of everyone else.
Biboo spends a little too much time playing Fromsoft in January to make it into the top 3 but still pulls in a respectable 4th.
Ina had a surprisingly strong performance this month with several solid streams pushing her out of the bottom 3 of EN for once

>YTD
Only one month!
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>>109062613
Much better. OUR HUSBAND
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>>109062634
>Hololive Superchats Year to Date 2026
Source: Hololyzer (JST monthly cutoff). Superchats are converted to USD using the stream day's JPY to USD rate.

>Notes
No talent has earned $100,000 yet this year. Obviously.
13 talents average at least $10,000 per month. 3 ENs, 1 DEV_IS, and 9 JPs.
The top three medians in 2025 are Ayame (4074), Korone (2902), and Lamy (1315).
The top three means are Laplus (5406), Ayame (4074), and Marine (3643).

>Branches
In the top 10, we have 9 JPs and 1 DEV_IS
In the top 20, we have 13 JPs, 4 ENs, and 3 DEV_IS

>Fun Facts
The inexperienced might think one month is not enough time for Koyori to build up a lead over some gens with big events... but you would be underestimating the hardest working Koyote of HoloX! She immediately takes her place over Myth and Justice in the monthly earnings. We should expect Kiara's and Ina's concert to push Myth over Koyori next month, though.
Sankisei are just barely short of crossing the $100,000 in the very first month at $92,405, more than double HoloX in second place.
Of the members with a $0 median SCs, Miko is the highest at $8087.
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>>109062657
>Gen Superchats Year to Date 2026

No graduated members were excluded!
A certain hard working Koyote is included as a fun reference point.
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>>109062666
>EN Average CCV January and Year to Date 2026
Source: Combination of Vrabi and Vstats

>Top Performers
Biboo remains at the top of EN as we enter the new year with her 9.3k average and most hours streamed. IRyS joins her with 9k
Kronii's 7.7k is the only other member to be above the ~7k second army threshold, as a combination of minimal buff content and New Years events debuff most of the other girls
Raora has a higher than usual performance, although her rare ranking in the top half and at #4 no less is mostly due to others having a weaker month than normal
Shiori is also surprisingly high. This is her first time outside of the bottom 3 since last January. January seems to be a good month for her.

>YTD
Only one month!
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>>109062252
I feel somewhat bad since Keven could end up homeless but the guy keeps making horrible mistakes. He has destroyed any chance of success with developing Hololive games but one day he needs to learn that just because you can throw shit doesn't mean you should. These overly broad hate rants are self destructive.
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>TIL Cover new project audition
what are they doing there now for dubai
holopro wasn't enough?
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>>109062689
They're going to make the contract worse
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>>109062681
You have how they were doing for Jan last year?
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>>109062548
point me the meltdown
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>>109062681
Pretty big increase for Raora
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>>109062666
how do gifts look?
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Can /vt/ get in this list?
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>>109062574
>the rest are American except
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>>109062546
sorry I was busy fucking my wife.
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>>109062466
male collabing whores
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>>109062780
The previous thread
>>109060601
>>109060702
>>109060738
>>109060767
>>109060959
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>>109062832
So what was the whole point of El Silencio???
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>>109062689
It's basically Nijisanji's VTA
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>>109062634
>>109062657
>>109062666
>>109062681
You are too good for this thread tbqh. We're lucky if we actually get numbers discussion these days.
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>>109062547
Welcome to the champions club ruffians
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>>109062783
See picrel
>>109062783
I don't track gifts. We have no way of determining the currency
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>>109062634
>>109062657
wouldn't SC revenue make more sense than SCs
at first I thought those members got more than ten thousand separate superchats before realizing that made no sense
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>>109062858
To drain unicorns as much as possible. Now that the well has run dry, it's time for male collabs
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>>109062848
More like a shitpost than meltdown though
Did you forget where you are?
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>>109062858
They imitate JPs.
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>>109062254
Pebble lostered
Nimi and indie avengers wonnered
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>>109062893
They will never be real JPs
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>>109062466
tariffs killing disposable income
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>>109062886
this is the way
unicorns are a good stepping stone for one's career. The future is with males, however
top of streamer charts/metrics are all males
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In the long run leaving Hololive is always a bad decision. Sure you get a buff at the start and then people slowly realize that it's not the same anymore and start leaving.
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the tranny samefagging in an absolute dead thread is a sad sight to see
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>>109062587
My rankings
Neuro -- 2/10. The chatbot actually sucks and it winds up being Vedal coming in to save the stream.
Lime -- 5/10. Solid workhorse, a more disciplined streamer than anyone in the industry. She can be supportive in collabs but nothing makes her stand out.
Dooby -- 3/10. So many excuses, so much scuff. She's a bit testy with people and doesn't socialize well.
Shondo -- 3/10. Drama-monger who rugpulled her GFE fanbase.
Bao -- 4/10. Whorish twitchslopper who sings alright. Has a lot of energy and is very social.
Filian -- 8/10. Loud twitchslopper. Her dancing is fun and her charisma is off the charts. Her voice is shouty and not the easiest on the ears.
Grimmi -- 6/10. Interesting stories, unique design and persona. Is a bit judgemental towards certain fans.
Nimi -- 8/10. She fell off and her content degraded since her Holo days. She's still mostly the same person. She's not putting in much effort anymore though and still hasn't changed her intro or gotten a new outfit.
Doki -- 7/10. She is very consistent and brings tremendous energy. She's great for clips and great in collabs. She's also genuinely pretty skilled at games.
Mint -- 9/10. Great model, great personality, extremely high charisma, extremely easy to watch and feel happy. She switched from creative streams to idol performances which is what she wants to do.
Saba -- 9/10. One of the best personalities who is so pleasant to watch. She doesn't stream that often though unfortunately.
Chibidoki -- 7/10. Loud twitchslopper who is quite charming. Very clippable. Mostly watched by younger audiences.
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>>109063009
removing the IP counter was a mistake
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>>109063004
Worked out for Kson.
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>>109063004
Is it? Doesn't cover take a large % of the talent's earning? Plus having to have for yearly lives cost a lot. As an indie you keep more
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>>109062875
I see. I assumed a lot of gifters would probably also SC.
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>>109062882
If you mean multiply by 0.35, I think capturing fan willingness to spend is more useful than actual cut because SCs aren't a major revenue stream compared to birthday merch.
Especially since technically mobile superchats are even worse, and we can't determine who's dumb enough to SC from their phone
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>>109062252
What a faggot
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>>109062875
Recline is real...
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>>109062421
>regular numbers
Now he's a mid 3 views
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>>109063113
no I mean you aren't putting the units on your chart
I thought you were treating all superchats of any value as the same because the column header said superchats not superchat value
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>>109062657
>>109062666
>>109062875
why are you posting #s in here
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>>109062681
I wonder what happened to the 30 day average anon.
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>>109063045
Kson stopped being independent and joined a scam corpo because going solo isn’t sustainable. To grow big, you have to specialize, which means joining an organization or building your own team.
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>>109063137
>Superchats are converted to USD using the stream day's JPY to USD rate.
>>109063150
He's still here as far as I know. He, usual tables anon, and tallyanon are supposedly working on a project together. But that's been in the works for over a year so...
I also post average charts from time to time when I see somebody make a post interesting enough to graph
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>>109063062
Not exactly. Indies also have to pay out of their own pockets and has less connections overall. Your audience may also dwindle. Overall it's a bit less and you might have to deal with more workload yourself.
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>>109063114
QRD on this guy?
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>>109063159
Who told you this....?
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>>109062421
Quickly looking most of his streams over 1k lately are raided or look like they got hit with the engine
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>>109063173
Yes I know, I'm saying you should make the chart in the image more obvious on its own
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>>109063200
Kson
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>>109063018
>One of the best personalities who is so pleasant to watch.
I never got her appeal
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how do we fix our reputation...
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melty inc
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>>109063208
For next month
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>>109062858
To show that they want nothing to do with the homos, I thought that was pretty clear
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>>109063295
looks good
sorry for being autistic about it. data presentation is just a thing for me
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>>109063062
>As an indie you keep more
That’s really not true.
If an indie tries to match what corpo vtubers get such as ads, promo, management, etc., all the little costs pile up fast. And it’s not just about money; the whole dynamic changes. Indies oftentimes pay for exposure, while corpos get paid for the exact same thing. Plus, a lot of opportunities just aren’t open to solo creators. Big contracts need stability, so they usually go to corpos.
Claiming solo work is more efficient ignores how real-world economics function.
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https://x.com/hololive_En/status/2017855436406284758
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>>109063322
Its 5hours late staff-san...
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>>109063186
He made a game about Advent, except he put a bunch of homo references in it (apparently in the Fuwamoco level), so none of the girls played it.
Since then, he's been crying like a little bitch.
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>>109063364
holy shit i wasn't aware of the homo shit
this makes it so much funnier
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>>109063356
for what time zone? they're using PDT (even though daylight savings time isn't in effect right now)
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>>109063364
I thought the homo references were in the minigame that looked like a city, not the fuwamoco one that was minecarts
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>>109062106
God I hate how people willingly associate with this fucking schizo
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>>109063404
got this from the steam community screenshots
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>>109062070
>Cuckold thread
Disgusting.
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You know it's funny that save for like 4 people this thread has exclusively been made to piss off others

No loyalty just "I want to make people mad"
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wuffians?
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>>109063513
So this is what Fuwawa meant by dusty wuffians
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>>109062536
All I got from this was that Anya posts on 5ch instead of posting here
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>>109063451
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>>109063404
Oh you're right it's this one
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>>109063364
Im suprised that not even Shiori played it
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>>109063404
fwmc map has his hat iirc
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>>109063614
this was pre-brick
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https://files.catbox.moe/yrkvgo.txt
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>>109063364
the guy is a retard
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ttps://files.catbox.moe/ci6kn1.mp3
>FRIENDLY REMINDER!!
we love Mori here
we love Kiara here
we love Dooby here
we love Ina here
we love Saba here
we love Namie here
we love Nimi here
we love IRyS here
we love Shachi here
we love Bae here
we love Kronii here
we love Fuwawa here
we love Mococo here
we love Nerissa here
we love Biboo here
we love Shiori here
we love ERB here
we love Cecilia here
we love Raora here
we love Gigi here
we love Randon OUR HUSBAND here

we hate Kiaraschizo/Egguardo/Baeschizo here
we hate Selenfag here
we hate homobegging nijishitters here
we hate all schizos here
>Umm, achuwee, we hate-
We hate YOU, you falseflagging cocksucking son of a dead drunken fat whore
>We
Yes we, You can kill yourself and go to hell
We all would be happy if you killed yourself and died right now, nobody would fucking miss you, especially not your whore mother who takes dicks inside and out 24/7
We won't fucking miss you when you are gone, we will celebrate
if I could hire a hitman on you right now, I would
I wish you nothing but the worst and most painful death possible and eagerly look forward to the day you die alone and miserable
Amen
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>>109063731
It's funny how different this guy is from the one who made the Kronii game
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>>109063673
115 CCGG COLLABS

ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTEEN
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I guess Fuwamoco are gonna release their new orig later
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>>109062185
this is why I stopped watching doki, you can clearly see she belongs in niji
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>>109063626
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>>109063731
You know, if the only way people watch your favourite Homos is if you shove them in as a jumpscare

Maybe start rethinking your opinion of them
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>>109063498
>>109063901
three bettel references in this game guy should've just made a homo fangame
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>>109063969
Why wont devs understand the moment a homo is inserted the game dies. Just look at the holo fgc game that got dropped by every single girl that played it before after adding in homos.
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>>109063933
It's insane that they don't understand by pulling this shit it only makes people dislike them even more.
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>>109063969
People remembered the retard from his Ame meltdown anyway. Should have kept his yap shut in the first place.
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>>109064019
Idol Showdown? Yeah

Also the implications of Homos beating the girls, lesson NOT learned from HZNTL
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>>109063557
>One of the highest SC in NijiEN
>Now one of the highest CCV in NijiEN too
All hail Aia, new queen of NijiEN (only below Melocco)
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the january gainers list is interesting

DEV_IS seems to be gaining the fastest these days, considering the top 4 are vivi, hajime, su and riona

Marine is well down from peak but 2 10k ticks in a month still puts her at 5th ahead of everyone else. Laplus also managed 2 ticks this month

Raora is the top EN at 18k, kind of pathetic really. I don't know what the deal is with EN, it seems like no-one in EN knows how to gather new outside attention.
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>>109064073
Not long now till Riona overtakes cc
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>>109064073
I could have sworn FWMC ticked two times this month.
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>>109064073
everyone knows how just ask management to beg first army for attention. but if you do that you won't develop your own fans
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>>109064107
they had 2 ticks in december at least, just not jan
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>>109064073
Oh wow, I didn't know Biboo had less than Nerissa in subs. I haven't looked at subs numbers in forever lmao
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>>109063018
Overeating filian underrated lime
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>>109064117
outside attention matters more than filling out your within-hololive-fans numbers

none of the ENs really seem to be pushing to expand their own fanbases at all
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>>109063265
I don't think they realize 4chan isn't white people it's 3rd worlders larping as Americans
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>>109064130
Nerissa whored out her entire family for numbers.
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>>109064130
it's nice that they're always there to check every once in a while
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>>109063200
>Kson gets scammed so joins Vshojo so someone can do her merch so she wont get scammed
>gets scammed by Vshojo
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>>109064134
Isnt she MIA for more than 2month now?
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>>109064073
Someone had posted last year tally and almost all of the highest sub gainers were people who stream a lot and lived in japan

>En has to proactively take part in 3d variety shows and lives else they won't gain subs
>For this they need to learn Japanese and move to Japan. Else they have to collab with fleshies and indies which they can't because all of them are drama pilled
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>>109064019
that game had the most potential to blow up out of any holo fangame since holocure even big fighting game streamers were playing and praising it
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>>109064073
>it seems like no-one in EN knows how to gather new outside attention.
you telling me all that botting they've been doing since the start of LAST YEAR hasn't produced any results? Shiiiiiiiiittt!! Maybe they gotta think of something else.
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>>109064073
>it seems like no-one in EN knows how to gather new outside attention.
you guys bitch and moan anytime any of them try doing anything outside the box
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>>109064205
They should bot harder.
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>>109062106
Chat is this real
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>>109064190
leeching from the Japanese scene is going to get you better numbers than not getting any attention from literally anybody, sure, but that's not your only option. Indies and fleshies are even worse though, they're even more of a ghetto than Japan.

I dunno, I get the feeling that everyone is complacent and don't feel any drive to grow. Everyone just seems happy with their lot. Good for them I guess but the numbers sure aren't interesting as a result.
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>>109064205
raora is right there in the top 7 retard
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>>109062070
Did we talk about this?

The virgin maria ai guy got outted for using his niji sanji fan account
I cannot verify it because he nuked that account after getting caught trying to make both fanbase attack each other
https://x.com/Hell_Descended/status/2017816804664742113
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>>109064130
music buff
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>>109063765
Well...
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>>109064258
Raora was the least botted and least raided of EN last year, might even the lowest in ccv average of all EN. So clearly she's not included in the "botted EN members" discussion.
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>>109064130
I would prefer nerissa to gain more subs than biboo because I want her to succeed music wise before biboo

Biboo has lots to learn skill wise
t.pebble
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>>109064073
CC has the highest chance of graduating next. She doesn't give a fuck anymore and honestly she never seemed to. She's the most obvious one when it comes to the "I'm just in this for the money" vibe. Certainly not Hololive material.
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>>109064205
>you telling me all that botting they've been doing since the start of LAST YEAR
Yes NijiEN has been losing subs bigly
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>>109064304
o so you're just being retarded on purpose carry on
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>>109064073
what site btw? can i get dec 2025 one?
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>>109064311
who is your oshii sister?
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>>109064073
where's miko?
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here's the january views chart

Marine -> Holocorpochannel -> Suisei make for a very normal top 3, it's basically always those 3 in some order depending on who's uploaded an MV or a particularly viral short that month

Niko and Hajime have been solid, consistent views gatherers since debut. They both seem to really focus on leveraging their holo position for success across more than just streams. The Other flow glows are at 7th, 8th and 14th, so they're all trying to grow. I guess a lot of this is debut energy, everyone does seem to try their hardest in the first few years before having the energy beaten out of them.

The top EN is Mori, although Ina had a good month almost beating Mori.
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>>109063220
>>109064178
Anonchama....just think for a sec... why she had to find new place for create her merch until she got scammed in the first place?
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>>109064305
someone teach Nerissa about having a sub counter during karaoke
I just want more karaoke from Rissa
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>>109064345
>>108120894

Yearly count (2025)
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>>109064357
Miko lost 30k in January
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>>109064378
I would prefer her to do at least one or two karakoe per month and reboradcast it thrice so that she can farm subscribers

>Hajime and Kanade have been doing this and its working for them same with ERB
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>>109064349
My oshi is Hololive.
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>>109064383
Nijisanji
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>>109064397
I thought the yabs were a nothingburger or are her fans just retards that bought the holoan narratives?
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>>109064401
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>>109064418
I mean it's just 30k, that's pretty small if she bounces back this month
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>>109064418
30k is literally nothing
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>>109064073
Hajime is the perfect example of hard work. Even after breaking 1 mil she's still gaining subs non stop. Streams regularly, releases great shorts constantly, originals and takes part in side quests like the peanut guy stream.
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>>109064418
True
Btw Guess who
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>>109064440
we have liggers and phasefags in this thread
be nice
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I will only say this once. If we consider Kson has been deceived, it's not surprising. But if we say that people who have been Hololivetalent (COCOCK) for years were deceived, that would be a different story.

Kesorn's problem wasn't that she lacked knowledge and was deceived, but that she either lacked connections or the connections she once had were destroyed and forcing her to find new ones.

>But
>China
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>>109064448
answer
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>>109064448
Elira?
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>>109064448
a niji
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Guess who
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>>109064462
And she got scammed so she joined Vshojo.
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>>109064275
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA What a faggot
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>>109064205
It ain't helping them sellout merch either
>>109004736
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>>109064493
Answer
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>>109062185
Theres a reason she wasn't scouted in Hololive. At least Mint doesn't act like this.
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>>109064501
For 1500 merch unit only 125 left after le retarded tariff is good anon and also she was the top 10 channels to grow subs in 2025 even more than nijiEN debuts thats speaks in fucking volumn >>109064383
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>>109063159
it could have worked if she found herself a man, like any of the top fem fleshies on twitch
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>>109064462
she got scammed by managers 2 times
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>>109064527
>Theres a reason she wasn't scouted in Hololive.
Yeah the girl who was pushed to suicide now acts all menhera and has trust issue
>I wonder where she worked and how she gained this behaviour

Nijisanji - "Join us and get fucked mentally physically emotional and spiritually " *No refunds*
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>>109064527
What was her appeal in the first place? She seems like your average generic fps streamer. Would she be this relevant if it wasn't for the whole niji drama?
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>>109064508
He lost 20k subs in December? gosh he's going to graduate soon
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>>109064535
it was more than 1500
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>>109064562
Here is your answer (ps she was mooms friend and mooms is super autistic about making friends)
>>109064561
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>>109064311
finally, the true "Autofister" will reunite!
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>>109064418
Antis were unsubscribing her because they got banned and can't post in Miko's chat anymore. Also it was a nothingburger because Miko literally still got high CCV and sold a lot of merch https://x.com/i/status/2017824731102404859
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>>109063673
>>109063824
THEY HATE EACH OTHER
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>>109064583
Why would antis have been subscribed to Miko in the first place?
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>>109064345
vtube tracker

here's december, obviously kanata won this month
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>>109064623
if you care about someone enough to anti them it's not so crazy that you'd have subscribed at some point
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>>109064311
graduate why and to do what? why not just coast in hololive?
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>>109064623
Keep tabs on potential shit for their made up "yabs", obviously
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>>109064623
Keep your friends close and enemies closer
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>>109064640
To get rid of the homework stuff and use the holo momentum to rebuild/increase her indie fanbase.
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>>109064548
>she got scammed by managers 2 times
Kson's manager is Mamane and she never scam Kson.
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>>The country that produces VTuber merchandise at the lowest cost is China.
Now, do you understand Kson's problem?
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>>109064418
>ignoring the fact that some anti keeps botting her subs then unsubscribing them for their shitposting
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>>109064704
Did you know cover is moving quarter of its merch production to Indonesia?
They tested this with Chromatic future and the merch was selling like hot cakes now they have started to make more merch with First army. Sooner or later they might increase production there
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>>109064636
>>109064641
Then it's safe to say the antis who unsubscribed from Miko's channel will eventually subscribe back since they care about her
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>>109064759
I know but we are talking about 2021 era.
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>>109064252
Kiara is expanding her audience by dual streaming on Twitch
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>>109064759
Actually, I support this idea. The cost of production in China is not significantly cheaper than in Indonesia. But Indonesia's strength lies in the fact that it doesn't have the kind of political problems that China does. And Indonesians have the second or third highest number of Japanese speakers in the world.

It's very wise choice.
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>>109064844
And if we consider that some VTuber products are destined for America or Europe, manufacturing them in Indonesia would significantly reduce transportation costs through the Singapore Strait and minimize tax issues.
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>>109064844
>the kind of political problems that China does
Muslims?
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>>109063614
>Shiori
>playing something by someone who insulted Ame
There's a better chance of a fwmc homocollab lmao
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>>109064881
Coco, Haachama, Fubuki and Taiwan incident.
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>>109064825

call wawa all you want but shes the most hard working EN talent of hololive

Yeah she has low ccv but atleast shes still /here/ with us
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>>109064659
>homework stuff
Is entirely optional.
You'd only go solo if what you want is something that you don't need a company and support for, or think you can do better on your own for some reason.
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https://x.com/hololive_En/status/2017885635789365615
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlyX8EiGVPI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlyX8EiGVPI
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>>109064275
This is a big deal if it confirmed
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>>109064953
Su my beloved...
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>>109064953
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>>109064954
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>>109064501
Reminder that niji merch other than the cookie cutter button and picture, range from 9-60 units.
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https://clips.twitch.tv/WittyInventiveMeatloafBIRB-5etWYzWb34cEEinm
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>>109064844
>And Indonesians have the second or third highest number of Japanese speakers in the world.
I was surprised how many of them come here. A lot of Indo chinks too.
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>>109064980
he got caught samefagging
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>>109064275
oof Cover has lead now
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>>109064275
Reminder that this guy is a chink nousagi who is also part of Cover management so the fight against antis isn't over until nousagis and management are expulsed from hololive entirely
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>>109064623
Same reason antis follow twitter account, if anything happen and it get lockdown they already have access to it.
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>>109064527
She's basically a better skilled Botan who whores out less and is less petty so she'd have been a good fit for holoEN.
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>>109065049
Kill yourself, Nijifaggot.
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>>109065082
She'd have just formed her own little FPS collab circle with Ame and Mumei and sat there. No idea if she'd have been incentivized to get into the jap FPS circle.
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>>109065107
t. Cover bootlicker
https://x.com/Hell_Descended/status/2001272773302452292
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>>109063765
TOTAL HOMO ERASURE!
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>>109064623
Miko kept her chat subscribe only. They started subscribing during the haachama yab in october and Kanata's graduation announcement in December.
Once they notice that she could just change how long you have to be subscribed for to chat, they just unsubscribed.
There's probably also a portion of retarded casual box pusher who somehow bought into the faction rrats because they unironically believe high twitter numbers means it's true.
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>>109064275
>>109064980
>>109065031
>>109065035
>>109065049
So, Kanata's last hidden determination of her graduation has finally been fulfilled.

Now it's time for the angel to rest.
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Subaru having a JRPG weekend midlife crisis. She plays long series during this slot but is trying to figure out what the differences are between an RPG, Galge, and Adventure game
>Persona
>Danganronpa
>DDLC
>Umamusume
Sometimes her normalfag background is so cute
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>>109065169
Retard, Kanata sacrificed herself to lure this nousagi chink out into the open from within Cover management.
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>>109065203
so are you guys not trying to move the ball into pekora fanbase because your retarded general got caught samefagging under miko anti post?

Idk until when you guys are going to keep this up but sooner or later yall are gonna fuck up
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>>109065203
Rope, retard.
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>>109064927
>Yeah she has low ccv
Does that even matter when she's always selling out her merch and get's a fuckton of SCs?
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>>109065203
This.

Because Kanata refused to tell anyone, not even her closest friends. We've narrowed down the suspects to just a few and it's not surprising that someone in such a high position like him would know Kanata was going to graduate from the start or June.
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>>109065215
Retard, the guy is a high ranking Cover executive and Pekora crony according to the guy who exposed him in the first place.
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>>109065250
>the guy attacking hololive members and comparing them unfavorably to niji is really a fan of one of the girls, guys
You're an actual fucking retard.
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>>109065265
Why does he never attack Pekora except for a few weak jabs? Why does he only focus on Miko? Why did he only start after Pekomiko split up? Why is he allowed to continue to spam anti shit despite being a high ranking Cover exec?
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>>109065215
I wouldn't go so far as to accuse Pekora but the allegations of upper echelons secretly leaking information and engaging in anti-talent activities likely have some basis in truth.
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>>109065199
She should play Trails in the Sky remake
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>>109065203
>>109065177
>>109065049
it's just kind of fascinating you think anyone could believe something like this. like its the caliber of lie a down syndrome person would invent after stealing a reese's pieces from a 7/11.
at that point you just let him have it
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>>109065281
I miss reanposter... it's been a year or so since I saw him
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the fuck
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The fact that there's a nousagi in the management is a long known fact. It's been proven time and time again and Kanata's graduation was the last straw. It's insane people are still defending him at this point.
Pekora is innocent despite her attitude towards Miko. 99.9999 of nousagis are innocent despite their attitude towards other talents. But that one guy in the management that is a nousagi should be crucified for what he's donne to the whole of hololive.
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>>109065282
In criminology. we call these methods are "The process of elimination" and "Profiling".
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>>109065307
somehow Rushia returned
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>>109065310
It's time to choose whether (YOU) want to help one bastard or choose the others.
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>>109062497
>>109062510
so 10x nijiEN still despite spamming FPS slop, I don't know which part of that is funnier
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>>109065275
>a high ranking Cover exec
describe to me what you think a "high ranking" executive does? colloquially that means C-suite but I doubt you have Yagoo or the CTO/CFO in mind. I don't think you really have anything in mind desu
>>109065318
Actually in criminal psychology we call it paranoid schizophrenia
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Jeezas what happened to gen 5, despite all the Cover favoritism they're the gen with the least watch hours in all of hololive
>>109065343
He's literally the head of marketing, follow the evidence
https://x.com/Hell_Descended/status/2001273391077380143
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>>109065343
Do you think detectives are mentally stable?
They constantly suspect other people of being bad in order to make money. But on the other hand, they are professionals at catching criminals.
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>>109065275
>Why does he never attack Pekora except for a few weak jabs?
Retard.
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>Niji 8th anniversary
>No Kuzuha
Oh I guess he's graduating
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>>109065310
Spamming and samefagging doesn't change that you're a retard.
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>>109065049
>>109065247
>>109065278
>>109065363
Reminder that this is an Indonesian from Facebook that sits in the sakura miko general and he's legitimately schizophrenic
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>>109065390
Hey, this isn't an attack on Pekora or her fans nousagis at all! Why are you defending that guy?
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some of you niggers need help
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I thought Miko was cancelled.. how could antis be so thoroughly humiliated that they resort to samefagging on Twitter?
"Sakura Miko, Best-Selling Author" sounds nice.
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>>109065408
>Hey, this isn't an attack on Pekora or her fans nousagis at all!
>>109065049
> isn't over until nousagis
Cant even proofread your own shit.
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>>109065363
hmm shouldn't IRyS have a larger area than Gigi? she has more watch hours
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>>109065416
True
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>>109065363
I like how gen 2 is just Subaru
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>>109065432
Donnie and many chumbuds threw a melty over this video btw
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>>109065429
NTA
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How many views does Elira and Finana get nowadays?
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>>109065442
>Subaru 27k average * 103 hours = 2.8m
>Ayame 11k average * 5 hours = 55k
>Choco 3k average * 10 hours = 30k
Subaru has more watch hours than Ayame TIMES Choco...
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>>109065363
Thoughts on Polka's merch selling incredibly well gokischizo?
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>>109064275
He was already fucked the moment he gave away his personal information to the youtube legal support team to restore his 40 miko deleted videos, cover corp already know who he is for a week already. This is just another piece of karma other than them bringing his ass to court.
Gonna eat two breakfast in his memory tomorrow.
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>>109065482
oops off by a factor of 1000 I missed a *1k somewhere. but the point being she is almost the entire gen's watch hours
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>>109065468
idk what this girl did but this is quite sad.
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NIJI GOLD 100K DOORRRYAAAAAAAA
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>>109065493
How long did it take to sell out, retard?
>>109065496
Yet Cover still hasn't fired him.
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>>109065491
>>109065502
https://hololyzer.net/2j3j/channel/UCIeSUTOTkF9Hs7q3SGcO-Ow.html
https://hololyzer.net/2j3j/channel/UCu-J8uIXuLZh16gG-cT1naw.html

Hmm both fianna and elira are myth level in seniority right?

This is very very grim
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>>109065496
He is a retard and I understand why Miko might be busy from now on.
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MOM NIKO IS SEXTING RIONA AGAIN
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/xFwBlj1ASVY
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After looking through all 5 of the dev_is girls youtube account I can proudly say these girls are working their ass off.
Litreal content machines
>Posting shorts everyday
>streaming at least 3 or 4 times per week
>if one member is absent they work even harder
>Taking part in all variety 3d lives
>also the flowglow channel is growing at a rapid pace
Hmm I feel like the advent guy is behind this gen too
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>>109065520
Legally, we can't dismiss this person yet; we need to prove their guilt first. Therefore, it's best to keep them in their position, prevent them from abusing their power, and conduct an internal investigation retrospectively.
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Are you guys excited?
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Atleast we have one EN in top 10
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>>109065622
Fell
For
It
Again
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>>109065496
That's so stupid.
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>no Miko today
>Niji gold
Pekora is so useless
Grim
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>>109065652
>spamming First Army collabs puts Vivi in the top 10
If it works I suppose
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>AFK stream
>16k
tsuyoi
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AR
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>>109065389
>>109065416
>>109065429
>samefagging
>retard
>nigger
>afuckinggrammarnaziin2026
These are the kind of nousagis that make you hate pekora's guts. Fucking hell. They have literal toxic shit for brains that nothing comes out of their mouth that isn't toxic.
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Same capacity as Kuzuha's SF8 offline event
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>Another event copying Nijisanji
>getting the inferior Yokohama Buntai hall compared to Kuzuha having the most prestigious hall in Yokohoma
Reminder that Cover would rather fund nijislop like this than give Kiara a proper sololive.
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>>109065679
You will watch it and you will enjoy it
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>>109065408
>nousaginousaginousaginousaginousaginousaginousaginousaginousaginousaginousaginousaginousaginousaginousaginousaginousaginousaginousaginousaginousaginousaginousaginousaginousagi
>hey nobody is attacking nousagis!
kys immediately.
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>>109065673
anon she streamed 32 times too. Yes first army buff is real but she is working her ass too. (Also this girl isn't a streamer she is more of an ex-idol)
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>>109065685
There is unironically something wrong with your brain, nijifaggot.
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>>109065693
You lost gokischizo>>109065690
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>>109065673
Vivi deserves it. She's a streaming monster that didn't back down when antis tried to bring her down. Instead she doubled down and proved sticking to your beliefs pays out.
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>>109065693
are you two in the same discord ? Can I get an invite too kek?
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>>109065606
there are 9 devis girls
but ya post 2023 they started hiring people that really wanted to go all in on holo and were motivated
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>>109065679
>>109065695
this is ultra comfy desu
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>>109065712
You're right liveposting is sooooo cringe, let's go back to shitting on Biboo instead
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>>109065708
Kuzuha held an event purely for nijisanji livers, Botan is whoring out to male ecelebs and not making this holo exclusive. Botan is a traitor to hololive compared to Kuzuha supporting and investing back into niji.
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>>109065707
actually, that anon was called Holodrone or bootlicker recently....
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>>109065713
I think they should do the same for EN too. Have girls who are living nearby cover studio so they can use the 3D booths like how Dev_is is doing.

Or at least make them spam shorts and dance videos
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>>109065700
She can stream that much all she wants but it’s the Pekora collabs that give her the watch hours to be over 1m and in top 10. Without them, she is numerically not in the top 10.
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>>109065698
That not me anonchammer.
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>>109065723
so what happen with the investment? Did any of the livers mindshare increase
Wait a second is this the same event with the WHORE RING GIRLS that was going viral.
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>>109065735
Keep crying BOTshit's event won't even get close to Kuzuha's numbers unless she bots, she'll be lucky if she can sell out the smaller hall.
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>>109065728
>Have girls who are living nearby cover studio so they can use the 3D booths like how Dev_is is doing.
I don't disagree that this definitely helps massively but there are still ways even without that. People should realize it all comes down to the person. Take Biboo for example. Does she spam shorts and dance vids? No but she's hardworking and gets rewarded for it.
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>>109065733
True i agree but if you didn't know she is able to pull massive numbers without pekora
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>>109065502
Finana
>got groomed on discord by fans
>fans started "helping" her by telling her what to stream
>spams Genshin and Nascar content
>content becomes very unwatchable, extremely long gameplays, all gacha stuff
>it turned out she was giving private discord sessions to the discord fans
>management tells her to stop
>says she will but does it anyway
>leaks her audition tape to them which got spread everywhere
>goes on a rant about parasocial fucks
>gets dropped by the chinese clippers that were propping her up
>baits lewd asmr a few times, but after the second 'lol I tricked you' rugpull people stopped caring
>spams male-heavy collabs, what she calls the "scooby gang", which are truley unwatchable for male eyes
>management doesn't like her, the clippers don't like her, most of her fans left her
>becomes more forward about losing her virginity last year
>very strong implications she's dating another liver (clawmark)
Originally she was kept in check by Pomu and Elira. But as the branch added more people, those two spent less time with her and went about their own business. It means nobody was there to guide her, since NijiEN doesn't do personal managers. As a result she flew off the tracks and wrecked.
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>>109065728
that would be near impossible to get 4 girls who can speak english, make the holo cut and all live near tokyo
shorts spam is a content choice thing, not all of devis do it
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>>109065740
KEK So you lost?
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why are you guys so angry all the time
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I like Miko
I like Pekora
I'm fucking HATE Pekomiko wars!
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>>109065740
Kuzusissy you are pathetic
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>>109065652
>lui still in the first page, didn't stream for 3 weeks
are the people under her even trying anymore
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>>109065750
10ks on a JP channel is below mid tier ENs, less than an EN 7k. I wouldn’t call that massive myself
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>>109065748
>Take Biboo for example
yeah but we cant have a gen with 5 biboos right? The best way for all them to grow is if they are willing to collab together all the time and arent basically le tummy hort 2.0
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>>109065765
>>109065778
You should be more worried that Cover is wasting money on inviting male ecelebs than actually improving their management or firing Takayuki.
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>>109065786
Is that like yen to usd conversion rate?
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>>109065762
actually a lot of vtubers have moved to japan (english speaking ones) and there are tons of vtubers who want to join hololive because of being idol and famous
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>>109065794
That hurt..........
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>>109065794
You should be worried about Lulu getting raped by stalkers again
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Yui so hot
https://x.com/Xross_Stars/status/2017523396301754652
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>>109065530
Elira was an absolutely solid streamer, and incredibly well liked, until the blackstream. Since that time she started spamming all-male collabs so much that it became obnoxious. She brings up "the boys" every 5 minutes to keep female viewers engaged. It made her content unwatchable.
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>>109065795
ENs are culled from their actual numbers, around 1.5 - 2x.
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>>109065733
Why are you trying to downplay her numbers?
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>>109065786
anon that is there first year of streaming (also that girl is a newbie streamer with stamina of biboo)
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SHAKA!!!!
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>>109065810
Anycolor solved Lulu's stalker problem and she's back. When is Cover going to fire the nousagi chink faction in management?
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>nijipag crashes out after realizing Botan is more important than Kuzuha
Never call him kuzusissy guys
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>>109065795
EN cull is generally around a 1/3 cull up or down depending on how many JP viewers they have
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>>109065825
>mock niji for shaka apppearances
What now retard? Still going to lose to Kuzuha's viewership btw and Kuzuha made it a nijisanji-only event to give back to the box instead of just being a leech.
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>>109065792
Yeah well I guess. I wanna see if at some point EN will follow the DEV_IS model and if it will actually work out.
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>>109065827
A month ago another girl got stalked by livers and management so it's clearly not solved.
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>>109065794
You losterered lol
Suck my cock and accept your social standing, fucktard.
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>>109062252
How does one lack the self-awareness to realize that by acting in this manner they are cutting every opportunity? You can be eccentric if you're a reasonable person when it counts. But in pic related he's basically screaming that working with him would be a displeasure.
>>109063114
If it's true then I'm actually amazed he got another chance with the Advent game, that he then proceeded to fuck up.
Adding to what >>109063933 said, if he was this passionate about the boooois he should've made a game so good it reached mainstream appeal. This would've promoted the homos in spite of their existence.
Jesus Christ you just know that he would support the pleasure cube and try to feed you alternative "meat" (vegan) without disclosing that fact.
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>>109065837
>Even Shaka ditched tin boy
Damn Niji keeps losing
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>>109065814
Do you know how watch hours is calculated? It’s very easy to calculate what she has excluding first army collabs. Do the math if you aren’t a tourist.
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>>109065850
You mean Cover paid him millions of yen to appear meanwhile he's actually friends with nijis.
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>>109065786
We are at the point of an extremely saturated market especially in JP. Being able to reach this level this fast as one of the newest members in a branch that was shat on so hard for a long time is actually amazing.
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>>109065443
link?
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>>109065837
Why lie?
https://www.nijisanji.jp/events/kzhcup_rumble_in_streetfighter6/
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>>109065860
You mean he ditched Kuzuha for the botan cock and left him with nijitrash?
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>>109065868
>exhibition match
Disingenuous
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>>109065853
Yeah I know. My argument is about downplaying her performance in general just because of Pekora.
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>>109065721
Go fuck yourself
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>>109065864
Do you guys think Hololive is releasing waves too early? I feel that after years of releases, at this point newhires are just cannibalizing the current fanbase for views. It doesn't feel like we are getting new people to watch vtubers anymore. It's just the same people resubbing to the newer girls
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>>109065792
Actually what we need is a gen of 5 Fuwawas
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Jesas
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>>109065879
>It doesn't count ok???
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>>109065904
It unironically doesn't since the main focus is on niji livers only. Meanwhile Botan could've made a holo-only tournament but won't because she wants to flirt with men.
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>>109065864
It’s proof of how strong JP is that if they want to make someone popular they can force it to happen with enough first army shilling. There’s a reason the top members are Vivi, Kanade, and Su. Kanade herself acknowledged it when she said she knew Subaru made her
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It's kinda crazy that the cull has been going on for so long and Cover hasn't been able to make Neal change his ways

Especially holoEN is culled an additional ~30% from what they used to get a year ago, which tracks if you compare vod views and likes
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>>109065910
>It doesn't
>What do you mean they still need to shove Shaka in to sell tickets because shitzuha has no audience and Niji is a flop
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My Friend is live and ready for me.
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>>109065903
>phaseboard
>poorboard
Kek
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>>109065839
we never had an actual idol unit for en. if they are able to scout some hard working asian girls and a talented white woman maybe it might work
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>>109065903
Thats why I disabled adblock /here/
>Im doing my part
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>>109065811
I wish the holo tcg went with this type of art direction instead of the haphazard mix of old commissioned merch illustrations they've been using
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>>109065928
Keep deflecting, this is going to be another sub-80k event lmao
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>>109065891
Depends on the hires I guess for JP. DEV_IS seems like to be kinda getting on the proper track. For EN I think it's way more difficult to gauge. Definitely needs more members but it's extremely hard to find the right ones. Also there's the matter of timezones when it comes to the EN audience. I still think that EU timezones have untapped potential but we won't really know if that's the case as long as we don't have more than one Holo that sticks to an EU schedule.
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>>109065921
the cull is a feature not a bug…
remember when Kiara polls were used as proof and YT’s response was to cull polls too?
they do it because of different RPM/CPM. they are more protective of NA-based views going to a JP channel
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>>109065953
You are the one deflecting mush brain. Shaka was in the event, niji exclusive my ass they still need a fleshie to sell tickets.
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>>109065866
https://x.com/DonieDarko3/status/2017032963381481950?s=20
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>>109065931
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>>109065958
>they are more protective of NA-based views going to a JP channel
But why??
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>>109065954
EU has been potentialman ever since Kiara debuted
The amount of begging and pandering they demand relative to their spend and viewership is ridiculous. The EU pandering on debut killed the growth of one EN gen already, isn’t that enough?
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>>109065970
Keep defending Cover spending money on homoshit
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>"SU" turns into "SEX"
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>>109065977
sigh, i wonder what it would take for botan to drop the homo shit
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Lmaoooo imagine paying 240000 to watch homos
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>>109065977
So you just gave up pretending it was a niji exclusive thing and that Kuzuha is capable of filling venues without Shaka? Good.
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>>109066016
At least he could fill up venues, no one's going to be paying for these prices just to watch homos >>109066013
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>>109065977
Why are you poor anon?
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>>109065958
>cull real viewer
>don't cull bot
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>>109065975
in adrev, a viewer from the US is worth 3 viewers from Japan
it’s unusual for foreign channels to have majority US viewership so they proactively cull viewers harder
YT is owned by Google. Google is an advertiser first platform. this isn’t Twitch where numbers are inflated to make streamers feel good
it’s YT where advertisers get the best bang for their buck
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>>109066013
not expensive at all.
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>>109066033
I am indian
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January watched time
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>>109066053
why?
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>>109065976
The thing is that you can't really tell with just a couple of girls. People like different things. It's like saying there's no EU potential and use ERB as an example. Also no one of the so called EU girls ever stuck to a proper EU schedule except early CC. The EU stream pool in Hololive is extremely small. What do you think would happen if someone like Biboo would stream during EU hours? Judging from the few times this happened because she lives in JP now we can see it obviously comes down to the talent. Especially the EU time slot that overlaps with NA being up has extreme potential.
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>>109066048
>double the price of Kuzuha's event for irl attendance
>4x the price of Kuzuha's event's streaming ticket
>no holos at all except homocollabers
>not expensive
No self-respecting holofan is going to buy these lmao
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>>109066053
What crime did you do from your past life to be reincarnated as an indian?
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>>109066066
I would rather watch my winning son and Astel more than Kuzuha and I'm not joking.
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>>109066066
I dont care since Im not in Japan anyway
No plan on attending though
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>>109066066
Well they are paying to watch Botan and Laplus, not subhuman trash like shitzuha
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>>109065652
It's a shame she'll be taking a step back in hours this year, but after last year she has nothing left to prove
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Botan is living proof that if you suck up to management and homos, even with mediocre numbers management will do all they can to fund your shitty homocollabing projects.

Meanwhile more popular holos like Kanata, Koyori, Ina and Kiara have to fight tooth and nail just to get anything approved.
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>>109066105
The rest you mentioned yeah but Kiara and Mori can get anything approved if they ask.
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>>109066105
It's more that she has already done three of these and has the numbers to justify it to management.
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>>109066060
Seeing as Biboo is stronger in NA prime time than in her default slot closer to EU hours, you killed your own argument by bringing her up
Look at a map of timezones and it should be obvious why EU hours will never be relevant in a hobby dominated by Japan and NA
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>>109066119
>all were sub-100k events and with reclining numbers year after year
What numbers?
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>>109066000
More relevant viewership women to play the stuff she actually gives a shit about.
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>>109066054
>the man from phase is in the top 25
grim
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>>109066105
homo shit are all funded by a different interest groups, they just borrow her name
the managements who do want to keep it all-girls have less money to throw around
or something like that
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>>109066136
Moggs the niji trash latest concerts and they keep funding that shit for some reason.
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>>109066119
>It's more that she has already done three of these
And I suppose she did those three without management backing?
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>>109066160
Are you just seething because she beat Kuzuha last year?
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>>109065685
why the fuck did you reply to my post?
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>>109066171
Maybe you should be more concerned that management continues to fund these homo programs while actual holos can't get their projects any support even with full outside sponsorship ready.
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>>109066126
I never said that the EU timeslot would outdo prime NA timeslot. My argument is that if EU had their own Biboos or more choices in general it would bring in new people in Hololive while NA hires have a way higher chance to cannibalize each other.
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>>109066171
I'm "seething" because these esports slop events featuring random jap ecelebs and nijiniggers that not a single holofan has any interest in keep getting support from Cover while we keep hearing about other girls wanting to put on much more holo like events and getting shot down by management
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>>109066191
Yup, sounds like a jelly sister. I'm sorry Botan is mogging your tin boy, but you should stop dropping the mask so easily, you all get so rabid when tin boy loses.
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I thought FWMC were unicorn friendly wtf was I lied to?
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>>109066202
I am sorry Kuzuha lost, deal with it because he's gonna just keep losing from now on.
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>>109066201
Why are you talking about this during SEA hours you're just gonna get a bunch of brown seethe
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>>109066204
She's mogging nothing and just hurting hololive by continuing to convince management to spend money on these events that no holofan supports. Cover's about to lose a ton of money, no one's going to buy 10000 tickets for Botan of all holos at those prices.
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>>109066224
She literally beat Kuzuha ass last year with the same kind of tournament, sisters were fuming because of how big her event was in comparison to shitzuha.
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>>109066224
What event is this? I don't follow Botan.
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>>109065652
>Miko 47k average ccv
>Pekora 38k average ccv
Kek know your place blue leech
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>Subaru and FBK are basically in solo gens
KEK
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>>109066236
And? How does hololive benefit, retard? How do holofans benefit?
>>109066247
Male eceleb flirting tournament, management let her do this FOUR times but won't give Kiara a single sololive.
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>>109066236
>She literally beat Kuzuha ass last year with the same kind of tournament
Great news for the Kuzuha audience but how does that help me as a hololive fan with no interest in esports fleshslop?
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>>109066256
Making nijitards cry for starters. From time to time, you need to remind niji subhumans that everything Holo does is gonna do better than what they do.
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>>109066256
the holos get more money, the viewers contant that they like and it's proven since more of them watched her over kuzuha
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>>109066266
Tribalist retard, meanwhile your precious idol company is throwing money to invite male ecelebs and homos to fuck your holos and you're cheering it on.
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Not following the convo, but I remember Nijitards cry last year because Botan destroyed their numbers, I guess they are afraid it's gonna happen again.
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>>109066252
>Lofi and ERB in the very bottom
GRIM HOMOCOLLABERS
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>>109066280
>viewers
Bots, do you think any self-respecting holofan actually watches Botan lmao.
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>>109066252
You can tell how biased the site by the way they always put pekora at the upper part and Miko who got more watch hours than marine and noel at the lower part
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>>109065954
>>109065976
We have 3-4 girls who stream on eu time: Shiori, erb, Kiara, and CC. How many more do you want?
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>>109066201
Ok I’ll stop beating around the brush because you don’t seem to realize what EU audience is actually competing with.
>NA primetime
NA + Asia viewers
>Asia primetime
Asia + EU viewers
>EU primetime
EU + NA viewers
With the way the timezones are distributed across the globe, each one has a solid core of viewers from another part of the world which is likely having lunch or easily can watch on weekends.
The largest audience for EN is NA followed by Asia.
Choosing to stream in EU hours means the largest demographic has an inconvenient time watching and the second largest has a very hard time watching.
EU has to be so big that it surpasses BOTH NA and JP to make them a viable option. That simply isn’t a reality.
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>>109066283
>tribalist
Nijitard spotted, get out with your troon vocab.
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>>109066297
damn all of them are trash outside of CC. Sucks to be EU.
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>Heimin already pointing out how unfair it is that Kanata got no support and had to do everything herself while Botan gets full management backup
Heh. Looks like the real holofans have spoken.
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>>109066201
>if EU had their own BIboos
They don't because EU people fundamentally arent same as Americans in terms of general sensibility or hard working.
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Did Botan get browncord riled up?
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>>109066320
Just gokischizo melting down, he's been having a rough time of it lately.
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>>109066312
>Heimin
>Holofan
Heimins need to follow their leader and off themselves, annoying retards who can only whine instead of supporting Kson.
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>>109066298
>EU + NA viewers
Sounds like the perfect audience for EN. Most of Asia is poor and the non poor ones have holoJP already streaming at JP prime time.
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>>109066294
>bots cope when comparing to botzuha the king of bots
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>>109066294
>bots
My man you are defending 100 likes 10k CCV kuzuha.
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>>109066360
yes but on life support
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>>109066360
at this rate, definitely no.
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BACK TO BACK 100K NIJI GOLD DORERYAAAAAAA
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Differences between Kuzuha's event and Botan's event:

Kuzuha Cup
>full nijisanji-only participation with outside coaches
>exhibition match between the best nijisanji players and the most popular external streamers
>10,000 yen venue ticket
>6000 yen streaming ticket
>free part available on Youtube as a teaser for the paid streaming parts
>6000-seater most prestigious Yokohama hall

Botan Cup
>male eceleb and homo participation
>no holos involved
>24,000 to 240,000 yen venue ticket
>no streaming tickets, you're forced to watch it for free on Youtube with its terrible compression if you want to watch it online
>5000-seater second string Yokohama hall
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>>109066360
hololive only grow stronger
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>>109066339
Tell that to FWMC selling out instantly because they are popular with JP
Asia isn’t only SEA. SEA is effectively irrelevant compared to how strong the second tier Asian demographics are, KR, TW, HK (fuck you china).
For them, JP isn’t better than EN. Asians HATE other Asian races, they’d rather learn English than learn Japanese.
This mindset that EU being better than the shittiest part of Asia is a W worth bragging about is exactly why you can’t compete. You can’t just be better than SEA. You need to be better than US, CA, and all of east Asia combined to justify EU hours.
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>>109066339
But most holofans are half asian americans no? Or atleast it seems that way to me everytime I look at the crowd at events or concerts. They do buy a lot of stuff
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>>109066374
>>full nijisanji-only participation
Already wrong since Shaka was there
>but
Still there because they know Niji alone can't sell
>lower ticket prince
proof there's no demand for Niji in contrast to Holo, you are basically admitting Botan has a higher prestige than Kuzuha hence they ticket costing more.
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>>109066388
No matter the deflection, it's clear that even though nijiniggers are scum they organized an event meant for nijifans, while Cover decided to waste money on something holofans don't want to watch.
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>>109066339
most of EU is poor too but asia is easier to expand to for an asian company
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>>109066296
That's how grouped tree map works anon. if Gen0 has more combined watch hour than Gen3 they'll put them at the top left.
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>>109066373
Didnt know it would be an AR Live pretty interesting
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>>109066374
I'm just inclined to believe that niji/kuzu paid out their own pockets for their thing while botan is near 100% paid by other parties while giving her a commission to use her name for it.
Cover isn't retarded enough to fund this.
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>>109065903
>No FBI/CIA/Mossad
But an unironic Phasefag, which is worse
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>>109066394
>for nijifans
Shaka was there, keep ignoring that part retard. Nijifans don't exist they need to leech off Shaka to survive.
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>>109066410
She literally said management okayed her to do it.
>>109066415
Nijifans like Shaka. Holofans don't. This is not an event where holofans benefit.
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>>109066385
FWMC get a lot out of the JP fanbase because they split their content between EN and JP and stream at JP prime time often (half of their birthday celebration was in Japanese at JP hours for example). Many of the other girls who stream at the "superior" PST hours struggle to sell out merch or have even failed to sell out recently. So how does this justify sticking to PST slots exclusively for the majority of EN girls who are not gonna go FWMC tier JP pandering?
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>>109066422
>Nijifans like shaka
Shaka fans show up for Shaka, Nijifans don't exist. Also you are conceding again Botan has more prestige than Kuzuha, not a good look.
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>>109066422
Okayed her doesn't mean they paid for it. Okayed her to use her name on an event that desperately wants a popular holo's name attached to it.
Barely any holos in it, remember?
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>>109066105
if you want homos favoritism to end you just need to leak the realtionship between vesper and fauna to the jp community.
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>>109066431
if you think EU viewers will buy more merch than PST viewers you're delusional
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>>109066451
He can't accept Esports sponsors are ditching Niji for Botan.
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>>109066360
Hololive can survive
/vt/ is probably cooked unless we get a massive infusion of new blood
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>Fuwawa sold out in 4 min
>Mococo sold out in 2 min
Fuck, these girls are strong
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>>109066461
I thought you said EU hours targeted both EU and NA? By that logic the "competition" is between EU and Asia, not EU and NA. NA is always included.
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>>109066451
She literally came up with the event and has been changing or adding new sponsors every year to continue funding it, why are you pretending Botan isn't responsible for pushing this disgusting esports slop under the hololive name?
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>>109066054
>we're living in a peanut world now
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>>109066431
CC has trouble selling out and she’s the top EU holo. Nerissa had more stock and barely didn’t make it to selling out, and she’s one of the weakest ENs in the branch
You might not want to bring up merch anymore
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>Niji gold
>Niji silver
>Pekora's terraria flop
Grim
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>>109066494
ya and moving away from primetime NA will always be a worse option, just look at gigi compared to the rest of justice
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>>109066496
Y-you are proving him right bro.
>she gets more sponsors each year compared to Niji, who gets diminishing returns and has to self-fund
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Niji is saving numbers from peanut gold today
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>>109066514
Why? Eubros are broke or something?
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>>109066398
Not true . Miko got more watch hours than pekora last year, infact more than the entire gen 3 and yet the biased site still put Miko at the bottom
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>>109066524
>Kuzuha has no sponsors
Wrong.
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>>109066514
Bae does PST time and her merch also flopped recently, all I'm saying is that the idea that streaming at PST hours makes you more successful due to Asian fans doesn't actually seem to reflect reality.
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>>109066540
>I can't read
SEAsanji? Saarsanji? From what shithole are you from?
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>>109066514
>CC has trouble selling out
>lying in the numbers thread
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just saying the biggest EN merch sale ever was selling merch of 1 Myth, 1 Promise, and 1 Advent. and they were the three most NA popular members of each gen
pretty obvious why Justice wasn’t there…
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can hololive even do this?
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>>109066564
Niji 3D is so fucking trash.
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>>109066574
Holo and Niji use the same tech...
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https://www.youtube.com/shorts/fRQCPaRvEXg
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>>109066564
Damn the bitrate suck, maybe they should hire holo studio for this.
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>>109066564
Hololive certainly won't be able to do this because no holofans are going to pay for a crappy male eceleb tourney. Meanwhile 5000+ female nijifans turned out in full force because it was exactly the sort of event that they love.
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Are the Raspberry awards still a thing? I miss those from back in the day. I wonder if any Niji managed to reach the legendary 2 view count
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>>109066559
EN management spent two years debuting homos instead of girls, are we sure they know what they're doing?
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>>109066564
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5Qw-vQ-fUw
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>>109066591
Yet Niji3D looks like trash, I wonder what the fuck they're doing wrong.
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What kind of 3D tech is this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FoERJLPhtw
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>>109066558
Maybe trouble is exaggerating but she took almost 1 week. Say compare it to Gigi's several hours. Raora also had trouble but that one is pre-Doom and surgery. Not sure how ERB will fare but we'll see.
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>>109066595
>only 5000
>HoloEN gets higher attendance
>Botan is going to destroy this
oof
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>>109066547
>merch flopped
she had a shit ton of stock released on a random stream and with other comparable merch numbers she's near the top
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another day of marine not streaming her POV, so pehora can leech all of marine's numbers again lmao
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>>109066621
Botan's hall is smaller and you're delusional if you think holofans are going to pay to watch homos on stage.
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>>109066603
>avoiding EU is so obvious even Omega figured it out
kek
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>>109066595
Most of the participants in KZHcup are vtubers from Nijisanji
There's 0 Holo in this edition of Botan cup so far
She and Cover are unironically trying to profit from fanbase of random streamers with this one
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>>109066630
Same venue capacity, actually.
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>>109066618
>Raora also had trouble
did she even sell out
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>>109066618
so faster than Nerissa, Bae, Biboo
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Laplus is literally raping the AI
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>>109066637
Bro Niji had Shaka, nijifans don't exist, it's all borrowed from e-celebs.
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>>109066638
And no one's going to pay to watch this. Literally an event not for holofans.
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>>109065693
Kiara is a gaijin menhera who won't play ball
Botan has invited holostars and collabed with them
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>>109066637
Scummy behaviour trying to leech off the popularity of Shaka because they know this event isn't popular with holofans.
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>>109066634
>debuting more boys is so obvious even Omega figured it out
kek
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>>109066595
hololive management is out of touch with what holofans actually want. Which is why we still don't have a new gen yet
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>>109066618
wasn’t CC’s anniversary merch a full month sale?
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>>109066252
Advent together strong
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>>109066677
Shaka invited himself in after Kuzu flop last year, esports fans in general are throwing Kuzuha under the bus due to his lower numbers.
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you know, the turnaround from
>Mori is gonna get graduated for leaking shit to indieshitters and TT
to what reality turned out to be is really fucking funny
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>>109066642
all 3 had more stock
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EU is a decent market, just gotta get consistent girls to actually stream to it who aren't Kiara
I just don't care for Kiara sorry, I'd rather stay up late at night and watch other ENs
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>>109066595
>Cover bootlickers actually think this is comparable to Kuzuha's event venue and that it'll even sell out
:^)
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NGL this AR is impressive
https://x.com/Else_PJblue/status/2017805306827571365
https://x.com/Else_PJblue/status/2017805306827571365
https://x.com/Else_PJblue/status/2017805306827571365
Hope we have this this Fest
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>>109066713
>Kiaraseethe out of nowhere
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>>109066713
nta but from what we've seen, nearly all the best, most consistent, most dedicated, and most popular vtubers ever are mostly from NA and Asia, not EU
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>>109066726
>think
Same number of seats.
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>>109066713
kiaraschizo why do you care about EU you're from india
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Niji Gold AND Silver! And I mean actual Gold as in they actually beat the Peanut for real #1!
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>>109066740
to be fair, the best NA Holos all have Asian blood
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>>109066733
cover tech is not capable of that
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>>109066769
Give it to me straight, is peanut botted?
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>>109066769
>Fuwamoco more likes than both streams
Nijibots are never beating the allegations
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>>109066786
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>>109066787
>isreal
oh KEK!
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>>109066786
fucking love peanut butter
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>>109066738
I'm not seething nor am I Kiaraschizo, I'm just saying I don't care about her and basing the interest of all of EU in holos on just one girl is silly
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>>109066733
Every sololive and fes already has that since 4-5 years ago anon.
This one clip is just rendered with higher fidelity and resolution for a few seconds.
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>>109066769
/#/ is saved from the clutches of peanut GOD
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>>109066786
His like and view count stays the same when his ccv was 50k and 130k. He's definitely botted but he's probably doing around 30k-40k.
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>>109066621
>holodrones being proud of a 5k capacity venue
VSPO is doing their esports events at 15k Ariake Arena btw
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>>109066786
He seems botted but his bots (if he is) should be of high quality since his VOD views are pretty high, too
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>>109066769
Only 100K? Thats GRIM Nijibros
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>>109066815
>deflecting
Soo Kuzuha having a shitty 5k venue and losing all his sponsors to Botan is totally normal.
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>>109066564
No big idol would've bother gracing Hololive with their presence, so no
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>>109066831
Botan is a permanent stain on Cover's record for trying to hire an esports holo only for her to be shit at games and less popular than VSPO.
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>>109066848
Flesh sacks seethe that the biggest idol in the world is from holo so it's normal.
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Honest question while you guys are shitposting: does Hololive have an annual anniversary event? This isn't the same as (Niji / Holo) Fes, right?
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>>109066859
Kuzuha is less popular than Botan and Vspo, and he's the most popular niji so that means Niji is below phase connect in mindshare. This is what you are saying btw, gokisei>>>>Nijisanji. Thank you for playing.
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>>109066776
Mori has no asian blood in her
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>>109066796
reality is that kiara debuted during myth mania, regardless of your taste she had the largest amount of EU audience that will ever be seen
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Why did Cover hire a Nijisanji Kanae fan as their head of marketing?
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>>109066876
>to be fair, the best NA Holos all have Asian blood
>Mori has no asian blood in her
So it's true
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>>109066864
When did any Holo get to perform at Kohaku?
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>>109066876
He specifically said the best NA holos. Mori is great but doesn't belong to the best.
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>>109066888
>posts contradiction
>says it's true
where in SEA did you study logic
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>>109066891
Miko and Sui alone mogg any flesh shitter from a soon dead hobby, Niko and Vivi ditched real idols for vtubing because Holo took over the hobby years ago. The only reason they play ball with niji females is that they are subhumans below their level.
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>>109066888
>>109066907
mori is literally the most popular EN and probably top 5 in the entire company
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>>109066914
You are in /#/. Prove it with numbers.
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>>109066907
she's by all intents and purposes one of the best if you disregard personal taste
high stream output, high content variety, consistent music output, regular and high volume membership content, collab and project organizer and regularly helps/assists other girls on top of all
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>>109066514
Its all apples and oranges at this point, and seems more indicative of people who just want to shit on a certain talent or the company for anyone "not selling out" on preordered goods, meaning things projected but not materially available, especially when these girls knock promotions and advertisements out the park on the whole. People who take home thousands upon thousands from multiple sources aren't anywhere close to losing.

If we look at it with cold logic, nobody in EN is unmarketeable from a financial standpoint, and from an entertainment standpoint, make the grade, as a person who used to do competitive showchoir when I was young. Any person trying to seriously call them flops don't know actual flops or runts. They're amatuerish Friday Night armchair quarterbacks. Or worse, falseflaggers pretending to be fans and like I said, just waiting to snipe the talent they personally dislike.
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>>109066913
Come back when they get invited to Kohaku or winning Japan's Record Awards first
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>>109066914
they picked Ina over her for an American Baseball collab. that should have been Mori’s home turf. fucking IRyS got in over her too
Mori gets music views from the algorithm but Holo fans have other preferences
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I know this is never going to happen, but what I'd love to see is a company-wide private Foxhole server collab on a small map.
The game is incidentally the perfect format for large corpos.

Obviously it's impossible, but I love fantasizing about it.
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>>109066961
>equivalent of DEI awards
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>>109066980
Buy an ad
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>trying to say everything's alright just because the girls are making money
>meanwhile actual fans have noticed how stressed and tired all the girls are, like they no longer enjoy anything and the collabs are all soulless
https://x.com/Lemoron2/status/2017812543952032244
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>>109066859
Cover doesn't hire based on gaming skills, even their "gamers" gen are all mid at games except Mario Kart. They have no interest in esports or doing anything outside of "idol" work.
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>>109066982
>Most prestigious music awards that can't even be won by mere sales
>DEI awards
?
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>>109066937
>>109066979
top 10 in subs
top 5 in total views
myth debut
invited to a ton of concerts
largest solo vtuber concert in the west
worked with a bunch of anime
sponsored like crazy
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>>109067015
Yeah, Miko is known in all of Japan her shit sells, while these whores have to suck off fat producers for DEI awards and other fake metrics of popularity.
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>>109066979
They are saving Mori for next year for Dodgers' 3 peat
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>subs
>total views
we still get tourists?
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>>109066914
>>109057121
>>109057473
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>>109067000
>retarded-heimins or retarded-heimins-adjacent
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There are vtubers with 3 million subs who have the same ccv as someone with 100k subs
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>>109067000
Why are you posting your twitter alt /here/?
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>>109067056
Heimin are the heart of the holofans unicorn idol faction, if you lose them hololive has lost its soul
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>>109067036
When was the last time Miko sold millions discs for any project?
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>>109067038
ik it’s a joke but replying seriously
when you don’t know if you will even have a third year you don’t save. using baseball itself as an example, your best batter bats first to get as many at bats as possible. putting him fourth to potentially win big is a fun but outdated strategy. no one is putting their best hitter in fourth anymore
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>>109067085
Heimins are, not retarded-heimins. Heimins have split into two factions since Kanata's graduation.
A normal heimin would act like this nowadays
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>>109067086
Sold more in the last 5 years than any of these washed up whores, idols died after 2020 and have to suck off to cucksanji because Holo took their audience.
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>>109067049
>replying with the nijiniggers shitposts
kys retard mori is 10x more popular than kuzuha and any organ
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>>109067000
>>trying to say everything's alright just because the girls are making money
and that's not even totally accurate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNbPJAs0zaQ&list=LL&index=122
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23i8hwMlApo
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>>109067111
Well, Niji anniversary is getting 130K+ now. What did Holo get? Did they even dare to do an anniversary stream?
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What if Youtube were to introduce automatic removal of deadsubs?
As in, if you didn't engage with the content of a channel on YT in the last 6 months you automatically get unsubbed from it
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>>109067085
Heimins are subhumans who are making Kson rot in 3 view hell despite posting tweets of support. They are trannies not watching the trannies series that pander to them.
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>>109066212
Yeah
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>>109067000
meanwhile actual heimins still like other holos
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>>109067124
Miko alone had 200k with gomoku.
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>>109067049
Go fuck yourself schizo
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>>109067120
If I had to guess, most Nijis work part-time because they just don't make enough money.
Being a corpo streamer is both a buff and a debuff for your finances, especially when you're encouraged to keep spending to boost your idol career.
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>>109067126
my favorite 2hu pianist from 15 years ago will be back any day now I’m sure of it
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>>109067120
In retrospect, this was Kanata coping about becoming a poorfag because she got the boot. She was seething that her friends kept being rich while she was being forced on the streets.
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>>109067138
Liking other holos doesn't mean they don't also notice that holos are unhappy and tired more often than not nowadays and it's showing in the stream quality.
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>>109067180
Silence shitmin go watch Kson the whore, you are out of the garden.
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>>109067180
sorry bro I said actual heimins not nijizhangs
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>>109067172
No it actually reveals one of the reasons she bailed. Not enough pay for the amount of work she put in, especially for her who has to pay for medical stuff more regularly than other Holos.
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>>109067126
No social media will ever do anything to reduce the perception of participation
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>>109066360
Yes, unless Cover is hidding financial problems.
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>>109067198
Sounds like cope, she gave up earning billions because she was too retarded to know when to stop pushing and is now coping about losing the best paying job she could get.
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>>109066945
I'm taking note how no one is even trying to debate this, instead delving into retarded arguments like the Dodgers appearances, as if it's more meaningful from a quality standpoint
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>>109067180
this thread is filled to the brim with shitflinging bootlickers who will interpret any criticism as a personal attack against their identity
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>>109067209
Kinda checks out
>I wasn't earning even that much (T-T/)
It's a normal coping mechanism for someone who noticed she threw away a good job for no reason.
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>>109067207
considering their finances are public, that'd be pretty hard to do
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Niji global gold, fwmc could never
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new doki menhera attack dropped
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>>109067199
Enter Youtube massively culling CCV of especially EN vtubers and thus making it look like less people watch them live than is true
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>>109067240
Yes, but there are ways to manipulate information.
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>>109067209
>Billions
you gotta be trolling
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>>109067258
Coping indiecuck
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>>109067221
Eh you can debate all of those statements. How much is it true, how important is it
But when it comes down to money, Cover is a publicly traded corporation. They have an obligation to make legitimate business decisions. Cover picked three girls whom they believed would make the most money and bring the most consumer confidence in their brand.
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>>109067250
they're not culling vtubers it's just that all the big flesh streamers are botted like crazy
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>>109067209
Can't wait to buy her stupid body at a whorehouse in Japan. I've got a trip planned.
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They stood up to corpo tyranny, became free men, made their own path, chose their own fates, and it has paid off!
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I've always wondered how much money the average holo makes per year? Do we have any clue about that?
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>>109067298
so true finally free
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>>109067298
>Saba performing for 70 drunk niggers
W-worth it
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>>109067300
does the “average holo” include ID and DEV_IS?
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>>109067300
get their yearly SCs, check their yearly average social blade number, add up all their merch profits, then cut it by 50% as they only keep around that much.
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>>109067300
Cover discloses that in aggregate in their financial report but there is no such thing as “the average holo” because there is a big disparity between the bottom of the company (the homos, then way above them the ID girls) and the rest.
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>>109067300
All they do is play video games and practice singing and dancing for a living. They could be earning 30k a year, I dont get ever willingly leaving a job like that.
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I'm so glad my oshi is finally out of hololive, no more great concerts, events, collabs with other cool holos.

Now I get even less streams than before and collabs with actual whores and terrible girls from the sloppy sister clique or Twitch vtubing circles, hooray!
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>>109067325
>SCs is not half
>social blade doesnt show all the ad streams/sponsors/members and is still just a guess
>theres not even close to half of all their merch sales available to the public
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>>109067357
SC is half, Youtube takes 30% of SCs then Cover I assume takes about 20% which leaves the talent with 50% of the SCs
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>>109067377
>I assume
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>>109066374
>6000-seater most prestigious Yokohama hall
Why lie?
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>>109066769
Peanut bronze
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>>109065811
Nice that Yui is doing the ending song for that farming anime again
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>>109066769
japan celebrates thanksgiving?
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>>109067391
Damn that looks so much classier than >>109066726
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>>109067274
you can't really debate most of them though? the stream output/regularity, the membership output, music output, collabs attended and organized are all hard numbers and much more relevant to a fan experience than sponsorship events you don't even know who was available for when the offer was made?
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>>109066595
Even 3rd gen concert is a flop compared to this
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qrd?
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>>109067377
I really don't know why clueless people feel the need to say anything.
Cover takes half of the remainder after YT, meaning girls get 35% of the total amount. Same with membership.
They get a good amount of their personally designed merch (think bday merch, anniversary merch, other merch that is on them) and very little from holo-wide cover-organized merch such as keychains made for all girls f or some concert or pins or w/e like that.
They also get decent money from sponsorships and a little bit of ad money as well.

We don't know how much the average holo makes with all of that combined but it's very good and smart holos can buy entire houses off of it no problem.
A good holo who doesn't overspend can do her thing for a few years and leave as a comfortable millionaire.
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>>109067386
They either take 20% or 30%. And judging by the complains of "not getting paid enough" I think Cover is taking 30%
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>>109067441
The complaints are Kanata the subhuman and Towa just saying we don't make that much.
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>>109067427
Got scammed by Mint and crashed out
She was a guest at her LMAO150PEOPLE event but got kicked out last minute
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>>109067300
~34 million dollars in remuneration per year.
A little under 100 talents.
So around $340k on average, but that includes everyone from the absolute lowest homos to Miko.
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>>109067441
>I think
Meanwhile we KNOW Niji gives 2%
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>>109067450
based the indie avengers is about efficiency and the shitters will get kicked just like the aston and hyung girl from virtual vacation
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>>109067481
Can we please get rid of Phoebe next?
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I'd just like to remind everyone that this cunt always pretends his numbers are real
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>>109067470
phasebeghing aside, this fit/look really matches Shiori
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>>109067481
Mint saw her opportunity to land a big leech and went for it with Saba. She really is ruthless.
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>>109067494
top 25 vtuber in the world for Jan >>109066054 he won
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>>109067431
A smart Holo can find some cheap ass houses in Japan as many people have, not all that hard.
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>>109066886
I really don't know.
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>>109067530
Those aren't exactly good examples of average houses, but yes a smart holo could buy a proper nice house in the Tokyo area too after some time
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>>109067544
>he thinks buying a house in the most expensive region in the world is doable for your average holo
Lol
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>>109066886
The same reason they licked Gunrun's shithole
Fagoo the retard is incapable of understanding the industry is full of sociopaths who want nothing but Total Hololive Death so he keeps asskissing them and promoting them for free and hiring their literal SPIES
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>>109067555
>the most expensive region in the world
???
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>>109067517
Pretending you are popular is not winning. No one knows who this is.
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>>109067126
YT has already been removing subs frequently, though (i.e: IRyS said in her 2nd year how YT were removing hundreds of subs from her channels everyday). How much further do we want them to go?
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>>109067481
Shouldn’t Ashton and Hyuni be an example of doing it right? They got in, did their contracted concert with VV, and then went their own way without trying to continuously leech off Nimi or Dooby. It’s not like they had a huge part in getting Nimi or Dooby and were obviously out of their league but they didn’t overstep as far as I can tell.
It’s different from this mint concert where she is the main focus and much much smaller than her guests who she only brings along for more numbers.
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>>109066733
Nice to see Else still going. Would like her and AZKi to collab with Hach again
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>>109067568
a lot more people know vstats over /#/
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>>109067271
Kanata said it varies from one member to another, but she herself doesn't make million ($) because she spent most of her income on projects
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>>109067588
Vstats is also very irrelevant and thinks twitter impressions are real.
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>>109067574
>only brings along for more numbers
brother every Holo who brings along Miko, Marine, Peko into their shows does it just to bring in more numbers, it's called playing the game.
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>>109066886
>>109067533
still working so hard to spam this dumb rrat
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>>109067574
sure doesn't mean they still didn't get dropped for the bigger ones
didn't one of them go full flesh whore today because they got abandoned?
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>>109067517
Holy shit, I never cared about Phase numbers until you pointed out, but going by >>109066054, he got engined to the ass and only averaged 2.4K CCV? How grim was that?
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>>109067555
Definitely is. Just calculate how much they make from SCs and Memberships per month and that's already an impressive sum. And that's without us knowing exactly how much they make on their merch, but that adds a LOT. On top of sponsorship money and bits here and there.

For example, Koyori made about 18k USD in January in SCs (actually a bit more due to member streams not counting).
35% of that is 6.3k

Even at a very conservative assumption of her having only 5k members and those not all paying in good currencies... let's say she only gets 3 dollars per member instead of 5. 35% of that is about a dollar. So she's already at 6.3k + 5k = 11.3k per month and that's solely from SCs with a very conservative member count.

Without ad money. Without sponsor money. Without merch money especially.
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>>109067603
You can make that argument sure and I would definitely agree with you, but my thoughts are that Holo girls are inherently equals in such a case, even if one is much larger numbers-wise, so bringing them in isn’t as much of an offense as it is with indies.
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>>109067605
It's proven that he is Cover's head of marketing.
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OUR husband
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>>109067660
>rrat can't even convince leddit
>proven
Pfft
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>>109067613
She flesh posted because of the opposite though, she hit donothon goals she didn’t think were possible and put it as a stretch goal, and her audience enjoyed her content so much they gave her a lot of money which she claims she will reinvest back into her content fully.
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>>109067450
mint reputation is going to be elira tier level in a year.
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>>109067667
Leddit sucks Cover's cock of course they wouldn't believe Cover's upper management is full of antis who hate hololive and want it to fail.
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>>109067613
average western "vtuber"
Why do they ALWAYS fleshpost in the end?

https://x.com/furraridriver/status/2017718546315305191
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>>109065903
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>>109067656
Well they're not equal at all, those with more views get more ad revenue, and if you want to increase your ad revenue, you invite those big Holos to be in your stream or 3D show or what ever so you get more ad revenue out of them.
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>>109067712
It's not Mint's fault. Saba doesn't want to be in the same group with anyone who still works for or with Cover or Hololive. Miori had a choice to sign the contract not to work for Hololive for a year, it was up to her
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>>109067746
what is she doing for hololive?
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>>109067740
>they go through gore and epstein albums for free
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>>109066886
That Fat bastard is just mad that Miko is leaving and will probably cause him to have another pay cut due to budget few months after Miko leaves. So he's trying to smear her as much as possible on her way out so she has a "weak" debut as indie, but it won't work 35P will follow Miko to the ends of the earth forever!
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>>109067015
Again, if someone uses DEI or affirmative action these days, its all shitposting against women and minorities when the full breadth of it incorporates people their hillbilly cousins who'd call themselves Nordic warrior or someshit, veterans, and the disabled. But it, like foodstamps and welfare, is an uncomfortable conversation to have when you get the hard data and they're found wanting. Its why any minority who helps parrot that shit is a fool, but I'll stop my preaching there. Needless to say, the ones who bark about that the loudest, end up being ones with either no credentials to back it up, or they've got a chip on their shoulder from the handouts they needed to come up.
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>109067873
tranny
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The board might have declined, but this thread is reaching schizo level never seen before
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say what you will but t-girl cock > man cock, tell me I'm wrong.
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>>109067450
This possibly cant be true right? Because this is kind of fucked up
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>>109064073
>+0
???
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>>109066886
>>109067533
>>109067558
do you dumb niggers still don't get it?
that is the hiring pool, the people who made black ass companies like .upd8 or AnyColor who then move to new employment, either after company dying or their prospects within the company dying
Hololive is picking up C-suite people from companies that became bigger earlier, like in every industry, because it's one of the few spots that almost never hires newbies of any kind, just an endless recycling of old rich fucks cause what's important to C-suite more than anything else is their personal connections
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>>109067932
It made me look and I couldn’t find anything supporting what he said, so it’s probably a lie.
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>>109067467
And how much goes to the hundreds of staff members that works at Cover?
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>>109067932
there's nothing about it in the archives so it sounds like some Mintschizo made up shit
it's way more likely that it's some parental meddling preventing her from going in Miori's case
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>>109067932
Her home probably got wrecked by the winter storms and now she has to spend weeks fixing her place.
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>>109067967
probably 20-30 million a year
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I think people are mixing up Mios, maybe. Another vtuber from tingles called Mio had a meltdown over missing some concert in Korea.
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>>109067949
It's like when wcw hired Vince Russo (veteran from wwf) in 1999 to help them out, but it just ended up killing them faster.
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*sends this thread into a nearly eight hour frothing from the mouth rage*
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>>109068067
QRD? I saw the post get a lot of replies while half-asleep, but didn't bother reading.
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Grimmi bros, we gotta get Grimmi to do another tarot reading, like a "start of 2026" taro reading for the vtuber industry heading into 2026.
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>>109068090
Not much other than Grimmi saying Saba messaged her in a DM on stream.
Some people aren't happy cause we traded collabs with holos for collabs with shitters like her, Nimi, Mint, Lime and others. Just feels like a big downgrade.
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>>109068090
Grimmi said on her stream that she talked with Saba over DMs. And now people are speculating that they will collab soon, and of course some kekkers lost their mind over this news.
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>>109067941
What's there to "???" about?
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>>109068067
I need her to make me grasty
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Reminder that Grimmi got passed around the whole cult so if you think her holes weren't penetrated by miles of cock you are delusional.
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>even grimmi has schizos
lord give me patience
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>>109068109
>Some people aren't happy cause we traded collabs with holos for collabs with shitters like her, Nimi, Mint, Lime and others
You meant Holofags weren't happy because it indirectly confirmed that what she said about Hololive wasn't without basis (otherwise Saba wouldn't have kept in touch with her)
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>>109068109
>>109068113
Nothing special then, I was wondering if it fueled the Vshojo-poaching rrat further.
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>>109068109
>>109068113
Thats it? I dunno why Im supposed to care as a Holo fan, then again I guess most normal people left this board and the thread is filled with liggers/phase shitters, whatever.
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>>109068129
That's fine. That one shrine maiden girl from mirai nikki was allows the hottest.
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>>109068109
>>109068113
also the potential of Gura being the leaker/doomsayer that fed Grimmi info about terrible shit happening at Cover

>>109068129
she made a public relationship declaration, you're not really breaking any news here man
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>>109068129
I dont care as long as she penetrates my throat with a mile of runny love
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>watches Gunrun slander his company
>does nothing
>watches Gunrun sell snake-oil to his highest-earning EN talents
>does nothing
>highest-earning EN talents leave
>does nothing
>
>does nothing
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>>109068146
why would holofags care about anything a 1k shitter says
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>>109066641
Raora couldn't sell out her merch AFTER she went heavy on pandering to NA hours. She streamed almost exclusively during PST primetime during that period.
Her subs, SCs and merch sales suffered greatly because of that decision but she seems to be doing much better now that she is back to her usual hours.
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>>109067949
can you post actual proof?
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>>109068154
>Grimmi
>terrible shit
oh yeah gream me
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>>109068146
Lol Saba is also in touch with Nimi who's literally and unironically married to Randon. I wouldn't put too much weight on her judgment of who she engages with.
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>>109068167
Because she's telling the truth about how black Cover is and probably got her info from Saba.
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>>109068165
>dooby was never poached
>shachi is still having an autism attack pretending not to want to be a vtuber even though she obviously does and is just lazy
>nimi - LOL good fucking riddance you cancerous bitch
Even though Gunrun keked this naive fucking retard, Saba is really the only actual loss if she indeed got poached. And even Saba wasn't really a loss considering she didn't even stream, it was more of a purely financial hit than actually losing a vtuber.
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>>109068170
raora suffered becouse she barely streamed for 3-4 months and chattini day happened at the worst time, out of nowhere with high tariff.
If i remember correctly she almost sold out with less then 100 item leftovers.
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>>109068196
I wish anon, the RakiLuliToffee trio would be a great to have but I don't see it happening. Shame, they're all holo fans as is already and would fit in well.
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>>109068167
Because it's now a 1K "shitter" that Saba wants to befriend. Can't be a bad person
>>109068200
Nothing wrong with that. She didn't lie
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>>109068216
>forgetting the context that they were poachable in the first place because Cover was a terrible place to work for
Grimmi didn't quit Justice for no reason
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>>109068224
Saba is not a good person, much less who she wants to befriend.
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>>109068109
what if it was a like a 2 girls1cup type collab
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>>109068224
>She didn't lie
irys, kronii and bae disagree.
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>>109068232
>Grimmi didn't quit Niji for no reason
ftfy

>>109068242
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HuDT2IDSH4
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>>109068220
>RakiLuliToffee
>throw in either essie or mwocha as the fourth
It would be so good
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>>109068232
Grimmi saw the pay holo offered her and said "GRIM" and left.
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>>109068224
shes actually more of a 2 feet shitter
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>>109068170
>>109068218
I don't know how it was for most of her fanbase but I was barely watching her when she started streaming during NA hours. Not because I didn't want to but couldn't anymore. I watch vods extremely rarely, so I mostly went back to JP streams because of timezones.
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not gonna lie, /#/ becoming a place of Fauna worship only for her to quit because she needed a bigger cut to buy her Holostar husband a home is the kind of story arc I would struggle to fucking make up for the purpose of bait
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>>109068213
>saba info
saba lies to her own audience and treats them like atms she's not exactly credible
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>>109068312
That's how we know we were always the villains of vtubing, that's the type of outcome that only happens to the bad guys
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>>109068312
Sometimes the craziest shit ends up being true. It being Vesper of all people and that explaining why Kronii started hating her just adds to it all.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4__3dh2J0eg
>Irys guerilla utawaku in 30 minutes
That reminds me, now that we know much more about what happened.
Was there a special meaning when IRyS did a guerilla singing frame the day dumb and dumber got terminated?
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>>109068331
For cuck like you maybe, i just watch phase even if they have a bf.
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Are burgers awake yet? What do you need to register for voting? Do you need to confirm your address and identity somehow or is it possible that some troll doxxed Randon and registered with his name and Nimi's address?
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^ final cope hours
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>>109068278
the change to NA hours during summer might be related to the recording + throat becouse the vocal cords are more relaxed in the morning.
She streamed much less becouse her throat couldn't bear afo + 3d + streaming.
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>>109068361
It has been too long so I can't recall, but it's IRyS, if there was, she likely didn't mention or hint at it.
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>>109068361
>does a guerrilla karaoke when dumb and dumber got fired
>does a guerrilla karaoke when Fauna's relationship with dumb is exposed
Ruthless
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>half the thread is gokinigger having a melty and sucking off botzuha
kek nijitroon sub-human
mus hurt that the full might of niji for their 8th anniversary is getting mid numbers lol
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I can't believe Korone met up with Sana during her break, that has to be the #1 surprise
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>>109068232
>>109068269
nobody cares about your busted ligwhore kek
she's a pathological lying attention whore
unless you're retarded enough to believe shit like "my bf was a human traficker"
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>>109068505
Why not? Femoids are retarded
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>>109068480
nice fanfic
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>>109068505
>>109068480
lil bro woke up and has a melty
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>>109068532
if they are this retarded what does this says about the retards believing the lies kek
>>109068534
shit harder gokinigger
>>109068544
yeah this is my thread macaco favela nigger, deal with it
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>>109067110
This and I'm actually peaceful faction until some idiot raided Heimin last thread and want Heimin to fight Miko.
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>lil bro
I swear, all liggers are mulatto or spic teens.
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>>109068377
Not American but even if that was possible, how would he have doxxed Randon before that?
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>>109067188
>>109067190
When and how 4ch of all people become bootlickers?
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>What beggars think holos are like when they ship them with their faggot faliures
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>>109068572
Every vtuber gets doxxed
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>>109068099
There isn't really a need, its blantantly obvious what will go on based on what we've seen so far. Indies and indie adjacent companies will mald about Hololive, try to make every calculation under the sun to utilize while also undermine it, get booty blasted as more of their ventures and the smaller copros that spring up trying to follow them tank because they want to be indie in mindset with all that entails but also have Hololive's influence and wealth, but without the soul. There may be graduations between then and now, but they'll get angrier and angrier Hololive (or rather, idol culture that Hololive represents) doesn't topple, but rather continues getting more deals. But we'll have people try their best with as many subversive tactics as they can, so it won't be boring. Vtubing reached its Young Hollywood stage recently, so expect scandals to get bigger and bigger.
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Damn, everyone is turning on holo now
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>>109067909
This is much more inferior than it used to be.
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>>109068557
Holo lost
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>>109067949
This will be fatal blow to Cover because they really don't understand their roots.
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>>109068600
>everyone
>now

Lazy bait, this guy already threatened to copyright strike holos over Smol Ame and had several meltdowns years ago already
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>>109068576
Remember when niggers like you were calling people like Kronii bootlickers even tho she's always been one of the most vocal girls about management, just to then spend about a year graduation begging? you retards' words are worthless.
>>109068600
This nigger thought he could dramabait like we forgot how much of a piece of shit he acted like, he should rope
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>>109068600
>nigga actually nuked his entire account
KEKAROO
Almost makes me want to chase him to bluesky and shit on him there as well
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>>109068500
Yea Sana keeping in contact with JPs is surprising and not surprising at the same time given her job.
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>>109068600
Lol, retard chooses to live in ignorance. Try making a game purely for the homos maybe, instead of injecting that cancer into one about the girls, faggot.
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>>109067949
All C-Suits are from adjusant industries like anime but none with a background in Vtubing. Actually Cover is the biggest skill developer of employees in the industry so it's very much the other way around, Cover staff that leave are running other agencies.
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>>109068167
>shitter says
Because it's potentially getting this person into trouble too!
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>>109068623
oh it's the kronii avatarfag melting, figures
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>>109068623
>moves to bsky
>immediately starts screaming about naming pedophiles
Fucking parody of a human being, he's doing everything in his power to make me NOT feel bad for his broke ass
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>>109068623
kys you french nigger
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>>109068677
calling your retarded ligwhore a lying whore is not "melting"
>>109068691
seethe harder shitstain lol
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>>109068600
Is this FAG assumed his so called "game" actually good?
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>>109068705
you're such an embarrassment you frenchtard, nobody likes you
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>>109068579
That's LITERALLY what happened with Nimi
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So hytale is just a moded minecraft without redstones and other shit?
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>>109068725
keep on crying cucktard
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>>109068656
And this is fatal mistake of Cover, You're already a leader in the industry, so why the hell would you bring in someone from outside the Vtuber industry to be a upper manager?

It would be better to promote Holotalented to management positions instead.
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is Korone alright?
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It's silly how every vermin in vtubing think they just can walk in here to shit themselves about Hololive and cry their ass out when they get any kind of pushback for it, is it the so called "small dog" mentality.
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>>109068706
Few holo games are good, but most are at least enjoyable due to the girls. That game is neither.

Also, what's with the ESLs?
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>>109067949
Why don't you promote Holotalents to management positions or just put A-chan in charge instead? You're the leader of the industry so why are you stupidly putting someone else in charge?
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>>109068753
keep melting frenchie
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>>109068784
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>>109068773
No one wants to come here.
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Liggers melty
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>>109068793
LMAO
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>>109068793
What the fuck is the context for this one
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>>109068795
>thread full of faggots seething about Hololive every single day
Well, "no one" might be accurate it's not like they're even human to begin with lol
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>>109068774
Lol Every stage of that Fag's game looks like its made by a kid from roblox
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>>109068782
did your retarded ass managed to somehow skip the last part? C-suites have connections to other C-suites, THAT IS WHAT MATTERS TO THEIR JOB
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>kay yu doesn't wanna do holocure anymore or work with cover
>kevincow doesn't wanna work with cover
really makes you thinn
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>>109068826
>Kay yu
retard
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>>109068822
Wait, this reminds me, he's the one that made the smol ame game, right? Because I confused him with the other HoloBass retard.
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>>109068782
>put A-chan in charge instead?
I don't think she was even interested in upper management given she went straight to vtubing instead of transferring to another agency, which she could've.
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>>109068816
It's the same faggots that are always here not new people.
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>>109068815
That random Korean man? Nimi Nightmare
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>>109068837
yes he doesn't want to work with holo anymore
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>>109068845
Vtubing is more lucrative than being some office schmuck. There's a reason Dizzy choose to join Phase as a vtuber rather than some paper shuffler.
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>>109068826
retard
https://x.com/holocuredev/status/1997448655603974328
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J*U
Qrd on Holobro melty?
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She better do the trunks dlc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpX6cIrc6gE
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>>109068859
He contemplates adding homos to holocure, he can fuck off and let that shit die.
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>>109068878
hope he does
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>>109068744
>no redstone
this can't be real
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>sub-5k for karaoke
Wtf IRyS
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>>109068878
Actually, Holodrones hates him because not add Homos.
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>>109068903
of course you do you french faggot
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>>109068911
>because not add Homos
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>>109068905
Asian hours debuff
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I do not like the songs FWMC picked for their 3d live.
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Saba won
Mint won
Grimmi won
Holocucks lost
Phasecucks lost
Nijicucks lost
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>>109068824
Just keep the side related to sponsors or connections with outside individuals separate from the internal side. And then the problem didn't happen anymore!
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>>109068943
Same but their taste in music is terrible sadly.
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>>109068903
I quite literally don't give a shit about holocure and i hope the homos all get terminated this year.
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>5k karaoke shitrys
roru
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>>109068958
won't happen lol
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>>109068869
My point is the globally, its harder than ever to come up with a clear path. Its why I say instead of thinking of being independent entrepreneurs, its best to affect the system with as much power as you can on the inside. I still say I think Mori will be the one who ends up an executive out of everyone.
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>>109068929
Yeah, I know it sounds weird but that's how it is. Including the whole thing about Rushia too.
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Liggerbros the fleshies are mocking out whores again...
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>>109068964
A shame, but at least they're getting cucked out of everything harder than ever before lol
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>>109068623
>throwing out random buzzwords
This are the death throes of a dying corpse
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>>109068952
>Mint can't even sell out 150 seats properly
>double failed black company snake
>guy she liked was just playing with her and didn't care in the end
>all she can do now is kiss ass and leech as much as possible

What exactly did Mint win
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>biggest Hololive thread on a biggest vtubing discussion board in the west
>constant shitflinging, drama and misery
Where did things go so wrong? Why is this the state of Hololive in 2026? Was Omega the catalyst of decline?
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>>109068964
it will if the news about the relationship between fauna and vesper will reach japan.
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>>109068994
She's friends with half of holoEN
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>>109068824
>C-suites have connections to other C-suites, THAT IS WHAT MATTERS TO THEIR JOB.

And you know, these kinds of people are the most untrustworthy if you give them power, because they might take Cover money and use it to benefit another company. This is really bad.
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>>109068975
randon need this feature on youtube.
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>>109069007
>the biggest vtubing discussion board in the west
roru, rumao, kekaroo, ROFL
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>>109069008
This shit can't even breach containment out of here lmao
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Why songs IRYs always sing not so very good sound like dieng money
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>>109069008
Fauna is a nobody in JP because she didnt speak a word of it. Most of Ex-EN arent because they didnt care about establishing friendships with those girls.
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Hololive won
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Does anyone have an archive of vespiss's membership streams
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>>109068994
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>>109069041
Well..... about that.... some one post it in Sukikira but JP don't give a fuck.
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>>109069059
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why didn't anyone tell me IRyS is doing karaoke right now
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>>109068975
that's pretty funny and also true
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>>109069061
I don’t care much but what was the ruffians final thoughts on adding this guy to the live?
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>>109069085
>someone
Why would they
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>>109069014
>friend
she knows HoloEN, sure but friends...
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>>109069092
if Rushia and Coco both stayed who would be #1 now
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>>109069074
i believe its right in the OP of /orc/ under "lost Vesper/Magni VODs"
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>>109069099
They thought it was funny and were glad Fuwamoco got to pursue their dream of becoming Japanese.
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>>109069089
nigga go to towa
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>>109069041
becouse it's a doxx and dramatubers are always on the side of the homos, if you want to reach japan you need to pressure nimi.
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>>109068994
I'll laugh at Holodrones when Mint's concert sells out more virtual tickets than Kiara's sololive thanks to Saba. The cope here will be nuclear
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>>109069099
Not a ruffian but it was more of just a pretty boring segment. Like, the oji-san during GG's 3D debut was much more entertaining.
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>>109069115
That one doesn't seem to have the stream I was looking for
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>>109068878
The same thing will happen to everyone who disingenuously tries that route, they'll fade off into obscurity and then beg for relevancy when that dries up. There are a lot of stupid people who think they're taking calculated risks, and end up fucking themselves.
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>>109069131
You're not getting sales figures for either one. Also is the Kiara one even streamed?
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>>109069100
That's a very good question. It's like someone's trying to revive "leak post" back in late July.
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>>109069152
Her delivery health code
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>>109069143
wha membership are you looking for?
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Everything irys sings sounds like anime slop, I don't get why people hype her so much.
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>>109068911
ESL
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>>109069173
Apparently he had one on june 2nd 2023
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Anti-Nimi
>Saba, Dooby, Grimmi, Henya, Kronii, Bae
Pro-Nimi
>Nimi, Phoebe, Randon, Gigi, Nerissa, Mori
Neutral
>Mint, Kiara

Who's wonnering?
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>>109069099
You understand that collabing with this TV comedian they knew for well over 10 years and watched to learn Japanese was among their debut goals?
What actual "ruffian" would be shocked over them doing exactly what they said they would like to do one day?
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>>109069198
the snowpiercer membership?
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>>109069198
are you gay?
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>>109068755
You are being a retard, literally only 1 C-Suits we know of is remotely involved in direct talent activities, VP Shigeki Hayashia other then YAGOO himself and maybe Osamu Suzuki who is their quasi Head HR.
All other C - Suits are of finance/ legal/ logistics background, and you need people with experience and expertise for that.
Actually the lack of director level position that talents can directly report too is an issue in itself, having an ethics team would be even better but maybe the legal already does that.
>It would be better to promote Holotalented to management positions instead.
I assume you are talking about talents, but the fact is that women who have made their carriers streaming, dancing, creating content is unlikely to be a good leader in corporate.
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>>109069207
Saba ain't anti-Nimi until she grows some balls and unpersons her like dooby instead of doing this gay fence-sitting.
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>>109069213
Is that what it is? Probably not worth it then
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>even some people in IRyS chat noticed that she seems down
okay what exactly happened?
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>>109069213
>>109069198
that one wasn't uploaded which is a shame. you might have to ask around for that one
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>>109069207
GG, Nerissa, Mori haven't said a word about how she is now. All are neutral I would say.
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>>109069131
>sells out more virtual tickets
god the level of you holo antis lmfao
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>>109069230
Yeah she is down sucking my dick
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Top 25 CCV of January - goop ver.
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>>109069228
yeah i was there for the stream
only thing i remember was him saying Magni recommended it to him, and he told people to go to Nina's graduation stream and support her. Also said something about a karaoke he had planned for the next day (and then the hiatus -> graduations occurred)
there's not much you're missing out on.
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>>109069230
Rrat: someone very close to her is graduating soon.
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>>109069223
>only 1 C-Suits we know of is remotely involved in direct talent activities
Explain Cover's current head of marketing leading a massive anti campaign on twitter to harass and bully Miko then.
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>>109069248
Bye bye Flare
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>>109069230
>>109069248
>samefag
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>>109069248
Inner...
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>>109069250
He isn't a C-suit retard, and what the hell is "head of marketing"? Marketing what? Whats the specification?
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https://x.com/i/status/2017978831857135808
Is this AI?
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>>109069230
>>109069248
>>109069254
>>109069259
Faggots
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>>109069256
Lol, worthless site.
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>>109069256
Top 26-50, goop ver.
All of his 26 stremas are in the top 50
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>>109069230
>>109069248
>>109069254
>>109069259
whoops, like to grad begging like a cucknigger
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>>109069248
Well if it has to be someone I hope it's the chicken after the duolive, she's been grifting too much lately towards her other activities as is
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>>109069254
Not even IRyS would be sad
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>>109069278
>>109069279
Vstats knows what you are thinking
This is the normal top 25 ver.
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>>109069230
just the thought of having to go to the gym is making her tired
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>>109069290
Isn't Flare her best friend
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Ina's EP is out now supposedly but I don't know how to listen to it
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>>109069281
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Uhhh why is her setlist mostly sad songs?
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>>109069312
Beg harder and on your knees, cuck
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>Fwmc spent hours in studio together with some sex pest jap old man in person
>probably went out for "drinks" after too
Kek, ruffkeks...
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>>109069325
Sharkie graduation
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>>109069311
Go to her channel and go to releases, should be the first one
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>>109064562
She was the top 2 most popular Niji girl along with Pomu (don't remember which one was #1)
She did this without leeching off Luxiem like Pomu and Nina did, too.

While she clearly has hit her cap and limit in growth as a vtuber, I think it's significantly above the average ex-corpo fate.
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my fyp is filled with AZKi's ass
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Good morning I rabu IRyS
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when it comes to japanese ballads, I really love IRyS voice
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>>109069337
You're right. I'll check out the new songs after IRyS is done.
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>>109069248
With some JP vague posting.....well....
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>>109069230
FWMC is getting a sololive after their performance yesterday, which is why sudden JP stream and timeslot
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>10 hour thread
not even Nimi can save this thread
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>>109069384
nta but do we still call it a sololive even if there are two of them?
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>>109069394
Just need another hack.
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>>109069394
why would you want to save it?
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>>109062185
>and you think this narcisist bitch tried to an hero
It's always for show if they didn't get through with it.
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>Irys used to get 10K+ even with guerilla at this hour (late night JST)
>Struggles to get pass 8K now
Shows well how holoen has declined over last 2 years, don't you think?
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he cant be Nimi's husband because he prefers BBWs
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>>109069434
>>109069431
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>>109069434
Relax it’s not even been an hour.
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>>109069436
He said he prefers slender women
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>>109069434
WOW ALMOST LIKE ALL OF HOLOEN HAS BEEN CULLED BY YT FOR MONTHS RIGHT NOW BUT I'M SURE YOU DIDN'T NOTICE AM I RIGHT ANTIBRO
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>>109069394
We need more hololive graduation blood, hopefully someone from EN instead since JP graduations don't get people here posting as much. I would say we need a big niji yab too but they've been through so many that people got desensitized to them being evil retards, it doesn't hit the same anymore and everyone just goes "yep, niji is evil and retarded... just another normal day" and it's pointless to even talk about when something happens because evil and yab is their default state of existing. Nimi will only be relevant if it turns out that her husband is actually that faggot orc. Not much else will increase the post count. Most ex-holos are just very passive and not consistent enough to be around and yab about something. It's quite depressing, really.
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this captcha is very annoying today
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>>109069469
https://vrabi.net/video/hNRGz20LBAY got 10K within 20m
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What the Raora doing
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Is that another CC stream moved?
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>>109069434
>don't you think?
No I don't. If I had the ability to think I wouldn't be posting here.
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>>109069490
unironically skill issue
or if you don't get 1/1, skin issue
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>>109069312
This is undeniable evidence that there are some executives involved in Kanata's graduation from the beginning sitting idly in 4ch.
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I see erb is also rebroadcasting again another karaoke right now, what a weird and pointless hire.
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>>109069518
Yup, she came back a week ago and already canceled two streams and delayed two more. Generational non streamer.
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>>109069505
Is she streaming?
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>>109069434
>>109069501
Literally everybody else but Saba (when she's around) is dead af next to HoloEN
NijiEN are botted 3views
Homos are mid to low 3views and they're STILL reclining somehow
Phase is still no relevant
Nobody gives 2 shits about liggers and it's a cesspit of the most braindead drama imaginable
Vshitshow quite literaly fucking died and the ex members are all speedrunnin the drains of irelevance
Now you can shit about a random guerilla stream not meeting your arbitrary number but that won't change the fact that there isn't anything else worth anybody's time
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>>109069483
>Cull cope
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>>109069518
>>109069554
Kill yourself SEAfag
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>>109069564
>Literally everybody else but Saba (when she's around) is dead af next to HoloEN
>Who is Nimi
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>>109069537
You're undeniably retarded lmfao
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Today, I will remind them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiQKbDVeOr0
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>>109069573
Shut the fuck up grem you'd be crying too if GG was the one rescheduling streams
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>>109069588
>Who is Nimi
Engine users don't count.
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>>109069573
Holofags are rather hostile towards people who point out holoEN's problems, huh?
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>>109069588
Botted to shit with less likes and similar VOD views as 3-4k streams of the same duration
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>>109069588
Nimi is heading towards the mint/doki level of relevance recently. Her last few streams were getting manually and engine botted.
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>>109069501
https://x.com/irys_en/status/1772945368986141078
got 3 hours warning with that one, not 30 minutes like this one

she didn't even label it guerilla
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>>109069564
>Phase is still no relevant
>phase pippa killer
>sub 1k before raid
OOF
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>>109069540
>4K people (half of irys's ccv right now) would rather listen to another of erb's rebroadcast than irys's fresh karaoke stream
Grim for irys
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>>109069588
>Who is Nimi
A 4K engined shitter, that's who she is
Reminder that the bots were off when she came back but the cucks couldn't live with the fucking shame of her being fucking mint level lol
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>>109069540
Why is that weird? Also Nerissa in her rebroadcast chat seems to be loving it
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>>109069597
The signs were there from the very start, there's no point getting angry over it.
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>>109069589
Maybe but still better let more sinister or malicious rrat arise in this helllish place.
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>>109069619
1 ppm wtf, did she subs to clio bots too?
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Do ruffians really?
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>ERB vs IRyS
that's still holo vs holo you faggots
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>>109069501
Was this one overlapped by a 28k Korone stream or another JP karaoke?
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>>109069637
Like, thats all I know her for at this point. Re-broadcasts of karaoke's. You can almost forget she is a homocollaber because she basically doesnt stream or does it on twitch, where most fans of holo dont even go.
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Is it possible that Nimi is married to Randon's brother instead of Randon? Not sure if that's better or worse
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>>109069597
I'm a otomo, retard.
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>>109069619
>1ppm
and its bots majority ew
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>>109069597
>>109069646
real organic fanbase vs fanbase angle right now
do you nijiniggers ever get bored of doing this shit? tho i get it, seems better than actually watching niji kekaroo
>>109069674
there isn't a soul around who cares about your shit rrat peddling
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>>109069687
Good luck on that faggot it sold out in like 2 minutes and no Ruffian will ever sell their shit even if they're starving on their streets
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>>109069693
That's a (You) problem
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>>109069694
you should go as on towa where people care
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>>109069694
Not really
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>>109069696
Sure thing otomo who doesn't want CC to stream
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>>109063018
your 10 would make an actual 5/10 lol
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>>109069687
Do britnigger really? you nitpick a random poorfag to shit about a fanbase, i hope some paki throw fucking acid in your face you bong cuck.
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>>109068623
his downfall was shit talking ame
the guy is going to jump off a building soon
and dooby is just stuffing her face kek
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>enter /#/ expecting numbers discussions
>it's just hololive global if you removed everyone except for the schizos
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>>109069694
kek is this what they call the bargaining stage? nappos are now hoping it's at least only this or that but have generally accepted reality
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>>109069694
No negro, the dude is the brother of the man living at her place.
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>>109069633
Yup
>3.7k avg
>4.5k avg
>4.5k avg
>3.1k avg (legendary low)
>5.8k avg with anniversary buff, her special pet game buff, mint raid, SABA 16k SPIRIT BOMB RAID - yes below 6k average with ALL of that
And that was the moment Napcuck started botting her again.
Then he realized his level of botting was still not enough to get on the podium so he increased to 10k.
Most recently she still got failflop-cucked out of the podium despite getting botted to 10k, we'll see if he keeps wasting money.
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>>109069207
Kiara is absolutely pro Nimi
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>>109069712
Its not, I dont watch her. Its just a little jarring seeing her be a part of holo. What do you even like about her?
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>>109069738
>The only ones to qualify for the EN Tally are Holo girls and this monstruosity
What do you want us to talk about?
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>>109069490
I hate the Star spikes one because it's a pain to count the stars with x spikes. Worst captcha I've seen in my life
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>>109069729
she's such a fucking schizo
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>>109069726
I want CC to stream, faggot.
Stop seething against CCGG.
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>>109069753
How many rebroadcasts or twitch streams has she done recently in the past few months? The numbers must be pretty high according to you
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>>109069756
>>EN Tally
I have nothing against the Paralympics, but it's just not interesting to me.
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>>109069751
If only because Kiara is already working on her own noncorpo career, funneling her fans over to other places with all might
She wants to do her own in person concerts and everything too. I guarantee you within a few years she'll be a semi flesh streamer.
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>>109069749
Those numbers can't be real
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>>109069746
Oh I misunderstood the initial investigation. Yeah that makes sense. So it really is Randon, damn
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>>109069777
I said I basically dont even know what else she does. Karaoke, twitch, homocollabs, doesnt stream, thats it.
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>>109069785
Niji lost to HoloEN now.
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holy fat vod
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>>109069738
Been that way for a long time, I've said as much and people always gave me shit for it. This thread has been "meaner /hlgg/ that shits on everyone else" for many years now, even pre-hack. Like the opposite of what normal /hlgg/ was, we're the evil twin. They hate numbers, we don't. They don't like shit talking people, we do that as our default passtime here, and so on. This is why even in our weakened state we're still better than /hlgg/ by the way. The truth and sincerity always triumph over fake and overenthusiastic toxic positivity.
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>>109069802
Yea and like I said, that's a you problem. That's like someone who doesn't watch Raora saying all she does is art streams
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This shit Nimi op troll thread has been up for 10 hours
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>>109069809
>The truth and sincerity
If the truth and sincerity is a monkey enclosure, then I'll gladly leave the zoo.
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>>109069277
>plural
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>>109069809
This thread is just 3 or 4 schizos timelooping the same old shit they're doing the nimi dance now.
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>>109069788
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>>109069809
TRVKE NVKINGTON
WE'RE ESPECIALLY BETTER THAN THAT TOWA HUG BOX
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>>109069820
No, I dont watch Raora either but I know she does regular collabs with different girls and general gaming solo streams also. She actaully feels like a proper member thats involved in the general Holo space, Erb doesnt.
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>>109069619
hey shes got the same chat speed as vsbot with like 10-20x the ccv lol
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>>109069850
seems pretty good for an indie
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>>109069694
Randon's brother has preteen kids so unless Nimi is the step mother that stepped up, I doubt it
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>>109069809
>we may be shitty people, but at least we don't get banned over it.
I appreciate your honesty.
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>>109069809
holy based
yes gossiping and seething at women all day is the truth, also typing out cuck fantasies
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>>109069866
KEK this comes from the same guys who used to go "Nimi's base is now 15k, so based she never needed holo she's mogging them all now"
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>>109069888
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if this explodes on twitter Nimi will be forced to reveal the husband btw
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>>109069850
Now show her more recent numbers when she started playing non-debuff games
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*FEBRUARY 1ST 2026 FINAL EN TALLY*
>59,223: FUWAMOCO (<3) (Hololive English) [GLOBAL BRONZE]
>9,569: Elizabeth (Hololive English)
>9,029: Gigi (Hololive English)
>8,597: IRyS (Hololive English
>8,437: Baelz (Hololive English)
>8,374: Aia (Nijisanji English)
>6,671: Cecilia (Hololive English)

FWMC are the light of this world. EN Gold and Global Bronze for Fuwawa and Mococo Abyssgard's Birthday 3D Live celebration, Silver for Elizabeth Rose's unarchived karaoke, Bronze for Gigi Murin's playthrough of Arknights Endfield

>RANKING PER POINTS (Gold = 3, Silver = 2, Bronze = 1)
FUWAMOCO = 3p
Elizabeth = 2p
Gigi = 1p
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>>109069913
Why would she?
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ERB raided IRyS
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>>109069913
Big doubt, he is a nobody shitter and her relevance is dropping by the day.
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>Took 5 minutes for IRyS to remember that ERB's fanbase is called rosarians
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>>109069933
SHE WOULD HAVE WON SILVER IF SHE HAD BEEN RAIDED ONE MINUTE BEFORE LOL
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>>109069913
she doesnt want to waste the few gachis shes got left
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>>109069916
It was a good 3d live probably could have hit 70k if they just had more holos instead of the comedian, but if it was one of their dreams, then I can't complain. all in all a solid 8/10 #D live
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>>109069434
holoen numbers are culled
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>>109069788
>>109069850
lmfao
>>109069915
funny how the likes barely changed
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>>109069959
Nah, every 3D Live starts to go down after the merch drop

MAYBE if they had sang the orisong and Side by Side before Kuro-chan, it could have worked.
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10k doryaaaaa
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>>109069916
Cuckfians paying for their whores to get gaped by oji sans



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