I’m still baffled by what actually went down with Fauna’s graduation.If you take Kronii at her word, then the issue clearly wasn’t on Yagoo or management’s end, which makes Fauna’s “I had no choice but to leave” line feel misleading, like it quietly framed the company as the villain when that supposedly wasn’t the case.But at the same time, her exit came out of nowhere. That kind of sudden graduation doesn’t happen unless something seriously broke behind the scenes, something big, irreconcilable, and probably unexpected.There’s no way that decision was made lightly or in a vacuum.
>>109073106>If you take Kronii at her wordWhy would you do that? She’s extremely mentally ill
>>109073214Nimi has a tendency to lie.
>>109073106https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBZCapci054>I personally don't believe the company is heading towards like, a negative direction>those concerns were only brought up because they're not really that big of a deal>since if things were actually problematic, I wouldn't be bringing it on streamI do believe Kronii when she tells viewers that she intends to stay in Hololive but there is nuance in her defense of Cover. Talents can't talk about the major contract issues because doing that would break NDA so fans only hear about the small complaints. Fans are kept in the dark about the large complaints so that is why they are shocked when a graduation is announced.
Fauna hooks up with Kronii for fun, but Kronii doesn’t appreciate it when she just plays with her feelings.
>>109073106But not even an ardent holofan would take her at her word, so I'm not sure what your point was.
>>109073214Probably over half the population is now due to the effects of the internet. There no longer is anything sane anymore. We are watching dancing anime humans on screens of electron reactions sent over tubes that reach instantly across the planet. If you showed a normal man in the 1870s the future--this year say, he would go mad and burst into flames.
>>109073214that's how you know she's telling the truth
>>109073106Well what do you think the problem was? Having to go to Japan? Kronii has shown she is willing to go to Japan every once and awhile.
>>109073845
>>109073845My bet is that the bf had issues and wanted Fauna to be more available but still bring monies from streaming. That or he was straight up jealous
>>109073845>Well what do you think the problem was? Having to go to Japan?Cover damage control about how they don't need a North American 3D studio and how the EN talents love traveling to Japan really indicates that was the main issue. Only a few months after Fauna graduated they even released a Cover article about how they will add VRChat support to their 3D software to allow for remote recordings. Japanese corporations have an equivalent exchange rule that at least one talent must quit for them to fix a major issue.https://coveredge.cover-corp.com/en/list/1537>Since some talents face difficulties traveling to Japan, we are actively proposing projects that utilize VRChat and providing as much support as possible through online initiatives.>For example, as I mentioned, we are actively working to introduce technologies like markerless motion capture, which enable high-quality streaming regardless of location, and every day, we continue to explore new ways to better support our overseas talents as we work toward achieving the company’s mission.
>>109073845Fauna also had no problem going to Japan every year. Until Randon wanted her not to.
>>109075230Oh is Randon being her secret guy the new rrat?
>>109073252Same for Kronii.Both are lying whores.
>>109076194Kronii is a good girl, she gave her fans something I have never seen another vtuber ever do.
>>109076560>Kronii gave her Instagram to a dude that gave her a massagehttps://youtu.be/2i7W6tLZY2k?t=1h1m5s>Then (almost) messaged him on streamhttps://youtu.be/2i7W6tLZY2k?t=1h5m6s >Got really flirty when drunk with her group of friendshttps://youtu.be/x_N9_9VW0aQ >2 times she talked about some dude staring at her ass
>>109076160Lurk more before posting.
>>109073106It's gonna be so funny when she finds out you people are using her to attack Nimi and calls it out how stupid and deranged you are on stream
>>109077092She also did the same with her fans on a twitter spaces where she talked in a "GFE" mode
>>109077314>and calls it outSo far everyone supposedly involved in Fauna/Nimi's "drama" has kept quiet about it. Kronii herself has kept quiet about it and seems content to ignore her forever. I don't think she'll care if numberschizos start chimping out in their containment thread.
>>109073106Marine x Shion but with a bad outcome
>>109077092>a woman do women thingsWoah
what is her definition of "a negative direction" for the company
>>109077314It's gonna be funny when literally nobody says anything about this because their company won't let them.
>>109077314>he thinks she's not the one posting about this drama
>>109073106I don't get it.I' looking at all these replies...Is this one giant bait thread where everyone is pretending that we didn't just definitively find out the reason why Vesper was terminated was because he was fucking Fauna while they were in hololive and now she's marrying him?Like, it isn't difficult to understand why Kronii and the others hate her when she is such an irredeemable back-stabbing whore that destroyed hololive EN.
I unironically believe this is what happened
>which makes Fauna’s “I had no choice but to leave” line feel misleadingBecause it was. You don't need half a brain to be able to decode that she saw that she could just do what she wanted as an indie instead of being in the corpo and tried to vaguely pin "blame" on them. I don't really care one way or the other, do what you want but you don't need to be a genius to see through her statement.
>>109079017>you can't live with him it's a liability>we made kanata and coco stop living together, you have to do the same>no! you can't just chose to leave instead!
>>109079017You sound like you care a lot about protecting the honor of a company that doesn't know you exist, actually.
>>109073106Fauna left because getting married is the last step before having a baby. Having a kid is a huge time commitment, and I don't see Fauna and Cover agreeing with time allotment. So Fauna left.This might sound weird to most of /vt/ but family > money.
>>109078937I thought the "friend that couldn't read the room" was Mumei? Because she's autistic.
>>109079166But [insert unhinged conspiracy here] so your theory has no weight. Slur tourist.
>>109079070Who are you even arguing with? Take your meds.>>109079115Where do I defend the companies honor? I deal with enough clients to know when someone is lying. You can just look at her rollout and know what she was planning.I'm shooting the shit on 4chan while I eat dinner. Not my fault you're autistic and can't read or really form a coherent sentence.
>>109079212They still don't know you exist.
>>109079212I was just explaining how this new rrat ties into the "no choice" statement. I guess ending the hypothetical relation ship is technically a choice, but only technically.
>>109079070only a retard would allow kanata to live with kson while she was in vshojo.
>>109079310Yeah I get the reason behind it. It's evil and will only cause the talent to hate you, but I get why they did it. And if they put Fauna in the same situation, it's no wonder she left
>>109078060I mean, Marine x Shion also didn't really end well either...
>>109073106>>109075230>>109078937everything starts to make sense if you see it more as a love triangle. she had a great chemistry with vesper and fauna stole him from her.
>>109079204>unhinged conspiracy theoryThey literally proved that they are living together two days ago.
>>109079531And the dream came to you when, last night or the night before?
>>109079345Aruran said that stars are not allowed to date holos.Vesper was terminated because the company found out he was fucking Fauna. They couldn't terminate both of them at the same time because then it would make everyone realize why they were both fired. Cover probably started treating Fauna poorly afterwards so that she would eventually choose to leave on her own, which she did. That is how Japanese companies operate.Cover didn't do anything wrong. Fauna betrayed the other girls, her fans, and the company that made her famous. Hiring her was a mistake because she is a selfish, sociopathic whore that only thought about herself and getting dick. She is utter trash and should be pushed out of the industry. This is not the second or even third group of friends that Lemonleaf/Fauna/Nimi has betrayed and had a falling out with. She is a genuinely bad person.
>>109079549Randon accidentally said his brother's name is Ian.Nimi's said her brother in law's name is Ian.They live at the same house.If you need proof of any of this, check the deleted posts in the recent /#/ threads.
>>109079793>check /#/ threads for proofWe can stop here the conversation
>>109079793>Nimi's said her brother in law's name is Ian.I don't know or care about anything else you said but that one is blatantly not true. She's literally never shared the name of any family members, and she definitely hasn't talked about any in-laws.
>>109076560Yeah, extreme NTR with gymbro
Fauna let for the same reason that Gura and Mumei did, because they did not like having to travel to Japan due to very obvious circumstances keeping them where they were. T
>ITT tourists who still don't know about Randon and Nimi
>>109079724She is vegan. They will grab whatever happiness they can get at any cost to balance out what they have to give up with their lifestyle
>>109073106>>109073252What do you gain from this crack pot theory OP? Gaslighting Nimi doesn't negate all the graduations before and after Numi and the repeated issues that have come up. If you're pretending to be a Cover shrill targeting only the EN side and those with the highest CCV at the time makes no sense. Also why involve another Snot member and not Holo management, a common factor in a lot of the graduations?
>>109079867An airforce pilot registered to vote using a certain address.If you are a fan of the orc fag, you will understand what that means.
>>109073106It's literally been a year, anon. Why are you still posting about this? I miss Fauna too, but just let it go man.
>>109080008I'm not OP, but I believe that the homos being terminated after Cover found out that vesper was fucking Fauna influenced Ame's decision to quit. Which in turn led to Gura deciding to quit.It also fractured council, because Kronii's fallout with Fauna was obviously caused by these events in hindsight.Basically, Fauna destroyed hololiveEN myth and promise because she is a selfish, irredeemable whore.The first time they would have probably met in person was in summer 2023 when Fauna went to Japan. That overlapped the time vesper was there too.In August 2023, Gura said she was the happiest she had ever been and loved hololive. She then suddenly stopped streaming on August 19 and ghosted her fans for 5 months except for a couple mandatory streams like an outfit reveal that Cover had to advertise in her stead because she refused to stream. Every time Gura came back after that, she wouldn't talk to chat directly and seemed exhausted and depressed.Ame created the dooby discord in October 2023, so what likely happened is that shortly after the homos were terminated in Summer 2023, Ame made some kind of decision to leave ad Gura found out on August 19th.That would have been right around the time Myth would have renewed their contracts and so Ame probably told myth 2024 would be her last year.Indeed, Kiara later confirmed that Myth had known about Ame wanting to leave since the previous year and she had mentioned that she had asked management about graduated talents making guest appearances for concerts in late 2023, even though no one had publicly announced they had planned to graduate during that year.Kronii's falling out with Fauna happened in Fall 2023, likely after she found out what happened. It explains everything she said about feeling betrayed and why she blocked anyone mentioning her roommate and Randon/Nimi on twitter, even when they didn't @ her and it was positive, such as wishing they would collab.The holostars were always a cancer and hiring them and Fauna was the greatest mistake that Cover has ever made. This was not the first or even the second group of friends that Fauna has betrayed or had a falling out with. She is a genuinely bad, sociopathic person.
>>109080110Fauna is so powerful her mental hold on this board completely mindbroke thousands.
>>109080126How does gymbro gaping kronii fit into this? Was it revenge?
>>109073106only slave give away 50% of their work to their master, well, that what i would have said if she didn't work for Youtube sama now lol
swarthy thread
>>109073845>>109075230>Fauna also had no problem going to Japan every year.She hated it. Vegan meals were harder to come by and she didn't have her preferred pillow to sleep with. She hated changing her sleep schedule. So much so that she faked internet connection issues to bail out of the Mario Maker tournament on IRyS instead of just admitting she wanted to go back to sleep.
>>109080126Makes sense
>>109080172Unironically
>>109073810kek BAUSED
>>109078937wtf
>>109079724>Aruran said that stars are not allowed to date holos.>Vesper was terminated because the company found out he was fucking Fauna.Are unicorns really going to run damage control for Cover with these obvious lies? Magni and Vesper were fired while helping Kronii with a contract dispute. Vesper waited until after his 2.0 model redesign to make that clear. >>109079724>Cover didn't do anything wrong. Fauna betrayed the other girls, her fans, and the company that made her famous.While this soap opera rrat is amusing why do you think Caspurr vaguely talked about being asked to help with something to achieve an impossible task? A Hololive talent getting an optional 2.0 design is nearly impossible (Kaela and IRyS) and was rare even in Holostars (Asterl, Aruran, and Vesper). Kronii wasn't even upset with Fauna until the very end of 2023 when she made the decision to graduate. The timing doesn't remotely connect with the date that Vesper got fired.
>>109079310Vshojo is not real problem at that time because Yagoo still like Ironmouse but Mikeneko aka Nazuna is a real problem.
That faggot had a menhera attack during the japan arc and probably forbid fauna to fly there too.
>>109081056put up some evidence or stfu already outfitschizo
>>109073106>If you take Kronii at her worA corpo sluts word should never be taken as truth.
>>109081370Especially after the hard proof she's slurping down dark chocolate from gymbro every stream
>>109073882>menharas after not being allowed to smoke weed in JapanOrccucks are pathetic lmao.
>>109081370>corpo slutsWhat makes this interesting is that Kronii is normally one of the loudest voices when Hololive screws up. She doesn’t mince words and has openly criticized staff before, so her defending the company this time actually carries weight.The last time something like this happened was Rushia’s firing, and we all remember how that went. Back then, Flare showed no remorse and didn’t express any sympathy to Rushia.This time around, the entire Promise generation completely ignored Fauna during her graduation tour.
>>109081574And yet the hypocritical whore is getting filled by gymbro every night Curious.
>Fauna asked Kronii to visit her on her birthday>Kronii flew and stayed for 3 days>fruits basket marathon>watched Mario movie at a theater>reminisced and watched clips of devour and other old collabs>cuddled on the couch together with snail>slept in the same bed>Fauna was too shy to try on a dress at a mall, so Kronii asked the shopkeeper and bought the dress for her.>https://youtu.be/NqS7aleMTLM>trimmed nails>itchy nose>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByOPE-7wej8>Fauna lost on purpose and let Kronii win for 5 games>https://youtu.be/Zkvb0-6Kzo4?t=5788>Kronii: You're patient? oh really? You weren't so patient when that happened.>https://youtu.be/BeSe4nvYws8>last tweet, retweet, or mention Summer 2023>last 1 on 1 collab Summer 2023>last mention on-stream (Kronii's end) Summer 2023Reminder that they had sex, were in a relationship for a while, and then stopped talking to each other. Even in Japan, they went on dates together, they signed the wall together climbing the same ladder while holding hands.Their relationship ended sometime late 2023.Kronii was heartbroken about it, never mentioning Fauna, re/tweeting her, avoiding her in collabs, etc., Kronii only said goodbye to her in the graduation stream because the others agreed to do a group goodbye.The fundamental reality is Fauna wanted to try girls, Kronii wanted something more. Fauna got bored, Kronii was used. There’s only one villain in this story. Kronii has no ability to recognise if she’s being used (Sally/Fauna) and if she does realise then she keeps intentionally hurting herself by letting herself think she’ll have something she’ll never get.It’s well understood Fauna is a vindictive bitch, why else would her successor partner with one of the people who worked hard to ruin Kronii’s life.
>>109081251>put up some evidence or stfu already outfitschizoKaela getting a model redesign after her 3D showcase is a change in Hololive that was almost as significant as Advent and Justice getting creative input on their model designs. Still with the Nexus gate portal delaying ENreco I think you will get direct evidence soon enough.>>109081574Kronii was the only one that was noticeably angry with Fauna and after the Sana graduation they likely did promise to stick together. Kiara did bluntly say that in a job you sometimes quit so it's not like there weren't talents who defended the graduation. To lose Ame, Fauna, Gura, and Mumei in a short time span was demoralizing and in general the mood in the EN branch was grim in 2025.
>>109081056Yep 100% and that Vesper bitching about not being able to be a creativeHe stated his reason why he left right here:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfyyY4gW8P4
>>109082660https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyMKVDzlvh8
>>109082572None of that is evidence also kaelas new outfit is more revealing than her old one, kill yourself outfitschizo
>>109079442>Vesper and Fauna are secretly dating but nobody else knows yet>Vesper is flirting with Kronii and leading her on but Fauna doesn't know>Fauna is flirting with Kronii and leading her on but Vesper doesn't know>Kronii is having a bisexual panic attack
>>109080008Fauna was the only holo that caused her own fans to attack the other girls for supposedly being liars and corpo bootlickers. In all other graduations, fans were disappointed with management and didn't attack the girls. I lost all respect I had for her because of how she handled her own graduation.
>>109084717"Caused"? Her own fans? Holy revisionism, Batman. She was just one domino in a line of other girls blaming the same problem. You being unable to accept your corporate overlords have faults is ironic given what he problem discussed is!
>>109086434Ah yes the domino, the one with peppeloni and without peppeloni
>>109073106You know why and were just randonbegging
>>109073106>fauna "misleading" line>kroni "since if things were actually problematic, I wouldn't be bringing it up on stream"No wonder hololive remains problematic they let the other girls who aren't in good position to fight their battles alone into graduation.
>>109081754The Kaela part is missing from this. Is this an old version?
>>109073106>Kronii and Fauna unironically fought over VesperI hope these girls know that they can do better.
>>109073106Fauna stole Vesper from KroniiKronii still seething about it
>>109079177No way Moom would tell someone to give a lapdance
>>109073106>“I had no choice but to leave”pretty sure she never said this
>>109073106>But at the same time, her exit came out of nowhere. That kind of sudden graduation doesn’t happen unless something seriously broke behind the scenes, something big, irreconcilable, and probably unexpected.It didn't, anon. She wanted to play games without dealing with perms. She didn't want to go to Japan. She didn't want to wait 2 years for a MV to get approved. And now with a stable partner she doesn't need the holo money either so she can turn it entirely into a hobby that sometimes pays for itself. It sounds pretty simple to me
>>109079177Mumei's not obsessed with twerking like Kiara is
>>109077092Those first two clips don't make her seem flirty, but they make her seem dumb as fuck. Like, jeezus christ girl, have you no sense of self-preservation?
>>109086434You're the one distorting history. "Disagreement with management" was a common reason given for their graduation but Fauna was the only case where fans flipped the fuck out and started attacking the girls who said they're satisfied with the company. In all other cases, anger was directed at management only, not the girls.
>>109080557She should eat vegen food in JP temple. It's very delicious meal.
Somebody should tell vegan Vtuber about Shojin Ryori in Tokyo. It's easy to find if you look in the right place.
>>109090235> most of Holos are meat lover.
>>109090283vegetarian, not vegan
>>109079408This clearly ended worse
>>109090811>Shojin ryori is fully vegetarian, and in fact, frequently uses no animal products at all, making it suitable for vegans, too.
>>109091038This and it's cheaper if you compare to other luxurious dinner or yakiniku.
>>109073106>If you take Kronii at her wordThe same Kronii that managed to backstab her most devoted fans and the homos Vesper and Magni?The same mushroom hunting Kronii who also swears she's a lesbian?
>>109078371SAAAR your English lessons!
>>109091219>The same mushroom hunting Kronii who also swears she's a lesbian?She's not a lesbian, she's not straight, and she's not bi either. She's gender fluid. So depending on what gender she feels like being that day, she'll be attracted to that gender's opposite sex. It just so happens that she's been choosing "female" often. It's an absolute cop out for sure though, but she'll use that as her get out of jail free card.
>>109089957She was the first (english) one to give that reason specifically. Aqua gave it first, but EOPs don't know that.
>>109091219>The same Kronii that managed to backstab her most devoted fansHow devoted could you possibly be if you flip out at a collab stream? That's the definition of fickle, not devoted.
>>109091227>if you cannot prove him wrong, attack him on something else!As always
>>109091282it's a nice theory but kronii frequently expresses attraction to women even when she's acting femme, and she rarely expresses attraction to men unless it's for a joke
>>109092643That still doesn't change much about my theory except for Kronii being a gender fluid person who's homosexual. You're missing my point though: the point is that she has the perfect cover by just saying she's a gender fluid homo. If she's actually a straight woman pretending to be lesbian, then she always lie and say she's gender fluid and use an excuse like "I'm a woman on stream but off stream I'm a man" and no one would give her pushback.
>>109091389Lots of people use disagreements with management as an excuse but that doesn't launch retards into a frenzy to attack the other girls. Fauna was the only one who worded things in such a way that saplings attacked the other girls who remained in hololive and ran damage control for Fauna. And Fauna stayed silent throughout the entire fiasco of saplings calling the girls liars and bootlickers. That just didn't happen with anyone else but Fauna. Why is this so difficult to understand?
>>109093322>fauna is the only one who worded things in suchno, if anything, Gura's was MUCH more abrasive but you don't hear anyone up in arms over it, namely because they already got their fearmongering out with Fauna, the first attempt at using that wording.
>>109091282So she's a fucking tranny? Hololive has been doomed for years.
>>109093635she used to be, then she got hotter and magically found out she'd been a girl all along>backstab her most devoted fans and the homos Vesper and MagniKronii made a mistake, she was naive. Mr. Nightmare was the one who backstabbed her because she didn't want to collab anymore.
>>109074460>Cover damage control about how they don't need a North American 3D studio Why spend 40gorillion dolla for a studio that <%10 of their talents would use? Cheaper to fly them to Japan for a few months or when needed, which seems to be the conclusion they came to.
>>109087974Kinda seems like the Nimischizo is just a Kronie. But could it be Kronii herself?
>There's no issue because I'm talking about how I couldn't talk about it if there were issuesRight
>>109094646why'd a kronie say Fauna stole Vesper from her? It's cuck behavior and that's for napkeks
>>109094917They're forever cucks after gymbro
>>109095030oh it's gymschizo. She talked about being hit on at the gym on the last members, said that never happened.
>>109095057>believing a literal lying whore holy shit an actual clockcuck in the wild, you and napkeks are made for each other.
>>109095057Why are you lying? She said she gave him her number and they've been having a 'lot of fun' together at the gym.
>>109095106>don't believe to her, believe to me, i say the truth!Schizo behavior
>>109095127yes we know, not sure why the cuck is pretending she isn't getting piped weird thing to lie about
>>109095127never happened>>109095106she's a sweet and honest girl, not everyone has dirty secrets to hide
>>109095170>sweet>honestLMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO please tell me you're joking, this whore is a passive aggressive menhera slut that lies constantly gymbro should have opened your eyes to that but you seem to be a cuck in denial
>>109095210she conceals some info for opsec purposes only. She's very open about most stuff and has already said she wouldn't hide anything that would hurt us. It's no use talking to you, but I trust her completely.
>>109095268You're trying too hard. You just admitted she lies, yet you 'trust her'. Work on your falseflagging cuck
>>109087907>>109087974Does this have any substance? Did she ever compliment him or seem interested in him? She seemed colder toward the boys than towards the girls?
>>109095268she vagueposts on her alt that she knows her fans track (because she literally told you multiple times on stream she spies on her fans, both online and in person at events), leaving just enough cryptic comments to control the narrative. and even then she comes off as menhera
>>109095446What narrative?
>>109087907>they can do betterYeah, about that.
>>109095127Was he Black?
>>109097575Obviously
>>109073106Love Kronii Hate Faunasimple as
>>109097645Oh yeah... I'm thinkin BASED.
I love /vt/ fan fiction.
>>109097691Both you and napcucks are on the chairs next to each other, cuckKronii isn't going to fuck you for simping online kek
>>109097931You ok man?
>>109073214still better source of info than fauna
>>109073106fauna wanted to announce her marriage, cover does not allow their talents to leak such stuff as it endangers other talents and company
>>109098067If that was true kronii wouldn't have released her little gymbro drop
>>109074015>as corpo you have non-creative persons cramping your streams and telling you what you should dothen he proceeded to not do anything creative
>>109073106Me personally, Fauna gives me the ick, she has bad vibes, I never really liked her even back when they debuted. It's all in her aura.Kronii seems more naive in a sense, an honest and good person overall, I like her quite a bit, even if I don't have time to always watch her.
>>109086786Kaela taking madical/technical break 9months after Kronii visited her, Kaela got pregnant during that visit and Kronii is man
>>109098117clocklings love it
>>109098332pasta di mare
>>109097575not really. He's Kronii's cousin
>>109079793fuck of numbercult faggotgo back to counting the amount of dicks your oshi takes a day
>>109098591uh oh gymschizo melty
>>109098659>numbermonkey noisesGo to bed, Jakartan
>>109098332>Kronii seems more naive in a sense, an honest and good person overall,This.The reason why Kronii was trying to change how she presents herself streaming is people were using her to harass her fans and she was looking for ways to stop it. Or the fact that during the whole homo shitshow she specifically made sure the unicorns got to have a fair say and reprimanded homo beggars when they openly attacked unicorns. And that only fell apart because she followed Mori's advice of 'owning the haters'
>>109101330>made sure the unicorns got to have a fair say>then promptly ignores what they sayBased?
>>109077092But this is just women things?
>>109101558Clockcuck...
