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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://holo-spotify-stats.jirikunes.eu/

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/
>https://streamscharts.com/
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>>109146099
Indie avengers fear the reanimated hologods
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>>109146256
https://x.com/erogaki_o/status/2018970817204478315?s=20
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napkeks what the fuck happened
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BIBOO BIBOO
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>>109146355
and that's WITH bots lmao
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>there is no bullying in holol-ACK!!
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>>109146355
everyone knows what happened
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>go live with cc away from the apt complex
subtle
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pls consider
learn to drop hate
invest in a smile
love will come
maybe you will like it
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>>109144301
The MC servers were separated for a time BUT they were free to travel between servers and collab with each other, you retard
And that "separate server" thing stopped being years ago
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Ai no Jikkai by IRyS is the most impressive vocal performance in all of Hololive. However, not a lot of people know about it since it was released on an EP and never got an MV.
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we are now replying to 7 hour old posts
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dead thread
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So the antis unironically won? Killed her passion for streaming and got her friends to dissociate her from their streams. That's grim.
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>>109146560
the mask got too heavy
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>>109146560
Miko is not my oshi but her situation makes me sad and less excited about Hololive as a whole. Is this how it feels when Coco was attacked by the chinese?
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>>109146560
Seeing Fubuki, Subaru and Mio betray her to play Terraria with Pekora for weeks was probably the last straw
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>>109146533
Sounds like every other IRyS song, comfortably in her (limited) range and with no power. There's even a few spots where the song sounds like it's building up to a big belt and then there's just nothing lol
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>>109146560
>>109146570
>>109146580
>>109146581
?
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>dead thread
>suddenly raid against Miko
lol
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>>109146580
Honestly if she graduates, I think I'm done with vtubers. I don't like this feelings. Being parasocial towards sports team seems better.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=892pIe16DWo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=892pIe16DWo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=892pIe16DWo
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>>109146582
Enna lost btw
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>>109146560
Retard. She is the biggest vtuber in the world. Antis come with the territory and she is experienced enough to recognize that. The antis aren't anything new either. Remember when she was attacked relentlessly for putting a doujin in the fridge? She will be fine.
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Is Pekoras pet monkey dead?
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>>109146627
What does an STD ridden niji whore have to do with IRyS's singing?
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>>109146636
>Doujin in the fridge
That entire situation still feels surreal. Was absolutely crazy that peopled cared so deeply about something so stupid, lol. /vt/ was better in those days.
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Raden's birthday was such a flop, never let homobeggars say she's big again
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>>109146646
This is a pro IRyS thread sir. We think she is the best singer in Hololive and she is the biggest sex symbol in all of Hololive.
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Is Raden not using the Cover studio?
>Location footage, live performance footage, and production cooperation: Studio Soup.
>https://studio-soup.net/
>https://x.com/mo_cap_studio
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>>109146646
try harder, ennacuck
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>>109146636
This situation is obviously different and is an extension of the hate she started getting in the last few months last year. There is a very obvious and noticeable lack of collabs with her usual friends and that's really fucked up. This situation probably made her realizing how much stress streaming can cause her. HoloGTA2 sure as fuck would never happen now if I was her.
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>>109146692
she can't afford it
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IRyS is a pro nut gobbler
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>>109146670
I don't think homobeggars remember she exists
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>>109146670
While you're true about Raden being a flop, today she's also a highlight of how much Nijisanji dropped
Top Niji is competing (and losing) to a DEV_IS flop
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>>109146692
20 billion yen studio btw.
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>>109146692
The premise of 3D lives and other type of events is that the girl will use it as a 60 minutes informercial to sell lots of merch and gets lots of donations at the end, more than covering the cost of the whole thing.
I don't think Raden is in position to cover any cost given her penchant to leave money in the table
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>>109146692
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>>109146678
She is the biggest sex symbol in all of hololive but whether or not she is the best singer depends on what you value the most in a singer. She is very comfortable in her range and pretty much never sounds even slightly off, even when singing songs she isn't very familiar with live. But her ceiling is a bit lower than some other members, she lacks power behind her voice and struggles with anything too low or too high for her range (technically everyone does I guess but that range being more limited in her case makes it so that more things are too low or too high).
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>>109146582
>There's even a few spots
ESL Ennacuck.
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>>109146734
>She is the biggest sex symbol in all of hololiv-
***BLOCKS YOUR PATH***
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>>109146706
Your mom is a pro nut gobbler OOOOOOOOOHHHHH
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>109146699
Look, it's the concerntroll again
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>>109146734
>>109146763
webm related
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https://x.com/raorapanthera/status/2018866597423952196

New Raora's outfit? I wish that justice released them together, now she will have 4 outfits vs CC having only 2
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>>109146778
You already posted this
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>>109146710
>I'm shitting on Raden for being a nijihomocollaber
>thinks I care about Kuzuha being in his worst performing days ever
lol
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>>109146781
And no one replied. We need to get the ppm up, in case you didn't know
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>>109146692
Likely hogged for holofes.
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>>109146778
Raora has an extra one because of MH. Cecilia gets hers and is 3 and 3
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>>109146778
the better question is why would she get a 2nd maid outfit
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Pekora is so fuckable its crazy
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>>109146818
calm down Hikakin
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>>109146784
Nobody said you care, I'm just taking advantage of the hook to stick it in the eyes of the nijiniggers
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how do we stop the racism in hololive
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>>109146857
It's unironically okay when Holos do it
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>>109146855
>Raden is a bad performing whore
>Kuzuha is dropping lower every month
alright, not complaining
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this worm is raping them
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There are currently seven sex symbol threads on the catalog
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>>109146816
Raora is obsessed with maids
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>>109146922
you currently are unemployed
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>>109146922
make seven more
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>>109146947
Shiori will save them tomorrow with their collab and the boys will incline, for sure this time
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>>109146947
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>>109146947
:(
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>>109147033
why focus on him?
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>>109146947
they can go lower
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>>109146947
holo numbers have rotted your brain these are actually really good numbers the branch is doing fine
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>>109147096
if they were indies sure, not for a corpo leeching the hololive name
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>>109147096
tell him that
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>>109147096
This has to be the saddest cope from mansisters
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>>109146734
IRyS> Rissa> ERB> Bae> Kiara> Mori> FuwaMoco> Ina> Kronii> Gigi> Biboo> Ceci> Shiori> Raora
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>>109147096
why is bro mad lmao? Anon was just posting numbers.
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>>109146947
Holy shit, I'm about to ask where is the clown 3k stream and he now can't even 600 ccv.
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>>109146778
It's "New Raora outfit" not "New Raora's outfit", ESLchama
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>>109147161
Can't even get*
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>>109147154
Kiara that high is scandalous
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>>109147114
>if they were indies
Not really. I always see this angle, but it depends on if you are making money while being a 3view. The homos are unironically living on welfare, dont think any of them would continue streaming if they graduated.
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>>109147154
now post yourself singing so we know you're not tone deaf
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>>109147096
>holostars should collab more with the girls because holostars is hololive
>they have shit numbers because holostars is not hololive
Interesting
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>>109147124
this just makes me feel bad for them, imagine getting hired as a holostar and all the games you want to play (including popular, well-liked games like dark souls that the girls play) are just things your audience doesn't give a FUCK about
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>>109147114
>>109147125
>>109147159
Y'all are just angry they are more successful than you will ever be
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>>109147154
unfathomably based
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>>109146734
>She is the biggest sex symbol in all of hololive
you either accept that it's okayu or you accept that you're delusional
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>>109147182
the two EN homos that got fired are still streaming while they lost over 10x their numbers
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>>109147215
Okayu tries too hard nowadays and I find that off putting
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>>109147216
Are they living off of said streaming? I doubt it, I assume its just a hobby for them and they have a normal job outside of it.
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Why are holochuds harassing the poor Phase girls now?
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>>109147232
that's a weird way to say you're gay
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>>109147247
KEK
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>>109147197
It’s not Dark Souls though it’s the mediocre Souls like but anime.
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>>109146734
But Suisei is the sex symbol of Hololive by quantity AND quality
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>>109147206
>all have to work a second job
>can't afford a ps5
they're only more succesful than the average 3rd world villager
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>>109147275
>ERB
>sexy voice
I don't have a reaction pic funny enough for that one
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>>109147275
Move CC to the top
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>>109147275
rape gg
sex cc
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>>109147247
LOL
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>>109147206
Well you seem to be informed about your shitters, do any of them own a house (preferably in the first world)
Because i do :)
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>>109147247
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>>109147096
they're unironically doing worse than ever
i'm not being hyperbolic some of them use to get 1K somewhat consistently
also i think some homosis was having an episode over their numbers last night
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>>109147406
I mean Vesper doesn't own one but his fiancee does and they live together, does that count?
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>>109147406
jurard is confirmed to be rich faggot
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>>109147442
Vesper doesn't even count as "one of your shitters" anymore, hasn't been for 3 years
>>109147446
>rich
>flip
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
I take 5 percent of what i own and i run your shithole of a country you fucking joke of a person
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>>109147446
No rich man would be entertaining a couple hundred weirdos who watch him, hes living off welfare like the rest of them.
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>>109147467
kek you're so easy to bait selenfaguette
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>>109147446
>>109147488
>retard seething at the frog is a homocuck
:o y'know "baiting" people won't helf the homos' predicaments...
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>>109147509
>helf
ESL retard
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>>109147509
stop talking about yourself in third person faggot
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>>109147488
>I made you shit on the homos and flips haha i wonnered
Sure why not, happy to oblige, btw i'm selling a suzuki gsxr streetfighter do you think richman jutard is interested
>>109147525
>Seethe at typos
We got em' lads
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I ate at a buffet, now I'm eating a leftover pizza
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>>109147525
>>109147537
how bout' you kys homoshits??
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>>109146665
Japs are mental midget retards.
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>>109147525
>>109147537
>1 min
that bad huh
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Why is /baubau/ so fucking racist?
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>>109147154
>Raora last place
I'll buy low and sell high. I love the idol journey
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>>109147247
based
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>>109147446
Last time i heard, he's almost die riding a one man ferry, a rich person would just riding a helicopter like reine.
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>>109147154
Patching the middle tier
Fuwamoco > Kronii > Ina > Biboo > Fuwawa > Mococo > Gigi
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>>109146947
theyre pretty much getting Randon numbers (with twitch+YT ccv) but Randon has the freedom of no management down his neck
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>>109147732
And a rich wife supporting him
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>>109147327
I do
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CC is an underrated singer. All she needs is a good vocal director.
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>>109147732
Very compelling i think all the homos should graduate (reads terminated)
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>>109147795
She sounded so good (relatively speaking of course) in Naimononedari and then she just never sang like that again
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holy shit we're dead
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So Calli and CC played red dead redemption. Did any of them refrained from hunting? Did any other EN or ID?
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R
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>>109148025
A
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Hahah pebbles get owned
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3z1UE8HIi0
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>>109148034
P
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>>109148048
E
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>>109147719
IRyS (ditzy kind) > Kiara (desperate kind) > Rissa (desperate) > Bae (rats) > Fuwawa (Fluffy) > Biboo (damn kusogaki, shes asking to be corrected) > Mococo (I want to fix her) > Ina (house wife) > Ceci (cousin sex) > Kronii (rape) > Mori (older sister) > Gigi (needs to be corrected as well) > Raora (big cat means) > ERB > Shiori
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>>109148058
D
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>>109148018
Gura and Ame did start, I tthink there was someone else but I'm not sure
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>>109147962
>I want to do longer streams
>I want to have more collabs
>I want to do a doobathon
>I want to beat 26 games in 2026
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Holosalt is back??
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https://www.reddit.com/r/okbuddyhololive/comments/1qvllq2/how_it_feels_not_to_call_her_a_whore_for_being/
okbh talking about (you) btw
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>>109148134
hey the year just started there's 10 more months to achieve all of that
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I never cared about Fauna, never gave her money, never thought of her as GFE
I call her a whore because it makes people mad and I defend her because it makes more people mad
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>>109148159
They already get along better than Holosalt ever did. They were awkward af. It's just that Kronii and Vesper were better streamers in general
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What a line up!
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>>109146947
What did clown do to piss off whatever fans her had
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>>109148040
>392 subs
>literal WHO
get the fuck out of here bozo
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>>109148238
>Spammed collabs with his dumbass brother even if his fans begged him to stop
>Played absolute slop to the point of angering his fanbase
>Double dipping with his RM, an egregious example being one time he didn't stream under Bettel for a month but did so under his RM
>FSP drained the Homobox dry in general, every single Homo from Blue to Dinofag lost about half of their fanbase
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I don't care I don't watch homosexual slop
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>>109148252
>>FSP drained the Homobox dry in general, every single Homo from Blue to Dinofag lost about half of their fanbase
Didn't FSP yab after that? Let me guess, none of those fans returned to the homos.
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>>109148284
erm.. you posted 3 married women
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>>109148288
Yeah, the one termination they had was 100% the Homo's fault so they just dealt with him and I Pretend I Do Not See It

It was extremely counterproductive for HomoEN to paint their concert as the end of the branch and the final goodbye, their fans just fucking left lol
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Shitori the botted Homo Whore Dox
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>>109148288
what was the yab? I only heard one of the guys there fucking things up cause he can't take a plane
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>>109148288
They "yab" was some homo attempting to give fsp a selen shock but it backfired and he's forgotten
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>>109148236
>What a line up!
>and its the special ed down syndrome squad that people watch out of pity
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Why are holofans like this?
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>>109148238
Non stop magni dick sucking. Finally did an official caspurr collab on his main channel with weekly flesh content with him.
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>>109148317
it was a pretty funny drama, he tried to look like a Selen-esque victim but the company fucking BTFO'd his ass by proving everyone was his fault and fired him
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>>109148134
Shes lucky she was a Holo, I dont see a regular indie keeping any kind of audience after being gone for this long.
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>>109148368
>grem
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>>109148368
seeing as it's a grem good chance they might be from Israel
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>>109148159
>I miss holosalt
every time, kek
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>FRIENDLY REMINDER!!
we love Mori here
we love Kiara here
we love Dooby here
we love Ina here
we love Saba here
we love Namie here
we love Nimi here
we love IRyS here
we love Shachi here
we love Bae here
we love Kronii here
we love Fuwawa here
we love Mococo here
we love Nerissa here
we love Biboo here
we love Shiori here
we love ERB here
we love Cecilia here
we love Raora here
we love Gigi here
we love Randon OUR HUSBAND here

we hate Kiaraschizo/Egguardo/Baeschizo here
we hate Selenfag here
we hate homobegging nijishitters here
we hate all schizos here
>Umm, achuwee, we hate-
We hate YOU, you falseflagging cocksucking son of a dead drunken fat whore
>We
Yes we, You can kill yourself and go to hell
We all would be happy if you killed yourself and died right now, nobody would fucking miss you, especially not your whore mother who takes dicks inside and out 24/7
We won't fucking miss you when you are gone, we will celebrate
if I could hire a hitman on you right now, I would
I wish you nothing but the worst and most painful death possible and eagerly look forward to the day you die alone and miserable
Amen
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LMAO all the Homo shitter are sub 500 Losers
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*FEBRUARY 4TH 2026 FINAL EN TALLY*
>11,399: Elizabeth (Hololive English)
>10,646: Baelz (Hololive English)
>9,475: Raora (Hololive English)
>9,009: Shiori (Hololive English)
>8,232: Cecilia (Hololive English)
>7,176: Nimi (Indie)
>6,546: Ina'nis (Hololive English)
>5,893: Gigi (Hololive English)

Well look who it is. Gold for Elizabeth Rose's sponsorship zatsu (alongside Raora), Silver for Hakos Baelz's playthrough of Holo vs Robo, Bronze for Raora Panthera's playthrough of Powerwash Simulator 2 alongside Kronii.

TRIVIA: Excluding special events (Outfit Reveal and Holonatsu), this is the first time that all members of Hololive English Justice qualify for the tally since June 1st 2025.

>RANKING PER POINTS (Gold = 3, Silver = 2, Bronze = 1)
Baelz = 8p
Elizabeth = 5p
FUWAMOCO = 4p
Nimi, Bijou = 2p
Gigi, Kiara, Raora = 1p
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Biggest reveal
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>>109148040
Heavenly is my nigga, bro understands idol/fans appropriate distance and culture
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>>109148438
FEB 2026 EN GOLD
2/1 - FUWAMOCO - Birthday 3D Live: 59,223
2/2 - Baelz - Ring Fit Adventure: 12,928
2/3 - Baelz - Agree: 15,280
2/4 - Elizabeth - Sponsorship Collab: 11,399

PER COMPANY
4x: Hololive English

PER STREAMER
2x: Baelz
1x: FUWAMOCO, Elizabeth
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>>109148456
FEB 2026 EN SILVER
2/1 - Elizabeth - Unarchived Karaoke: 9,569
2/2 - Bijou - Animal Crossing New Horizons: 8,897
2/3 - Nimi - Minecraft: 10,189
2/4 - Baelz - Holo vs Robo: 10,646

PER COMPANY
3x: Hololive English
1x: Nimi

PER STREAMER
1x: Elizabeth, Bijou, Baelz, Nimi
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>>109148444
The strongest power couple in vtubing
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>>109148481
That’s still autofister
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>>109148477
FEB 2026 EN BRONZE
2/1 - Gigi - Arknights Enfield: 9,029
2/2 - Kiara - The Witcher 3: 7,049
2/3 - FUWAMOCO - Mario Kart World: 9,496
2/4 - Raora - Powerwash Simulator 2: 9,475

PER COMPANY
4x: Hololive English

PER STREAMER
1x: Gigi, Kiara, FUWAMOCO, Raora
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>>109148477
The Nimi company
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>>109148444
>>109148456
Your botted Homo Whore looks live this
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>>109148513
Oh my God HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Shit why did no one correct me yesterday
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I guess we have to get the ppm up
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>>109148444
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Phase cucks...
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>Biboo: Hehe you remind me of my Cat, John Cat
>Cat Man: Oh? Is he really that cute?
>Biboo: Hehe, yeah he's cute
>Cat Man: Well maybe I can meet John one day and we can both sit on your lap begging for treats heh.
>Biboo (blushes)
>Cat Man: Alright, let me show you around my MC server.
>Biboo: W-woah, you're really good at this, i-is that a Moai made out of diamonds?
>Cat Man: Why thank you, I worked Hard on your statue, had to make sure it matched your brilliance.
>Biboo: (Blushes trying to look away)
>Baelz: (Nudges Bibbo with her elbow, a smug look on her face) Koseki Bijou, are you....are you turning red from head to toe?
>Biboo:(angrily pushes Bae away, whispers) Shut up Baelzu!
>Cat Man: If you want I can send you the blue print so you can build it in your own server.
>Biboo: (blushes) uh, yeah I have a private Discord where we can talk.
>Cat Man: Great, and then you can show me pictures of your kitty!
>Bibbo: (blushes)
>Baelz: (winks at Bibbo with a smug smile)
One day later
>Biboo (meeting the group with a smile)
>Baelz" Well you look like you're in a good mood today
>Biboo (blushing a bit looking away) Well yeah I got the Blueprints last night...and I. um, I'm just eager to play on his server tonight again
Baelz (smug smile, nodding a bit): Okay Koseki Bijou... I got you, yeah, can't wait to get back in there huh?
Bibbo (blushing a bit) No it's not like that, we just traded Blue prints is all.
GiGi (walks in munching taco) You traded Finger prints? Why?

One week later
>Biboo: (hugging John’s carrier nervously) O-okay… be normal… be cool… just bring extra treats.
>Baelz: (joining the Discord call, smug) Heeey, ready for your little “date”? I brought snacks and three embarrassing stories about you.
>Biboo: (groans) B-Bae, don’t you dare!

They logged into Cat Man’s server first before meeting up in person.
>Cat Man: Welcome back, Koseki. The shrine’s been updated — check the new glowstone trail.
>Biboo: (blushing) Y-you really made it prettier…
>Baelz: (snickering) Pretty shrine for a pretty gem, huh?
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wtf is this?
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atleast learn to write good fanfics ask the autofister sister that's /here/ for pointers
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>>109148587
/vt/ is healing
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>>109148617
The thing with this poor bastard is that
>A) He's only writing dialogue, a chatfic basically
>B) He's forcing you to understand the emotions of the characters with those parenthesis, because he's too stupid to depict them
>C) This is generic as fuck, it reads like the most bland basic bitch anime ever

Like, nevermind the cuckposting, even if you removed the names and just made it Character A Character B Character C, it would fucking suck.
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>>109148587
sex
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>>109148587
where the fuck is matsuri and irys the actual sex symbols
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>>109148578
fuck off selencuck
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why is no one stimming?
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is jelly a cripple?
someone said she had a injury that forces her to use a wheelchair is that shit true?
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>>109147247
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>>109148040
>BasemanW
kek
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>>109147275
Bae has sexy mannerisms. So does Kiara. I hate to say this but Shiori's voice is kinda sexy too. Would put Kronii on the top
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>>109148040
>>109148776
>literal who
>Baseman in chat
So that's the retard who is the bibooschizo...
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>>109148040
>Bijou
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Your oshi is shit
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>>109148040
imagine having to compete with numbermonkeys and this guy for Biboo... being a pebble is hard.
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Brave Group talk
https://note.com/bravegroup/n/n2128c63d52d6
>However, the eighth fiscal year was the first time Brave Group had to "crouch." Aiming for a stock listing and sustainable profitability, we needed to reassess unprofitable businesses, control costs, and implement mergers within the group to make the entire organization more "muscular." It was a series of tough decisions and corporate actions, including the launch of a new management structure at ENILIS , the establishment of "Edutainment-Lab," the partial transfer of our US business to FTW Entertainment

>The management team is very cost-conscious. Since last year, they have maintained the spirit of "maximizing sales and minimizing expenses." I would like all members to be mindful of this as well.

>Recently, we held StelLive's first overall event, and it's no exaggeration to say that it was made possible thanks to the 3D development led by Studio Manager Nakamura (currently Executive Officer and CSCO). "Xross Stars ," which saw explosive growth since its release, was created through collaboration between IP Production and IP Platform, including "VSPO!" and "Neo-Porte."
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Temu null is calling us slow numbers bros how do we respond?
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>>109148889
slow as in board speed or retarded? because both are true
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>>109148863
Shitposting with Watame? It's over for you, anon.
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>>109148435
They always make fun of randon for having like 4-500 with both platforms but they dont understand how hated he is and he is an ex holostar. Caspurr averages around 50 viewers and some other stars when streaming on their roomates average less than 100 and if they ever left those numbers would be ever worse than caspurrs.
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>>109148991
WATAMAGE HAS NO POWER HERE!
>KNEEL TO MILLIEMAGE!
APOLOGIZE!
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>>109147275
Why grem ignoring this guy?
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>>109149032
CCGG's whole gimmick since the beginning is
>I'm going to call you an idiot and I'm going to piss you off whenever I can but the second I'm together with you I'm grabbing your hand and never letting go
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>>109148810
Where is that?
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>>109148040
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>>109148040
who
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>>109147247
THIS FAGGOT GOT MAD AT THE MEME HAHAHAHAHAHAH
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>>109149090
>with both platforms
That's dumb in itself but his 30 days average on Twitch is 123 meaning his YouTube must be even lower. Even taking "adding platforms together" at face value he's not getting 400, he's more likely Uyu or lower
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>>109149090
So they can only match Randon at his weakest (incl. his time as Vesper)?

Thats's grim
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>>109149158
LMAO
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>>109148884
Didnt they axe globie and idol corp?
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>>109149158
Okay this one got me kek
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>>109149159
More on that, he's even reclining lately, walking strongly into 2 views territory
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>>109149158
>The phasejeet seethe whenever yuri mention.
Kek
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>>109149159
Why check stats if you are just going to assume his return stream was 500ish and his ftl stream was around 400?
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>>109149189
That's the "partial transfer of our US business to FTW Entertainme" part (for Idol at least)
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>>109149159
>>109149228
nimi will save him
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This thread is obsessed with Phase even though Japanese antis have made multiple 20k+ like tweets telling the girls to graduate.
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>>109149095
>IMG_
a flip monkey shaman is about as effective as astrology
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>>109149228
What happened in May?
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>>109149251
>Why check stats if you are just going to assume
You're giving some datapoints, I'm talking about his long term prospects.
Surely you're not a Randontomo to take exception about that, are you?
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>>109149276
Your bitch is getting jumped, take it with them
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>>109149306
His twitch viewership hasnt grown and has been stuck around those numbers for a while but you cant just assume his youtube numbers are even worse. You might be thinking of caspurr. The only thing im saying here is that its weird for stars fans to talk shit about him when their numbers are bad and on their roommates are even worse.
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>>109149276
>20k+ like tweets
Liteal chink botting btw
>>109149341
>its weird for stars fans to talk shit about him
Are the "stars fans" in the room with us right now lmfao
Where the fuck do you think you are
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>>109149341
>is that its weird for stars fans to talk shit about him
Wut? Stars don't even have proper fans, let alone fans that would talk shit about former stars.
For the record nor to former stars (except of course for, I assume, you)
>but you cant just assume his youtube numbers are even worse.
I actually can and will likely be proven correct long term. I doubt his average in either platform will get anywhere near 400 and adding them up is an absurd coep
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>>109149387
>>109149388
I wasnt talking about here I was talking about in /mans/ and another general and discords
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>>109149402
>was talking about in /mans/ and another general and discords
I'd question wtf kind of discord you're in where they talk shit about vespiss, must be a nice retard's den
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Jurard fell off, he should say happy birthday to fwmc
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HYYYYYYYPE
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>>109149451
and get fired?
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>>109149451
Great way to get Advent on his ass
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>>109149473
Oh jesus christ....

What no streams does to a motherfucker
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Is Saba at Mint's concert worth another month of no streams?
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Why does this thread have a hate boner for Nimi but not for Saba?

People say that Fauna badmouthed management, but Gura literally exited with a hit piece against Cover.
Not just that, her subsequent hiatuses as Saba revealed that all she said in her song was basically a lie, so in the end, she slandered Hololive through deception just for personal gain.
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>>109149502
Pretty sure they did. He congratulated Nerissa 37 hours after the birthday post when it wasn't even her birthday anymore. Now flash forward. Nerissa wants to play Hytale. Has a waiting room scheduled for it. Fliphomo also wants to play Hytale on the same day. SUDDENTLY Fliphomo backs off. What happened? HR called
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>>109149402
>I was talking about in /mans/ and another general and discords
That's even more retarded, you're pouring your grievances about someone mocking your precious homo nigger in the one place that will mock ALL of them equally because the distinction between barely beating Uyu and being actually beat by Uyu is not really significant
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>>109149541
what?
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>>109149541
The game ban was because of the Biboo Batman kerfuffle
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>>109149537
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>>109149537
Did Saba marry a homo?
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>>109149537
>Not just that, her subsequent hiatuses as Saba revealed that all she said in her song was basically a lie,
Uh, no? The song can be interpreted in many ways including her internal struggles with burning out and impostor syndrome.
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>>109149579
>Dinofag is going to play Hytale
>Nerissa is going to play Hytale
>Ahh oofffff I feel bad I ate too much pagpag let's play Code Vein instead
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>>109149579
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>>109149473
He fell on his face?
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>>109149537
you must be blind this thread has a hate boner for every single chuuba, it's just that some have more dedicated schizos than others
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i know this yab is basically dead, but in hindsight, i wonder if this error on Miko's mini plushie was intentional and was meant as a threat directed to her. (kimonos are worn in reverse when dressing dead people)
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>>109147446
Afaik his parents worked abroad in more civilized places and that makes you enough money to live like a king in pagpagland but it's not really something to brag about
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>>109149613
Why would Nerissa care?
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>>109149633
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>109149537
I do hate her, it's why I stopped watching her as soon as she started her ghosting shit again. As Saba she also made sure to mention more than once how much FREEDOM she has now, only to do nothing with it and become a non-streaming meme again for the second time on a brand new account. What she should have done was become a shorts content creator, it's what made her famous to begin with. To me, she will go down in history as one of the most disappointing vtubers of all time. All the money and fame and she literally does NOTHING, nothing at all with it other than come back once every few months to collect some more stray donations.
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>>109149655
So his mom was a nurse
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why do we hate vtubers?
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>>109149679
For love of the game
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>>109149666
she has the freedom to do nothing
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>>109149644
I wonder why Gura didn't get a hate-schizo.
My guess is that her hiatuses are an effective way to disincentivize long-term schizoing, since they'll just tire themselves out obsessing over someone who won't even stream to give them ammo.
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>>109149659
The homos were trying to do leeching by playing the same games the girls were, all of a sudden they cancelled playing batman and hytale. Could just be coincidence or they got a talking to.
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>>109149537
im not retarded so i never assumed that the song was about anything else but her own demons
also my clockwife clearly liked her and thats good enough for me
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>>109149716
They definently got "a talk"
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Coco should comeback
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>>109149731
>Makes you smile
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>>109149679
Because hating them and shitposting in here is more fun than 98% of their streams at any given time, both corporate and indie. The magic has faded, they're just regular streamers with an avatar and some of the work for different tribes so we come in here to chuck spears at each other about it.
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>>109149156
one of the biggest vtubers according to those Twitch stats nobody here really cares about
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>>109149768
you sound like a drooling baboon
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>>109146725
>I don't think Raden is in position to cover any cost given her penchant to leave money in the table
Retards are still underestimating dev_is girls huh?
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>>109149537
>Naplings shit on other people once again to cover for Nimi's deceit
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https://x.com/AUTOFISTERCLIPS/status/2019086298833707175

cc is a woman
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>>109149731
>inb4 Kronii loved Fauna
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>>109149803
>being honest is deception
freedom is slavery ahh dementia
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>>109149158
yuritroons have never recovered from the Epstein files
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>>109149711
gura has the most schizos since she is the most popular, so they all drown each other out instead of seeing a single person spam the same lines everyday
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>>109149823
Let's be honest, she was forced to LLD by Kaho, and she was also forced to go type in Randon's chat.
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>>109149537
I don't anti holos and ex-holos are still holos, you have to actively choose to be a holoanti like kson and Nimi did to get hated.
>b-but Ash Again
means nothing.
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>>109149831
Gura's schizos are much more light-hearted.
They make funny and creative memes instead of talking about how much they want her dead.
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>>109149838
>forced to go type in Randon's chat.
I think that was an accident
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>>109148776
>>109148807
Who tf is baseman
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>>109149827
I heard epstein liked to breathe, you gonna stop doing that too faggot
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>>109149860
yeah like putting her in the death bed of a hospital
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>>109149768
Laughing at seething spergs is the cherry on top of that delicious cake that is Hololive.
>>109149819
Pffft nope, she used to but most Kronies noticed shit was weird long before she announced her grad, watching krofau tards trying to make sense of it even on twitter was pretty funny.
>>109149860
There is only one fliptards whos saying shit like that, also this >>109149888 is not what i would call light hearted
Fag
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>>109149888
That's just a harmless meme template referencing her claiming to be sick despite appearing healthy.
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>>109149860
is this satire? even if somehow you missed every post here, just look at normalfag twitter or phasefarms when they mention gura
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>>109149858
>ex-holos are still holos
Blank slate works both ways. Ex-holos aren’t holos. They can keep good will and be honorary holos by doing the right things, but they stop being a holo when they leave
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>>109149906
>despite appearing healthy
How would you know nigger. for all the retarded doxshitting you niggers did you cant even manage a somewhat recent pick
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>>109149888
That's chumbud cope. I personally think she just doesn't give a shit about her fans
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>>109146692
No, because that studio did it all
Good package deal, frugal
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>>109149860
Can you have schizos if you simply dont stream? Just the ones that want to doxx her, but I mean, every girl has those.
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>>109149537
Fauna graduation was a surprise, not Gura.
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>>109149823
>being honest
>won't come clean on the ex homo
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>>109149537
>hit piece against Cover.
fucking retards
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Most of Gura's true schizos (the Cripple, Chumjoker, the first Humschizo) retired by 2024 because she went M.I.A. What some people don't understand is that the schizo's true goal will always be to be recognized and addressed by the talent, and if a talent doesn't move, well they don't get recognized, so they get bored.

The Transcontinental Cock rrat was all but dead by early 2025 and it only came back when she reincarnated as Saba, and it's just like that with every other schizo you can imagine. Squirmbeat, the Egg, Ennacuck, the one million schizos /baubau/ used to have, that Mori schizo that used to superchat her with dirty jokes, etc. The better HoloEN members become at PR and avoiding oneguys, the more the schizos get bored.

>But what about (this schizo currently shitposting in /#/)
That's all Selenfag with a mask. Literally all of it is Selenfag with a mask. And perhaps he's the only exception, because he will straight up continue until he's dead.
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https://x.com/AUTOFISTERCLIPS/status/2014821569739067789
towa, /#/, /grun/ and /gigi/ doubters btfo
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>>109150016
Mostly disgruntled fans (or ex fans)
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>>109150032
>selenfag
classic...
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>>109150063
How do you even end up like this, what a bizarre person
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>>109149944
>How would you know
1. She has never said what she has.
2. She doesn't sound sick at all while streaming.
3. Streaming is about the least physically exhausting job.
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>>109150044
Nice.
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>>109150074
Bro you just said the S word
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>>109150090
hot
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>>109150092
Streaming?
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>>109150090
anon thats gay
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>>109150105
Stop that
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>>109150084
>She has never said what she has.
That doesn't mean shit at all given how private shit is
That doesn't mean shit, there is about thousands of illness you'd never hear it in anybody's voice
Might be but entertaining thousands on the regular is still taxing and only some little fag who never had to speak to a crowd would pretend otherwise
Lets make a deal, you niggers find her medical records, since you're clearly that obsessed and until then you eat some bags of dicks? deal?
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>>109149827
Well, at least phasefags are enjoying the files.
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>>109149582
maybe? Doesn't one of the luxiem boys live in S country?
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>>109150100
>>109150112
The video is gay, but I think the song makes it even gayer.
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>>109150167
what am i looking at here
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>>109150084
She has talked about anemia and syncope before as Gura and hard confirmed it one of the last streams confirming some very old stuff
https://youtu.be/48AiQt08h5s?t=10937
Not saying that excuses her streaming 10 hours a month and taking month long breaks but she's not physically "healthy" and that's not even counting mental illness
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>>109150032
If that's the case, who's feet are these?
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>>109150191
besides the other stuff, epstein also pulled off ntr doujin-tier shit
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>>109149341
homosissies hate vespiss because even before he got killed the retard was acting like a pathological liar, was bailling on his genmate for important stuff, lying about being "anxiety crippled" in japan while admitting in members he was doing bar tours
also drama baiting about collabs when his own fans pointed out how much he was avoiding his genmates
his bff fagni is just as bad, even tho he was doing shit with his gen he was also acting like a twitchnig and tried to bring to holo very disgusting people like 39daph
the fact that nimi is close to those 2 (closer to 1) really call into question what kind of person she really is
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>>109150217
The feet of the retard shitskin you niggers turned into a board celeb but heh at least i haven't seen you spazz post is micro dick in months, i'll take it as progress.
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>>109149158
hololive once again out chudding phase
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>>109150044
>Next month
>Next week
Didn't GG say that "next month" in January?
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>>109150222
i'll be honest with you senpai, i didn't care about jeffrey memestein when he got necked 7 years ago and i still don't care now
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Eh, the "saba could actually be sick for real" argument falls apart really quick once you ask a few basic questions on what her fake illness could even be. My uncle had cancer like ten years ago and literally the next day after chemo he would still go to work as a security guard, and even when the chemo made him feel like shit he would still go. Maybe that's the difference between men and women idk, but if he can do it, anyone else can. No excuses. Your job is to play a game badly because no one expects you to even be good at it and make cute noises for like maybe 2 hours on a good day and you get paid more than some doctors and surgeons for it. No excuses, she's just lazy and at some point you have to admit it.

It ultimately doesn't matter what it is. She could be in an eternal state of permanent pregnancy because she plans on having 10+ kids and it's still not gonna be an excuse to stream for at least one hour every 2 days at the very least. She can have tummy hort and still stream, just do a zatsu and fuck off after a bit. Or a twitter space. Anything, do SOMETHING. The "she's sick" excuse is just people that are chronic enablers or shit behavior, the type of people to get trampled over by some awful woman in a real relationship. Grow a fucking pair of nuts and call it as it is.
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kys cuckling
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>>109150224
wasn't the issues with vesper caused by management finding out they were dating, that would explain a lot
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>>109150265
it was too obvious they were trying to not 'dox themselves' but that they would do it together
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>>109150269
Its not a good comparison because its not a job technically lol. She and even other EN girls can do what shes doing because of the good will Holo has built up.
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>>109150269
She might have an irl job and kids
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>>109150269
Would your uncle still had gone to work if he could choose to stay home and get paid the same or slightly less?
She is lazy, but she can also be sick. It's not a one or the other situation.
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>>109150371
>>109150090
>>>/lgbt/
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>>109150205
>She has talked about anemia
Is she fucking retarded?
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>>109150395
is this the sexy french whore
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>>109150395
en5 will have the best french hire in the vtuber industry
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>>109150406
It's chronic, she stopped being a vegan (or maybe being a vegan caused her to become anemic?).
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>>109150406
>iron deficiency
>Nimi suddenly stops having iron deficiency issues
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>>109150398
flip thoughts on this ? >>109146412
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>>109150461
someone's started feeding her meat ifyouknowwhatimsayin
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>>109150461
>>109150477
No Nimi, how could he do this to you
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>>109150461
>suddenly
I CAN'T IMAGINE WHY THE VEGAN WOMAN WOULD HAVE IRON DEFICIENCY
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>>109150371
So one of them lied? Doubt it
Did GG talk about her nails already being done though?
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>>109150554
Shit it didn't work
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>>109150269
Saba is not healthy, but this time it's just her ADHD acting up (having a hard time multitasking), in her mind until she gets her things done (collaborations, Hytale server, 3D stuff), she doesn't feel like streaming. I know she has ADHD because only ADHD people like Vampire Survivors.
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>>109150224
What's funny is that Randon's shills managed to gaslight all the newfags that weren't there for his fake menhera arc that it was real and because he "didn't have his weed". Something they literally just made up and spammed so often people took it for truth.
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>>109149666
anons /here/ forget what makes hololive great all the time, deny that it's a team and their oshi might actually suck when she's out of it and would never actually make it without foundations that other girls built and RAW CCV is actually not everything.

>>109149537
I still wonder if Ash Again supposed to be a diss at Cover low key inspired by Selen debacle and planned as this epic death blow to hololive but after two years of ghosting and laziness nobody bothered to make this associations and her graduation was not much of a drama but rather something expected.
Anyway what we know is she was absolutely shameless about roommate baiting in her last months with this "No 1 fan of Gawr Gura" shit it sounded outright salty like she was mad that she can't take Gura IP and she really said nothing positive about hololive on her way out I didn't get the impression like she's grateful at all more like she's really rushing to start her new thing and collect paychecks that's it no consideration for hololive fans or other members she had 2 weeks to say goodbye and it felt super rushed with pretty much nothing special prepared other than one edgy song.
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>>109150594
Meanwhile in reality he was fucking Fauna lol
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>>109150623
>I still wonder if Ash Again supposed to be a diss at Cover low key inspired by Selen debacle
Not really since it was on the works since 2022, back when Selen was just another generic homocollaber.
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>>109150224
So youre saying that if you were in his shoes you would be sucking his gens dick? Axel the sex pest? Altare the fight me in real life menhera schizo that abandons his gen for months at a time?
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>AAAAAAAAAAAYROD!
lel, good thing I have my whole savings in Holo gold, Holo silver and Kuzuha's bronze and tin!
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>>109150623
Ash Again isn't about Cover, it's about her fans
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>>109150684
Wow who would of thought the made up digital currency would be a bad form of investment
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>>109150439
She should watch some Sv3rige and switch to a raw meat diet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9s-zL-8UM_c
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>>109150701
>Wow who would of thought the made up digital currency would be a bad form of investment
Truth be told a lot of people made a lot of money out of this and there is still money to be made.
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>>109150568
No. Autofister is over.
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>>109150656
Is she not one now?
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>>109150662
Yes because pushing gen unity is part of the job, or should be at least, unless you have actually serious issues there's no excuse to behave like a fucking retard. Especially when the faux bromance unity shit was literally one of the main things Tempiss had, and he completely destroyed it.

And regardless of how pesty or cringe Axel and Altare were, they're still better people than fucking Dumb&Dumber so I'm not sure what the argument here is for them having some sort of high ground where they get to decide not to associate with someone.
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>>109150721
Okay then they're just doing it separately
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>>109150594
>>109150636
this
>>109150363
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>>109150768
No no, making cringe sex jokes at some indie 2view whore is a bigger sin than ditching your whole gen, crashing a whole BRANCH, and being a pathological liar
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>>109150768
>>109150823
There is also the hindu elephant in the room called Tempiss 2

He couldn't give less of a fuck about them even if he tried
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>>109150842
that was a collab ban
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>>109150868
For six months?
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>>109150704
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=892pIe16DWo&t=1s
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>>109150888
He collobed with them a lot after February
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I would like to add that "ignoring his gen" really understates how devious Vesper's behavior actually was.
He didn't just dip out of collabs, he ghosted them at last minute leaving the rest to deal with VESPER DOKO flood in chat because the was in the fucking stream thumbnail. Repeatedly lied and made up fake stories about why, even streamed on the same day as the collabs he ghosted, never apologized either.
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>>109150929
Didn't he also overlap a gen wide collab which he was supposed to participate but bailed at the last minute?
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>>109150767
why is this hag so sexy
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>>109150929
Wouldn't you do the same for holo pussy?
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>found this in my folder looking for something else
lol
lmao
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>>109150662
It's embarrassing to list Altare in this scenario considering the abandonment issue you brought up happened after Vesper fucked everything up first, and speaking of sex pest, it's fucking ironic in hindsight how Dumb and Dumber were like "We need to keep him on a lease because he could be the first one to get terminated", and yet their bitch asses were gone while he is still there.
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>>109150899
married faggots
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>>109150970
>Nene x Bae
>Fagni x Regis
>Axel x Ina
>Vesper x Fauna
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>>109149749
it sure was creepy how much flygon talked about biboo and other holos he had nothing at all to do with and without getting "tricked" to say their names via supas like it happened with Tempus 1 Shiori and ERB made this fags bolder than ever.
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>>109150973
Dingo just did the easiest thing.
>Instead of sexpesting Holos and get terminated like a dog, I'll sexpest indies because they have absolutely no self esteem and won't do anything against me
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>>109150929
Him and magni were simply the best. They caused permanent damage to homoEN, more than any anti could ever hope to do themselves. They never realized it and if they did, they never apologized. True sociopath shit, simply the best. I was sad to see none of the remaining ones were on that level, since I was hoping for even more damage to be done to the branch, but those two did good enough on their own and it was early on too so they put a full stop to any potential popularity and good will from happening.
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>>109150937
Found this QRD digging through the archive
>Half anniversary of his gen coming
>Altares will meet up with Magni in the states so Vesper decides to go to Japan to meet up with Axel so both groups can do a cooking offcollab
>Vesper is scared of airport security arresting him so he doesn't bring his meds with him
>Has a mental breakdown, misses another all tempus Collab before hand, doesn't apologizes, avoids collabing after that.
>Makes a burger rating steam one hour before their half anniversary collab, he doesn't name it nor promotes it.
>He misses the half anniversary collab.
>Time passes where he doesn't apologizes, misses his genmate's all tempus birthday collab and spends his birthday stream alone chatting with a character.ai
>After a month of avoiding collabs with his genmate's he announces a collab with Mori and Kronii.
>Gets a spammers on his chat and says that he doesn't care, that he'll avoid collab with his genmates more and interact with Holos if that means making the trolls angry.
>>Thars pretty much the Japan arc, he probably said that last part because he was tired from the hate but it was shitty nonetheless, I don't know whether he apologized or not, his genmates doesn't care but there's still Holostars fans that still hate him over it.
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>>109150929
Don't you think him getting bonked for the vegan kind of explains this.
I think news of his relationship with Fauna completely rewrites everything we thought happened during that year.
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Your Holo girls could never have this much fun

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8DbTj3sEiM
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>dead thread
>bring up Vesper's corpse yet again
king of /vt/
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>>109151027
>Time passes where he doesn't apologizes, misses his genmate's all tempus birthday collab and spends his birthday stream alone chatting with a character.ai
We're supposed to believe this nigga married Fauna by the way
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uh oh shitposting with Watame
prepare for the karma
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>>109151051
Are you still coping cuckling?
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>>109151050
>Marries /#/'s (former) darling
He truly is
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>>109149541
I can believe that because switching Hytale to Code Vein because of some voice issues just doesn't make any sense he will use his voice either way.
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>>109151071
nigga, c.ai users don't get laid.
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>>109151027
>Time passes where he doesn't apologizes, misses his genmate's all tempus birthday collab and spends his birthday stream alone chatting with a character.ai
sounds like a collab ban
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>>109148040
You guys better be careful
A few streams with this dude and Amalee straight up ordered herself a raceplay themed outfit
Kiara and Nerissa are already teetering on the edge of that, I bet Biboo could fall to it as well
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>>109149672
yup, she nursed fat white dicks alright.
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>>109151096
With ALL of his genmates.

Despite being perfectly able to collab months before and months after.
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>>109151121
>>109151031
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>>109151103
I hope they do it and post pictures
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>>109151136
He was spamming collabs with the girls while avoiding these tempus collabs, retard
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>>109150586
>only ADHD people like Vampire Survivors
sora love vampire survivors and has no issue streaming.
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>>109151027
>Vesper ruined his relationship with his gen and had a melty about japan
>Fauna ruined her relationship with her gen and had a melty about japan
Match made in hell
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>>109151158
I agree
watching biboo bounce on BBC would be a dream come true
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>>109151163
No, the last Salt collab happened the weekend before the VG collab and he had no collabs with anyone till the end of February
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>>109151197
The last SALT collab happened in June, mate, the TTRPG
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>>109151179
Sora is the opposite: crippling motion sickness but she forces herself to stream anyway even reducing her resolution to 480p for ages to prevent the worst of it
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>>109151197
except for a tournament that he had no pov for

>>109151205
In January of 2023 before the collab ban
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the saba schizo is trying really hard today
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>>109150167
>Bali

KFP bros...
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Lol, that age of advent fag got a video made about him crashing out about none of the girls playing his game. Nothing big so far, 20k views.
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>>109150970
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Biggest Homo fan ever
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is Nimi streaming today
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Cover told ame/dooby to ghost nimi and not retweet pics with her after the LLD since she's an affiliate and Cover knows who the husband is.
It's the perfect explanation for why she still hung out with her for a few days after the LLD before the directives came in and why saba keeps hanging out with her, but won't collab since she needs dooby for all collabs.
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EN5?!
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I’m really tired of consumers caring so much about the numbers whether it’s games or music or chuubas. As a consumer you should only care if you like the product or not
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>>109151266
randon posted 2208

>>109151287
99% no since she just did 3 collabs in a row and randon is on a break
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>>109151261
can't find shit about it
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>>109151297
>he says, in the "caring about numbers" thread
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>>109151292
That's fucked up lmao
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should do the Rushia/Mafumafu room comparisons with Nimi and Randon
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https://x.com/hibiku_bot_/status/2018940468562907267
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>>109151308
Its a pretty small fleshie channel covering vtubers.
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>>109150363
I remember one of his Japan stories was about getting kicked out of the Cover office I wonder if he went there to meet Fauna. Fagni later said Vespiss was secretly more angry than him about the situation but he doesn't let it on in public.
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>He watches political NijihomoPhase goyslop propaganda instead of CGDCT
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>>109151390
I don't think he got kicked out of the Cover office, but something did happen while he was in Japan
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>>109151230
you could literally say the same for the Bibooschizo, so goddamn persistent

>37052208
th-the Prophet has spoken..
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>>109151016
is there a reason to think he actually scored many indies? Guy sounds like a total loser when he tries to be a player.
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>>109151453
tengaman? he's probably more of a bragger than anything else
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>>109151390
tell me what stream that was in because I don't remember him saying that at all, otherwise people on this board wouldve spammed it like they did with the "i'll fuck your oshi next" clip

>inb4 "its in his membership"
/orc/ has all his membership streams available for public viewing
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>Kronii did GOMAD
How fucking ripped is she, she could probably rip Nimi's tiny vegan head off her shoulders with her bare hands.
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>>109151506
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>>109151506
did she do starting strength too, imagine her thick ass and thighs...
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>>109151424
it was a story he told in members, pretty sure it was discussed /here/ too security escorted him out or something like that but it wasn't clear what he was trying to do there in the first place.
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>>109151485
looks like hakka is fucking eimi here
wonder if that was on purpose
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>>109151540
kek called it >>109151504
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>>109151540
As Vesper in January of 2023?
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>>109151192
Vesper's relationship strain is probably why they started making sure gen unity was stronger going forward, starting with Advent.
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>>109151506
Mori has said that Kronii's bench press buts hers "to shame" so maybe...
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>>109151563
they are probably wrong
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>>109151535
kronii dox
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>still is taking over /#/'s 4 years later
how does he do it?
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>>109151569
Nah Advent's unity wasn't planned, it was just luck or "gen 3 magic" or whatever.
Justice unity isn't that great either, Autofister is Autofister but Raora doesn't interact very often with them, and ERB basically doesn't exist.
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>>109151192
they were both getting fucked over by Covers management
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>>109151597
I remember there being a guy on /fit/ that posted an image of himself after doing starting strength and he straight up looked like Mewtwo. Just a massive lowerbody and tiny upperbody
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>>109151590
yeah which is why i made that post, calling them out on the bullshit
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>>109151615
by being based as fuck apparently
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>advent unity
>shiori has openly stated she prefers collabing with the boys because she can actually act like herself
>chose to join the homo collab instead of cgdct collab this week
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>>109150269
her main issue is she just doesn't enjoy streaming all that much or her fans so she would rather avoid both it's pretty obvious at this point
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>>109151631
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Saba must suffer from endometriosis or something
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>>109151616
But they're not going "yeah I'm going to severely fuck everything up" kind of way.

Either way, all this stuff is making me more curious about their departure. It was easy to write everyone as being pissed at them leaving after a year and dropping them as an explanation, but there's more to it than that, along with any behavioral changes around the time their suspension was announced.
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>>109146560
what did Miko do that caused whatever drama this is
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>>109151723
stole content from a horse racing youtuber and refused to apologize for it
even her fans called her out for it at the time but she thought she was untouchable so she just mocked them
guess that didn't work out
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>>109150406
I know this may come as a shock to you, but women can have anemia without being pregnant. Like women are fucking statistically more likely to have some form of anemia since they bleed out into a toilet once a month.
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>>109151642
>homobeggar thinks anyone likes his failures more
now compare the number of collabs
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>>109151642
Advent will always have that little incognito, four of it's members are strictly pro-segregation, strictly pro-unicorn and completely detached from any homocollabing. And the fifth one is Shiori.

Back when Shiori wasn't a homocollaber one could understand it, the other members just do a I Pretend I Do Not See It since it's Twitter and who gives a shit. But nowadays...how does it work?
>Hey girls, 'Liz organized this collab, are we all in it?
>Yeah sure, let's join all five
>Sounds good
>Hey actually...I'm going to join the OTHER collab with the Homos, so you'll have to collab with RAORA...
>
>What the fuck?
>Excuse me?
>Oh come the fuck on
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>>109151791
Quality > Quantity
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>>109151642
Advent Japan (4/4)
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>>109151758
what do you mean by "stole content" exactly
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>>109151795
>four of it's members are strictly pro-segregation, strictly pro-unicorn and completely detached from any homocollabing
okay cmon man
Nerissa ain't homocollabing but it's pretty clear she doesn't mind them
she's gone out of her way to make this clear several times
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>>109151801
quality for people who eat pagpag everyday
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is korni still fat?
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>>109151866
i sure hope so
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>>109151795
I'm more curious about how ERB "announced" these two collab slots
>hey this one is girls-only, and this one is for my homos, feel free to sign up to either of them
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>>109151642
Shiori is still participating in Advent projects, unlike ERB.
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After Saba and Nimi I don't know who to trust anymore. I don't know who to watch (not that Saba leaves me any choice anyway). I've spiraled into depression.
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>>109151852
Watched a paid discussion about horse race betting
then repeated the information from it in her stream
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>>109151642
>she can actually act like herself
how so
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>>109146099
These whores are the reason why hololive is basically a dead company
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>>109151879
Vtubers are not your girlfriend
Never assume they're single unless they actually tell you that
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>>109151896
she can act as crude as she wants basically
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>>109151882
>repeated
Not even, she commented about it in such a way that didn't break any copyright law.

Miko has been attacked since at least...what, June, July? Every time with a different angle (which most of the time devolves into muh favoritism), the horse race shit is just the new one and arguably the most stupid one
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>>109151877
Why is ERB participating in Advent projects
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>>109151879
You willingly chose to watch those two despite their RM's. I dunno what to tell you.
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>>109151882
I don't understand why anyone would get mad at that
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>>109150623
gura is a great example how having great talent and charisma can stifle personal growth, because she never really struggled with attaining her success which left her unable to cope/push through when things demanded effort
this happens to a ton of people who were praised as "smart, but lazy" thorough their education curriculum, but they instead tend to land in cushy if soulnumbing corpo job, not leading a streaming scene and build a following of fans, who sometimes have expectations
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>>109151856
>she doesn't mind them
None of them are man haters but sure as fuck they don't want them near
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>>109151935
it's intellectual theft
very bad in Japan
idk why she thought she could get away with it honestly, very stupid self inflicted wound
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>The Phase tranny is trying
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>>109151947
>intellectual theft
You fucking idiot hahahahahahahahah
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>>109150032
>that Mori schizo that used to superchat her with dirty jokes
that dude literally still hates on her under random tweets and /here/, he just doesn't spend money on it anymore
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>>109151959
very bad in Japan
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>>109151947
>it's intellectual theft
>very bad in Japan
yeah cant imagine anyone in Japan taking other peoples IP and drawning porn of it or anything that sounds terrible
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would this board be saved if all cuckposting was banned?
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>>109151986
if would kill half the traffic, but yeah
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>>109151947
ESL alert
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>>109151986
no, only with EN5
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>>109151959
>>109151982
laugh all you want Miko is clearly feeling the results
willing to bet you won't be laughing when she graduates from this and Holo loses its only notable JP girl
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>>109152006
GRIMMMMMMMMIIIIIII
The RRATS were REAL?
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>>109150696
It's what many people assumed but she was never critical of her fans (even when she should be) and it's sort of a bad move to shit on them when you're planning to redebut in 2 weeks

"And no more hands upon my words, they only speak for me
For all the ones who try to silence thunder
I'm the wave that pulls you down and under"

that part makes it sound like it's actually about management and muh talent freedom I wouldn't be shocked if Gura thought with graduation she will actually "burn down" hololive by redebuting in Vshojo to 200K live audience imagine the articles

also the chorus:
"As they all say
"Tear it down, burn it down" (Burn it down)
And they'll all pay (And they all say)
When I tear it down, burn it down (Down)
When the world falls through (Falls through)
And all is ash again
While you all pretend (Ah)
If this is the end, I'll do it again"

Who will pay in this situation chumbuds?
What is the "world"?
The last part seem to be about her graduation. Well now think about it she redebuted right after as Gura 2.0 extra pedo-friendly version with merch and streaming exclusively on yt, no changes to her content whatsoever aside from a little more lolipandering at least before kiwifags started reporting her channel idk but it feels to me like she just overestimated her own importance and actually expected hololive will burn down due to combined graduations.
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>>109152014
I don't give a shit about Miko at all I'm just trying to understand what the drama is about
I still don't understand
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>>109151876
yes, one is girls only and the other is mixed gender, it's that easy
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>>109151986
>Only with EN5 or Saba streams
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>>109152025
>"And no more hands upon my words, they only speak for me
>For all the ones who try to silence thunder
>I'm the wave that pulls you down and under"
truly bizzare how anyone can look at this and say it isn't about Hololive
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>>109146099
https://files.catbox.moe/fpuok4.mp4
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>wake up
>Vesper thread being botted on the sub
he won again...
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>>109152065
It's about you, retard. LMAO
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>>109152065
it isn't about Hololive
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>>109152093
Who else puts their "hands upon her words"
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>>109152065
idk how more directly she can say Cover was mistreating her without just saying it
the drones will always try to protect their hive
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>>109151642
Hey this is the same timeloop used for Mori and Kronii totally preferring DUBAIS
She likes that she can outright call them faggots that should get fucked in the ass, meanwhile she describes Advent as family
Literally all dubais are are an excuse to make gay jokes lol
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>>109151947
>it's intellectual theft
>very bad in Japan
nobody really gave a shit, but since it's "technically" illegal, low testosterone japanese shitposting niggers decided to become corpocucks and pretend to care about it. same thing with pekora playing a modified rom of pokemon without realizing.
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>>109151986
>banning 99% of the posters
what do you think?
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>>109152065
The irony of using Ash Again to put her against Hololive...
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>>109152104
Herself, Cover never asked her to ghost her fans
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>>109151949
is this online anywhere?
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>>109152065
>>109152106
Who is silencing her now?
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>>109151940
>great talent

more like potential for greatness that was never fulfilled

>charisma

nah she can be funny or even witty at times but I think it's more about her autistic personality making her more relatable and attractive to the typical male Vtuber audience if she actually was more charismatic it would make them insecure
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>>109152106
who has that screenshot of a twitter tourist saying "if she comes back as an indie and starts streaming frequently again that'll say volumes about hololive!".
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>>109152104
>Literally putting hands upon her words by assuming shit she didn't say
This song is about (You)
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>>109152141
yes
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>>109152025
We have an entire two or three years worth of feistybuds and chumkeks shitting on everything from her to her genmates
It was a fanbase famous for having exclusionary and toxic isolationist retards that only gave a shit about Gura and could (and would) be outright hostile to anyone else (the countless seethe and fanfictions spawned from a fucking boomer party with too loud music and whiteclaws on a porch)
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>>109152132
oh so "all the ones trying to silence thunder" actually means herself
do you actually believe what you're saying
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>>109152156
he was right though
she was streaming a bunch and even making new friends that actually respected her for her, instead of her status
the only thing that stopped her was illness
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>>109152181
>even making new friends that actually respected her for her,
I can hear you laughing from here fuck you
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>>109152181
>>109152106
samefag retard
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>>109151031
idk it feels like he hated when people tell him what to do and was just trolling starsisters
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>>109152181
She still has that status, she's a number booster for them lol
She quit a family to go into a bucket of crabs
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>>109152141
https://mega.nz/#F!l7cXgbpL!1USGZio1CRBbAKopLz90CQ

A Napling purchased it, but never scanned the Nimi portion because it was an NTR segment compared to the members only session with Sabadoob
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>>109152181
>the only thing that stopped her was illness
ah yes a terminal case of nostreamitis
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>>109152181
>she was streaming a bunch
she did the same as gura. no word for 2 months, suddenly a week's worth of streams, then back to it.
>instead of her status
chumfags as always ruining any potential for gura to have made more friends in hololive by accusing all of them of being clout chasers.
>the only thing that stopped her was illness
oh sorry you were baiting. i would delete the rest of my post but i'm too lazy.
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>>109152225
Nice
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we are so back
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>>109151506
gomad was a vesper meme btw
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>>109152225
>never scanned the Nimi portion
lmao what a fag
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>>109152255
Wut? Wasn't it widely panned when it came out, with people accusing them of overpromising then underdelivering?
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>>109152255
This has to be a joke
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>>109152255
just play tf2
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>>109152218
She quit a family to raise another
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>>109152225
What a faggot
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>>109152296
>>109152304
bot glitched out
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>>109152178
No obviously not but it isn't Cover either. Was she dying to dox her genmates and call herself a prostitute before Cover stepped in?
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>>109152255
Thanks Geoff
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>>109152225
Was her partner an orc?
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Fucking hell, it's just one retard replying to himself again.
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>>109152326
>No obviously not but it isn't Cover either.
Who's it about then? Who else put their hands on her words?
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>>109152304
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do you think kronii fucked raora for real? there is good chemistry since they meet in canada.
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>>109152357
Fans or antis for twisting her words idk
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This thread, and to be fair the entire VTuber community, has wrongly assumed that if you are popular, you are a good person.

It doesn't matter if Fauna was so surgical, robotic and ultimately sociopathic that she ended up being unpersoned by her former genmates, it doesn't matter if Gura/Saba disappears from months on end and does the absolutely bare minimal effort with clear disdain for her fans. They have big numbers that means they're doing something right and that "something right" is definetly being a good person.

I laugh a little whenever someone goes
>Gura would NEEEEEEVER talk to her if she was a bad person
or
>She's Gura approved
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Kronii hates clankers so much
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>>109152431
kys selenfag
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>>109152451
racist
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>>109152417
so you don't know but you dismiss the most obvious explanation? fans and antis can't censor her, that's what "hands on words" means
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>>109152431
gura had the most vtuber fans so it's only natural that a lot of people on the vtuber board would say that
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>>109152451
Based
She she hates AI(Actual Indians)
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>>109152469
>fans and antis can't censor her
They can. It is theorized that she moved to Northern Europe because she was fucking doxxed and stalked, that's a form of censorship, making you uncomfortable in your own skin
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>>109152451
QRD?
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>>109152494
That's not what censorship means, that's not what "hands on words" means
You're a fucking idiot
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>>109152469
Ok well you explain the next 2 lines. What thunder did cover try to silence?
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>>109152431
Nimi lost her numbers and continues losing more, Saba is still fine I guess.
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>>109152511
I mean, if you want to cry Selen some six months after she proved that her problems were entirely her own, go ahead.
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>>109152531
>Nimi lost her numbers and continues losing more
*blocks your path*
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>>109152557
do you not have anything better to do?
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>>109152523
It's pretty obvious, she worked at a company that restricted what she could say
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>>109152588
Why isn't she saying or doing anything nowadays
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>>109152588
what has she said as saba that she didn't as gura
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>>109152588
So this company that restricts her from saying what she wants decides to let her release a song that exposes them? Sounds about right
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>>109152523
What haven't Blackrock Japan tried to silence?
You do realize the byproduct of a pedo cabal of Jews are what Hololive and its following embodies, right?
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I'm sorry that your shitty western whore foid doesn't understand men
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>>109152653
Pic related?
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I lurked /MAN/ because I was bored and they really fucking hate Bettel, kek
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What are the odds Saba knew about (((them))) supressing her from doing what she wanted?
After all, the ZOG control of Cover (Blackrock) is well-documented
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>>109152632
yeah its pretty amusing
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>>109152666
why?
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>>109152686
The guy has done everything a Homo should not in the hopes of getting fired but for some reason he is not getting fired and his sisters are only getting angrier every day
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>>109152637
Go watch your goyslop Phase brown
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>>109152632
I mean it's hilarious how fucking stupid Jews can be.
Cover allows their former talent to release a hitpiece on them the same way Jeffrey Epstein singlehandedly got the world to hate Jews despite thinking his psyop would work.
With Jews you lose. Every time.
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>>109152708
really? what's he doing? i have a friend who loves him and she hasn't really said anything in particular.
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>>109148252
>>109152725
This plus arguing with his audience practically once per week and skipping on HoloFES
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>>109152713
Keep swimming in your own shit, Yuritroon.
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>>109152717
?
kanata's graduation had way more of an impact than gura's for hurting cover's reputation lmao
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>>109152632(me)
Also, "all the ones" doesn't seem right if she's targeting Cover. It makes it sound like many individuals from different places (like antis)
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>>109152761
>It makes it sound like many individuals from different places
You know that Cover is a company that contains many individuals?
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>>109152758
uh oh phasecuck melty
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>>109152759
I'm not denying that, just saying that Jewish ownership of companies (both Cover and 4chan + /pol/) always leads to the opposite results after the general public became JQed over time
Hence both sects of Jews are actually retarded and the people will always emerge victorious.
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>>109152758
I can't think of a single female vtuber who doesn't yuribait. I actually watch phase, and they also do that, maybe Kirsche doesn't?
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>>109152810
alright
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Selenfag is so fucking boring these days
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>>109152777
Yes but why would she blame certain cover employees and bring the whole company down with her? Unless she singled out specific people as she graduated but she didnt
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>>109152686
I can't judge the specifics but it's pretty much the same things this thread has already observed
>lazy, mentally checked out of homostars, circlejerking with his new non-homo clique instead of collabing with dubais, no-showing to group stuff, barely streaming, whiny, etc.
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>>109152777
You know that Cover is partially owned by Jewish investment firms and you're engineered to be a byproduct of 2 respective psyops, right?
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this reads like some faggot has been spending the last 5 days on /pol/ reading the epstein files while trying to find a way to link it to vtubers when he returned to /#/.
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>>109152666
Catalog schizos who come in to /mans/ hate him, not his fan base
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>>109152837
>Yes but why would she blame certain cover employees and bring the whole company down with her?
she didnt
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>>109152844
Here have some fun, take it to the Catalog
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>yuri
>troon
what ?
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>>109151791
I think the funniest part is that the "Shiori prefers collabing with males" ""statement"" comes from a stream where she was talking about her pre-holo experience and how she found it easier to get along with guys since she didn't need to walk ok eggshells, which, fair enough considering the petty shit indies will start drama over.
Even funnier is that immediately after she went on to talk about how she's glad that the girls in Hololive are easy for her to get along with.
EVEN funnier is how in last year's thanksgiving stream she was talking about the stuff she's grateful for and went on to mention the girls in HoloEN and singled out some girls by name, but didn't even mention the homos in passing.
In short, she's friends with the homos but doesn't really care about them that much. (Call me when she has a playlist dedicated to the homos at all)
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLQNcTNavhAOj0yLMR3zFZ2iSK0TRGi2A3
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>>109152844
>You know that Cover is partially owned by Jewish investment firms
what ISN'T partially owned by jewish investment firms nowadays? fuck off back to /pol/
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>>109152725
it's schizos who hate him, a majority of his fans are fine
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>>109152858
That's because it is
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>>109152862
>For all the ones who try to silence thunder
>I'm the wave that pulls you down and under
Sounds like she wants to take them down with her, probably with her graduation
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>>109152778
>everyone I don't like is a Phasecuck
Try again
>>109152829
There's plenty of them in Nijisanji, like the female SMC-gumi members.
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>>109152834
This thread is boring it’s literally the same shit everyday, I honestly might make a bingo card of phrases that get said
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>>109152902
I think anon is talking about vtubers people actually watch
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>>109152876
Every insult on 4chan relates back to trannies in some way. Very unimaginative desu
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>>109152900
with a song that says nothing? again, kanata was more effective lol she just said what the issues were. gura just wanted to let off some steam.
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>>109152902
>Niggersanji
Is this like a joke? Uki tronnetta? Faglord Kanae flirting with his other fuckboys?
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>>109152858
your entire hobby was engineered by a jewish billionaire pedophile who raped toddlers for a living. that's hololive as we know it today. cope.
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>>109151876
My guess?
She likely didn't announce the one with the homos (to the girls) and simply decided to invite Shiori to it since she had already played the same game with ERB, Zeta, Kiara and Nerissa before.
The same game ERB had previously said she sent out an invite for and was hoping to get the girls on board first.
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>>109152902
>Instead of yuribaiting they just straight up eat cock
Revolutionary
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>>109152878
Why is she collabing with the homos and not her gen?
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>109152902
Oh God this fag was pushing his grimmi shit for hours last night
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>>109152902
>There's plenty of them in Nijisanji
Yeah as I said, I can't think of a single REAL female vtuber who doesn't yuribait
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>>109152935
>your
everyone's, you dumb retard. everyone's. >>109152869
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>>109152935
4chan isnt hololive retard
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>>109152858
I'll talk about the Epstein files every day until TKD is achieved, Hologolem
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>>109152935
Bizarre angle, schizos really have degraded in quality recently and now just type gibberish
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>>109152931
>with a song that says nothing?
Wait so are you arguing that it's about cover or not?
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the orc fans are saying he is happier than he was before the last few years and she fixed him
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>>109152886
Cover isn't
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>>109152946
>>109152939
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>>109152686
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>>109152963
good luck with that.
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>>109152876
Epstein is a yuritard
/#/ are also yuritards
/#/ and Hololive will forever be a byproduct of Epstein's social engineering.
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>>109152380
They almost felt like a couple during their last collab. But idk, Raora kinda goes after everyone and she used to yuribait a lot with her indie friends (most of them had husbands/boyfriends)
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>>109153004
>hitler drank water
>you also drink water
>you will forever be a byproduct of hitler's propaganda
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>>109152104
>Who else puts their "hands upon her words"
Out of curiosity, has it ever been covered in a karaoke by a HoloEN?
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>>109153006
>(most of them had husbands/boyfriends)
And that's the catch, unlike the other broads, Kronii is Down to Fuck
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>>109152946
Why does she only Collab with the homos once every few months?
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>>109152923
Which is why we call you Hologolems and ZOGcattle for a reason.
>>109152943
>cock bad
I bet you don't know why the real reason why we hate Holostars is
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>>109153004
that doesn't work because epstein visited /u/, he didn't invent it lol
he also visited /gif/
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lel, it's an unironic Nijinigger
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>>109153040
>calls people Jews
>while shilling nijewsanji
Holy kek
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>>109152960
If not for 4chan, Hololive wouldn't be anywhere near as famous as it was today. Where do you think the earliest clip channels and shilling came from, retard? Just how new are you?
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>>109153040
>Which is why we call you Hologolems and ZOGcattle for a reason.
>Searching for posts that contain ‘Hologolem|Hologolems’. 5 results found.
>Searching for posts that contain ‘ZOGcattle’. 3 results found.
eh? who's "we"?
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>>109153028
Why does she collab with them at all?
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>>109153040
The only thing people here hate more than holostars are nijimales.
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>>109152904
>I honestly might make a bingo card of phrases that get said
Do it, it will be the best post in this shitty thread
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Spamming retard
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>>109153064
you're an idiot
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>>109152858
It's homobeggers trying to push a new angle.
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>>109152923
Someone watches Rena, just not a human lol
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Holokikes crying out in pain as they strike you kek
TKD



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