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At the Disco Edition>The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood.>Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact>Who is Filian?White haired and bushed kemonomutt girl(?). Hyperactive HDMI zoomer vtuber. Fruit snack goblin. She does her best to entertain her fans!>LinksTwitch: https://www.twitch.tv/filianYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@filianIsLostTwitter: https://twitter.com/filianIsLost>Notable ClipsFilian breaks containmenthttps://www.twitch.tv/filian/clip/EmpathicCautiousFiddleheadsHeyGirl-T0o3Tu3mMhdDwPly/flip/ on da telly!!!https://streamable.com/vu7vmlFrog Ridah!https://www.twitch.tv/filian/clip/FurtiveDeadSoymilkHassaanChop-lRxGzX-R60FvHDt2Filian was shocked on how messy this viewers room washttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyyAuM4jSvQThe BEST of Filian!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8pCfUEhZso>Featured StreamsThe VTuber Awards 2024 hosted by Filian and ShyLilyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFlMoznC144FIVE NIGHTS AT FILLYS [2024-10-26]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOg0nCnJ6FQMEETING JAPANESE FILIAN [2025-01-06]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qko2nxe6qmsOUTFIT REVEAL New Kimono outfit with the new tracking! HD Filian! [2025-04-04]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qazfLW-AT2YOFF-COLLAB HORROR NIGHT WITH LAYNA [2025-06-13]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_Fp-LUbBTQ>Fan music videosLove Tastehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAbCQYiJefwMy Vtuber Lifehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ablf1N0bB60Super Shyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPy_G_w_C5A>Rentrys/ArchivesVod Archival Guidehttps://rentry.org/Vod_Archival_GuideStream Archiveshttps://rentry.org/Filipino_ArchiveDance Archivehttps://rentry.org/filiDanceArchiveSoundpost Archivehttps://www.snekbot.com/filly/fillysoundpostsThread baking instructionshttps://rentry.org/flip_baking_pasta_v2>Divegrasshttps://implyingrigged.info/wiki//flip/>Fansly Archivehttps://gofile.io/d/K0HHowhttps://catbox.moe/c/rin07w>Usual scheduleUnknown>Recent Stream Loading...>Friends>>>/vt//pcg/>>>/vt//big/>>>/vt//haha/>>>/vt//999/>>>/vt//swarm/>Previous Thread>>109228290
These threads need to stop getting made until there's some real sign from her, you retards are just making up random topics to get mad about at this point.
>>109264703we will continue for the next 10 years if need be
>>109264703>stop talking about FilianNo.
>Filian disappears>Epstein's files are being released>people still didn't decode the whole ARC thingyDare I say...
>>109264892yes she was the island
>>109264984The final decoded Filian arc are full uncensored Epstein files.
Fellas I think I've developed a porn addiction since she's been gone, I'm thinking about the last week and I've basically just worked, jerked off, not jerked off but thought about it/ate and slept. The only "real" thing I've done apart from that is doomscroll. I wouldn't even have said I'm that big of a fan of hers, I mean sure I watched every stream but without her I've become a complete mess and it's seriously affecting my life. I don't like it.
>>109265728Clean your room.
>>109265728>>109265761and find a hobby
you think the mods would let this through for the next YLYL?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X935Hkjjcwo
Made this hoping it would bring her back. Gonna go cry some more.
i will genuinely suck one of you off to make a filian cover of heil hitler be ye
>>109266567Bro it's AI. You can do it yourself. You can suck yourself off. We can be bees.
>>109266604but i don't want to sign up for any of the sites that do it
>>109266539This reminded me that I'm so glad I'm past the clubbing stage of my life, but this dude looks 20+ years older than me.
>>109266604This is good news
>>109266006He eats, sleeps, jerks off and doomscrolls. How many more hobbies does he need.
>>109264654Presto che non resistoItalodiscoScusa se insisto, ma questa notteQuello che preferiscoÈ un chiodo fissoUn imprevisto per far l'amoreNow this is stuck in my head, frick you, baker anon.
Filly sex
>>109267453with me
Do you think Filian likes OG Evangelion or the Rebuild
>>109267490She doesn't reference it often, but whenever she does she only references the OG.
>>109267515Good
>>109267490Neither, she has simply seen some clips on tiktok and pretends to like the show. Source? She is my wife.
>>109267490Evo is fucking lame
>>109267599You watch fighting games?
>>109267599What do you like that's better?
>>109267662Your mum
>>109267735His mom is very entertaining to be fair.
Life feels empty without filly streams...
>>109267772No, tell me your favorite anime so I can call it shit
>>109267662Gundum
>>109267824Isekai wa Smartphone to Tomo ni. Obviously.
>>109267913Gundum wung?
looks like neutral cottage has a facebook pageit got created in april 2025
>>109268782ok
filly painal
SheWillNeverDanceWithUsAgain
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNorxwlZlFkfilian has some competition.
>>109271286I don't car until it can give me a nursing handjob while I watch chinese cartoons.
>>109271286you know those are piloted by indians right
>>109272456It's not squatting and spilling oil so I don't believe you.
>>109267490evangelion sucked ass and people that like it past the first three episodes or so are retarded like 'b-but it's s...s-so deep broooooo >.<'
whats the odds she's joining phase connect
>>109273008
Filian has been gone for so long I've started talking to real women. It's so over.
>>109273966Picking up chicks at the clurb like the rest of us?
i made the filian heil hitler cover, do i post?
>>109274803Yes. I'm not even the anon who asked for it, but I want it too.
>>109274961do you think she would be upset if i did? i get it's funny for us but idk if she'd actually want material that uses her likeness to spread hatred.
What if the ARG has a time limit and she's not coming back because you didn't solve it in time?
>>109274989well it's already timegated so i doubt there's a time limit.
>>109274985nigga, you already made the edit, don't go soft on us now!
>>109274985She would think it's hilarious snagga, trust.
>>109275228promise?
>>109275975no she'll hate you and throw you into the smacker pit and toss away the keys
>>109275975Yeah, promise. She'll laugh with us.
do you think filian will collab with sinder again when she returns or will she stay on the side of collabing with numi/baoor will she say fuck it and do all of them
>>109276885She made plenty of not so subtle jokes about her and even made a point out of getting rid of her Sinder mousepad, so probably not. She picked a side.
https://files.catbox.moe/n3bu9y.mp3i decided to do the hallelujah version so we wouldn't be spreading hatred using her likeness :)
>>109277152Your cowardice digusts me.
>>109277152wait why is it only 20 sec?
>>109277152Full version doko?
>>109277210i'm trying to fix it, give me a sec
https://files.catbox.moe/kky3vh.webmhopefully this works
>>109277300bruh why is this shit being niggery
okay this one should workhttps://litter.catbox.moe/iyno97lwun9gq4tf.webm
>>109277415I can't believe Filian would sing this highly controversial and hateful song. I'm gonna cancel her on X(formerly Twitter).com
>>109277415if only it was the real version
>>109277415Why does it sound so good... for some reason her saying "nigga" scratches some itch in my brain it sounds so... right. (I'm not even black. Or racist.)
>>109277415so she's an admitted cuck now...
>>109277567i'm listening to the one i made where she says "nigga heil hitler" rn and its honestly 100x better/funnier
>>109277415Wow Filian took the George Floyd joke backlash really poorly, huh?
>>109277612Anooooon. I neeeeed it. Give it to me. You know you want to.
why is niggermusic being posted here
>>109277625yeah, it was discovered recently that a few years ago during a flip gone wrong, she damaged the right frontal lobe of her brain, which prompted her to go years with undiagnosed bipolar disorder
>>109277658i really do want to post it, but it's one of those things where i really feel like she would be upset if she saw/heard it. not even angry, just sad and heartbroken that it exists. i don't want her to feel like that.
>>109277754She already knows it exists by virtue of you talking about it, I bet.
>>109277776yeah but i doubt she'd actually want it out there.
I left the thread for 45 minutes and i come back to hear the greatest song cover I've ever heard...
>>109277415https://files.catbox.moe/87zx1j.giffilian when she wrote that song
>>109277814Stop being a little bitch anon.
>>109278287listen dude, if i figured out how to do this shit then you can 100% do it yourself
>>109277670>niggermusicthis is literally gods greatest gift, what are you on, nigga?
>>109278598the only black peepo music i listen to is from africa it is much better than the poser american black peepo music
>>109278653well theres a difference between niggermusic and niggamusic
>>109278677
I just remembered when Filian said Phase is un-cancelable because of their already mentally ill image. She jinxed it.
>>109280019To be fair the talents weren't really the problem. But this isn't really something to discuss here.
>>109280019>un-cancelableThey were, probably still are even. But it doesn't protect against self-retardation, cancelling yourself. I saw a rrat about PC having recently hired an ex-Niji manager or PR guy, big fucking mistake if real lmao
>>109280087True. But that does beg the question: What the fuck IS this place right now? I'm having an identity crisis.
>>109275042>>109274989Maybe we lose if nobody solve the ivory town stuff in timeBut either way, as long as she keeps paying her clippers there's no need to worry. If she cancels the clipper program you can start panicking.
i see /flip/ found its national anthem...
>>109264817>filian living as a pure memetic internet ghostkino
>>109280685I can't un-imagine this as our anthem desuhttps://youtu.be/Bg59q4puhmg?list=RDBg59q4puhmg
>>109280685if only he'd give us the real one
>>109280768this one is like the smagger anthem and then >>109277415 is like the snagga anthem
Anyone up for some DOTA while we wait for filly to return?https://youtu.be/qTsaS1Tm-Ic?list=RDYnopHCL1Jk8
>>109277071When did she get rid of her Sinder mousepad?
>>109282128when she spilled surströmming juice on it
>>109282128shortly after all the drama last year
>>109282211>>109282173Most people would get rid of something that they spilled Surströmming on. Whatever the case, Filian has visited Sinder's streams after this at least once, so I wouldn't say it's impossible. We really know nothing of what's going on behind the scenes.
>>109282340NTA but I also think they are on relatively friendly terms. Filian got dropped by Mythic with zero afterthought so she is probably not that happy with them and the whoreclan, and now this Phase drama..
>>109282340>>109282458i haven't seen any of her streams since she came back, but i feel like sinder would want to just play it solo for a little while. i didn't get too invested in all the drama when it was happening, but from what i could tell it a bunch of women acting like dramatic highschoolers. i doubt she'd want to surround herself with another group of friends like that. also, not trying to say she's the victim here, i'm just saying from what i could tell, everyone involved was basically being a cunt to some extent.
>>109282702>a bunch of women acting like dramatic highschoolerswell what else would you expect from a woman?
>>109282702There is that, and then there was that half-rrat half-speculation that filian was person who's name had bee redacted from Sinder's google docky.
>>109283395>me, making shit up
>>109278232How do I make an AI song like this? Is there some free online tool that allows us to use Filian's voice?
>>109283513yea, but you don't have enough braincells to figure it out
>>109283513the way i did it was i had to use some vocal splitter on the original song so it would just be the voice track that went into the filian ai, and then add it back over the instrumental in audacity. kind of annoying process desu, but none of the entirely online ones i found worked.
>>109267662Boku no Pico
Let this be a lesson to you losersthey'll take your money and run and never look back laughing at you after they secured your bags literally took the bag and abandoned everything grift is over go touch grass now
>>109286417>they'll take your moneyOh no, all...$0.00 I spent on her...gone...
She's never coming back is she
im going to need to rewatch the hardcore marathon for a 3rd time at this rate.
today is the 2 month anniversary of her death....
>>109286592i've stayed subbed this whole time hope it was worth it
>>109287309Same, too many fake fans in this thread
I give up.
You take down.
>>109287555Never give up!
>>109283395Which one?
>>109280144>I saw a rrat about PC having recently hired an ex-Niji manager or PR guy, big fucking mistake if real lmaoaren't they hired cumbun boyfriend as event manager or something?
brown alert
>>109288763i got 3 day ban for talking bad about browns in this thread
>>109289105we're you pro brown or anti brown, cause this could go either way desu.
>>109289217anti
>>109289105I hate how this shit site only reacts to porn on sfw boards or very specific forms of racism. You could probably write like 20 sentences of different forms of racism, but they wouldn't give a fuck if reported. Unless you were to use that one word, of course. Either ban all or none, be consistent you bloody twats.
it's funny because only actual retards get dinged for it
>>109290087If that was the case there would be one guy that would be on nigh permanent vacation, but he doesn't say that one word so he can spew bullshit for hours on end.
>>109290037Not true. I get banned for racism against ((()))s.
but i thought since trump is back in office we're allowed to say that stuff again?
going to get a double double to honor filian
>>109291337Isn't that just a quadruple?
Phillip
Filian not even a 4channer, she a whole 4chanlet frfr
>>109291371No its a coffee
Filian is a munch
>>109293325
I'm bored, what are you guys doing?
>>109293865Your mom
>>109293865filian
>>109293865your mother
>>109293865Monthly gacha challenges.
>>109293865Reading some slop.
>>109293865Playing D&D online (with some IRL friends), but it's kind of blegh (couple of problem players + noob gm)
>>109293865Painting
>>109294095What you reading this time around, slop anon? >>109294111Mind sharing?
>>109294213You can't call him slop anon, because he's definitely not the only slop connoisseur here.
>>109294256How about you slop on my knop?
>>109294318How about you lip on my nip?
>>109294213This time it's really sloppy. Regressor Instruction Manual. The sheer stupidity of an average character is so bad even filian would notice. The only reason I keep on going is that I can't be arsed to look for something else at the moment.
>>109294407How about you lick my dick?
>>109294453I will never understand South Korea's fascination with regression stories. It's even more ubiquitous than Japan's isekai crutch.
>>109294556wtf are regression stories?
>>109294551How about you smooch my gooch?
>>109294556China has cultivation, Korea has regression and Japan has isekai. All it tells me is that all of these people fucking hate their life.
>>109294571Character goes back in time but retains their memories.
>>109294578How about you rock my cock?
>>109294598Oh god it's the retarded fucking lovechild of Time Travel and Isekai
I miss my wife.
>>109294706I also miss your wife
>>109294213No way im sharing i post my models on social media (not that anyone really looks), but i'm painting this guy
>>109294615You would love Omniscient Reader's Viewpoint hehe
>>109294790I have a feeling that means I absolutely wouldn't kek
>>109294817It has regression, isekai, cultivation, an MC who read the story like a novel and now finds itself in it and a game like system of powers all mushed together.
I don't really like regressor stories because like I said before it's a crutch. The author can at any moment write anything they want and explain it with a completely dismissive handwave explanation of "well, the protagonist just remembered how to solve that problem". No need to come up with any kind of logic or rationale or explain their actions. It gives the author unlimited blank checks to asspull irrational solutions to any problem.
>>109294866Don't forget the contemporary apocalypse setting.
>>109294790Idk if it keeps the same quality throughout the fuck knows how many chapters, but I do remember it having quite solid start. Maybe I'll try reading it again after I am done with this slop. Ngl if there is something I hate more than reading mid stories it's looking for anything worthwhile to read.
>>109294942Unironic recommendation. You might like The Runesmith. It's on Royal Road. Over 600 good length chapters. Not like Chinese chapters that are 200 words long.
>>109294922Usually those are meant to be brainless power fantasy so it checks out. Very similar to isekai in this regard. Some things they have that make regression slop "better" than isekai slop is the amount of chapters, (usually) art and the fact that the average bland MC is meant to be "cool" rather than nice virgin loser; both suck ass, but the former is less tiring to read about.
>>109295061For me I'd rather watch a nerd struggle than watch some guy aura farming when his super power is plot armor.
>>109295043Novel huh? Guess will add this one to my list of things to check out. I tend to go back and forth between reading manga/hwa/hua and reading novels. Will do later.
>>109294938Of course, how could I. >>109294942I read it all. Without going into spoilers, it gets repetitive. In my opinion there isn't really too much of a quality drop off per se, but the same trope-y way of writing repeats arc, after arc, after arc. It's not bad, but after the millionth time of the MC sacrificing himself in some grand gesture it becomes a lot less special.
>>109295102If the nerd actually did struggle it would be nice. Instead, they get transported with their smartphone, and somehow that makes them OP.
>>109295213Smartphone? Lame. My sex harem of kemono girls do all my fighting for me.
>>109295258You forgot they are all slaves and they came to love you since instead of abusing them you let them sit beside you while eating.
Someone can explain the situation at all? I only know her from clips that randomly appear while I take a shit, she just disappeared or something else happened?
>>109295279Bitches love eating at a table.
>>109295294She's taking a break before her big official debut.
>>109295294she had a kid
>>109295294she got deported
>>109295294She got surgery and recovery is taking longer than expected.
>>109295279I feel like there's something interesting to be wrote around a modern character coming to a world where slavery is normal and exploring his moral conflict around how to engage with it. Is it right to buy slaves and set them free? Is it wrong to support the system by giving them money? Should he/she accept that this is the norm in this world or do they run up against slavery where and when they find it? Etc. But alas, all we get is "Oh my god master, you let me eat BREAD?! Instead of volcanic rock mixed with glass shards?! Can I suck your dick right now or do I have to wait until the last volume????" while the narrative doesn't question the fact the MC bought a slave because he "treats her right".
>>109295513Mangas don't really touch on this morality because the nature of the medium discourages it. You're more likely to see that fleshed out in a LN.
>>109295513Ngl it's kind of fun to see people pour out their mutual frustration with some media. Filian needs to come back soon so we can all complain about YLYL NZ skits again.
>>109295606Know any light novels that explore the moral strivfe the mc has with the new world in more detail?
>>109295931>strivfefuck
Why can I not play soundposts anymore?It worked fine a week ago
>>109295931I don't know of any because those aren't my kind of LNs. I'm only basing my assumption based on the differences I've noticed between manga and LNs of the same story. LNs seem to go into much greater detail with inner monologue, dialogue, and moral quandaries.
>>109295995Because you touch yourself
>>109295995Whenever I have trouble with soundposts not loading I just F5 and it fixes itself. All of the soundposts in this thread are working right now.
>>109296023They do, I noticed that too, but I don't think I've read one that puts a lot of focus on that specifically yet. Mushoku Tensei has some internal dialogue where Rudeus questions it, but it's basically throwaway, by and large. Feel like if you combine an op mc with this it could make for an interesting story, like one where mc goes on a sort of crusade to single handedly try and abolish systems like slavery or maybe try overthrowing monarchies cause mc thinks they're "wrong". I feel like if you take that seriously and they actually struggle, get fucked over by powers that be, question their own convictions based on things they see and so on in their journey that could be a cool set up.
>>109296058>reinstall 4chanX & 4chanXT>still broken
>>109287226She's talking to me...
>>109296154The question is, would YOU engage with slavery in another world if the country you arrive in allows slavery? Would you save an innocent catgirl from harsh slavery and give her freedom? Or would you save an innocent cargirl from harsh slavery by being a nice master? Or would you be like "not my problem"? Or would you upend the entire society because you want to force Earth values onto this new world?
I might need to reinstall chrome or something. A task for another day
>>109296534>Would you save an innocent catgirl from harsh slaveryIs this catgirl Filian? This is very integral to what I would do in that situation...
>>109296845No. She has similar colors, but she's not the catgirl you were looking for.
>>109296534are the catgirls as smart and capable as humans? i'd set her free if so but otherwise no
>>109296883Okay in that case, if I am le OP mc, I steal her from the person selling her, then skip countries far enough that she wouldn't be captured and set her free to do as she pleases with some money to get started. However depending on how dangerous that world is for a singular lonely catgirl with no family I would maybe have to find some way to help her live a safe live somewhere. That's my self insert take for said catgirl that is not Filian.
>>109297018They're like women. Less cerebral, more instinctual.
>>109297041>live a safe live somewhereESL ahh mistake, imma panko myself
>>109297061well like the other anon if it's safe i'd let her go and try to help her, but if the slavery is essentially required to give a catgirl a happy and safe life because their instincts are so strong then i'd do that.the real question is how much less cerebral they are would determine if we have sexo or not. if they can give informed consent then i will sex the cat. if not i will just teach them to do flips and such to entertain me.
>>109297280That's the thing. By any reasonable objective measure even adult catgirls don't possess enough sapience or presence of mind to consent in the way you would expect consent to work. Even though none of them would accuse you of rape, they only possess the mental faculties of a 13 year-old girl that was raised in a rural area. Their physiology prevents them from ever progressing past that point. Would you do it? Would you become Isekai Epstein?
>>109297392Two questions. Would they have the body of an adult, and only be stuck at 13 mentally? and: Would they still enjoy sex?
>>109297550Adult bodies, underdeveloped (compared to modern Earth humans). Yes they would enjoy it. Keep in mind that the humans in this isekai world are also underdeveloped but mostly because of lack of nutrition and lack of access to education in early life.
>>109297619Underdeveloped mentally* That wasn't clear in my post.
>>109297392in that case it's pretty obvious no. i'm not worried about the accusation its my own internal morality that would say no. there's retards with the brain of 13 year olds but are adults and i would not have sex with them. it's also just not hot since it's not really an ego boost to fuck someone who never understood what it meant in it's entirety to fuck you anyway.
>>109297619Alright, I heard enough. I'm making a whole litter of half catgirl half human babies.
>>109297619okay well if NOBODY really develops mentally that kinda complicates it since the "standard" of what consent looks like is way lower. that's actually a tough one i'd probably still not do it if i remembered how consent worked in my world doe
>>109297665You need to keep in mind that they're still willing and able to procreate with their own kind. So there's a point of maximal maturity that they do reach. But here's another question. Say there's a dragon-kind race in this isekai that can take on humanoid form, but these dragon-kind are VASTLY smarter and more cognizant than you are. Would you then be unable to consent with that dragon-girl because her level of awareness eclipses yours? Would it feel like you were taken advantage by a dragon-girl when you were physically attracted to her and pursued her of your own volition? If the answer is that you could consent, remember that the catgirl is in the same exact position with you.
>>109297770Imagine being taken advantage of by a hot dragon mommy... hnggg
>>109297770hmm that's a hard one. I'd say though that because I'm a human I can only fully understand human-level consent. I can give full adult human consent to the "dragon girl" which for me is all I'm worried about being an adult human. likewise to the catgirl, she can never give adult human consent, even if she is fully capable of consenting to her own kind it wont ever be human consent.
>>109298119But would you prevent this from fucking the dragon? Do you think it's the dragon's responsibility to rebuff your advances?
>>109297962this raises a point, what if the dragon-girl was definitely manipulating you by making your body release hormones n shiet while she's around you so you'll never say no. but you are aware she is manipulating you, you just don't know how. but you know she definitely has benevolent intentions and isn't trying to hurt you, only fug you. Can you consensually choose to not be able to consent?
>>109298176>But would you prevent thisWould you let this prevent you* I'm brown tonight apparently.
>>109298176let's say adult humans can reach an awareness and understanding of level 5. a catgirl can reach level 3, the dragon is at level 10. the only thing that would matter to me is both parties reach level 5 at least. it doesnt matter if technically a dragon could get "more" consent sticking with her own kind. because I can at least give level 5 consent, it's fine
>>109298284Would then not the same apply from the catgirls perspective? To her, you are doing no wrong, since you definitely can consent on her level and it is all that matters to her. Is it then no longer not a moral issue?
>>109298284But if you ask the catgirl the only thing that matters to her is that both partied reach level 3 at least. We're touching on the threshold between morality and ethics. Something might violate your moral code, but ethically there's no violation. In this kind of scenario you're spending all day every day adventuring with this catgirl that is completely enamored with your for saving her from a lifetime of mistreatment (and your otherworldly knowledge of rice and onions sauce). How strong is your morality when she climbs into your sleeping bag after brushing against death during your mole rat subjugation quest?
>>109298320yeah exactly, there isn't a moral burden on her. thats why its not weird if she reproduces. there's only a moral buden on me as the level 5 human to not fug her or anyone below level 5.
>>109298392I would NOT almost die to mole rats. Fuck you for implying I would.
>>109296534It depends entirely of my status in said world, but in general I wouldn't tell other cultures how to deal with their stuff.Also it depends which kind of slavery. Roman slavery and triangular trade were different.A catgirl wouldn't change much so I wouldn't care. To change society at large you need institutional support : freeing the slaves is useless if they have no other place in society and nowhere to go. They might even harm society. Such a change would be way beyond what I can accomplish if the current state of society is below industrial level of technology and society uses "free" labour to evolve and maintain itself. As technologies evolve, so will the need for labour, and we can start talking about not needing slaves anymore because machines are cheaper.tl;dr I probably wouldn't do anything.
>>109298459I can't believe this guy is getting jestermogged by gigamoles.
>>109297392I wouldn't enjoy any romantical or sexual relationship with someone who possesses the mental faculties of a 13yo, so I wouldn't
>>109298459yea you'd die to normal rats
>>109298392you're right it may be fine ethically in that world but would still be morally wrong for me coming from our current world. if I grew up there and never even knew reaching level 5 was possible or how to even know the difference, and no one cared, maybe it'd be different. As for the scenario, we already established catgirls dont mentally progress beyond 13, so any relationship i establish would preclude sexual anyway. i would probably feel more paternalistic to her than anything, so your scenario isn't really wouldn't be difficult to navigate.
>>109298574I would MOG the mole rats with my epic sword skills and magic capabilities.
>>109298477Let's say slavery in this society is not totally barbaric. Let's say that slavery is mostly used a mechanism to resolve disputes and form of state punishment for certain crimes. For instance if you steal, or you want to settle a monetary debt, you have the option to be imprisoned or serve your sentence through slavery. It's enforced magically (through a magical contract), and slave owners that mistreat slaves face their own kind of punishments which can also include becoming a slave as well. Different kinds of slaves have different duties and responsibilities. However there's also the bad kind of slavery where slave owners are utilizing their own extremely unfair magical contracts and taking advantage of people that didn't know how the contracts worked. Let's say in this hypothetical scenario you arrived in an isekai world and you encountered a catgirl that looked and acted like Filian, but she was enslaved by some of these unethical slavers. You save her from this situation, but she's still technically considered an escaped slave by the state (even though the contract was evil), and if she's discovered she would be imprisoned and thrown back into the slave system. Would you choose to become her master?
>>109298775filian stole my heart, she should become my slave I'll dress her up in a maid dress and make her clean
>>109298223You cannot. And yet no harm would have been done, in my opinion. The morality around this is centered around the question of free will, and it's informed application. Do I know what I want, am I allowed to go for it? (without trampling other's free will). And the dragon lady in this case would one hundred percent deprive you of your free will, however assuming she is that much more advanced and that much more cognizant and has good intentions, it'd be akin to a human giving a cat a better life. We might morally grandstand all we want, but essentially, this deagon lady would be doing nothing but taking you in and giving you a better life, filled with more joy and abundance and good feelings than you could ever achieve using your "free will".
what the fuck did i just walk into...
>>109298945We are discussing the ethics and morality of fucking catgirl slaves in an Isekai and or being preyed upon by a higher magical being. We are having an adult conversation here anon.
>>109299053beats what usually gets talked around here these days
>>109298608>we already established catgirls dont mentally progress beyond 13Yes, but remember that this is meta level knowledge that you wouldn't possess. You could only guess at what her mental capabilities are at. Just like in real life you can only assume the person you're talking to is as aware of their own actions and consequences of their actions as you are. At least until you witness something that makes you go "oh, she just doesn't understand this no matter how much I explain it". Also keep in mind that she is very insistent that she wants to be intimate with you because to her this is not only entirely normal, but almost expected because you saved her and are providing for her. I'm not sure how much experience you have with animals and low-IQ individuals, but there's a point where if you are expecting them to suppress their own urges for reasons they don't understand, they become incredibly anxious and can even lead them to indulge in self-destructive behaviors. If a female dog doesn't have another dog or a human that she considers an alpha, she lives in a constant state of anxiety and will express this by alerting over inconsequential things. There's nobody around her that she can rely on to make her feel safe. Imagine the catgirl you're with is similar to this. She recognizes you as the alpha, her master, and she sees that you are providing for her, but when she tries to reciprocate your obvious devotion to her by fulfilling her instinctive role, you rebuff her and tell her that you are not her master, and that she should not want to fulfill the role she is biologically compelled to fill. You may not realize it, but being unable to navigate this in an elegant way can instill in her an insecurity that never goes away, dooming her to years of fear of abandonment. Things aren't nearly as simple as "my morals are the definitive standard that all others must accommodate". It's likely that forcing others to alter their behavior for the sake of your morals can be in itself immoral. tl;dr: When in Rome.
>>109299115Also, just imagine the sex you could have with an insanely fit thanks to adventuring with you, instinct driven, basically in-heat catgirl that considers you her master and would not just begrudingly submit, but actually love every second of you taking her.
>>109298775Well I don't think I would save her for starters, but let's assume I did and let's also assume I have enough of a situation than taking her as a slave wouldn't cause me any trouble with the unethical slavers or any faction. In this situation, no, I probably wouldn't, however I would find her a "fair" master but I wouldn't be interested in dealing with it myself and owning a slave just to "save" her.If I needed a slave for any reason however (Symbol of status needed for my current position or any other cultural/political goal), then I probably would.
>>109299460Understandable. You've chosen the Tavern Ending. The nice couple that runs the tavern that you encountered at the beginning of your isekai journey has agreed to take care of the catgirl. She now works at the tavern that you visit frequently as you level up your skills and advance your adventurer rank.
>>109299115yes but there's also a defense that this is fundamental incompatibility between species. If merely wanting a non-sexual relationship with her is concerning, I'm not obligated to now have sex with her. In my worldview those types of relationships exist and are normal. It's like dating a chinese girl or something. Yes there may be uncomfortable differences but that shouldn't compel you to violate your morals. It's also only immoral if you view all emotional harm and distress as immoral. I think in many worldviews this is not the case and it's entirely moral to harm others for the "greater good".
>>109299579Neat resolution!
>>109299600I don't believe you're concerned at all about a greater good. It's immoral to tell young children that Santa isn't real even if it's the truth. If there's no detriment to accommodating someone else's preconceptions or culture, deliberately choosing to not accommodate them is not what I would describe as moral. It can cause them distress that could have been completely avoided. You're not obligated to do anything, but you need to actually engage with the hypothetical situation. You're not actually treating her like a catgirl that has different motivations and behaviors. You're treating her like a human that grew up in your culture.
>>109299115>>109299600Just find her a catboy and neuter one of them so they don't multiply
>>109299934>tfw you wake up and try to scratch your nuts but miss somehow
>>109299934Find her a catboy and DON'T neuter either of em so you have little cat children to dote on.
>>109299972LMAO>>109299980Fine, free organs I guess
I would fuck the mentally stunted catgirl if she was willing. The issue of slavery is another one however.
>>109299053If you treat them well there is no issue.I am against slavery but just be nise and fuck your catgirl slave with love and care
>>109300309Holy siht guys I found him... Sorry I couldn't tell apart which one is which so I used a pic with a bunch of em
>>109300427This guy gets isekaid all the fucking time.
>>109299874my moral responsibility not to have sex with beings below the level of consent I possess doesn't go away just because she really, really wants it. I will always have so much power over her mentally that she can never make a fully informed choice because she can never know what I know about her, our relationship, and the impact and outcomes having sex will have on us. She is categorically unable to access my mental framework. No matter what I am always creating another harm by having sex with her because I am abusing my position of power by gaining something from her, when she may have chosen not to give me that benefit if she knew what I knew about the situation.
>>109300555>No matter what I am always creating another harm by having sex with herwhat harm? to whom?
>>109300625to her, because I put her in a situation where she did something she didn't fully understand relative to what I knew about it, and may have chosen differently if she knew
>>109300555You're forgetting that you don't actually know for certain that she doesn't possess your level of consent. She has just as much agency and social status that you do. She's also just as physically strong as you are, even able to beat you in a spar. She's able to communicate with you just fine, she just doesn't care about intellectual or abstract concepts because in her culture and race things like that aren't important. The idea that you have some insurmountable superiority over her because you're capable of noticing patterns easier or predict future outcomes easier is a little bit arrogant. Your idea of consent is simultaneously arrogant and subjective. Feel free to describe what you would know about "the situation" that she wouldn't. She's a fully grown catgirl that is perfectly capable of deciding that she wants to start a family (with someone else) but not you? Sounds kind of racist.
>>109300833But she didn't know. And she won't ever magically gain awarenness she didn't have in adulthood for her. That is a what if in the what if, not a real concern. What *real* harm is there in that what if, not one that could potentially be because she just doesn't know, but an actual harm that leaves her worse off, mentally, phsically, spiritually whatever, assuming you don't abuse her.
>>109300902>but an actual harm that leaves her worse off, mentally, phsically, spiritually whateverYou're approaching this situation like she's a child. She's not. She is grown as mature. She just isn't as smart as you are. The "harm" you describe is the harm that you could be inflicting on anyone regardless of their mental capabilities. You're not describing any harm that is exclusive to a catgirl that's kind of dumb.
>>109300833This would make sense for an actual 13 year old but this is an adult cat girl who has a 13 year old human's mental capacity. A lot of why sex with a 13 year old is abuse in our world is the harm it does to their social and emotional development. There's no major development in her person that's going to happen later on that you know about that she doesnt understand. So it's really not abusive in this way like it would be for someone who wasn't an adult.
>>109300968I am not sure what to answer that. Either one of us is completely missing the point of the other or you meant to respond to someone else. I was saying there isn't any specific harm you would do to a catgirl JUST based on her having less awareness assuming you don't rape her or abuse her in any other way.
>>109301071I'm just trying to bring awareness to something. A lot of people confuse standards with consent. Just because someone doesn't meet your standards for an intimate partner doesn't mean they're incapable of consenting to an intimate partnership. If you require a woman to have the same level of cognizance as you then that's perfectly fine and reasonable. What I'm resisting is the idea that someone from a different race or culture that prioritizes and values different things is incapable of consent. I posit that if someone who is raised in a society or culture where they're considered mature and fully grown enough to start families of their own, the expectations of them from society and the consequences of their decisions in that society are maximally understood by those individuals. If they're mature enough to deal with all of the consequences of intimacy in their culture, they are mature enough to consent to intimacy. Otherwise their species would have gone extinct. You want there to be a more concrete proof of consent somehow, but I'll remind you that you don't even get that in your current Earth society. Unless you're both saving yourself until after marriage, I would say you're just guessing that the people you're with are smart enough, or care enough, to actually bother thinking about what the fuck they're doing. When in truth most of the time people are just going with the flow.
>>109300890none of yours and the other anons points actually matter because it's ultimately only my responsibility to recognize the situation and avoid it. If consent relied on both parties achieving the "maximum" consent they can rather than an absolute limit of "adult human", then you can see things like children and animals can consent to sex because they of the "maximum consent" of what's in their ability. But obviously we know that's wrong because even 100% of a dog's consent will never reach the threshold of adult human consent.
>>109301317>because they of the "maximum consent"idk why i wrote this like that saars
>>109301286That's great, but I am not the anon you argued this with. I was saying, once again, there ISN'T any harm you would do and that she can consent meaningfully, if not as AS informed as you. Your points are valid, but why are you responding them to me lol?
>>109301317It's easy to say that about an animal that can't even talk. The line blurs when someone can actually hold a conversation with you. Please understand that by this logic sub-Saharan African women or aboriginal Australian women can't consent to have sex with you even though they can clearly consent to having sex with others of their own race. Treating them as though they can't is intrinsically demeaning. You're essentially saying that because they don't process information as expertly as you do that they're functionally no different from animals. Like I mentioned before. Don't conflate consent with standards. It's fine to say someone doesn't meet your standards because they're too stupid. It's another to say they can't consent in regards to you because you're simply a superior life form.
This thread fucking sucks
>>109301317Defining the threshold of consent is itself an act of dominance that would make the catgirl feel immoral or complicit in your own immorality only because of a theoretical harm that she would never understand anyways.
>>109301531Eh it beats them talking about what it is they normally talk about at least...
>>109301531would you rathe newfags argue about the self doxes for the 100th time?
>>109301775I think it's just the same guy talking to himself how many times has Filian been mentioned?
>>109301801We're talking about catgirls in an isekai. Filian said she wants to show you her world. We're going to get isekai'd. I just hope the hero power I get isn't dogshit.
>>109301801>how many times has Filian been mentioned?nta but how many times has filian streamed recenty lol
>>109301888Maybe it's time to shut down /flip/
>>109301909Maybe it's time you leave.
>>109301909only if we replace it with catgirl dialectics general
fillySoundPostArchive update, if anyone even sees it with what these threads have becomeI've turned off the scraping for now because we're less likely to maintain links between threads and it gets derailedI miss her snackers, I miss her a lot :((
>>109301956I had to change the URLs of 28 soundposts recently.
how come any time the thread gets more than 1 pph these niggas start having tantrums because it's not just retarded "fili sex" spam
>>109302044WHEN Filian comes back - WHEN - I will check for 404's on the soundpost audio files and re-upload them if I can automate that process. All original files are saved on the "server" (a Raspberry Pi with a 1 TB SSD hooked up to it)
>>109302071If asking whether or not half animals can consent is intelligent I'd rather be retarded
>>109301286>>109301448>>109301697okay fine i'd do the cat
>>109302147You're going to wish you paid closer attention when you're gazing up at two moons and a tiger girl has her hands down your breeches.
>>109302216Should I play this game? Isn't it just a VN?
>>109301909No thanks. I'm just saying I don't see the issue in filling the general with whatever until she comes back. Though these two guys took the whimsy of the topic and turned it into another one of their dumbass arguments, which is unlucky.
>>109302216sorry wrong cats
>>109302229why does she have to be as dumb as a tiger why can't she just be a woman with a tail and cat ears?
>>109302297Your honor. I'd like to submit this document to the court as Exhibit A.
>>109302287Oh I would sex this retarded cat SO FUCKING HARD
>>109302274it's cute but each entry is different1 is most just cuteafter and extra contain borderline lolifaggotry (though no one is underage)2-4 increase in story quality marginally which each entry but then after ruins it allbut if all you want is just to fuck cute catgirls its pretty good.
Why are you even trying to talk with consent anon? It's same soi fag who obsessed with her age being 25. He is mentally ill.
>>109302999That conversation has already ended.
>>109302999i guess we aren't to have conversations guys.
can these niggas really not tell the difference between arguing and debating
>>109302274it's a linear VN and a mediocre anime, it's nothing special except for Sayoris art being really good
dead thread dead streamer
if we all started referring to Filian in past tense, would that annoy her enough to come out of hiding?
Let's talk about how Filian's friend Emiru. She should've taken some notes from Filian.
>>109304323How Emiru what?
>>109304409Ignore him. He wants to start political drama.
>>109304483Ogey.
>>109304318I mean she was the type of person who'd get ragebaited by something like that, wasn't she?
>>109304863
filian would want you to be stronger. you should do 10 pushups now, fatty.
>>10930554210 pushups are laughably easy
>>109305665you're welcome to do more, but at least do 10
>>109305822no screw you, you said ten so now im doing ten exactly and not a single more
>>109305962she'd want you to break a sweat anon...
>>109306054well i want a fillygf. cruel world we live in.
>>109306275find a filly bf
https://x.com/Ringsel1/status/2020575385826873709?s=20
>>109306427im not gay. i would if i was and i'd probably be easy too. but im not.
>>109306655>>109306655>>109306655breado
be really cool if you came back already, filian
